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Re: Bloodborne
« Reply #120 on: April 01, 2015, 02:30:04 AM »
Regarding Father Gascoigne:

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Apparently there's an item called "Tiny Music Box" I've seen a Jeff Green use that stuns him a bit? But it seems he transforms a lot quicker when it's being used. When I fight him doesn't transform until pretty close to already being dead.
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Re: Bloodborne
« Reply #121 on: April 01, 2015, 02:36:29 AM »
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Re: Bloodborne
« Reply #122 on: April 01, 2015, 03:50:31 AM »
Maybe tell us which boss it is yo

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Re: Bloodborne
« Reply #123 on: April 01, 2015, 04:29:43 AM »
I edited his name in (Paarl) since I don't think people consider names spoilers. It's just a quick video showing a goofy hitbox. Game's awesome so far, only thing that sucks are the load times.
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Re: Bloodborne
« Reply #124 on: April 01, 2015, 07:34:10 AM »
Oh Paarl, then I can watch :) I stumbled on him by accident and he pretty much killed me without me getting in a hit. Saving him for later.

Short loadtimes would make this game insane, like I wouldn't be able to put it down.

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« Reply #125 on: April 01, 2015, 11:20:26 AM »
I edited his name in (Paarl) since I don't think people consider names spoilers. It's just a quick video showing a goofy hitbox. Game's awesome so far, only thing that sucks are the load times.

yeah, I noticed that in his fight and one move of another boss.  but so far (I think I'm nearing the end) I think Paarl is the worst boss of the game, even without the weird hitbox.  he's a visual mess and when you're up close it's difficult to know what side is where.

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« Reply #126 on: April 01, 2015, 01:14:47 PM »
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 Bullet deflections in PVP. :gladbron

duuuude

and i thought the slow bullets were just because they're old timey guns

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Re: Bloodborne
« Reply #127 on: April 01, 2015, 02:08:34 PM »
Lost in the
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Re: Bloodborne
« Reply #128 on: April 01, 2015, 02:34:03 PM »
That forest is a complete clusterfuck.  It just keeps going and going and going.  Thankfully I killed those three guys at the end on my first try because otherwise if I had to make that long ass treck again after dying (if there's a shortcut I didn't find one....unless it's the one midway through) I would've stopped for awhile and done something else.  I didn't like that part at all.
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Re: Bloodborne
« Reply #129 on: April 01, 2015, 02:38:28 PM »
Oh btw, thanks guys.  Found Old Yharnam (not sure if that's how it's spelled) along with the gatling hunter and the blood starved beast shortly after your posts.  I thought I lost the hunter badge after knocking what's his name off the tower but thankfully it showed up again after I went back up there later.  Not that I'd use that rifle spear after finding Ludwig's sword.  That thing rocks.
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Re: Bloodborne
« Reply #130 on: April 01, 2015, 02:43:19 PM »
if you kill anything by falling death, leave and come back and the item will be there

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Re: Bloodborne
« Reply #131 on: April 01, 2015, 02:59:43 PM »
Hsmp am I going in the right direction at least if I encountered those
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« Reply #132 on: April 01, 2015, 03:41:08 PM »
Hsmp am I going in the right direction at least if I encountered those
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Honestly, that place is seemingly so huge that I'm not sure.  I know if you start coming across a bunch of snakes and guys with snakes springing from their heads you're getting closer to the end....or at least the end that I came to.  And judging by the next area, I'm not even sure if I'm supposed to be there now or not because I can't figure out a way into the building.  Maybe I'm not even supposed to enter it.

This fucking game lol
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Re: Bloodborne
« Reply #133 on: April 01, 2015, 10:41:13 PM »
Iconoclast, what are you thoughts on the game so far?
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« Reply #134 on: April 02, 2015, 12:30:16 AM »
Intentionally spoiled the rest of the game for myself because I don't know when I'll actually be able to play it again but...

