Mike Brown shooting thread - No indictment! Get out and protest!

[Himu]

https://mobile.twitter.com/aclu_mo/status/502835015206465536

[Joe Molotov]

If there was ever an incident report, it's been shredded by now. They claim there isn't one because they immediately turned the case over to the STL County Police and never bothered filing one.

[benjipwns]

The original story was that someone else wrote one because Wilson couldn't.

My 89 year old white Elevated American grandmother from Kentucky said yesterday that "they should do something about the police down there because those colored folks don't deserve that." I assume she's been paying a bit more attention since my cousin/her grandson and newest great-grandson live in the St. Louis area. (And has a "colored" wife/mother.) So not everyone who brings Furgeson up when talking to me is insane, only 90%.

Though I don't know what to do now that I've found out my grandmother is a LWNJ.

[benjipwns]

whoops

[Madrun Badrun]

http://hwcdn.libsyn.com/p/c/a/5/ca517c24eb7548c0/cswdcc79.mp3?c_id=7530988&expiration=1408805437&hwt=550afee256e64429bf84025ff7275459

yep, agreed

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also agreed that I aint going to do shit other than be outraged for the length of this thread 

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[Great Rumbler]

whoops

O'Reilly came back from vacation to angrily denounce people for bashing the police since the cop suffered a serious injury [the torn eye socket]. Then he immediately followed that up by admitting point-blank that reports of the injury weren't confirmed at all.

[Madrun Badrun]

Ya I agree with Nacy.  It doesn't really matter if he broke the eye socket or just got minor hurt; its easy to see how the cop could have been in the hospital to get xrayed for a broken eye socket and then some PR person says he broke his eye socket.  On the other hand its also easy to believe that any injury and a hospital visit could just be disinformation.

[Great Rumbler]

Yeah, it seems clear at this point all we're going to get is anonymous, sometimes conflicting sources until this grand jury hearing is over with.

Yeah, lots of conflicting report. Mostly anonymous police sources conflicting with eye witness accounts, but still, we should wait until all the facts come out.

[AdmiralViscen]

Let's just wait for the police to release all the facts that they are holding onto for safekeeping. It isn't easy to just put out a picture of a bloody swollen face.

PS I heard there is video of Mike Brown playing two games of mini golf but only paying for one, just sayin'

[Kara]

Though I don't know what to do now that I've found out my grandmother is a LWNJ.

[Himu]

One of the people who blocked me on fb was someone who invited me to a party last year and like, I made friends wit two girls who were there by themselves and she ( the host) went up to me and said,"you're SUCH a good person!" Just for talking to strangers I don't know.

[Kara]

The Good Person of Szechwan (Barbecue)

[Positive Touch]

dunno if the comparison was made in the other thread, but Kara really is like an episode of Frasier come to life.

[Kara]

dunno if the comparison was made in the other thread, but Kara really is like an episode of Frasier come to life.

Would it shock you to find out that that was a family television program in my household.

[Cerveza mas fina]

So whats this video from april Im hearing about from my wife?

[Barraco Barner]

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/aug/23/ferguson-officer-relieved-duty-video-racist-remarks

Later in his remarks, Page told a questioner in the audience: “Policemen are very cynical. I know I am. I don’t trust anybody. I hate everybody. I hate y’all, too. I hate everybody. I’m into diversity – I kill everybody. I don’t care.”

 :lenowned

[Madrun Badrun]

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/24/us/in-washington-second-thoughts-on-arming-police.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&version=LedeSum&module=a-lede-package-region&region=lede-package&WT.nav=lede-package

w00t, the thing that white people were outraged at is getting some official attention.

[Boogie]

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/aug/23/ferguson-officer-relieved-duty-video-racist-remarks

Later in his remarks, Page told a questioner in the audience: “Policemen are very cynical. I know I am. I don’t trust anybody. I hate everybody. I hate y’all, too. I hate everybody. I’m into diversity – I kill everybody. I don’t care.”

 :lenowned

Holy shit... 

[Phoenix Dark]

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/24/us/in-washington-second-thoughts-on-arming-police.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&version=LedeSum&module=a-lede-package-region&region=lede-package&WT.nav=lede-package

w00t, the thing that white people were outraged at is getting some official attention.

just watch how quickly this will turn into "govt trying to take ur gunz"

[Eric P]

Bodycount played Afropunk yesterday and Ice-T went on a good five minute rant about all of this before going into "Cop Killer."  but it's ok, he prefaced it with #notallcops.

