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Golden Sun 2 is the best GBA game
« on: August 15, 2014, 03:45:50 PM »
am i lyin?

great battle system? check

awesome world and environments? check

phat lewt and crafting system? check

fluid, unique class system? check

exploration rewarded? check

great music and production values? check

arena mode? check

yeah

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Re: Golden Sun 2 is the best GBA game
« Reply #1 on: August 15, 2014, 03:47:36 PM »
Metroid: zero mission, bb

Maybe Castlevania: aria of sorrow
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Re: Golden Sun 2 is the best GBA game
« Reply #2 on: August 15, 2014, 03:53:00 PM »
Aria of Sorrow is the correct answer. Don't be hatin, Esch.

Also, any number of Fire Emblem games are better than GS2.
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Re: Golden Sun 2 is the best GBA game
« Reply #3 on: August 15, 2014, 04:02:12 PM »


Aria of Sorrow is the correct answer. Don't be hatin, Esch.

Also, any number of Fire Emblem games are better than GS2.

Or boktai, or battle network
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Re: Golden Sun 2 is the best GBA game
« Reply #4 on: August 15, 2014, 04:06:54 PM »
 :what
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Re: Golden Sun 2 is the best GBA game
« Reply #5 on: August 15, 2014, 04:10:43 PM »
It had some great art, for sure.

Also, anyone remember Kuru Kuru Kururin? I only played it for like 5 minutes over a decade ago, but whenever I maneuver some long piece of wood through a tight space, I can't help but thinking about it.

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Re: Golden Sun 2 is the best GBA game
« Reply #6 on: August 15, 2014, 04:20:23 PM »
Metroid: zero mission, bb

Maybe Castlevania: aria of sorrow

yes

fuck a side scroller

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Re: Golden Sun 2 is the best GBA game
« Reply #7 on: August 15, 2014, 04:23:29 PM »
even tho it had shitty levels the bosses in astro boy were so good that I nominate that
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Re: Golden Sun 2 is the best GBA game
« Reply #8 on: August 15, 2014, 05:06:49 PM »
Advance Wars >
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Re: Golden Sun 2 is the best GBA game
« Reply #9 on: August 15, 2014, 05:12:23 PM »
you guys should really give a spin to boktai with the "FUCK THE SOLAR SENSOR" patch, it's like kojima best game, it's basicaly stealth castlevania + puzzles and it's so fucking good, there is a lot of attention to the details, the music is amazing, all of the enemies react in their own way which leads to interessing scenario, for example there are mummies that are blinds but they react to sounds by throwing bombs on the direction where they hear the sound so you can trick them into blowing up other enemies by tapping on the wall... or there are cockatrices that as soon as they see you, they go apeshit and starts firing stone bullet which again you can use against other enemies

it has actualy good puzzles too! in one part of the game you find a pass code on a signboard, so later you find a door that requires a password and you put the password that you found earlier... but it doesn't work, so you go back to the signboard aaaaand the password has changed, the solution?

spoiler (click to show/hide)
the password is the current in-game time, i was like :whoo when i realized
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and listen to the music :lawd



i should replay it, so that at least someone in this thread will play a good gba game at least! :heh
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Re: Golden Sun 2 is the best GBA game
« Reply #10 on: August 15, 2014, 05:37:59 PM »
Astro Boy, feggits
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Re: Golden Sun 2 is the best GBA game
« Reply #11 on: August 15, 2014, 05:46:06 PM »
GS2 and Aria are tied for me. I liked GS1's soundtrack better, but GS2 has so much more gameplay.

I did get tired of the game ticket/lucky medal thing so I hacked in plenty of them.

