Author Topic: 1,000+ Pages of NeoGAF: The Story of Wasted Lives and Hardcore Salt  (Read 5992884 times)

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For the most part, I have never seen the outward negativity towards peoples looks on female oriented sites. Usually it will be harsh criticism, but rarely on looks. Christina Hendricks on women sites is seen as almost a goddess and a model and hero for a lot of bigger women. Jenner has been given lots of support on female oriented sites and no one is randomly bringing up "that's not fuckable" as if anyone gives a fuck. More and more it sounds more about men and their stupid hang ups.

When it comes to internet presence, women are usually more emotionally stable or grounded versus men. You don't hear about fangirls nearly as much as you hear about fanboys, the typical estranged comic book nerd is assumed to be a dude 99% of the time, and it usually is a dude 99% of the time.

Judging someone based on looks requires very little brain juice, not much thought. Attraction and emotion are tied together.
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Women don't rag on other women for their looks. :neogaf

Didn't say that doesn't happen.
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I'm fuckable.  :(

Pics. And you can't back out now. :ufup

Too shy.  :uguu

Not saying I'm anything that great, but I'd be good enough for a pump n' dump after a few drinks :yeshrug

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Himu: It's got nothing to do with age. Is there some good transitioning people out there? Sure but an awful lot of post-transition people still have elements of their previous genders features in their body. It's genetics and taking hormones and doing surgery isn't going to fix that hangup for most people.

I'm fuckable.  :(

Pics. And you can't back out now. :ufup

Too shy.  :uguu

Not saying I'm anything that great, but I'd be good enough for a pump n' dump after a few drinks :yeshrug

I said no back outs. :bolo

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See? See what happens when people help explain what's going on? I am ignorant. But I learned something.

Not FUCK YOU AND YOUR BIGOTED STANCE YOU NAZI DICK

or "Read this stack of 38 books dating from the mid 20th century to truly understand."

Being an example yourself and explaining things plainly (but not simply) are really the only ways to fight the culture wars.

Yeah, but I also get that the marginalized are very tired, too. Hmm. It's the people who fight on behalf of the oppressed that kinda irk me, really. After all I have a 17 year old daughter to which Tumblr is the real world.
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Women don't rag on other women for their looks. :neogaf

Jesus lord are you serious? Why do you think VH1 still exists?
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Protein thread turned into people all piling on Liu Kang.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1054370&page=23

That page and the next mostly.

Example
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=165928829&postcount=1137

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XCom 2 announced as a PC Exclusive. There is salt everywhere.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1055274

Console stan salt :gaben

Haha, oh man.
Pages of basically portbeg and whine.

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Himu: It's got nothing to do with age. Is there some good transitioning people out there? Sure but an awful lot of post-transition people still have elements of their previous genders features in their body. It's genetics and taking hormones and doing surgery isn't going to fix that hangup for most people.

It has everything to do with age. If we keep this trajectory and allow more teenagers and pre-teens to transition this won't happen as much anymore because they'll be on hormone blockers before it can warp their bodies in ways they don't want it to.

Do you really think a 12 year old kid who transitions then and there will have the same physical issues of someone who transitions at say, 30?
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Himu: It's got nothing to do with age. Is there some good transitioning people out there? Sure but an awful lot of post-transition people still have elements of their previous genders features in their body. It's genetics and taking hormones and doing surgery isn't going to fix that hangup for most people.

It has everything to do with age. If we keep this trajectory and allow more teenagers and pre-teens to transition this won't happen as much anymore because they'll be on hormone blockers before it can warp their bodies in ways they don't want it to.


I just look forward to the ramping up of acceptance. Not the "WHY AREN'T YOU HAPPIER FOR THIS PERSON" stuff. Just a broad cultural acceptance.

Edit: i.e. this:


http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=166070650&postcount=454

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Whenever a comparison is made about transphobia/homophobia/sexism to racism, it honestly just shows everyone how ignorant you are about all of these concepts.



YOU'RE NOT ACCEPTING HARD ENOUGH

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Himu: It's got nothing to do with age. Is there some good transitioning people out there? Sure but an awful lot of post-transition people still have elements of their previous genders features in their body. It's genetics and taking hormones and doing surgery isn't going to fix that hangup for most people.

It has everything to do with age. If we keep this trajectory and allow more teenagers and pre-teens to transition this won't happen as much anymore because they'll be on hormone blockers before it can warp their bodies in ways they don't want it to.