[Madrun Badrun]

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/aug/23/ferguson-officer-relieved-duty-video-racist-remarks

Later in his remarks, Page told a questioner in the audience: “Policemen are very cynical. I know I am. I don’t trust anybody. I hate everybody. I hate y’all, too. I hate everybody. I’m into diversity – I kill everybody. I don’t care.”

 :lenowned

Holy shit... 

[ZephyrFate]

[Dickie Dee]

[Phoenix Dark]

[Joe Molotov]

(Image removed from quote.)

And then Officer Todd punched the liberal ACLU professor so hard, he dropped his copy of the Fourth Amendment and ran away from the Ferguson protest crying.

[Madrun Badrun]

(Image removed from quote.)

"Just keep your mouth shut little girl.  No one would believe you anyways.  Now stop resisting."

[DCharlieJP]

the difference between us and them is shoddy photoshop, faux patriosm, twin tower imagery, white privs and Jebus?

[AdmiralViscen]

the difference between us and them is shoddy photoshop, faux patriosm, twin tower imagery, white privs and Jebus?

Are you originally from NY? I feel like everyone online calls it WTC

[Kara]

https://www.jacobinmag.com/2014/08/itemizing-atrocity/

[DCharlieJP]

Are you originally from NY? I feel like everyone online calls it WTC

nope - not even American.

[Barraco Barner]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/darren-wilsons-first-job-was-on-a-troubled-police-force-disbanded-by-authorities/2014/08/23/1ac796f0-2a45-11e4-8593-da634b334390_story.html?wpmk=MK0000203

Some info about Wilson and the police force he worked at prior to Ferguson.

[Phoenix Dark]

pertinent information on the shooter? whoa whoa now, that's going too far!

[benjipwns]

I think we should wait for all the facts to come in before we pass judgement on Peace Warrior Wilson.

[Phoenix Dark]

@ShaunKing · 51m
Family members of Emmett Till, Trayvon Martin, Sean Bell, Oscar Grant, and Jordan Davis have all joined the Mike Brown funeral.

[Madrun Badrun]

@ShaunKing · 51m
Family members of Emmett Till, Trayvon Martin, Sean Bell, Oscar Grant, and Jordan Davis have all joined the Mike Brown funeral.

I wonder if this group has a facebook page

[benjipwns]

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/08/25/more-white-house-officials-at-michael-browns-funeral-than-thatchers/

The White House sent three officials to attend Monday's funeral for Michael Brown in St. Louis -- three more than it sent for former British Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher's funeral last year.

The administration's handling of the Brown funeral already has started to raise comparisons between the two.

 

[Great Rumbler]

Gotta love the language of that line tacked on at the end. No one outside of Fox News is making that comparison or would even have thought to make it.

[Joe Molotov]

The White House should have sent protesters to Thatcher's funeral. 

[Phoenix Dark]

Gotta love the language of that line tacked on at the end. No one outside of Fox News is making that comparison or would even have thought to make it.

that's their schtick: create faux controversies by framing right wing fever swamp gripes as national stories.

"A terrorist fist jab? Tune in to see the gesture that has everyone talking."

[Great Rumbler]

Look at these TOP RANKING OFFICIALS that were in attendance:

For Monday's funeral, the White House sent two officials with the White House Office of Public Engagement as well as Broderick Johnson, chairman of the My Brother's Keeper Task Force.

lmao

[Himu]

With Fox's language I'm sure they thought all those black people were high ranking officials because APPARENTLY AMERICA IS FOR DARKIES NOW.

[benjipwns]

Look at these TOP RANKING OFFICIALS that were in attendance:

For Monday's funeral, the White House sent two officials with the White House Office of Public Engagement as well as Broderick Johnson, chairman of the My Brother's Keeper Task Force.

lmao

Yeah, but look who they sent to Thatcher's:

For that, the White House sent former secretaries of State George Schultz and James Baker III -- as well as the charge d'affaires to the U.K. and the former U.S. ambassador.

Pretty much an insult to not send Broderick Johnson, chairman of the My Brother's Keeper Task Force.

[Phoenix Dark]

This is the equivalent of sending Black Widow and Hawkeye to the funeral.