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Re: Golden Sun 2 is the best GBA game
« Reply #12 on: August 15, 2014, 05:49:58 PM »
LISTS

My current GBA library

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Advance Wars
Advance Wars 2: Black Hole Rising
Back to Stone
Bubble Bobble Old & New
Castlevania: Aria of Sorrow
Chu Chu Rocket!
CIMA: The Enemy
DemiKids: Dark Version
Drilldozer
Final Fantasy 1 & 2: Dawn of Souls
Final Fantasy 4 Advance
Final Fantasy 5 Advance
Final Fantasy 6 Advance
Final Fantasy Tactics Advance
Golden Sun
Golden Sun: The Lost Age
Kingdom Hearts: Chain of Memories
Mazes of Fate
Megaman & Bass
Metroid Fusion
Metroid Zero Mission
Phantasy Star Collection
Pokemon Emerald
Pokemon FireRed
Pokemon Sapphire
Rebelstar Tactical Command
Super Mario Advance
Super Mario Advance 2: Super Mario World
Super Mario Advance 4: Super Mario Bros. 3
Super Robot Taisen Original Generation
Sword of Mana
Tactics Ogre: The Knight of Lodis
Tales of Phantasia
The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past
Ty The Tasmanian Tiger 2: Bush Rescue
Ty The Tasmanian Tiger 3: Night of the Quinkan
Wario Ware Inc. Mega Microgames
Yggdra Union
Mario Tennis: Power Tour

Most are complete with a few loose carts.
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Re: Golden Sun 2 is the best GBA game
« Reply #13 on: August 15, 2014, 05:51:24 PM »
Sword of Mana? Godawful remake of FFA.

Re: Golden Sun 2 is the best GBA game
« Reply #14 on: August 15, 2014, 06:16:47 PM »
GS was such a good series on the GBA. Dark Dawn on the DS broka mah heart.

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Re: Golden Sun 2 is the best GBA game
« Reply #15 on: August 15, 2014, 06:46:29 PM »
GS1 made me want to bash my head in. I don't think I even made it through the first dungeon.

Re: Golden Sun 2 is the best GBA game
« Reply #16 on: August 15, 2014, 06:48:46 PM »
Why? Too simplistic? I got it when the GBA first released so I guess I'm a little nostalgic about it too. Plus there were no other RPGs for it at the time.

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Re: Golden Sun 2 is the best GBA game
« Reply #17 on: August 15, 2014, 07:13:43 PM »
No, the long-winded intro sequence put me off from the start. Dunno exactly why I stopped shortly after, but it really did nothing for me.
I liked the battle screen though.

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Re: Golden Sun 2 is the best GBA game
« Reply #18 on: August 15, 2014, 07:14:48 PM »
All of Golden Sun was legit

Re: Golden Sun 2 is the best GBA game
« Reply #19 on: August 15, 2014, 07:16:54 PM »
As long as we pretend Dark Dawn never happened. LALALALA I CAN'T HEAR YOU

Re: Golden Sun 2 is the best GBA game
« Reply #20 on: August 15, 2014, 07:31:29 PM »
It ain't even the best RPG on the system, let alone best game.

Astro Boy, feggits

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« Reply #21 on: August 15, 2014, 07:38:32 PM »
Recommendations on better RPGs then? I dug out my SP+ the other day.

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« Reply #22 on: August 15, 2014, 07:42:41 PM »
My favorite GBA game is Ubisoft Montreal's TMNT. Beatiful sprite work, responsive controls and fast paced combat. I've never been a fan of sidescrolling brawlers but that one was great.

Second favorite is definitely Final Fantasy Tactics Advance. Tons of classes/items, addicting tactical combat and a story that doesn't get in the way of the gameplay.

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Re: Golden Sun 2 is the best GBA game
« Reply #23 on: August 15, 2014, 07:43:21 PM »
Recommendations on better RPGs then? I dug out my SP+ the other day.

LISTS
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Re: Golden Sun 2 is the best GBA game
« Reply #24 on: August 15, 2014, 07:44:16 PM »
TMNT was damn good. One of the last games for the GBA too, IIRC. I think FFVI Advance was released at the end too. The GBA got overshadowed by the DS after Nov. '04, but it had games released for it right up until early 07.

Re: Golden Sun 2 is the best GBA game
« Reply #25 on: August 15, 2014, 07:50:33 PM »
Recommendations on better RPGs then? I dug out my SP+ the other day.

