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what are your ardently held contraversial gaming opinions
« on: March 23, 2015, 11:39:43 PM »
- The dark souls series isn't all that great. Making a game difficult by just making it obtuse doesn't make it great. Dragon's Dogma was better in nearly every way, it just doesn't enjoy the same amount of fedora hype.
- AAA gaming is all garbage.
- To a certain extent I believe that modern console games are generally crap because most developers don't know how to leverage everything. What I mean is that before, you were limited by hardware so developers had to get creative. That cut out a lot of excess crap and bad ideas because they simply couldn't put everything in. Now that they can they're like George Lucas with a blue screen and huge budget. Very few developers actually know how to make something from everything. I think that Bethseda is one of the best. Skyrim is a good example of having everything but not letting it make your game stupid
- Nintendo makes very very good games. If you can't enjoy some of them chances are you have little to no soul.
- Nintendo was actually wise in not putting too much investment in the current generation. As to whether that was intentional or a happy accident is up for debate.
- I see little point in this current console generation. It's like its just waiting to die and be replaced by PCs
- Toilet gaming is terrible. TERRIBLE.
- The thing that made jRPGs fun wasn't that they were epic. It's that they were a little epic, with a lot of whimsy. That's why jrpgs died. They took away the humor and we got FFXIII.
- Final Fantasy X -2 was the last good non-MMO final fantasy game released
- Final Fantasy XV and its offshoots will be the last in the Final fantasy series.
- 80% of indie games (possibly more) are literally not worth the time it takes to download them. But a very small few are really incredible.
- Videogames are largely not statements about society, gender roles, racism, sociopolitical pressures. They're games. Trying to find meaning in most of them is like looking in toast for images of Jesus.
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Re: what are your ardently held contraversial gaming opinions
« Reply #1 on: March 23, 2015, 11:50:23 PM »
The Gamecube controller is one of the best controllers out there, love smacking that huge A button.

Final Fantasy hasn't been great since FFX-2 (never played the MMOs).

Halo as a multiplayer shooter is complete garbage.

Chrono Trigger is overrated as fuck, great soundtrack though.

STALKER is the best horror game of all time.
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Re: what are your ardently held contraversial gaming opinions
« Reply #2 on: March 24, 2015, 12:03:00 AM »
Mmorpgs aren't games
Nintendo has been shit for about 15 years now
Most gaming in general has been shit for about the last 7-8 years
PC/mobile gaming is where it's at nowadays

Oh wait, sorry. Those are facts.
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« Reply #3 on: March 24, 2015, 12:06:16 AM »
Come on man, how can you hate Super Mario Galaxy?
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« Reply #4 on: March 24, 2015, 12:13:09 AM »
Windwaker and Twilight Princess are the best 3D Zelda games. I say this as someone who got Ocarina of Time and Majora's Mask right when they were released.

Dragon Age is complete ass compared to Dragon's Dogma and Dark Souls when it comes to storytelling and lore.

Timesplitters 2 is complete ass.


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« Reply #5 on: March 24, 2015, 12:17:14 AM »
Video games are overall detrimental to human beings.


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« Reply #6 on: March 24, 2015, 12:20:16 AM »
Come on man, how can you hate Super Mario Galaxy?

SMG = The Name of the Rose in this Trainspotting story

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« Reply #7 on: March 24, 2015, 12:28:28 AM »
Animal Crossing is really fun and rewarding.

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« Reply #8 on: March 24, 2015, 12:29:29 AM »
Windwaker and Twilight Princess are the best 3D Zelda games. I say this as someone who got Ocarina of Time and Majora's Mask right when they were released.

Twilight Princess is so underrated. Needs an HDmake badly. :heart

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« Reply #9 on: March 24, 2015, 12:38:44 AM »
Kid Icarus isn't nearly as hard as its reputation.

Castlevania lives up to its reputation as far as difficulty goes, but only really for some of the boss fights.

I don't understand toilet gaming. My digestive track is too healthy to be sitting on the pot for more than 5 minutes at a time.

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« Reply #10 on: March 24, 2015, 12:59:02 AM »
Classic Sonic as a series is average at best compared to classic Mario games. Sonic as a mascot and character is lame as fuck.

The N64 is Nintendo's worst home console, the Gamecube is their best.

Half Life 2 wasn't that good as a game. The Source engine was/is way more valuable.

Rainbow Six Vegas is the best multiplayer shooter last gen.


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« Reply #11 on: March 24, 2015, 01:09:10 AM »
Classic Sonic as a series is average at best compared to classic Mario games. Sonic as a mascot and character is lame as fuck.

The N64 is Nintendo's worst home console, the Gamecube is their best.

