Jon Stewart is leaving The Daily Show at the end of this year

[Dickie Dee]

What season of South Park did they start focusing a bit more on Randy? Seems relatively recent to me, so it's hard to dismiss the later episodes based on that alone.

[Himu]

I'd rather have bee hosting, period

racist

Comedy Central already has a black host with his own show right after the daily show.

It wasn't a problem when there were two white hosts in a row. 

I didn't say I have a problem with two black hosts in a row. But being realistic, it's not going happen BECAUSE a there will be two black hosted shows in a row. Which is why it WON'T happen, not that it shouldn't happen.

[Himu]

I think bee is his best. Williams isn't as funny as bee

[Dickie Dee]

Williams is ok but don't get the overwhelming love for her. Bee dances comedic circles around her.

[Himu]

Yup.

[kingkitty]

I would rather choose the decorated veteran Adolf Hitler over Jessica Williams. (no i wouldn't thats a terrible joke sorry)

Actually, Aasif Mandvi might be a good replacement. His segments were pretty killer, including the one about  Rick Scott's welfare drug tests. And he's handsome.

He was also in the Last Airbender movie.

[Raban]

The people in here suggesting Daily Show correspondents take the host's chair make me cock an eyebrow. They might be able to handle the first half of the show and celebrity guests, but when it comes to grilling politicians or waxing philosophic with nonfiction authors, I don't see them holding it together.

However I'm having a hard time picturing anybody that could fill that position. Maybe rope Rachel Maddow and drive the show even further out of comedy territory? She already injects a lot of bitter humor into her own show. Or maybe Charlie Brooker? I feel like he'd probably bring back some of that Kilborn vibe that all but disappeared during Stewart's tenure.

[Himu]

I think you're deifying Stewart and holding him at an inordinately high position. Rachel Maddow? Daily Show is about politics and news, but it's a comedy first and foremost. Given that many correspondents - John Oliver in the past - took over for Jon and that Jon has had a history of grooming his correspondents' comedy to be razor sharp - Colbert, Oliver, Carrell, Helms, Wilmore;etc. - I'm not particularly sure why you think it's odd people think a correspondent, hand picked by Jon himself, should take over following his departure. The Daily Show has a very good track record of taking capable comedians and giving them a great tool set to make great hard, biting political takes even outside The Daily Show.

[seagrams hotsauce]

The people in here suggesting Daily Show correspondents take the host's chair make me cock an eyebrow. They might be able to handle the first half of the show and celebrity guests, but when it comes to grilling politicians or waxing philosophic with nonfiction authors, I don't see them holding it together.

However I'm having a hard time picturing anybody that could fill that position. Maybe rope Rachel Maddow and drive the show even further out of comedy territory? She already injects a lot of bitter humor into her own show. Or maybe Charlie Brooker? I feel like he'd probably bring back some of that Kilborn vibe that all but disappeared during Stewart's tenure.

Maddow isn't funny and I have a hard time believing TDS is gonna be taken 'further out of comedy territory' on a channel called "Comedy Central"

[Great Rumbler]

a channel called "Comedy Central"

Cable channel names stopped meaning anything a long time ago.

[Himu]

a channel called "Comedy Central"

Cable channel names stopped meaning anything a long time ago.

Comedy central is pretty squarely situated in comedy. Let's not go this route. Everything they air is comedy, and they have literally zero reason to venture outside of that niche given there's not any other channel that devoted to comedy. In terms of money making, Comedy Central makes money off comedy. MTV stopped playing music videos because music videos are basically ads for albums, and look what happened to the album? MTV's music video thing was a mutually beneficial agreement between the music biz and MTV. With music biz now in the dumps and not making as much cash, this means less cash for MTV. Comedy Central has no such problem; comedy will always sell.

If you're going to make such an argument to Seagrams' post you need to analyze WHY most modern cable channel names don't mean much and what that means for CC.

[Phoenix Dark]

I like Rachel Maddow overall but nah...

Stewart is definitely a liberal but he doesn't really carry water for democrats like Maddow does. His interview with Nancy Pelosi was painful, and he didn't give her an out. He just kept extending rope and let her hang herself as he half giggled half cried.