LISTS

I already played all your list! Except for Yggdra Union. No thanks.

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Re: Golden Sun 2 is the best GBA game
« Reply #26 on: August 15, 2014, 08:08:09 PM »
Theres not much else to play, and they arent exactly cream of the crop
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Re: Golden Sun 2 is the best GBA game
« Reply #27 on: August 15, 2014, 08:18:35 PM »
I've heard the Boktai games are worth a try.

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« Reply #28 on: August 15, 2014, 08:42:54 PM »
How is Rhythm Tengoku not on your list, demi?

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Re: Golden Sun 2 is the best GBA game
« Reply #29 on: August 15, 2014, 08:43:06 PM »
(stares adoringly at his Ninja-Five-0 cart)

Re: Golden Sun 2 is the best GBA game
« Reply #30 on: August 15, 2014, 08:43:42 PM »
You could eventually make that cart the basis of your retirement.

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Re: Golden Sun 2 is the best GBA game
« Reply #31 on: August 15, 2014, 08:44:31 PM »
How is Rhythm Tengoku not on your list, demi?

Because it never came to America. I dont do Import.
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« Reply #32 on: August 15, 2014, 08:46:01 PM »
(stares adoringly at his Ninja-Five-0 cart)
I had the opportunity to buy it before it skyrocketed in price. Oh well, my morals are flexible...

How is Rhythm Tengoku not on your list, demi?

Because it never came to America. I dont do Import.
Ugh. It's really easy to navigate. Or is it just the principle of the thing? Scared you might open the floodgates?

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Re: Golden Sun 2 is the best GBA game
« Reply #33 on: August 15, 2014, 08:58:50 PM »
I have a EZ Flash IV, if I really want to play imports.
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Re: Golden Sun 2 is the best GBA game
« Reply #34 on: August 15, 2014, 09:00:14 PM »
What's keeping you?

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Re: Golden Sun 2 is the best GBA game
« Reply #35 on: August 15, 2014, 09:00:42 PM »
From playing it? I dont feel like it?
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Re: Golden Sun 2 is the best GBA game
« Reply #36 on: August 15, 2014, 09:01:22 PM »
I had an M3 Perfect. Real time saves and everything. Threw it away a few years ago. I don't know what I was thinking.

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« Reply #37 on: August 15, 2014, 09:06:23 PM »
From playing it? I dont feel like it?
Fair enough. :shaq2

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« Reply #38 on: August 15, 2014, 09:10:48 PM »
boktai is awesome and a must-play for the system
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Re: Golden Sun 2 is the best GBA game
« Reply #39 on: August 15, 2014, 09:11:39 PM »
How annoying is the sun-light mechanic? Rather, how critical is it?

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« Reply #40 on: August 15, 2014, 09:13:03 PM »
 There's a patch for those of us with "flexible morals"  :wag

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« Reply #41 on: August 15, 2014, 09:19:02 PM »
How annoying is the sun-light mechanic? Rather, how critical is it?

quite critical, to recharge ammo you press A to raise your gun but the gun will only recharge if the sun is out, when the sun isn't out there is a system where you can store extra sunlight into a bank and then retrieve it on later times... also when you defeat a boss, the boss goes into a coffin, you then have to drag the coffin back at the start of the level and then burn the shit out of it with a machine that shoot solar laser, but if the sun isn't out the solar lasers won't come out so you literaly can't proceed with the game if it's night, i find the idea of a game that has a time limit dictated by real event quite hilarious to be honest :lol

some puzzle also require you to being under the sun to be cleared

but as i said if you don't want to deal with this shit there is a nice patch for the rom which will let you control how much sun is out at any moment

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« Reply #42 on: August 15, 2014, 09:25:55 PM »
There's a patch for those of us with "flexible morals"  :wag
I kinda want to to experience it the way it was intended, but seeing how that's kept me from playing it for years, even though I own the cart already... Guess I'll go the patch route then.

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« Reply #43 on: August 15, 2014, 09:27:44 PM »
I was just giving you crap. Andrex did the same thing to me the first time I mentioned a flash cart. God knows it's more useful than dragging all your real carts around.