Half Life 2 wasn't that good as a game. The Source engine was/is way more valuable.

Rainbow Six Vegas is the best multiplayer shooter last gen.
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« Reply #12 on: March 24, 2015, 01:13:20 AM »
AAA gaming + consoles will implode on itself by 2020 and we'll witness the fanboy fallout firsthand.

Half-Life 1 >>>> HL2

There is really no game like Morrowind, and while good on their own, the following ES games don't even hold a candle to it.

The lines between mobile and PC gaming will blur as time moves forward

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« Reply #13 on: March 24, 2015, 01:46:12 AM »
metal gear solid games have good gameplay

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« Reply #14 on: March 24, 2015, 01:53:33 AM »
Let's see.

I hate how Nintendo feels the need to cram system features into every game just to say that they're supporting said features, the latest gimmick being Amiibo integration to make those $13 paperweights feel like they have a purpose. It was just as bad when Fire Emblem Awakening's spotpass features broke the game's balance and how Smash Bros. 3DS has streetpass features for some reason.

This ties into the above, but I feel like modern nintendo games are lacking a solid identity these days. Whether its forcing every game to have similar feature sets (like how Sakurai rips features from his previous games to shove into his new ones so he doesn't have to come up with anything new), showing characters interacting with the hardware (Bowser holding a wiiu gamepad in the mario party 10 cover looks really stupid) or giving their games some really generic names.

The dialogue in Nintendo Treehouse localizations make me cringe. Games with selfie modes also do, for that matter.

Demon's Souls is still the best souls game, though Dark Souls has some better boss fights.

I'd never felt physical pain from playing games until I played Kid Icarus Uprising. The worst controls I've ever seen in a game.

Ninja Theory are incapable of making a good video game. Enslaved was the embodiment of all the worst aspects of the ps360 generation. DmC was mediocre game, which is higher praise than I'd give Enslaved and Heavenly Sword, and was only as ok as it was thanks to Capcom's supervision.

Yoko Shinomura music has been incredibly boring ever since she got involved in Kingdom Hearts. She literally remakes the same music for each game, and even FF15's battle theme feels like it belongs in Kingdom Hearts.

Final Fantasy 6 is half-trash. World of Balance is alright, but then the game turns to shit in World of Ruin. Ridculously easy, has the most boring world in the series, a messy un-focused cast where only like 2 dudes get proper character arcs, every dungeon and almost 80% of the dungeons you go to are caves so everything looks the same.

Square Enix is in a great spot to make itself relevant again following the 13 shit-show. A shame that the only smart people at that company are stuck working solely on A Realm Reborn, though Tabata looks to know what he's doing with 15 (and can actually make a game in a reasonable timeframe, unlike Nomura).

I can't stand most dungeon crawlers and roguelikes. I get really bored playing games where I can't actively look at my characters performing actions, even if its as simple as what 7th Dragon does.

The only PS2 mascot series that had a good second game is Ratcher & Clank. Both Sly 2 and Jak 2 are garbage.

Bioshock 2 is the best game of the three. The story quality took a hit (who cares) but it had the most fun gameplay setups, abilities and plasmids. 1 is ok, Infinite is a huge pretentious turd.

Uncharted 1 and Golden Abyss are my favorite of the series cause they focus more on gameplay than story. I could only play 2 and 3 once before shelving them forever, just playing them once removes all the surprise from playing on higher difficulties.

Mega Man 1 is better than Mega Man 2. Mega Man 9 is garbage despite having the best power-ups in the series. The rest are varying degrees of ok.

Mass Effect 2 is shit. The first game wasn't the greatest either, but there was more potential for the franchise coming out of that game than turning it into a corridor based shooter that trimed away every important customization option and whose idea of difficulty was to give everything more armor/do more damage. Obsidian's Alpha Protocol is what ME2 should have been. The developer/media reaction to ME3 being shit was embarrassing to watch.
Ni no Kuni is one of the worst games on the PS3. The art is all it has going for it, the game treats you like a 5 year old, the combat is really basic and boring, traversal is a chore, most quests revolve around fetching stuff or fighting RNG to have one monster drop one item/capture said monster. The second half of the game is a literal rehash of everything the game already did that only serves to exist the game's playtime by like 10 more hours.

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« Reply #15 on: March 24, 2015, 01:58:21 AM »
Final Fantasy XIII is a good game. Final Fantasy is probably the only really good series left.

The Playstation Vita is the worst PlayStation system yet.

God of War games are trash and feature one of the most annoying protags in games.

The Halo universe is boring and generic sci-fi. With Master Cheif being the most boring icon in gaming. The universe and lore are so shitty that anyone who takes it seriously is an idiot.