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Those Lovecraftian bosses near and at the end. :whoo
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« Reply #135 on: April 02, 2015, 12:39:32 AM »
I'm not sure how far in I am (at least half way), and I'm sure I've missed a bunch of optional/hidden stuff, but I have two major problems with the game so far: First would be would be the lack of loot. I think every enemy either drops a blood vial (the healing item), bullets, shards, or a gem (+stats for your weapon sockets), and some special enemies drop runes. That's it. Armor, and especially new weapons, are fairly rare - much more so than in any of the other games. That's a big step back imo, since I always enjoyed finding new equipment.

The other problem I have is the way healing is set up, and that ties together with the loot. Blood vials are basically your Estus Flask, except you always spawn with 20 of them as long you have some stashed away in the bank. If you run out, you'll have to buy some from the shop or go farming (which shouldn't be too bad since they're common enough). My inventory has been maxed out for a while, though, so half the time when I loot an enemy, a message pops up telling me that my inventory is full. That's kinda annoying on its own, but it also means you can heal often and not really have to worry about it. I thought Dark Souls 2's healing system was pretty much perfect, so this is another step back.

I also think there's going to be a lack of build variety since they simplified a few things (eg. no rings or equip burden) and there's less equipment to choose from, but everything else has been great. Combat is faster and more satisfying than ever (I love the gun off-hand especially), backstabs were nerfed again, the boss fights are great, and the level design has been top notch. With Dark Souls 2, From really dropped the ball when it came to creating an interesting world through the art, atmosphere, and interconnected level design, but they nailed it in Bloodborne imo.

I'm mostly just pointing out the stuff that I don't like, so I don't want to sound like I'm down on the game or anything. There's a good chance it'll be my GOTY.
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Re: Bloodborne
« Reply #136 on: April 02, 2015, 04:08:34 AM »
Jesus hsmp you killed those guys on the first go?

I most 50k echoes there :(

On my 5th attempt now

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« Reply #137 on: April 02, 2015, 04:55:24 AM »
I popped all my madman skulls and am now at 45 insight. The game is so fucking stressful now hahaha.
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Re: Bloodborne
« Reply #138 on: April 02, 2015, 05:06:41 AM »
What does insight change? Im at 29.

Beat the 3 guys super easy now by using terrain as a cover.

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« Reply #139 on: April 02, 2015, 05:09:08 AM »
Insight gives enemies new moves and makes them more aggressive. I went from 23 to 45 instantly and the difference was very apparent.
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Re: Bloodborne
« Reply #140 on: April 02, 2015, 10:25:26 AM »
So I should spend my insight to make the game easier, I see

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Re: Bloodborne
« Reply #141 on: April 02, 2015, 10:44:19 AM »
beat second boss  :o , did not beat first boss  :-\

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« Reply #142 on: April 02, 2015, 11:14:04 AM »
Jesus hsmp you killed those guys on the first go?

I most 50k echoes there :(

On my 5th attempt now

Yeah but I kind of cheesed it.  Almost at the very beginning of the fight, the guy with the flame sword got hung up on some geometry in the middle of the graveyard so I just had to worry about the other two.  Once I downed the magic user it was pretty straight forward.  :american

And I'm not sure what I did to open the door but now I'm able to enter the building in the area right after that.  Holy crap did I ever get my ass handed to me by the guy living inside.   That was over ridiculously fast.  I'm not even sure what happened exactly.  I guess I was just so excited to finally see that door open I wasn't even paying attention to the death coming my way.  So many souls lost.....

I gave that up and then checked out that area to the right of the Grand Cathedral again.  I was going through my inventory looking at my items and I remembered I recieved a special stone from someone after I knocked on his door and in the item description it told me to go round circle before the door to the right of the Grand Cathedral so that's where I went.  Has anyone else done this yet?  I don't want to spoil anything here but I just want to say - fuck that shit.  I think I found my least favorite part in the game.  I'll probably be in the minority but I was running out of supplies with no way to really replenish them..... I got through that by the skin of my teeth.  I was literally down to zero health potions, no antidotes, and a sliver of health.  If I would've died again I would've been beyond screwed.
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Re: Bloodborne
« Reply #143 on: April 02, 2015, 12:13:50 PM »
Cheesing is a legit tactic in souls games :)

You mean the white hunter in Byrgenwerth? He killed me a fee times before I discovered he is piss easy if you keep parrying him with the gun and then doing a visceral attack.

