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[ToxicAdam]

Someone troll it with this line.

"Congrats to Caitlyn Jenner for transitioning into an unhealthy beauty standard that femnists have spent decades trying to deconstruct."

[zomgee]

Will anyone be silly enough to get banned in this thread?

Caitlyn Jenner poses on the cover of Vanity Fair

Nah, just read from the outconcern script.

[nachobro]

Looks like an ugly old broad that got a bunch of plastic surgery

[mormapope]

Might sound like a colossal asshole for this, but some transgender people can pull off the transformation much better than other people. Some men transform or can become beautiful women, women can become masculine looking dudes.

This is not one of those cases. Jenner essentially threw a lot of money down to transform seemingly overnight and it shows. Jenner looks like a manish grandma, she was always going to look like that, to me that isn't fuckable, for many users on Gaf I guess they want to fuck a manly Grandma.

I support the decision itself, I support all people that identify as transgender, but attractiveness is still a judgmental game. Anyone saying Jenner is hot or has Juila Robert's lips either likes masculine mature women or they're trying to win progresso points on NeoGaf.com

 

[ToxicAdam]

They really blew the photo. It should have been her re-creating the Wheaties box photo in a sundress.

[Kara]

It's very important that you know how I feel about the appearance of a person who is transgender and recently transitioned.

[nachobro]

sounds like the same commentary that happens whenever some celeb is on one of these magazines to me

[ToxicAdam]

 "Hey, look at me!! ... but don't *look* at me."

[I'm a Puppy!]

Will anyone be silly enough to get banned in this thread?

Caitlyn Jenner poses on the cover of Vanity Fair

Obviously it'll turn into a "I'm happy for her", "No, I'm happier for her than you are!", "No, both of you are such neanderthals I'm WAY happier than both of you!", "I don't know how much you know about women's studies, but I'm an expert. And I'm way happier than any of you."
But there's a slight chance it might turn to one of those crazy things where feminists turn against transgendered women because they're appropriating women's struggles.

[nachobro]

It'll just turn into a debate about if not wanting to bang a transgender person makes you a bigot, same as every single one of those threads.

e: which is funny because no one on that forum is gonna bang anyone anyway

[I'm a Puppy!]

It'll just turn into a debate about if not wanting to bang a transgender person makes you a bigot, same as every single one of those threads.

No one ever thinks of the manly grandmas.

[StealthFan]

It look like a man

[StealthFan]

Gotta cram as many female pronouns onto the first page as you can.

Gotta make sure you get it right, breh.

I wish mods would ban for just repeating "Good for her."

Also Lore himself said it isn't bigoted to not wanna fuck transgenders, so we'll see how it goes.

[StealthFan]

[studyguy]

Looks like an ugly old broad that got a bunch of plastic surgery

Figured that's the tv celeb endgame.

[Jansen]

Shes the chick that plays skylar from Breaking Bad right? She looks great.

[Kara]

Also Lore himself said it isn't bigoted to not wanna fuck transgenders, so we'll see how it goes.

No, it's not bigoted.

Sharing this personal information at every opportunity where it's topical? That's another story.

[mormapope]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=166051882&postcount=202

2nd pic looks like Old Natalie Portman. Good job, didn't expect a reveal so soon.

 

I'd be insulted if I was Natalie Portman.

[zomgee]

Someone troll it with this line.

"Congrats to Caitlyn Jenner for transitioning into an unhealthy beauty standard that femnists have spent decades trying to deconstruct."

Close enough: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=166051982&postcount=205

I don't know shit about transgender anything so I hope this doesn't come off to offensive. Why does it always seem that people aren't trying to be a real women but the sexualized cultural stereotype of a woman? Maybe it's just only seeing media images of transgender people but they can't be a woman without large breast, long hair, and make up? It seems to be more about the culture caricature then personal identification.

People are in his grill.

[Am_I_Anonymous]

Hay guyz I transitioned too

[ToxicAdam]

That's Larry Johnson's legit gramma. You respect your elders.

[zomgee]

... Ok, I might get banned for saying this but do I have to say I find you beautiful?

BECAUSE GIRRRRRRR

[I'm a Puppy!]

would

[Am_I_Anonymous]

That's Larry Johnson's legit gramma. You respect your elders.

Don't be mad because yo rack don't grow stacks gurl.

[Kara]

Hay guyz I transitioned too

(Image removed from quote.)

imo it's a fashion disaster to wear a winter accessory like pearls with a summer dress that's so faded it's now a spring dress.

[Am_I_Anonymous]

But honestly though. It's his choice. I respect it. I wouldn't hit it...but I respect it.