Assassin's Creed is a bad series with bad gameplay that evolved into open world shit with the 2nd game.

Uncharted games are actually pretty boring to replay and may be a very overrated series as thier campaigns are one trick poneys. With three really wearing it thin.

Nintendo sucks.

Console gaming is'nt that bad.

Indie games aren't at all interesting.

AAA is hardly terrible.

Metal Gear Solid 4 was garbage and so bad it makes PW(which is also garbage) seem less garbage.

Persona 4's cast has become tiring.

Atlus has been one of the most disappointing Japanese developers on the consoles.

Skyrim was pretty underwhelming.

Drakgengard 3 was trash and Nier is hardly the art shit people make it out to be. Yoko Taro is a hack.

Mass Effect was always a shitty series. 1 never delivered on it's promises and had shitty combat. While delivering the most visually unexciting universe as you visited boring worlds made up of campers or other copy and pasted bland environments. You also spent your time on a space mall. 2 just had a shitty uneventful story. 3 just seem like they gave up.

Bioware just in general sucks.

Bioshock Infinite was trash. Dumbed down FPS combat with powers that seem completely interchangeable with a plot that wants to handle so many things and fails at all of them. The ending is trash that makes no sense, but it's defenders just fall back on "you don't get it".

Bad Company 2 was the worst Battlefield game. Shitty level design for conquest with the points all near each other and in a straight line as to funnel players into action.


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« Reply #16 on: March 24, 2015, 02:13:39 AM »
Hating on Bioshock Infinite isn't controversial  :lol

Infinite gets shit on by people all the time. I personally dig the game a lot.
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« Reply #17 on: March 24, 2015, 02:26:48 AM »
i don't get the appeal of fatlus smt games. like the combat is fine for an rpg but not anything mind-blowing, and everything else is just kinda bland. is the appeal solely rooted in anime weeabism or is there something else I'm missing?
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« Reply #18 on: March 24, 2015, 02:36:45 AM »
i don't get the appeal of fatlus smt games. like the combat is fine for an rpg but not anything mind-blowing, and everything else is just kinda bland. is the appeal solely rooted in anime weeabism or is there something else I'm missing?

At least in my case, I'd never played a game that banked on the "socialize with people to get stronger" aspect that Persona 3 played up, so it was kind of novel at the time. Combat-wise, even a watered down version of SMT's Press Turn is pretty fun, if really obtuse until P4 let you command everyone.

I initially liked P4 cause it was a lot cheerier than most games in the genre, with a cast seemed like normal-ish people doing stuff that didn't immediately turn to the end of the world. Since then though, subsequent P4 media has really Flanderized a lot of cast and turned them into characters that all do that one thing they're known for and heavily play up the anime weeabism. Not that I blame them seeing how its their biggest cash cow. P5 seems like a clean break from all that noise, for now at least.

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« Reply #19 on: March 24, 2015, 03:09:41 AM »
P5 does look fucking awesome, and I'm not that into JRPGs. Hopefully fatlus doesn't screw the pooch. Would love to pick up a PS3 copy if it's good.

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« Reply #20 on: March 24, 2015, 03:13:56 AM »
i don't get the appeal of fatlus smt games. like the combat is fine for an rpg but not anything mind-blowing, and everything else is just kinda bland. is the appeal solely rooted in anime weeabism or is there something else I'm missing?

Did you play Nocturne?
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« Reply #21 on: March 24, 2015, 03:53:52 AM »
I don't think many of my opinions on certain things are controversial, but more in the minority.

i don't get the appeal of fatlus smt games. like the combat is fine for an rpg but not anything mind-blowing, and everything else is just kinda bland. is the appeal solely rooted in anime weeabism or is there something else I'm missing?

I think it's that while there are many branches of the SMT IP itself, much of the attention seems to have been focused on Persona since Persona 3.  This is anecdotal and likely will be inaccurate, but sometimes it seems that there are more Persona fans (specifically, Persona 3/4 fans) and there aren't a lot of people who delve deeply in the back-catalogue of the other Shin Megami Tensei subseries since they're all pretty different (Shin Megami Tensei IV, notwithstanding, which is pretty nice to see).  Therefore, the other games in the entire series remain in the background since they haven't pulled in as big of a fanbase.

I've discovered that I mostly go for the core SMT stuff than Persona these days, particularly because much of the story is told based on your environment, atmosphere, and interaction, as opposed to how Persona's storytelling is like.  It's been like that since the Famicom, and going by SMT4, I'm quite glad that it has not changed (well, not changed a lot).  The Persona games are decent mechanically/stats-speaking, absolutely, but the fanbases really do play the games up to be more than they are (ex: "Persona 4 ruined other games for me and I can no longer play other RPGs!", etc.). 