I'm at the next boss now btw,
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Re: Bloodborne
« Reply #144 on: April 02, 2015, 12:16:38 PM »
If there is one thing Id like is a bit more story exposition

I've got the gun parry down against most enemies except the werewolves. I keep trying and failing against them. Probably need to go on youtube and see what frame of their attack you're supposed to do it on.

The parry is letting me pretty much one-shot trolls and hunchbacks at this point. For the most part it's way easier than in Dark Souls. In that game I couldn't reliably parry until the Silver Knights in Anor Londo forced me to spend an hour or so practicing it. In this game I got the timing down against most enemies within a couple of tries.

One possibility is that the enemies here have more predictable attack patterns. In Dark Souls, I remember a lot of the enemies would kind of twitch around like meth addicts and then lurch at you unpredictably, whereas that doesn't seem to happen here.

No point in parrying them, just dodge and slap!

Re: Bloodborne
« Reply #145 on: April 02, 2015, 12:21:17 PM »
In the wake of my "just bought a PS4!!" excitement, I want to buy Bloodborne but I'm thinking I should hold off until there's a sale. This is the kind of game I love to play but normally never get through the whole thing.
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Re: Bloodborne
« Reply #146 on: April 02, 2015, 12:55:52 PM »
Cheesing is a legit tactic in souls games :)

You mean the white hunter in Byrgenwerth? He killed me a fee times before I discovered he is piss easy if you keep parrying him with the gun and then doing a visceral attack.

I'm at the next boss now btw,
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who is like 2 min after you beat that hunter
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Those enemies in this area are gross!

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That must be him.  I was just looking around the place and then he came running down the staircase and cast a spell that killed me instantly.  I didn't even have a chance to get my bearings and line up anything.  I had about 15k souls on me but I just left them there and went off to check out the other side of the Cathedral.  And now that that's done (*grumble*) I'm thinking about going back to the Unseen Village and root around there for awhile before I go back to Byrgenwerth.

I really feel directionless in this game.... I'm not sure where I need to go or what I'm even doing.  Seems kind of confusing.
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Re: Bloodborne
« Reply #147 on: April 02, 2015, 01:40:24 PM »
I'm pretty sure I reached the end and held off to clean up before moving onto new game+ but a couple things without having to say "so far" anymore.  World layout is consistently good throughout the entire game, no sharp drop offs like Dark Souls.  Game is considerably easier than Demon's Souls or Dark Souls for me.  Also thought Dark Souls was easier than Demon's, so it could be build up experiencing helping me.  my main playstyles in those games were the same as what bloodborne is pushing, aggressive and nimble; no jarring shift from shields, heavy armor, and magic.  I don't think it'd be easier for everyone.  more of an observation than a complaint.

I'll mess with chalice dungeons and wait for the load time patch to do new game plus proper.

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Re: Bloodborne
« Reply #148 on: April 02, 2015, 02:23:43 PM »
I dont know if its easier (ive only finished DeS) but its less obtuse and designed better.

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« Reply #149 on: April 02, 2015, 02:52:29 PM »
I've got the gun parry down against most enemies except the werewolves. I keep trying and failing against them. Probably need to go on youtube and see what frame of their attack you're supposed to do it on.

The parry is letting me pretty much one-shot trolls and hunchbacks at this point. For the most part it's way easier than in Dark Souls. In that game I couldn't reliably parry until the Silver Knights in Anor Londo forced me to spend an hour or so practicing it. In this game I got the timing down against most enemies within a couple of tries.