On a side note, a friend of mine got a pretty bad sunburn when that game came out  :lol

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« Reply #44 on: August 15, 2014, 09:28:40 PM »
Only the first game required the sun. The sequels let you use regular lamps, afaik. Theres also Lunar Knights on DS, which has no sensor.
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« Reply #45 on: August 15, 2014, 09:36:12 PM »
I was just giving you crap. Andrex did the same thing to me the first time I mentioned a flash cart. God knows it's more useful than dragging all your real carts around.
Oh, I didn't take it that way. I'm not above pirating stuff, but I do try to buy whenever I can, even if it means waiting years eight months for a palatable price.

Only the first game required the sun. The sequels let you use regular lamps, afaik. Theres also Lunar Knights on DS, which has no sensor.
Convenience prevails. :rejoice

I bought Lunar Knights before I even touched Boktai once. Go on second-hand buying binges, brehs...

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« Reply #46 on: August 15, 2014, 09:43:33 PM »
I didn't play as many newer games during the GBA era to focus on school, language-learning, and other stuff, but I dunno if I'd agree with GS2 being the best GBA game.  I don't even think it's the best RPG on the system.  It has some cool stuff like being able to transfer some stuff from the previous game to your current game and the music came out of an era from before Sakuraba started losing some of his touch, and the game itself looks very nice. 

But in all honesty, I feel like I've played better games on the system, even if we exclude ports like FF5a, Shining Force, Shin Megami Tensei, Breath of Fire, etc.  Plus then you have to start looking at genre separation from SRPGs, console-style RPGs, computer-style RPGs, etc.  I feel like comparing SRPGs like Fist of Mars, Super Robot Taisen, or Advance Wars to a console-style RPG like Golden Sun 2 would be a bit weird since I personally look at the two subgenres as apples and oranges.  I'm more comfortable comparing console-style TB-RPGs with console-style ARPGs instead.  I'm not sure if I can properly count the card RPGs like Suikoden Card Stories on GBA even though I'd like to for pure fangirlism's sake.  When you stack the GBA's RPG library against a lot of platforms' RPG libraries, though, you'll find that the GBA's fairly lacking (but that might be due to limitations). 

I even think the two Narikiri Dungeon games feel more fun since you're actively doing something in them, and they have some neat job system stuff with customizable jobsets.  Narikiri Dungeon 3 goes into an SRPG/ARPG hybrid whereby you're playing on an SRPG plain before you engage in an LMBS battle.  Narikiri Dungeon 2 is a straight-up ARPG with job/character classes.  They're Tales games so the stories are naturally not that great, but the balancing and job system ideas are certainly there.  They aren't my favourite NariDan games, but they are what they are.

Superstar Saga is a more traditional choice to list, but the game itself is balanced and it feels more cohesive and has better dialogue/storytelling than Super Mario RPG in my eyes. 

Oriental Blue: Ao no Tengai is a fairly decent balanced Tengai Makyou game.  Although it has one core ending, it has a branching storyline system which allows you to take different paths to that endpoint.  The story might be influenced by the in-game clock, by what decisions you make, randomly, etc.  If you lose against a boss, you can continue through the story, but some events might be closed to you if you lost.  However, some events open up to you if you've lost.  So it's a game that you can go through time and time again.  Skills aren't fixed to certain amounts of damage, so they're useful from the beginning to the end of the game.  I think it's one of the best games on the system for its flexibility as an RPG and its replay value.

Mother 3 is still my favourite RPG on the system, though.  Really happy I grabbed a copy before they became harder to find.  It's my favourite Mother game, and as someone who doesn't wax poetic about Earthbound like many people do, I feel like its storytelling and mini-scenarios via chapter-based storytelling blend together into one cohesive story about the errors of greed and militarism and the overall message that the game is trying to convey about love.  Battles feel better when you're trying to figure out the battle track's rhythm to score more hits. It's also a very good looking sprite-based game to me.