[Stoney Mason]

Maddow is fine doing her own thing but first and foremost the show is a comedy show. And it will remain that. So she wouldn't fit.

They will either promote from within or try to find the young next Jon Stewart. The problem is that latter isn't easy. There are lots of young comedians. And a small percentage of them dabble in politics. But very few would be able to have a deft hand like people are used to from Stewart. Not to mention Stewart grew into the job and got better over time. Whenever a new guy comes into these situations they compare him to his predecessor when he was at the top of his game. Not when he was just breaking in and finding his feet. Which is unfortunate but a reality of the situation.

[Yeti]

Yeah, I remember when Jon first took over thinking "this is the guy replacing Craig Kilborn?" How little I knew 

[benjipwns]

On The Daily Show website the videos go back to when Jon took over. I was watching some of the first episodes a few months ago and a lot of them have that "funny in retrospect" aspect to them.

[Great Rumbler]

Don't worry, guys, HuffPo is stepping in to the fill the void:

[Human Snorenado]

Jason Jones is leaving, and maybe Sam Bee too.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/jason-jones-leaving-daily-show

[mormapope]

New show on TBS 

TBS is where things go to die or somehow be mass manufactured with the lowest of quality. Conan is one of the only comedians to thrive on that network it feels like.

[bork]

Samantha Bee is definitely leaving with Jones.  Jessica Williams is not going to be a host.  John Oliver just renewed his contract with HBO.

So...who's left? 

http://time.com/3720679/daily-show-jon-stewart-replacement-jason-jones-samantha-bee/

The blows keep coming for Comedy Central in the quest to find a new host for The Daily Show: Longtime show correspondents Jason Jones and Samantha Bee are headed to TBS. The network has picked up an untitled comedy series executive-produced by the married pair and starring Jones as a dad taking his family on a road trip.

The sitcom itself is less important than what it augurs for Comedy Central, which has recently seen several Daily Show stars unwilling or unable to take over the powerful nightly franchise. Jessica Williams took herself out of contention to replace Jon Stewart; Stephen Colbert left for CBS, where he’s to replace David Letterman, before Stewart announced his own departure; John Oliver’s contract at HBO was just renewed, while Larry Wilmore’s show is still establishing itself in Comedy Central’s 11:30 p.m. timeslot.

[Yeti]

Is Aasif Mandvi still around?

[Phoenix Dark]

Maybe the Daily Show is gonna get hosted by Depressing South African Guy from now on.

Mono?

[Great Rumbler]

Honestly, I feel like Last Week Tonight has surpassed the Daily Show in a lot of ways. Whether that's Stewart starting to lose his edge over time or John Oliver/Last Week Tonight just being better in general with what they're doing, I don't know.

[Human Snorenado]

I still maintain they should get someone new to host. Jon Stewart wasn't on the show when Kilborn left, after all.

[Sausage]

I'd love for Trevor Noah to be the host. He can play the straight man pretty well.

[milchs evil twin]

Honestly, I feel like Last Week Tonight has surpassed the Daily Show in a lot of ways. Whether that's Stewart starting to lose his edge over time or John Oliver/Last Week Tonight just being better in general with what they're doing, I don't know.

I dislike Last Week Tonight's outrage of the week format. They dig up these fundamentally flawed things, rage about them for a few minutes, then drop them and find something else next week.
What's the point of that? Why create awareness when you'll replace it with something new next week anyway? Feels really inconsequential to me despite the humor.
At least The Daily Show can stick to a topic for a few days in a row.

[CajoleJuice]

Honestly, I feel like Last Week Tonight has surpassed the Daily Show in a lot of ways. Whether that's Stewart starting to lose his edge over time or John Oliver/Last Week Tonight just being better in general with what they're doing, I don't know.

Once a week is much easier than 4 times a week.

[sarslip]

 

[Human Snorenado]

Politifact verified that each lie was, in fact, a lie



http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/article/2015/feb/26/50-fox-news-lies-6-seconds-daily-show/

[benjipwns]

30. Says Gov. Rick Scott's approval ratings are up.

Brian Kilmeade, April 15, 2001

Politifact discredited.