If many of the issues stem from Persona, looking into the mainline SMT games as opposed to their spinoffs would probably be a good idea.  Stuff like Nocturne, the SMT Famicom/Super Famicom games, Raidou, Soul Hackers, Digital Devil Saga, etc. might be a better experience for those who aren't inclined to play a Persona game past Persona 3.  Even Persona 1 and 2 are quite different atmospherically, musically, and tonally from the other two games in the series.  What got me into the Shin Megami Tensei series was its focus on some micromanagement combined with its capacity to not slap you in the face with a melodramatic narrative constantly.  You do have to recruit demons via negotiation and bribery, and you need to fuse them to make even stronger party members-- but the only member you have full statistical control of are the human characters (and weapons are designed to be equipped only by certain people of a certain alignment).  It's interesting even just going back to the very first game in the series how in-depth many of the systems in terms of micromangement is.

Additionally, many of the earlier games drew quite a lot from Wizardry, and the mainline games have not necessarily changed from that aspect, which is something I really like about it.  However, that said, a lot of people aren't going to dig that at all.  I like playing around with numbers, but a lot of people really don't. 

If there's honestly nothing in any of the Shin Megami Tensei branches that attract you at all, I'd say that the series is probably not for you.  It certainly isn't a series for everyone, even if the Persona spinoff series has made it easier for people to ease into the games.

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« Reply #22 on: March 24, 2015, 04:04:38 AM »
Persona 3 was definitely my gateway game into the series at large, as I'd only ever read the SMT name in passing before I played P3 around when it came out. A lot of the much older games are very much not for me, but I've definitely gotten a kick out of Nocturne, Devil Summoner, Strange Journey and I even dabbled in that one MMO for a while. Started Digital Devil Saga but haven't really gone back it.


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« Reply #23 on: March 24, 2015, 04:09:20 AM »
I started with Nocturne and I've since then gone back and played through most of the English releases. It's a mixed bag of quality.

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« Reply #24 on: March 24, 2015, 04:19:18 AM »
Nice post SpeedStats. My question to Big Jumbo wasn't some troll trap but an honest attempt to see what they've experienced. My entre to SMT was P3fes but there's much more to it than the more recent offerings.
@archnemesis That's eventually true of any 'series'. There is a valid reason though (imho) why SMT is held in special regard
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« Reply #25 on: March 24, 2015, 04:38:01 AM »
@Fortus: The series is quite uncompromising. Atlus keep doing their own thing and don't care that much what everyone else in the industry is doing. The combat systems are playful and well-thought-out. Elemental weaknesses and buffs/debuffs have a much greater importance than in other RPG series where you often can progress by simply using the basic fight and heal commands. You also have interesting plots and characters without being needlessly wordy (with the exception for the more recent Persona games).

I wouldn't claim that the series is better than everything else out there. It has, however, outlasted many other popular series (e.g. Suikoden and Breath of Fire) while being deeper and more complex than the biggest names (Final Fantasy and Dragon Quest).

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« Reply #26 on: March 24, 2015, 07:22:35 AM »
i played a few hours of persona 1, p3 psp, nocturne, and dds1. there stuff i like about each of them, but they all seem to have that combat combat combat feeling. i dunno, i like (old) jrpgs; maybe i just need to get more used to the rhythm o and pacing of the series.
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« Reply #27 on: March 24, 2015, 08:48:12 AM »
I enjoy shorter, more casual AAA games, as long as they're not button prompt movies. I think of them as amusement park rides.  Everyone's looking forward to that kind of game going away, but I'll miss them. I'd rather have a hundred more Blood Dragons and Call of Juarez Gunslinger type games  than the flood of "Hey man remember when we all used to play NES games look I made an NES game it's all 8-bit and stuff isn't it cute so now you can play games that look like the Marios and Zeldas from your childhood on your $800 computer" that keeps rolling out.

There's never been a good stealth game. It's all trial and error bullshit or pattern memorization, no matter how cleverly it's dressed.

I honestly think people who play games on the hardest settings and brag about it, or use their uh skill to insult others, have some degree of mental problems. Maybe they like to punish themselves because they feel guilty about playing video games.

I think Steam sales and bundles and the like are ultimately harmful to the business side of video games, because they slowly condition everyone to wait for everything to hit $10 or below. Just like Amazon has conditioned most people to wait for books to hit $.99, and App stores have conditioned most people to not buy apps over $.99.  They're consistently putting out the message that their product has no worth, and you are being ripped off by paying more than a dollar or two.  Games/books/apps as trading cards, essentially. That said, I don't give a fuck, and will continue to take advantage of it.