[Am_I_Anonymous]

Hay guyz I transitioned too

(Image removed from quote.)

imo it's a fashion disaster to wear a winter accessory like pearls with a summer dress that's so faded it's now a spring dress.

I just saw 4 or 5 20 ish girls wearing sundresses with sneakers a few days ago. I wanted to clothesline them. Looks terrible.

[Kara]

These are the times that try wo/men's souls, AiA.

[Jansen]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=166056952&postcount=265

[mormapope]

Elizabeth Hurley

 

[Himu]

Few things on Jenner.

1. She has not taken hormones long enough for any of it to actually affect her. Hormones takes years for the body to adjust and change to. We are talking 2-5 years. Which leads to:

2. Jenner paid out the ass for surgery, likely top of the line FFS from Thailand, and it looks like her face is still healing. It takes at least a year for the face to heal depending on the surgery. Bougie cheeseburger.

3. Is using her position to say "I'm transgender!" Which kinda isn't helpful because it presents this narrative that you need facial feminization surgery to do this. It'd also help if Jenner and others also recognizes her status in this position, which I doubt they will. The media is very concentrated on making Jenner's narrative THE transgender narrative.

4. If this helps people have compassion though, so be it.

5. Being in her 60's, hormones aren't going to work that much anyways. The more young you are, the more they do. Fat has not moved to the face yet, and yet Jenner here already has FFS.

6. Going from "she looks weird" to "that isn't fuckable" in one paragraph isn't weird at all. Like you really want to fuck a 60 year old grandma anyways? The whole logic is absurd.

[Himu]

Also Lore himself said it isn't bigoted to not wanna fuck transgenders, so we'll see how it goes.

No, it's not bigoted.

Sharing this personal information at every opportunity where it's topical? That's another story.

If I comment on how white men just aren't fuckable every time I see a white man does this mean I'm not racist?

[king of the internet]

I'm fuckable. 

[FStop7]

6. Going from "she looks weird" to "that isn't fuckable" in one paragraph isn't weird at all. Like you really want to fuck a 60 year old grandma anyways? The whole logic is absurd.

Speak for yourself. 

[StealthFan]

Also Lore himself said it isn't bigoted to not wanna fuck transgenders, so we'll see how it goes.

No, it's not bigoted.

Sharing this personal information at every opportunity where it's topical? That's another story.

If I comment on how white men just aren't fuckable every time I see a white man does this mean I'm not racist?

To me? Nope. That's your sexual preference, which you're entitled to.

To Neofaggots? Of course you're racist.

[Kara]

Also Lore himself said it isn't bigoted to not wanna fuck transgenders, so we'll see how it goes.

No, it's not bigoted.

Sharing this personal information at every opportunity where it's topical? That's another story.

If I comment on how white men just aren't fuckable every time I see a white man does this mean I'm not racist?

Your phrasing isn't parsing for me, sorry.

This board regularly tars and feathers Rah for saying he isn't attracted to women of color, to be more explicit in my meaning.

[Himu]

Also Lore himself said it isn't bigoted to not wanna fuck transgenders, so we'll see how it goes.

No, it's not bigoted.

Sharing this personal information at every opportunity where it's topical? That's another story.

If I comment on how white men just aren't fuckable every time I see a white man does this mean I'm not racist?

To me? Nope. That's your sexual preference, which you're entitled to.

To Neofaggots? Of course you're racist.

Naw. Of course it is. If you always bring up how you just don't find white men attractive, it's pretty weird to say. Sounds like a hang up. Normal people just talk about people they are attracted to. May not be inherently racist, but weird. Commenting on it like once in a blue moon, sure. But imagine every time someone makes a thread about white men, and half the thread devolves into "white men aren't fuckable". If white men aren't fuckable, why not keep it to yourself? Why deliberately go into every white man thread that isn't inherently about fucking white men and say,"that man is pasty, has thin lips, has no color, and I bet he has a pink dick. that ain't ballin" but you try to convince yourself of your bias that hey, I'm not racist. There's nothing wrong with having sexual preferences; we all have them. The difference is that you can make a thread about any other thing and it won't devolve into whether or not you would fuck them even if it's an innocent coming out magazine cover for a 60 year trans woman to promote positivity.

[StealthFan]

I have thin lips

[Himu]

I have thin lips

[StealthFan]

http://www.thecoli.com/threads/what-in-da-hell-yo-bruce-jenners-name-is-now-katelyn-he-she-will-cover-vanity-fair.323839/

[mormapope]

Sexual preference voicing definitely doesn't equal racism. If some dude goes into threads revolving around skinny chicks other people view as attractive, and then points out how they like huge, fat asses and skinny chicks suck, that's either trolling or throwing their voice out there for the fuck of it.