Also #1 and #39 are the same.

[Stoney Mason]

The video above is a perfect example of why I will miss him. You could pull up a couple hundred of those honestly during his tenure on the show.

There has always been a liberal debate about how best to counter the right bs machine since I was a kid. There are some who suggest we should be above it. As if addressing Fox News or the Limbaugh's of the world is a mistake in the first place. But I've always felt the approach Stewart takes is the best anti-dote of them all. Have passion and always point out the lies.

[Take My Breh Away]

Jon is now feuding with Seth Rollins from the WWE.



Yo Himu post if you're OK

[Phoenix Dark]

Trevor Noah’s Fast Track To Replace Jon Stewart On ‘The Daily Show’
http://deadline.com/2015/03/trevor-noah-jon-stewart-replace-daily-show-frontrunner-video-1201400294/

Don't think I've ever seen his segments on the show but #BlackExcellence

[Phoenix Dark]

Just watched one of his segments and I wasn't impressed. I've seen his stand up which is good but hosting a satire show is different. Plus isn't he new to the show compared to most of the other cast members? Seems rather abrupt. I wonder if they have stand up experience like he does though.

I do believe Stewart's comedy chops are severely overrated but overall he was a good host. The Indian guy seems like the best choice to replace him.

[benjipwns]

Looks like that bloc isn't going to be as big much longer. The Nightly Show is getting like a third of the ratings Colbert got IIRC, even its debut episode didn't get close to Colbert's average.

According to one industry source, Comedy Central wanted to have a host who was not another white guy.

I wonder what clout the show is going to have against the network now, Stewart's longevity and position allowed him a ton of freedom and even protected Colbert initially.

Those videos on the deadline article don't exactly "sell" the guy. Ironically, Larry Wilmore seems like he would have been a better replacement at this point.

I wonder why Aasif Mandvi is being passed over for a new guy.

Also lol at Deadline comments:

He’s cute but I have no sense of what he’s about. It’s been too soon since they hired him. Not that it makes any difference, I suppose. Just hire Rachel Maddow, if they can wrest her from MSNBC, which I doubt.

Rachel Maddow would be another excellent choice. She’s got deep experience in the political arena and she is also very funny while still able to make a point.
She’s one of very few women journalists out there right now who I think could make a serious go at the TDS desk and pull it off.
I think Comedy Central should give her a week and see how she does.

Fugelsang would be a fantastic choice. Or what about Kevin Pereira, who worked with Chris Hardwick and co-hosted G4’s Attack of the Show?

Don’t know what it is with these NETWORKS in the USA getting their talent from other countries.
I’m feeling more and more like I’m living in a foreign country. CNN puts on Limmies telling us how our elections are going in our own country!

Hoping for a funny female as there are zero headlining a show like this. Tired of the excuses and think it will expand the audience and the conversation. I don’t expect it out of the Daily show as Jon Stewarts blind spot has always been and remains sexism. Even Hollywood is catching on to the female audience now, come on Daily Show.

Tina Fey, Rachel Maddow, Jessica Williams should be considered for starters.

They should hire Bill Schulz and TV's Andy Levy.

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[I'm a Puppy!]

America ain't ready for an Indian guy to have his own show. Maybe in another decade or two.

Aziz Ansari set you guys back several decades.

[Phoenix Dark]

All this indenty politics demanding lol. The host must be a woman! No it has to be a minority! Still I'd pick the Indian dude lol. He's funny, seems like he can host, isn't annoying, etc.

Maddow though? Good lord no. She's not bad at what she does but I can only take so much hand wringing over the Koch Brothers, Chris Christie, and whatever else she's complaining about while trying to seem hilariously outraged.

[Phoenix Dark]

Recently, no one has set Indians back more than Dinesh D'Souza.

[benjipwns]

America ain't ready for an Indian guy to have his own show. Maybe in another decade or two.

You're just upset because MSNBC cancelled your show.

entertaining  in random one on ones just being himself like when he was in Mind of a Chef.

Are we like the four people on earth who watched that?

Keep him in shows, keep him away from the microphone and having to write for himself.