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Re: what are your ardently held contraversial gaming opinions
« Reply #28 on: March 24, 2015, 09:00:56 AM »
Oh boy here we go..

Never played a final fantasy except tactics....they are garbage

nintendo has been shit since the gamecube

sega was always better than nintendo

Metroid Sucks

Ring King is still the best boxing game of all time.

River City Ransom is better than any double dragon ever made

Side Scrolling fighters are sorely missed this generation.

Edit: I'm totally ready for another WW2 shooter. Just bring Red Orchestra to XBL pls. Charge 24.99, don't care.
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« Reply #29 on: March 24, 2015, 09:17:37 AM »
The game playing public largely consists of impatient idiots.
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Pixel-wankery is holding everyone back, on both the retro and bleeding edge side of things.

Half Life 2 wasn't that good as a game. The Source engine was/is way more valuable.
It did one thing incredibly well: teaching the player how to play and where to go without explicitly telling them through floating arrows and endless repetition of 'hints' and such. Anything else they may have pioneered or done really well isn't really worth mentioning any more.

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« Reply #30 on: March 24, 2015, 09:20:49 AM »
Half life two and almost every other valve game is :trash if you don't play it on PC.
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« Reply #31 on: March 24, 2015, 09:43:10 AM »
Controversial opinions?

Maybe this one: Mass Effect 2 > Mass Effect 1?

But mostly none, I am mostly mainstream and it feels good. Eff the hipsters.

I agree on ME. 1 is okay but that damn Mako bullshit ruined it.
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« Reply #32 on: March 24, 2015, 09:49:48 AM »
Here's a better controversial opinion about Mass Effect.
The whole series sucks. It's hamfisted and incredibly cheesy. At best its passable.
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Re: what are your ardently held contraversial gaming opinions
« Reply #33 on: March 24, 2015, 09:51:16 AM »
Bioware has never been good and they entered a satanic pact or something when they made Baldur's Gate 2.

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« Reply #34 on: March 24, 2015, 09:54:55 AM »
Open world games are (mostly) garbage and

Bioware has never been good and they entered a satanic pact or something when they made Baldur's Gate 2.

KOTOR though

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« Reply #35 on: March 24, 2015, 09:56:43 AM »
Bioware has never been good and they entered a satanic pact or something when they made Baldur's Gate 2.

KOTOR I and II, ME2, and Balders Gate 2  say fuck you.
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« Reply #36 on: March 24, 2015, 09:59:21 AM »
Kotor 2 isnt even bioware

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« Reply #37 on: March 24, 2015, 10:04:24 AM »
Doesn't even feel like Star Wars (which is what makes it good).

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« Reply #38 on: March 24, 2015, 10:19:46 AM »
Kotor 2 isnt even bioware

It was like 66% bioware with some new scripts (better scripts)
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« Reply #39 on: March 24, 2015, 10:36:46 AM »
  • Smartphone/tablet gaming is garbage.  Touchscreen controls make me want to puke.  Make a fucking standard controller/case already, Apple.
  • Square-Enix makes some of the most boring games I've ever tried to play.
  • Diablo III is so damn boring.  Sorry bros.  Even the more "action-oriented" console version made me sleepy.
  • Rockstar is kind of the same way.  I appreciate the insane amounts of detail they put into their games, but I get bored of them so quickly.  Didn't bother with GTAV.
  • All FPS games need to have a third-person camera option. 
  • I'm sick and tired of all these 'indie' games that ape the 8-bit style.  Time to at least move onto copying the look and sound of 16-bit games, guys.
  • Nintendo has actually improved greatly from the previous generation.
  • However, Nintendo not having an account system in place for digital purchases is absolutely laughable.  Ditto for Wii U HDD space.
  • It's just sad seeing the state of a lot of Japanese developers.  Konami is like the walking dead now.
  • I don't believe for a second that there are so many males actually up in arms about scantily-clad females in games.  SJW shit all over the place.
  • The reasons why are obvious, but it is hilarious that people make a big deal out of sexual stuff but seem to have no problems with violence.
  • Nintendo went downhill with the N64.  Their 2D games are much better than their 3D offerings.
  • The Genesis had a better and more impressive library of games than the SNES did.  And yeah, it was faster.  Blast Processing must be real!
  • Most 'open-world'/sandbox games bore the shit out of me.
  • Crazy, unrealistic arcade racing games need to return.  All this sim stuff is fucking boring.
  • Western games need to stop having 'bald space marine' character types. 
  • Japanese games need to stop having 'moe uguu~ schoolgirls and 'typical high school dude with spiky hair' character types.  There is life after high school.
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Re: what are your ardently held contraversial gaming opinions
« Reply #40 on: March 24, 2015, 10:39:45 AM »

Side Scrolling fighters are sorely missed this generation.