Humans are viewed as other slabs of meat by other humans. Look at how people treat videogames, why would strangers on the internet treat other famous strangers like they aren't products selling themselves?

It is what it is. When it comes to attraction and judgement on the internet, nothing is sacred. Saying you don't like white dudes constantly registers the same as someone saying they hate Nintendo games constantly. Its all trivial shit and trying to label someone as a racist for it is denying how trite the internet is.

[nachobro]

Most of these famous strangers are just products selling themselves. I'm surprised Jenner doesn't have a reality show revolving around her transition tbh

[StealthFan]

That coli thread is full of fools saying "cheeseburgers are gross but I'd hit it"

[Himu]

Humans are viewed as other slabs of meat by other humans.

That's pretty weird to say.

I guess this is a male issue. I never understood men anyways, especially on the internet. Dudes go into threads about Christina Hendricks all the time calling her a fat whale and how she's not fuckable, so it's definitely inherently related to trans women but in many cases, male idealization of female beauty to begin with, as if a woman's worth is whether or not she's fuckable to a man.

Most of these famous strangers are just products selling themselves. I'm surprised Jenner doesn't have a reality show revolving around her transition tbh

I wouldn't doubt it's coming.

[Phoenix Dark]

Going to be interesting watching various splinter groups within the community rip Jenner apart for every minor thing she says or does. Let her live. She's speaking for herself, her opinions, her journey, her thoughts. Yea she's also speaking as a member of a larger community, but that doesn't mean she has to adhere to whatever hive mind views one segment demands or else she is a traitor/needs to be censored/Five Things Jenner Is Doing To Hurt The Movement/etc.

I see this with black activism all the time. There's apparently no room for differing views. You're either #BlackLivesMatter to the core or a coon, or an enabler of white supremacy, or pro cops, etc. Fuckoutaahere.

[Himu]

For the most part, people are down with Jenner and view her as a necessary step towards compassion and acceptance. It helps that Jenner doesn't claim to speak for the community at all, but the media will force that narrative. The problem is that many boomers in Jenner's position often spout ignorant and highly incorrect things as gospel and fact (see: Zoey Turr). But so far, she hasn't done that.

[mormapope]

Humans are viewed as other slabs of meat by other humans.

That's pretty weird to say.

I guess this is a male issue. I never understood men anyways, especially on the internet. Dudes go into threads about Christina Hendricks all the time calling her a fat whale and how she's not fuckable, so it's definitely inherently related to trans women but in many cases, male idealization of female beauty to begin with, as if a woman's worth is whether or not she's fuckable to a man.

On dude driven forums and sites? Yeah. For the world at large? Absolutely not.

Also I don't think its weird at all to say some humans are slabs of meat, that's the entire motto behind the porn industry, big tits big dicks.

[zomgee]

Few things on Jenner.

1. She has not taken hormones long enough for any of it to actually affect her. Hormones takes years for the body to adjust and change to. We are talking 2-5 years. Which leads to:

2. Jenner paid out the ass for surgery, likely top of the line FFS from Thailand, and it looks like her face is still healing. It takes at least a year for the face to heal depending on the surgery. Bougie cheeseburger.

3. Is using her position to say "I'm transgender!" Which kinda isn't helpful because it presents this narrative that you need facial feminization surgery to do this. It'd also help if Jenner and others also recognizes her status in this position, which I doubt they will. The media is very concentrated on making Jenner's narrative THE transgender narrative.

4. If this helps people have compassion though, so be it.

5. Being in her 60's, hormones aren't going to work that much anyways. The more young you are, the more they do. Fat has not moved to the face yet, and yet Jenner here already has FFS.

6. Going from "she looks weird" to "that isn't fuckable" in one paragraph isn't weird at all. Like you really want to fuck a 60 year old grandma anyways? The whole logic is absurd.

See? See what happens when people help explain what's going on? I am ignorant. But I learned something.

Not FUCK YOU AND YOUR BIGOTED STANCE YOU NAZI DICK

or "Read this stack of 38 books dating from the mid 20th century to truly understand."

And with the press putting all the pressure on Jenner to be the face of transgender... I feel very sorry for her. Out of one frying pan and into another frying pan.

[I'm a Puppy!]

Humans are viewed as other slabs of meat by other humans.

That's pretty weird to say.