How dare you, Human Giant was a human achievement.

Maddow though? Good lord no. She's not bad at what she does but I can only take so much hand wringing over the Koch Brothers, Chris Christie, and whatever else she's complaining about while trying to seem hilariously outraged.

I don't even understand why a fan of hers would want her to go from a bigger stage (however large MSNBC is...its a bigger stage among politicos and media dopes) and a hour to a half hour where she has to try and pull off comedy segments that generally go well beyond just Republican/Fox News mocking. It seems like such a show would immediately become what conservatives accuse the Daily Show of being.

[Human Snorenado]

I became a much more bearable human being when I stopped watching MSNBC 4-5 years ago.

[benjipwns]

I find most of MSNBC to actually be worse than Fox in terms of how they do discussions, Fox at least has their tokens. MSNBC is more like "let's race to see who can agree with each other the most." Though it's never been as bad at that as CurrentTV's programming was. Hell, Democracy Now! is better at it.

Though I mostly only watch Al because he can be amazing and has like a 25% chance of his guests looking confused at his "last word" of a segment especially if the feed accidentally cuts back to them.

Chris Hayes can be fun in a "how much of a know-it-all douchebag can I be and lord it over my guests by responding to them about studies I can cite but nobody here knows if they even exist" way. Also he posted this: https://vine.co/v/O32Q11B5Irg I assume in response to a challenge to prove his whiteness.

[Sausage]

Aziz Ansari set you guys back several decades.

Not really. I don't care overly for Aziz but he's hardly the Indian Carlos Mencia so to speak.

At least Russell Peters isn't super mainstream.

[benjipwns]

Speaking of Russell's, how do I get "The Daily Show with Russell Brand" rumor circulating in the trades.

[Phoenix Dark]

I can't help but think back to Fox News during the Bush years. Their programming was a collection of smug pats on the back, spotlights on liberals being weak losers, and various point-and-laugh segments about liberals losing. Very effective bullying/trolling. Whereas MSNBC doesn't know how to operate while their preferred party is in power. They do some smug pats on the back but only by citing studies and recently released reports and zzzz.

Also they love wallowing in helplessness. The Koch Brothers have so much money and have bought everything there's nothing we can do but listen to this former congressman tell us more about it. Weak shit.

Last time I checked Maddow her show was full of this stuff. Pay close attention because this is important, Willy went to middle school with Joe in 1976. Twenty years later Willy gave Joe a no bid contract to build this thing. Now Willy is president of God knows what and guess which state he decided to move his business to? I'll give you a few seconds to guess. Ok now: Joe's state. Joining me now is some guy who agrees that this is some crazy shit.

[Sausage]

At least Russell Peters isn't super mainstream.

He has specials on Netflix doe

But even he's not a Carlos Mencia / Kevin Hart level garbageman. Predictable, embarrassing and a hack that sort of reminds you of your corny cousins from Ontario but doesn't ever reach that sublime tier of Dane Cookesque obnoxiousness.

Maybe he just reaches that level personally from me, because of how many people have suggested/forced me to watch his some of his bits. Dude literally has one joke and 90% of the time it's not funny

[benjipwns]

Whereas MSNBC doesn't know how to operate while their preferred party is in power. They do some smug pats on the back but only by citing studies and recently released reports and zzzz.

Also they love wallowing in helplessness.

James Taranto of the WSJ has this theory, premised on a dominantly Democratic media, that because Democrats are so rarely challenged (and often even supported in their narratives) to the extent that Republicans are by the media that this leads to Democrats mostly not knowing how to react to certain situations. Especially when the media does turn against them.

The "messaging is the only problem" refrain being the result of this blind spot. MSNBC often degraded into this same thing 2009-2014 where they're spending all their time attacking the party completely or mostly out of power and refusing to acknowledge much of any criticism of the Obama Administration/Democrats or decrying "fake scandals" when in cases like Fast and Furious there actually is some entirely stupid government policy involved in that outside of GOP conspiracy theories.

Hell, they even run protection for the party/administration on attacks from the "left" the opposite of which Fox actually gives a lot of air time to.