I just look forward to the ramping up of acceptance. Not the "WHY AREN'T YOU HAPPIER FOR THIS PERSON" stuff. Just a broad cultural acceptance.

Clearasil's new poster girl is Jazz Jennings, the trans girl whose transition has been pretty open and public going as far as I think six (?) years old.

She was in a commercial I saw on tv and it was amazing.

http://www.buzzfeed.com/arabellesicardi/trans-teen-jazz-jennings-is-the-new-clean-clear-campaign-gir#.orO3Rd4mX
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Himu: It's got nothing to do with age. Is there some good transitioning people out there? Sure but an awful lot of post-transition people still have elements of their previous genders features in their body. It's genetics and taking hormones and doing surgery isn't going to fix that hangup for most people.

It has everything to do with age. If we keep this trajectory and allow more teenagers and pre-teens to transition this won't happen as much anymore because they'll be on hormone blockers before it can warp their bodies in ways they don't want it to.


I just look forward to the ramping up of acceptance. Not the "WHY AREN'T YOU HAPPIER FOR THIS PERSON" stuff. Just a broad cultural acceptance.

Clearasil's new poster girl is Jazz Jennings, the trans girl whose transition has been pretty open and public going as far as I think six (?) years old.

She was in a commercial I saw on tv and it was amazing.

http://www.buzzfeed.com/arabellesicardi/trans-teen-jazz-jennings-is-the-new-clean-clear-campaign-gir#.orO3Rd4mX

Google search Jazz Jennings - hmm ok, yeah, good stuff, wow very strong and what, wait no:

TLC PREMIERES I AM JAZZ, ABOUT TRANSGENDER TEEN JAZZ JENNINGS AND HER FAMILY, ON JULY 15

From the network that brought you...
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SCANDAL IN THE JENNINGS HOUSEHOLD
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Himu: It's got nothing to do with age. Is there some good transitioning people out there? Sure but an awful lot of post-transition people still have elements of their previous genders features in their body. It's genetics and taking hormones and doing surgery isn't going to fix that hangup for most people.

It has everything to do with age. If we keep this trajectory and allow more teenagers and pre-teens to transition this won't happen as much anymore because they'll be on hormone blockers before it can warp their bodies in ways they don't want it to.

Do you really think a 12 year old kid who transitions then and there will have the same physical issues of someone who transitions at say, 30?

From the Jenner thread:



(Dunno the age they started, don't really care right now) My first thought was "that's a decent transition, but I can tell easily that he was a female before." Why? Because the eyes give it away. Besides the scar tissue from removing his former breasts, there's elements of his birth gender right in his face. That's what I'm getting at. Can you be "passable," barely noticeable?  Especially now a days? Yeah, but there's still going to be "elements" no matter the age because again: Genetics.

In any case, I'm not going to argue with you on this any further.

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You said it's your last post, but I'm going to point its flaws out anyways.

In a lot of these cases, it feels like people use confirmation bias. You can tell that he's transgender, because you KNOW he's transgender. If I didn't know he was transgender, would I think he is? Probably not. If you didn't know, would really think he was just based off something as small as the eyes? Scar tissue is a thing too, because maybe he used to be overweight or had gynecomastia and had it removed. But you are using your own bias to say,"I would know that person is transgender" because you know that person is transgender. Your argument is flawed because the same argument can be applied to cis men. Similarly, a lot of people don't know someone is gay. But upon hearing that person is gay, they start instinctly looking for signs that person is gay. Then they confirm it to themselves that person is a homosexual. Your argument is flawed because you have reduced that person to small things, the twinkle of the eye, the curve of their smile, to deduce that hey, of course that person is trans, without realizing it.

Not that you don't have a point for some trans people, but for the guy you posted there? Grasping, very, very hard.
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 ::) Okay, babe. Whatever you want to argue yourself into a furor about to make yourself feel better. Maybe it's just seeing a lot of cosmetic surgery that has made me see elements of transitioning and other work done. But I can see very minor differences in genders. Call it confirmation bias if you want. Can't care.

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Yeah, but I also get that the marginalized are very tired, too. Hmm. It's the people who fight on behalf of the oppressed that kinda irk me, really. After all I have a 17 year old daughter to which Tumblr is the real world.

You can be (ugh hate this term) an ally without being Liu Kang Baking a Pie, it's just really easy to stay that way and not mature.