If by "this generation" you mean Xbone/PS4, the games are coming.  But there's plenty of 360/PS3/PC.
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Re: what are your ardently held contraversial gaming opinions
« Reply #41 on: March 24, 2015, 10:44:40 AM »

Side Scrolling fighters are sorely missed this generation.


If by "this generation" you mean Xbone/PS4, the games are coming.  But there's plenty of 360/PS3/PC.

The only SSF's i liked on XBOX360 was Guardian Heros. Everything else was trash.

What's coming for this gen?
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« Reply #42 on: March 24, 2015, 10:46:41 AM »

Side Scrolling fighters are sorely missed this generation.


If by "this generation" you mean Xbone/PS4, the games are coming.  But there's plenty of 360/PS3/PC.

The only SSF's i liked on XBOX360 was Guardian Heros. Everything else was trash.

What's coming for this gen?

You don't mean fighting games....you mean beat-em-ups.  Guardian Heroes was a port from the Saturn, BTW.  That's been an almost-dead genre for quite some time.  Phantom Breaker Battlegrounds is coming to PS4 though.
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Re: what are your ardently held contraversial gaming opinions
« Reply #43 on: March 24, 2015, 10:48:22 AM »

Side Scrolling fighters are sorely missed this generation.


If by "this generation" you mean Xbone/PS4, the games are coming.  But there's plenty of 360/PS3/PC.

The only SSF's i liked on XBOX360 was Guardian Heros. Everything else was trash.

What's coming for this gen?

You don't mean fighting games....you mean beat-em-ups.  Guardian Heroes was a port from the Saturn, BTW.  That's been an almost-dead genre for quite some time.  Phantom Breaker Battlegrounds is coming to PS4 though.

Yes I had it for the Saturn. Probably a top 5 ever game for me.

Yes I mean beat em ups, I miss the hell out of those things man.

I wish Konami would just release the Crime Fighters/Vendetta series on XBL as a perfect arcade port. I'd buy that tomorrow




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Re: what are your ardently held contraversial gaming opinions
« Reply #44 on: March 24, 2015, 11:11:14 AM »
that phantom breakers game has really great combat but the little anime girls all over the place is just no. if you can play it when no one's looking it's fun
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Re: what are your ardently held contraversial gaming opinions
« Reply #45 on: March 24, 2015, 11:14:01 AM »
o and here's my controversial opinion Bioware is pretty great and you guys are dingleberries. whatever problems i have with them are easy to overlook just bc i can choose to play as someone who isn't a kratos-lite level dickbag
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Re: what are your ardently held contraversial gaming opinions
« Reply #46 on: March 24, 2015, 11:23:35 AM »
Gamecube was underrated and xbox 1 overrated.  Shadow of the Colossus and ICO are 6/10 games at most. 

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« Reply #47 on: March 24, 2015, 11:30:52 AM »
"AAA" games are not always AAA games -that's implying they're all stellar titles- so why are they being called that?  It's the budgets that are high.  Call them $$$ games.
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Re: what are your ardently held contraversial gaming opinions
« Reply #48 on: March 24, 2015, 11:47:43 AM »
Ninja Theory are incapable of making a good video game.

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I can't stand most dungeon crawlers and roguelikes. I get really bored playing games where I can't actively look at my characters performing actions

Drawing further from this, I cannot stand (mostly older) RPGs where you cannot see your character attacking and/or the sprites have no animation, I.E. 8-bit and 16-bit era JRPGs.

Mega Man 1 is better than Mega Man 2.

LOCK THIS MAN UP IN A PADDED CELL AND THROW AWAY THE KEY.

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Re: what are your ardently held contraversial gaming opinions
« Reply #49 on: March 24, 2015, 11:47:48 AM »
Final Fantasy XIII is a good game. Final Fantasy is probably the only really good series left.

No.

The Playstation Vita is the worst PlayStation system yet.

I TAKE IT BACK, LOCK THIS MAN UP.

God of War games are trash and feature one of the most annoying protags in games.

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Re: what are your ardently held contraversial gaming opinions
« Reply #50 on: March 24, 2015, 11:52:04 AM »
I've always understood AAA to be a product tier. We spent this much money casting the widest possible net with focus testing, pointlessly hired well known actors to read garbage, had an eastern european philharmonic orchestra record a generic symphonic soundtrack, spent more on marketing and CG trailers than previous generation titles cost to make, etc.  "Spend big to earn big" philosophy/fallacy, top to bottom.
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« Reply #51 on: March 24, 2015, 12:00:26 PM »
3D Mario > 2D Mario.