One possibility is that the enemies here have more predictable attack patterns. In Dark Souls, I remember a lot of the enemies would kind of twitch around like meth addicts and then lurch at you unpredictably, whereas that doesn't seem to happen here.

when they do that slower leap move.  they prepare to leap and as soon as they do, shoot

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Re: Bloodborne
« Reply #150 on: April 02, 2015, 04:40:24 PM »
Where was this sharp analysis when you thought batman and avatar deserved oscars

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Re: Bloodborne
« Reply #151 on: April 02, 2015, 05:27:26 PM »
Man. The jump in difficulty from Depth 2 to Depth 3 in the Chalice dungeons is insane.
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« Reply #152 on: April 02, 2015, 05:58:12 PM »
He's pretty easy to get to, and once you do a few bullets will knock him off the roof. He doesn't come even remotely close to Blighttown.
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« Reply #153 on: April 02, 2015, 06:21:34 PM »
yeah, just keep running to get past him.  don't bother engaging enemies, only slow down to regain stamina.

most annoying part is how long loading is in that area, longest of the game at close to a minute. 

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Re: Bloodborne
« Reply #154 on: April 02, 2015, 06:33:22 PM »
Jesus H Christ

Having trouble with Rom, so decided to go to the other end like HSMP did. Fuuuuuuuuuu what a nightmare that zone.
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Someone invaded my game, but I killed them, then the level just got brutal as I had to vials and I lost 30k.

Maybe I should offload more insight to beat rom, got him down to 25%. Those adds can one shot me which sucks.
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Re: Bloodborne
« Reply #155 on: April 02, 2015, 06:41:44 PM »
Im going to bed, you won tonight Bloodborne

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Re: Bloodborne
« Reply #156 on: April 02, 2015, 07:04:30 PM »
Roms the spider right? Offload a couple insight and buy some fire paper. Fire chews him up.
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Re: Bloodborne
« Reply #157 on: April 02, 2015, 09:25:40 PM »
Took the plunge and ordered Bloodborne with some Amazon credit.
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Re: Bloodborne
« Reply #158 on: April 03, 2015, 03:28:55 AM »
Do you have poison res gear?

Roms the spider right? Offload a couple insight and buy some fire paper. Fire chews him up.

I already bought the whole ashen set and still have like 30, dunno what to get Now.

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Re: Bloodborne
« Reply #159 on: April 03, 2015, 03:51:45 AM »
Oh I meant use your insight to buy some fire paper. Although maybe you don't have that option? I can, but I don't have the vaguest clue how I unlocked it.
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Re: Bloodborne
« Reply #160 on: April 03, 2015, 04:25:37 PM »
Killed that fucker!

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Re: Bloodborne
« Reply #161 on: April 03, 2015, 07:41:11 PM »
http://www.reddit.com/r/bloodborne/comments/31bogg/how_to_active_bloodborne_easy_mode/

Apparently there's a memory leak that reduces the amount of moves a boss can use. Lol From.
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Re: Bloodborne
« Reply #162 on: April 03, 2015, 10:53:17 PM »
I don't think I have the patience for this kind of game anymore.
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Re: Bloodborne
« Reply #163 on: April 04, 2015, 01:35:27 AM »
Killed that fucker!

Nice! That boss was a bit annoying since a lot of it came down to good luck on the way the mini spiders grouped up.
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Re: Bloodborne
« Reply #164 on: April 04, 2015, 01:36:54 AM »
Oh also apparently Insight doesn't influence difficulty. Apparently people have done tests to disconfirm this. I bought into it because I popped all those knowledge thangs before going into a 3 tier chalice dungeon for the first time.
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Re: Bloodborne
« Reply #165 on: April 04, 2015, 03:35:41 PM »

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« Reply #166 on: April 04, 2015, 04:57:14 PM »
Oh also apparently Insight doesn't influence difficulty. Apparently people have done tests to disconfirm this. I bought into it because I popped all those knowledge thangs before going into a 3 tier chalice dungeon for the first time.