[benjipwns]

The White House also came under criticism recently when Obama did not attend the funeral for Maj. Gen. Harold Greene, the highest-ranking U.S. military officer killed in combat since the Vietnam War.

He was killed in a suspected insider attack in Afghanistan. Obama was in Martha's Vineyard during the funeral, but Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel and Army Chief of Staff Gen. Ray Odierno attended.

When Greene's body arrived at Dover Air Force Base days earlier, Odierno and Army Secretary John McHugh reportedly were there for the transfer. While White House officials typically do not attend these transfers, Obama and past U.S. presidents do from time to time. Obama and top Defense officials attended the transfer, for instance, of the remains of 30 U.S. service members killed in Afghanistan in 2011 when their helicopter was shot down.

Meanwhile, the highest-level administration official at the 2010 funeral for border agent Brian Terry was then-Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano.

Shameful.

[Himu]

This is the equivalent of sending Black Widow and Hawkeye to the funeral.

The Wonder Twins.

[benjipwns]

That article is actually a masterpiece, it's just a bunch of unrelated non sequiturs except for the fact that they all have to do with funerals of some sort*. But it'd be hard to top it in strongly implying that Obama hates our troops, our border patrol and our allies but loves fist-jab giving black thugs without ever saying it.

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*And that Obama himself attended none of them, treating all of the them equally.

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[Kara]

The White House should have sent protesters to Thatcher's funeral. 

(Paraphrasing a Scottish comedian) or the Army Corps. of Engineers to dig the road to hell.

[benjipwns]

[etiolate]

.....Opiate?

[Phoenix Dark]

How anyone can listen to that and believe Brown charged the officer is beyond me. The pause seals the deal.

[Cerveza mas fina]

OH HE IS STILL MOVING BANG BANG BANG

[benjipwns]

Support Darren Wilson
Yesterday · Edited
Remember, we are the example of peaceful.

WE ALL ARE DARREN WILSON!

[Joe Molotov]

Different case, I know, but I feel like this should probably go here:

http://www.vice.com/read/autopsy-contradicts-the-polices-account-of-victor-white-iiis-shooting-in-the-back-of-a-cop-car-666

First off, the cause of death according to the report was a suicide, which is drastically different from the seemingly accidental shooting initially described by police officials. According to Victor III's family, he had no history of mental illness or depression. And even if he did, the back seat of a cop car at one in the morning is a strange place to decide to snuff it.

Despite initial statements made by authorities that said Victor III was shot in the back, the report describes no back wounds at all. Instead, his cause of death is described as a gunshot to his right chest that perforated his left lung and heart, exited through his left armpit, and lacerated his upper arm. It was reported in initial local accounts of the shooting that Victor III was handcuffed behind his back. So in order for him to have shot himself in the chest, he would have had to pull himself through his cuffed arms in the backseat of that cop car—and of course, have a gun in the first place.

The report also lists two abrasions on Victor III's upper left face and around his eye, which seems to be in line with what White's father, Victor White Sr., told me a couple weeks after his son's death: "I know they beat him before he arrived at the station," he said, "because those who were with him before he was arrested said he didn’t have a mark on him.”

He didn't accidentally shoot himself in the back, he intentionally shot himself in the chest. After he beat himself up.

[benjipwns]

Reminds me of this story:

On July 29 in Jonesboro, Arkansas, 21-year-old Chavis Carter and two companions were pulled over for suspicious driving. Police searched the car and found about ten bucks worth of marijuana, some baggies, some scales, and an as-yet-unidentified white powder. Carter's companions were let go, but Carter was put in the back of a patrol car because he had given cops a fake name and had skipped out on a drug diversion program in Mississippi (he had plead guilty to one count of selling marijuana). Carter was first uncuffed, then cuffed after a second search revealed the aforementioned charges, as well as scales and white powder. Somehow, at some point during that evening, Carter ended up shot in the head while cuffed and apparently left alone long enough to pull out a 380-caliber Cobra semi-automatic from...somewhere. Cops say it was self-inflicted

...