NOPE NOPE NOPE NOPE

Resident Evil games were always more action oriented from 2 on. That said they always still had horror elements even in the more actiony games(4, 5 and 6). The issue some had is that it was scarier when it had tank controls and they can't accept a game being more tense action wise due to the controls, which are far superior.

None of the Resident Evil games were ever scary.  It was always an action-oriented series with the puzzle-solving shit thrown in.  You're not going up against supernatural stuff; it's bio-weapons gone bad.  There's one legit scare in RE-- when the dogs jump through the windows in the first game. 

That said, the real horror game series was always Silent Hill. That series felt like the tank controls made more sense for it than it ever did in RE past the first one, as that series always felt like it tried to have more action but couldn't achieve what it wanted till RE4.

Yup.  Too bad Silent Hill went to shit with the fourth game.

As much as I love Mortal Kombat, the only reason it ever sold more or got more popularity than Street Fighter was due to it being simpler to play and it having a style more appealing to the West. I hate God Of War, but same can be said for why it always sold more than Devil May Cry and Ninja Gaiden.

Absolutely.  Mortal Kombat was popular because of its hilariously-bad blood n' gore.  The game play was mediocre for a long, long time and the digitized sprites and stupid/cheesy costumes used looked terrible.  I was incredibly disappointed when MK4 came out and was essentially the game game, style-wise, but with polygon models.  They finally started getting better with Deadly Alliance but it took them years to get better game play, with MK9, and even then I have complaints.  And they still can't do good presentation...look at the win poses in MK9.  I hope they improve this with X.

Games are as good as they always have been, if you only play AAA games you're not really into games as much as you say you are.

I would argue that things have gotten worse if you like Japanese games, but western-developed titles have improved and have taken over with the top game series.

Phoenix Wright games are the best adventure games of the past decade.

Let me switch to fanboy mode for a second.
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The first three Phoenix Wright games are GBA titles from 2001, 2002, and 2003 IIRC. One and three are the best games in the series.


Retro Castlevania > Igavania's. Symphony of the Night is fantastic, but every other one that tries to be it is decent at best.

Nah.  Iga had it down.  He made Rondo which was awesome.  SOTN changed things up to Metroid style and was amazing.  I am certain that if he were allowed to have made console games, the follow-ups would have been just as good.  Aria Of Sorrow on the GBA was better than SOTN was, content-wise, but SOTN had better visuals and that amazing soundtrack.


Madworld, Vanquish and Bayonetta are peak Platinum Games. Other than Revengeance everything else is OK.

Madworld's concept is great.  It plays like ass.  Give me its sequel any day.  Bayonetta 2 is also some of Platinum's best work.

Nights Into Dreams is the most overrated Sega game. It's good but definitely not on the level the fanbase would have you think.

Could never get into this game.  Never saw the appeal.

The love for Rare is almost all due to nostalgia. I've always hated that excuse but it definitely applies when it comes to Rare. The quality has been the same even with the move to MS the only difference is that the fanbase grew up.

Rare was awesome in the 80s and early 90s.  Then Nintendo bought them and things went downhill.  Sure, you have some bright spots here and there, but I hated those Donkey Kong Country games and KI was always mediocre.  Goldeneye multiplayer was pretty fun though.


The Wii is underrated simply because the Nintendo games were still good. And it actually had way better third party output than the Gamecube.

I disagree with your comment on Japanese games, but I covered that in my own post.  Anyway, no.  Waggle control sucked.
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The Last Of Us, however, is boring. While the presentation is well done. It's a very cliched typical zombie story and I found the emotional core to be a bit hamfisted. While the gameplay was a big stepdown from Uncharted with weaker stealth and survival mechanics from much older games.

Have bought this game twice now, and PS3 and PS4, and cannot get into it.  I enjoy Uncharted but this just did not grab me.

I wish 2D fighting games would go for better sprites over 3D models.

A lot of the talent just isn't there anymore.  I'd prefer they stick with polys because they can be updated easier and can match the game's resolution.  KOF XIII looks beautiful but it's using 480P sprites and it would take a lot more work to change them up.
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Re: what are your ardently held contraversial gaming opinions
« Reply #52 on: March 24, 2015, 12:05:15 PM »
Bork.....stahp.....
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« Reply #53 on: March 24, 2015, 12:19:24 PM »
No, I actually am enjoying this. Haven't played Bayo 2 yet, really want to. But I still stand by MadWorld > Max Anarchy.

It's implied that you stop too, for the record   :bolo
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« Reply #54 on: March 24, 2015, 12:22:20 PM »
By the way speak for yourself Bork. That first RE when that goddamn devil dog jumps through the window about gave me a stroke.
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« Reply #55 on: March 24, 2015, 12:36:28 PM »
No, I actually am enjoying this. Haven't played Bayo 2 yet, really want to. But I still stand by MadWorld > Max Anarchy.