I guess this is a male issue. I never understood men anyways, especially on the internet. Dudes go into threads about Christina Hendricks all the time calling her a fat whale and how she's not fuckable, so it's definitely inherently related to trans women but in many cases, male idealization of female beauty to begin with, as if a woman's worth is whether or not she's fuckable to a man.

Most of these famous strangers are just products selling themselves. I'm surprised Jenner doesn't have a reality show revolving around her transition tbh

I wouldn't doubt it's coming.

Eh, those guys that complain about Hendricks and the like have way uglier GFs than she. They just like to appear alpha to make up for them being beta.
that being said, #allmen do look at the gender they're attracted to and make the decision "would/would not" within a second.  So there is something to it.

[thisismyusername]

They really blew the photo. It should have been her re-creating the Wheaties box photo in a sundress.

The mental image of this is making me laugh. I'm going to hell for sure.

And while I know Shaka will tear me a new one for not being on the other side of this in LGBT issues: I agree with you guys, Jenner does have some mannish features despite transitioning. I mean, she looks good in this photo shoot, but there is elements of her past-life in her. Nothing she can do to really fix that and that's where some people's hangups on transgender folks come in.

[Himu]

Humans are viewed as other slabs of meat by other humans.

That's pretty weird to say.

I guess this is a male issue. I never understood men anyways, especially on the internet. Dudes go into threads about Christina Hendricks all the time calling her a fat whale and how she's not fuckable, so it's definitely inherently related to trans women but in many cases, male idealization of female beauty to begin with, as if a woman's worth is whether or not she's fuckable to a man.

On dude driven forums and sites? Yeah. For the world at large? Absolutely not.

Also I don't think its weird at all to say some humans are slabs of meat, that's the entire motto behind the porn industry, big tits big dicks.

For the most part, I have never seen the outward negativity towards peoples looks on female oriented sites. Usually it will be harsh criticism, but rarely on looks. Christina Hendricks on women sites is seen as almost a goddess and a model and hero for a lot of bigger women. Jenner has been given lots of support on female oriented sites and no one is randomly bringing up "that's not fuckable" as if anyone gives a fuck. More and more it sounds more about men and their stupid hang ups.

[zomgee]

Humans are viewed as other slabs of meat by other humans.

That's pretty weird to say.

I guess this is a male issue. I never understood men anyways, especially on the internet. Dudes go into threads about Christina Hendricks all the time calling her a fat whale and how she's not fuckable, so it's definitely inherently related to trans women but in many cases, male idealization of female beauty to begin with, as if a woman's worth is whether or not she's fuckable to a man.

On dude driven forums and sites? Yeah. For the world at large? Absolutely not.

Also I don't think its weird at all to say some humans are slabs of meat, that's the entire motto behind the porn industry, big tits big dicks.

For the most part, I have never seen the outward negativity towards peoples looks on female oriented sites.

I think women bag on other women more than then they do on men. My wife will "fake tits!" women on tv a LOT.

[thisismyusername]

I'm fuckable. 

Pics. And you can't back out now.

[I'm a Puppy!]

Women don't rag on other women for their looks.

[Phoenix Dark]

I'm fuckable. 

Pics. And you can't back out now.

you're so thirsty bro

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[nudemacusers]

Hay guyz I transitioned too

(Image removed from quote.)

imo it's a fashion disaster to wear a winter accessory like pearls with a summer dress that's so faded it's now a spring dress.

I just saw 4 or 5 20 ish girls wearing sundresses with sneakers a few days ago. I wanted to clothesline them. Looks terrible.

sneakers/dresses work if:

you're 11/10 hot (meaning everyone is just trying to get a peek of titty/ass meat)
you're a becky (no explain needed)
you're a black chick who don't take shit (see above)
all of the above (see above)

[thisismyusername]

I'm fuckable. 

Pics. And you can't back out now.

you're so thirsty bro

[Kara]

See? See what happens when people help explain what's going on? I am ignorant. But I learned something.

Not FUCK YOU AND YOUR BIGOTED STANCE YOU NAZI DICK

or "Read this stack of 38 books dating from the mid 20th century to truly understand."

Being an example yourself and explaining things plainly (but not simply) are really the only ways to fight the culture wars.

[Himu]

I agree with you guys, Jenner does have some mannish features despite transitioning.

This shows general ignorance towards transition, sorry. Lady has been on 'mones for less than a year. You must also include age, she's in her 60's. Age makes fat harder to distribute. Also, genetics, Jenner is 6'2.

[nudemacusers]

also this android nintendo thing is gonna nourish me for a good solid year. someone who cares should dig up all the nintendo mobile threads and string together what will probably be the greatest wall of fanthing turnabout shame of all time.