And yeah, it's easy for me to say the hard way is the only way because the aspects of these things that cause the most pain (and consequently cause the strongest emotions) don't touch me outside of abstractions like empathy.

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Protein thread turned into people all piling on Liu Kang.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1054370&page=23

That page and the next mostly.

Example
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=165928829&postcount=1137
Looks like he should have found a more inclusive wording. :hitler
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This thread isn't gay enough now. Too much trans talk.

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This thread isn't gay enough now. Too much trans talk.

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I always figured that people wouldn't gush over others, trans or not, if they looked like their mothers hit them in the face with a branch off the ugly tree.

There are some ugly motherfuckers out there, making a dick, snipping some nuts or adding an extra hole isn't gonna save you in some cases.
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good for caitlyn jenner, but i wish she named herself kaitlyn instead  :-\

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Everyone knows my views on this stuff. But...I kinda have a crush on Janet Mock brehs. I want to bump into her at a bookstore and talk for like an hour, get some coffee, etc.

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Please tell me I am old and missing some severe trollolololo on the subject of Jenner's car wreck:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=166077315&postcount=565

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Even if she were a murderer (she's not), it would be important to let that slide. Celebrating and normalizing transgender women is more important to the health of society at the moment than imprisoning murderers.

The point of imprisoning murderers is to help maintain societal health. There are some things that are more important or more helpful to societal health than that. So yes, in some cases, excusing murder is the best thing.


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Please tell me I am old and missing some severe trollolololo on the subject of Jenner's car wreck:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=166077315&postcount=565

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Even if she were a murderer (she's not), it would be important to let that slide. Celebrating and normalizing transgender women is more important to the health of society at the moment than imprisoning murderers.

The point of imprisoning murderers is to help maintain societal health. There are some things that are more important or more helpful to societal health than that. So yes, in some cases, excusing murder is the best thing.

The ultimate get out of jail free card.
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Please tell me I am old and missing some severe trollolololo on the subject of Jenner's car wreck:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=166077315&postcount=565

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Even if she were a murderer (she's not), it would be important to let that slide. Celebrating and normalizing transgender women is more important to the health of society at the moment than imprisoning murderers.

The point of imprisoning murderers is to help maintain societal health. There are some things that are more important or more helpful to societal health than that. So yes, in some cases, excusing murder is the best thing.


I would say "fuck you" to whoever posted that directly on GAF, if it wouldn't get me banned.  I know the intersection where that wreck happened very well.  It could have easily been me or a friend that Jenner killed.  It's just a dice roll -  bad luck whoever happened to be there at that particular moment when that self-absorbed dipshit was too busy playing around on his phone to be bothered with not killing people, but he's transgender so it's cool.

Whoever says that with a straight face needs to be slapped.  Hard.



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Get away with slaughter because you're transitioning? Where are my tit pills?
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shots fired, also the mods should change his tag link to this post for that Janice picture:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=166083693&postcount=624

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http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=166078767&postcount=594

How dare you ruin our circle jerk with the inconvenient truth

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I'm fuckable.  :(

Pics. And you can't back out now. :ufup

Too shy.  :uguu

Not saying I'm anything that great, but I'd be good enough for a pump n' dump after a few drinks :yeshrug

I said no back outs. :bolo

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I want in on this mantrain too :bolo

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First try with a hooker - gone horribly wrong.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1055693

 :kobeyuck

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So I went down to the street with her, and told her boss, that he is a faker, and that they should chance their website.

Should have called the BBB too.
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I payed $120. But that's a lot of money for me, especially as I just bought Splatoon. I now have $29 left for food for the rest of the month.

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He's gonna starve to death because he paid for a hooker he couldn't fuck and bought a childrens game :neogaf
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Yeah Bruce Jenner's a woman now


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He's gonna starve to death because he paid for a hooker he couldn't fuck and bought a childrens game :neogaf
at least he'll get to play with the game.
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When she laughed, it really felt like she wish she hadn't ended up where she is now, but there's nothing to do about it.
Yeah, in your house. With your little Wii that couldn't.  :lol

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He's gonna starve to death because he paid for a hooker he couldn't fuck and bought a childrens game :neogaf

Not if he dies from the hooker-aids first...  :larry

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I even took the bus at 2 in the night to withdraw money. And I took a shower. Fuck them! And most of all, fuck me.
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Going to be interesting watching various splinter groups within the community rip Jenner apart for every minor thing she says or does. Let her live. She's speaking for herself, her opinions, her journey, her thoughts. Yea she's also speaking as a member of a larger community, but that doesn't mean she has to adhere to whatever hive mind views one segment demands or else she is a traitor/needs to be censored/Five Things Jenner Is Doing To Hurt The Movement/etc.