Carter's mother says her son was let handed, but he shot himself in the right temple (cops won't confirm), also that he called his girlfriend when he was getting arrested and said he would call her later, suggesting that suicide over ten bucks worth of weed was not on the man's mind. The Jonesboro chief of police Michael Yates that CNN reporter Randi Caye interviews, near the end of the report won't confirm that investigators (which now include the FBI) have ruled out that Carter was killed by one of the officers on the scene, though the chief says it doesn't seem to be what happened. He also admits that nearby officers' apparent inability to tell what gunfire sounds like (Caye is incredulous while asking this question) is not a good sign. It is also "disappointing" that the officers found the drugs and paraphernalia, but missed a gun.

There were dash cams on both police cruisers present at the scene, but they were parked back to back, therefore the shooting was not captured on video.

A state crime lab report claims Chavis Carter, the man shot to death while handcuffed in the back of a Jonesboro, Arkansas police cruiser, committed suicide.

The left-handed Carter, the report claims, retrieved a 380-caliber Cobra semi-automatic, which he had managed to conceal from officers during two searches, and used his right hand to shoot himself in the head.

...

"How (did) he shoot himself in his right temple and he (was) left-handed? In handcuffs?" one of his friends, Bianca Tipton, asked.

The state crime lab report, released to The Associated Press and other news organizations under a public records request, didn't answer that question.

Instead, the report says Carter's death was ruled a suicide based on autopsy findings and investigative conclusions from the Jonesboro Police Department, which has faced questions from Carter's family and community members about the circumstances surrounding the July 28 death.

"He was cuffed and placed into a police car, where apparently he produced a weapon, and despite being handcuffed, shot himself in the head," the report says.

There is no backseat footage of Carter himself.

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According to their written report, officers took Carter out of the patrol car, placed him under arrest, searched him, handcuffed his hands behind his back, and then locked him inside with the vehicle’s windows tightly closed. Several witnesses observed it all. An aunt of Carter’s arrived at the scene, presumably summoned by cellphone. Informed of the charges, she drove off.

As the officers walked toward the second patrol car to interview the other suspects, the report says, “I saw a vehicle driving north on Haltom and then heard a loud thump with a metallic sound. I thought the vehicle had ran over a piece of metal on the roadway.”

Can't seem to find the video on youtube anymore, but the police department actually made a video of a bunch of them showing how it's possible to shoot yourself in the head while handcuffed behind your back.

EDIT: Found it:

[benjipwns]

Makes me wonder...maybe Darren Wilson was familiar with this strange phenomenon of young black males committing suicide in the back of police cars while handcuffed and was trying to prevent Brown from doing so. And Brown was so angry that he couldn't commit suicide in the back of the police car while handcuffed that he flew into a berserker rage.

[I'm a Puppy!]

that pause in the shooting is pretty damning.
I mean 6 shots then a pause? Are we supposed to believe that Mike Brown got shot six times and then continue to attack enough to warrant another 5?

also, since he was shot 6 times that means that at least 1 shot would have to hit him from the first volley then the cop continued to shoot.  That's crazy.

[I'm a Puppy!]

Issue is that you'd have to believe that Mike Brown was charging forward like a kid impersonating a bull for that argument to hold any water.
Its far more believable to envision that Brown was down when the last bullet hit him.

Also, don't see how anyone could think that Mike Brown was actually fighitng the killer at this point. If he was trying to go for the gun how is it possible that the cop shot 10-11 times and only hit 6? That beggars belief.

[seagrams hotsauce]

To me it sounds like six shots, followed by four, maybe five more. So he was hit at least once before the second round of shots, right? What's the claim gonna be? That Wilson missed all but one of the first shots, Brown was still charging at him despite being shot, and Wilson connected every shot taken after that? Makes sense!

[Phoenix Dark]

If you believe that the only or most likely explanation for the location of the head wound is that Brown charged the officer, during which he received five shots first, you're fucking crazy. End of discussion. We're not talking about some combatants in Vietnam dusted off angeldust and adrenaline shrugging off gun shots. MOST people under normal circumstances would be down after one shot, maybe two. Go watch some ISIS videos and see how people react to getting shot in the leg.

Worse yet, the pause in the audio makes the rhino charge alibi even more remote. What, Brown got hit a few times, paused like a turn based RPG, charged again, and was defeated by Wilson's final attack(s)? It doesn't make sense.

[Madrun Badrun]

I believe in an ideology of small government, Christian democracy, and that all black males are zombies.  I think, despite being Canadian, I could get elected to a school board, maybe be mayor somewhere, with that shit.