[benjipwns]

Couldn't be assed to find a weekly average, this is for last Thursday:

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Total Day P2+ (000s) 25-54 (000s) 35-64 (000s)
FOXN 1,279 233 472
CNN 626 181 304
MSNBC 363 65 141
CNBC 167 67 89
FBN 54 9 21
HLN 256 107 131

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Net 5PM P2+ (000s) 25-54 (000s) 35-64 (000s)
FOXN FIVE, THE 2,162 293 644
CNN Situation Room 942 231 488
MSNB Ed Show 506 62 166
CNBC FAST MONEY 130 45 85
HLN FORENSIC FILES 105 34 46

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Net 6PM P2+ (000s) 25-54 (000s) 35-64 (000s)
FOXN SPECIAL RPT 2,160 340 720
CNN Situation Room 786 244 417
MSNB POLITICS NATION 513 68 171
CNBC Mad Money 187 77 117
HLN FORENSIC FILES 84 27 43

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Net 7PM P2+ (000s) 25-54 (000s) 35-64 (000s)
FOXN ON THE RECORD 1,998 361 687
CNN ERIN BURNETT 773 270 393
MSNB Hardball 754 112 267
CNBC AMERICAN GREED 160 72 98
HLN FORENSIC FILES 172 42 70

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Net 8PM P2+ (000s) 25-54 (000s) 35-64 (000s)
FOXN THE OREILLY FACTOR 2,389 405 849
CNN Anderson Cooper 360 794 271 415
MSNB ALL IN W/ CHRIS HAYES 573 85 211
CNBC Shark Tank 513 268 228
HLN Nancy Grace 274 85 141

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Net 9PM P2+ (000s) 25-54 (000s) 35-64 (000s)
FOXN KELLY FILE, THE 2,166 431 842
CNN Anderson Cooper 360 656 197 291
MSNB Rachel Maddow Show 765 120 311
CNBC AMERICAN GREED 329 167 179
HLN Dr. Drew ON CALL 264 58 111

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Net 10PM P2+ (000s) 25-54 (000s) 35-64 (000s)
FOXN Hannity 1,381 331 604
CNN CNN TONIGHT 692 209 328
MSNB Last Word 540 72 176
CNBC AMERICAN GREED 271 141 138
HLN FORENSIC FILES 457 179 197

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Net 11PM P2+ (000s) 25-54 (000s) 35-64 (000s)
FOXN THE OREILLY FACTOR 954 248 420
CNN CNN TONIGHT 423 154 251
MSNB ALL IN W/ CHRIS HAYES 224 46 98
CNBC AMERICAN GREED 196 104 103
HLN FORENSIC FILES 577 209 287

P2+ = viewers over the age of 2

(25-54) = Adults 25-54 viewing

(35-64) = Adults 35-64 viewing

Guess we aren't allowed to know what viewers 2 and under prefer.

[benjipwns]

Apparently last week was the first time in years that Maddow dropped under 100,000 in the 25-54 bracket.

Also I love how dominant Forensic Files is 10PM and after and how well it does vs. CNBC and HLN's other shows in general when it hasn't had a new episode made since 2011. 

EDIT: Further side note, the highest rated non-basketball program on Cable last Thursday were the two Family Guy re-runs at 11 and 11:30 on Adult Swim: 2,403 and 2,483 respectively. Daily Show did 1,239. My Big Fat American Gypsy did 957.

[Great Rumbler]

Trevor Noah has been selected to become the next host of the Emmy® and Peabody® Award-winning The Daily Show.

Noah joined The Daily Show in 2014 as a contributor. He made his U.S. television debut in 2012 on The Tonight Show with Jay Leno and has also appeared on Late Show with David Letterman, becoming the first South African stand-up comedian to appear on either late night show. Noah has hosted numerous television shows including his own late night talk show in his native country, Tonight with Trevor Noah.

He was featured on the October 2014 cover of GQ South Africa and has been profiled in Rolling Stone, Newsweek and The Wall Street Journal, and by CNN and NPR’s Talk of the Nation, among others. He continues to tour all over the world and has performed in front of sold out crowds at the Hammersmith Apollo in London and the Sydney Opera House in Australia.