I see this with black activism all the time. There's apparently no room for differing views. You're either #BlackLivesMatter to the core or a coon, or an enabler of white supremacy, or pro cops, etc. Fuckoutaahere.
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Log off the Coli breh  :hitler

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if my thing didn't get active
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KevinCow asking about how to hire a prostitute, on GAF while having a splatoon avatar

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=166114200&postcount=232

I just, I just can't . I mean I just :dead
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It doesn't seem like the move of a winner, but it's not like they have much a choice at this point.

I don't see Nintendo ever being a winner, but it's a good move for them. It means 1) Android developers like Andy (oh hey, your time to shine and suck two dicks at once!) can port their apps/games to Nintendo's platform pretty easy depending on how modified Nintendos version is and 2) because of #1, more developer support instead of abandoning Nintendo's hardware. When making a game for mobile, developers can then go "oh well sure, why not since porting to it should be easy."

This seems silly. Unity3D already compiles for Wii U, why would having Android make a difference? No one in their right mind develops games natively for Android.
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KevinCow asking about how to hire a prostitute, on GAF while having a splatoon avatar

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=166114200&postcount=232

I just, I just can't . I mean I just :dead
it really was only a matter of time before we reached the bottom of splatoon, poor long-term decision making, depression, and bad hooker experiences on neogaf. who knew it would be all in one thread.
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That thread is actually really sad. Goddamn.
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XCom 2 announced as a PC Exclusive. There is salt everywhere.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1055274

Console stan salt :gaben

Haha, oh man.
Pages of basically portbeg and whine.

Sorry to derail the trans-Splatoon discussion but I just learned thanks to this that there's a Xcom 2  :rejoice
Defo getting a PC then. Makes sense too, some of the shortcomings of the first game were maybe the results of streamlining the UI and such too far.
« Last Edit: June 02, 2015, 12:07:31 AM by VomKriege »
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Yeah, racism has turned into such an unthinkable braincrime that most people have convinced themselves that anyone who is racist is basically the fat guy from American History X with nazi flags all over their house and shit.

I'm racist. I'm an intelligent functional member of society, I'm cordial to everyone in public (including nigs who I almost never see anyway), I live in a normal boring house in a normal boring small town. I genuinely believe in human biodiversity. I believe what the science and evidence has shown: blacks have a smaller IQ on average, are way more prone to senseless violence, have problems with delayed gratification, have a general inability to use future oriented thought or feel empathy for anyone not in their immediate circle of friends/family. Any place on this planet that blacks are a majority is a shithole. This is empirical. Every time there is major white flight, the place goes to shit. Always. There is not one single example of a majority black place on the planet of earth that is economically strong, safe with low crime, to say nothing of innovative and advancing techology. These things are all supported by plain evidence.

NOT ALL BLACKS ARE LIKE THAT. Yeah, and not all tarantulas bite. I still don't pick them up.
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what's with you and  your sudden "Ban me!" crusade?
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what's with you and  your sudden "Ban me!" crusade?
I often post abhorrent shit I come across. I just don't put it in quotes. That's not my writing.
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So I went down to the street with her, and told her boss, that he is a faker, and that they should chance their website.

Should have called the BBB too.

I think u mean TER. :comeon

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I payed $120. But that's a lot of money for me, especially as I just bought Splatoon. I now have $29 left for food for the rest of the month.

I refuse this. I fucking refuse this.

I'm a modern day Salieri, being wheeled in the sanitarium, absolving people for the sin of reading this.

No.
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what's with you and  your sudden "Ban me!" crusade?
I often post abhorrent shit I come across. I just don't put it in quotes. That's not my writing.
But you still like young girls right?
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what's with you and  your sudden "Ban me!" crusade?

Yeah, what is up.
Some sort of "Oh god it is June already crisis"?

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what's with you and  your sudden "Ban me!" crusade?
I often post abhorrent shit I come across. I just don't put it in quotes. That's not my writing.
But you still like young girls right?
Yes, I am still attracted to teenage girls.
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