If we're looking at straight-up GBA game, I still can't make a good assertion for that one best GBA game since I'm still catching up.  I played Metroid: Zero Mission and Metroid Fusion a few weeks ago for the first time, for example, and enjoyed Zero Mission and its extra mission a lot.  It gave me a lot of what I wanted out of the original Metroid and didn't have the oddball pacing that Fusion had.  Oscar was mostly right when he said I'd like it more than Fusion.

At this juncture, I feel like my favourite GBA game is Mother 3 because of its writing.  But there are lots of stuff I like on the system.  The first Boktai is very good, Puyo Pop Fever is super-fun, some of those RPGs I listed above are great, Ninja Five-O is great, the Harry Potter GBA RPGs by Griptonite were decent, Mega Man Zero 3 is good, The Minish Cap is nice to look at, Astro Boy needs a once-through, and the Sonic Advance games are decent outside of the last one.

I haven't played the Megaman Battle Network games past the first one, but I feel like they wouldn't jive well with me despite being a big Mega Man fan. I tried the first Star Force game and I still haven't beaten it even though I'm at the end and from what I can tell, the BN games are similar to the SF ones.

So... while Golden Sun: The Lost Age may not be best on the platform, it's among the better RPGs on the platform but it is not the best game on the platform to me.

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« Reply #47 on: August 15, 2014, 09:51:19 PM »
Here are some translated GBA games if you use emulator or flashcart:

Mother 3
Oriental Blue
DQ Monsters Caravan Heart
Fire Emblem: Sword of Seals
Super Robot Taisen J
Kinda-Sorta Unfinished Boktai 3


GBA scene is very flat and not active, unfortunately.
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« Reply #48 on: August 15, 2014, 09:53:37 PM »
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Hm. Hm. M-hm.

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« Reply #49 on: August 15, 2014, 09:54:22 PM »
I should try Mother 3. I keep forgetting about it being on the GBA.

I've never heard of Oriental Blue or the series. I'll have to give it a try.

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I should try Mother 3. I keep forgetting about it being on the GBA.

I've never heard of Oriental Blue or the series. I'll have to give it a try.

The bulk of the Tengai Makyou series haven't gotten translated before.  It's a shame because one of the games in the series was one of the first RPGs ever with voice acting, if not the first.  I've always loved those alternate reality types of games.  This is completely irrelevant for the thread, but I've always figured that people would like Tengai Makyou IV for the Saturn just because of the map alone (click to enlarge)

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Re: Golden Sun 2 is the best GBA game
« Reply #51 on: August 15, 2014, 10:22:44 PM »
Mother 3.  :rejoice

Beat that shit about a week ago. Instantly shot up to one of my favorite GBA games.

Re: Golden Sun 2 is the best GBA game
« Reply #52 on: August 15, 2014, 10:33:05 PM »
That map is still probably infinitely more accurate compared to our knowledge of Japan's geography. Or even location.

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« Reply #53 on: August 15, 2014, 10:45:29 PM »
mother 3 is definitely my fave. wouldn't call best because i never replayed it, but I replayed zero mission and aria like 4 times in a row in 2004. :whew
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« Reply #54 on: August 15, 2014, 10:48:43 PM »
yeah, that's actually a pretty impressively accurate rendition.  when i ask my students to find canada on a map they immediately head towards europe.

I like how they think Canada is in Europe. Says a lot about murica, I guess.

Re: Golden Sun 2 is the best GBA game
« Reply #55 on: August 15, 2014, 10:56:50 PM »
What's the reason?

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« Reply #56 on: August 15, 2014, 11:05:52 PM »
 :lol An example of rote learning eh?

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« Reply #57 on: August 15, 2014, 11:18:45 PM »
Come to think of it, our maps in school had the UK in the center - timezone related, I suppose. So I'd probably assume Russia was off to the right regardless of the map as a kid.

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« Reply #58 on: August 16, 2014, 12:04:41 AM »
That map singlehandedly sold me on Tengai Makyou as a franchise and got me pissed off at Vic Ireland again for toying with my emotions.

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« Reply #59 on: August 16, 2014, 10:06:47 AM »


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