[Dickie Dee]

He's been pretty good, but not really my dream pick. Probably one of the better choices considering the timing of it all.

Still wish they went with Jason Jones and Samantha Bee co-hosting. 

[Phoenix Dark]

Lord knows Jon Stewart never told race jokes!

[Human Snorenado]

I swear, some people need a "Trigger Warning: EVERYTHING" t-shirt.

http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2015/04/01/396782993/patton-oswalt-tweets-in-defense-of-comedy-and-trevor-noah

[Steve Contra]

Man, this shit is a goldmine for viral news sites.  Take a few tweets from Noah, find someone, anyone mad, and get the loudmouthed white guy brigade to come out in force and you've got a recipe for a lot of clicks.  Get played by Buzzfeed brehs.

[Phoenix Dark]

Seems like this originally started with conservative hack sites combing for tweets, then Buzzfeed jumped on board. Which sparked the outrage brigade on tumblr and think pieces from liberal sites. Plus conservatives wringing their hands over TEH DOUBLE STANDARD.

fuck em all

[Great Rumbler]

He's a comedian. Comedian's got a little bit more leeway to say things that other people don't. Now, if he was a politician or some prominent business leader, that would be a somewhat different issue, but dragging up a couple of dud jokes out of 9,000+ tweets over the course of 5 years and trying to use that to somehow make him out to be a racist jerk is just ridiculous. This is nothing at all like Michael Richard's horrible rant from a few years back, not even close.

[Phoenix Dark]

Plus Richard's rant wasn't even comedy, it was a comedian bombing and attacking a heckler. And by "attack" I don't mean like Bill Burr annihilating Philadelphia fans. It shouldn't take a genius to recognize what Richards did was wrong.

Someone on GAF pointed out that pre-internet, comedians would go to dive bars to try out new or controversial bits. If it didn't work they'd scrap it and no one would know shit. Now twitter and other mediums lead to bad jokes never disappearing.

[brawndolicious]

Patton Oswalt 

Plus Richard's rant wasn't even comedy, it was a comedian bombing and attacking a heckler. And by "attack" I don't mean like Bill Burr annihilating Philadelphia fans. It shouldn't take a genius to recognize what Richards did was wrong.

Someone on GAF pointed out that pre-internet, comedians would go to dive bars to try out new or controversial bits. If it didn't work they'd scrap it and no one would know shit. Now twitter and other mediums lead to bad jokes never disappearing.

Yeah usually just jokes that happen to be a more sad than funny observation of their life. It really sucks when their entire set is boring and then they go into this thing about how they're only going after ugly chicks now or don't talk to their parents. You've never been to an open mic night?

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

Let's not pretend that Buzzfeed, Gawker, or Tumblr is worth a shit.  Those shitshows only care about clicks.

The biggest issue the show will face is if ratings drop.  If they drop like The Nightly Show has been dropping, Comedy Central will just scrap both shows for reruns of South Park.  You slapnuts better be tuning in.

[Phoenix Dark]

Let's not pretend that Buzzfeed, Gawker, or Tumblr is worth a shit.  Those shitshows only care about clicks.

The biggest issue the show will face is if ratings drop.  If they drop like The Nightly Show has been dropping, Comedy Central will just scrap both shows for reruns of South Park.  You slapnuts better be tuning in.

I haven't watched the Nightly Show (because I barely watch non-sports television) but it's been interesting seeing Colbert/Daily Show stans not even give the man a chance. No host comes out the gate firing on all cylinders, it takes awhile to get used to hosting shit. Yet GAFers are more than willing to not even watch Noah's show lmao...

TBH I don't think he'll be the host in 4-5 years. The dude's rise seems so meteoric that I'd imagine he'll be winning Oscars for dramatic roles in 5 years, or be president of the United States.

[nudemacusers]

yeah he basically went from nobody to daily show host in what... 2 years? I wonder what his 5 year vision is for his career.


edit: the nightly show is pretty good, just not very essential in the grand scheme. I do like the roundtable discussion vs the standard non-interview that you get from colbert/stewart.

[Steve Contra]

By the way do real people watch and enjoy Bill Maher?