Well that was a great myth while it lasted

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Re: Bloodborne
« Reply #167 on: April 04, 2015, 05:20:35 PM »
Just because a boss is difficult doesn't mean it's broken. I found her quite fair.
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Re: Bloodborne
« Reply #168 on: April 04, 2015, 05:22:26 PM »
Where is everyone PVPing in this game? I can't find anyone to fight anywhere.
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Re: Bloodborne
« Reply #169 on: April 04, 2015, 05:43:00 PM »
Where is everyone PVPing in this game? I can't find anyone to fight anywhere.

wait times are long everywhere but best bets are
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Nightmare Frontier and Mergo's Loft because of the bell maiden.  granted it's more invasion than PVP and you get instances where you follow a guy waiting for him to notice you.
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other areas are maybe 10 minutes of running around, connect, and end up against two guys guzzling vials while it's lagging out  :-\  the couple legit pvp matches are awesome but hopefully a patch makes it easier.

I ended up finishing it last night and started chalice dungeons.  really get the sense I should have done these during the my first playthrough.  I'm waiting for materials to use my other chalices but the first two were killing enemies with one hit in my sword's weaker mode.

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Re: Bloodborne
« Reply #170 on: April 04, 2015, 06:00:28 PM »
Where is everyone PVPing in this game? I can't find anyone to fight anywhere.

wait times are long everywhere but best bets are
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Nightmare Frontier and Mergo's Loft because of the bell maiden.  granted it's more invasion than PVP and you get instances where you follow a guy waiting for him to notice you.
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other areas are maybe 10 minutes of running around, connect, and end up against two guys guzzling vials while it's lagging out  :-\  the couple legit pvp matches are awesome but hopefully a patch makes it easier.

I ended up finishing it last night and started chalice dungeons.  really get the sense I should have done these during the my first playthrough.  I'm waiting for materials to use my other chalices but the first two were killing enemies with one hit in my sword's weaker mode.

I spent like 30 minutes waiting around NF with no bites. I'm SL 73 right now. Too low for the PVP crowd still maybe?
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Re: Bloodborne
« Reply #171 on: April 04, 2015, 06:18:12 PM »
I spent like 30 minutes waiting around NF with no bites. I'm SL 73 right now. Too low for the PVP crowd still maybe?

Did you switch from local to worldwide?

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Re: Bloodborne
« Reply #172 on: April 04, 2015, 06:19:10 PM »
Yessir
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Re: Bloodborne
« Reply #173 on: April 04, 2015, 06:25:29 PM »
No idea, then.  I was around that when I started ringing the bell it hasn't changed since reaching the high 80-90 range.

I read people are also having connection issues with co-op.  for me that's almost instant, so maybe I've been lucky.

speaking of co-op, last night I got called to fight an optional boss and was tearing him down while this guy hung back.  he jumped in near the end to get the killing blow and the boss wrecked him in two hits.

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Re: Bloodborne
« Reply #174 on: April 04, 2015, 08:14:22 PM »
Bought the Kirkhammer and FUCKED FATHER G UP
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Re: Bloodborne
« Reply #175 on: April 04, 2015, 08:26:20 PM »
Beat Vicar Amelia first try. Really easy.

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Re: Bloodborne
« Reply #176 on: April 04, 2015, 09:59:54 PM »
Vicar Amelia was the hardest boss for me, or tied including an optional boss.

for some of the big monster bosses I remap Circle to L1 and never lock on.

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Re: Bloodborne
« Reply #177 on: April 05, 2015, 01:27:36 AM »
I was stuck on Amelia in NG+ for 2~ hours this morning. It's hard to safely punish some of her attacks with the Rifle Spear's charge attack (since everything else I have does pitiful damage), and I don't know how to stop her heal. I'm starting to think I should just use the 400k souls I'm sitting on and level up.
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Re: Bloodborne
« Reply #178 on: April 05, 2015, 02:01:11 AM »
Made it up to the Bloodhungry Beast. :stahp
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Re: Bloodborne
« Reply #179 on: April 05, 2015, 02:08:04 AM »
Aight, don't own the game so I have questions for Souls veterans:

How varied can a character build be?
In general, whats the best build when it comes to attributes?
What's the most OP weapon thus far when fully upgraded?
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