Max Anarchy is an actual game, not a waggle-fest.  Max Anarchy wins.

By the way speak for yourself Bork. That first RE when that goddamn devil dog jumps through the window about gave me a stroke.

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None of the Resident Evil games were ever scary.  It was always an action-oriented series with the puzzle-solving shit thrown in.  You're not going up against supernatural stuff; it's bio-weapons gone bad.  There's one legit scare in RE-- when the dogs jump through the windows in the first game. 

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...Which pretty much proves my point.   :lol
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« Reply #56 on: March 24, 2015, 01:13:29 PM »
Oh I forgot two.

I love the entirety of the God of War series. They press the right amount of buttons to make me not care about how stupid Kratos is or how Zeus' plot makes no sense, I just enjoy killing shit. I've played every game in the series at least two times over and have all the platinums for every game in the platform they're available. I probably won't be able to resist the remaster for the third game just to keep that collection going.

Xenoblade is overrated tripe. The music and environmental art direction are all it has going for it, cause the combat is garbage, the characters and their motivations are cliche as hell and the AI is braindead to the point where you can't use some characters unless you control them directly because the AI doesn't know how to play them. It's hundreds of sidequests bullet point that people like to spout are composed entirely of MMO style fetch quests of "kill x goats" or "retrieve x items" that have little to no interaction with the NPCs requesting it. The menu arrangement sucks. Enemy scaling is super laughable, you pretty much miss all your attacks when fighting enemies 10 levels higher than you, can fight them within  a 5 level range, then you completely overpower them once you're 10 levels higher. Nintendo fans praise this game as the best jrpg ever because its the only average one to grace the Wii, since the only other good rps had the worst localization of the past generation and no one wanted to touch it.

Xenoblade X looks to be more of the same with few lessons being learned from the last game. I'm expecting the game to be as awful as its battle theme.

Retro Castlevania > Igavania's. Symphony of the Night is fantastic, but every other one that tries to be it is decent at best.

AAA gaming is not THAT bad, compared to what I said before. there's enough good stuff to last you a while if that's all you go for, even if indie gaming has a lot more to offer.

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I don't hate Igavania, but I really do prefer the classic platformers over it. Though with the current state of Castlevania, I'd take another Iga work over Mercurystream desecrating the corpse some more.

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Okami is a mediocre game that goes on too long and is held back by it's combat system.

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Madworld and No More Heroes are probably the best games to use the wiimote. To the point where any port or successor found on other consoles suffered due to not having it.

I'll give you No More Heroes, but my memories of MadWorld involve hilariously failing at the boss waggle QTEs and getting super frustrated. It always took a good five attempts before the wiimote would properly register me swinging in the direction the game was asking me to. Max Anarchy took the characters and made a game that actually works, though admittedly I like MadWorld's concept way more.

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The dualshock of old is better than the PS4 controller. I'd rather play with something I'm used to than something new with too much going on and shoddier hardware.

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I used to be an ardent DS3 fanboy, but using the DS4 for so long makes me see the DS2 as the cheap piece of shit it is. Shoddy ergonomics, awful triggers that get pressed just by blowing on them. I plug in my DS4 into the PS3 whenever I have to use it.

And Ace Attorney is great, yeah. The last case is game 2 is still my favorite, and its a shame that no other game has done a case like it. AA5 is pure  :trash though.

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Re: what are your ardently held contraversial gaming opinions
« Reply #57 on: March 24, 2015, 01:54:52 PM »
The Atelier series' Dusk Trilogy are three of the best JRPGs on the PS3

Kickstarter has done more for my enjoyment of videogames in the past 2 years than Sony or Microsoft
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« Reply #58 on: March 24, 2015, 02:05:55 PM »
Resident Evil director Shinji Mikami is a hack, in every way and form.  He hasn't made a remotely decent game since P.N.03.

God Hand was jank garbage and one of the worst action games I've had the pleasure of playing.

Vanquish was uninspired reactionless shootbang fodder with no creativity in the gunplay whatsoever other than a lame ass boost mechanic that you don't NEED to use nor can you use properly because of how the level design is.

The Evil Within is trash.  Shitty AI with ridiculous fighting game esque hitboxes, shitty field of view ruined what is essentially a 'me-too!' aping of the best moments of RE4 (which are very few of them.)

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Devil May Cry only has three good games in the series.  The original, 3, and DmC (as of Definitive Edition.)  2 and 4 are flabby and sick status.   1 > 3 > DmC > 2 > 4

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« Reply #59 on: March 24, 2015, 02:41:16 PM »
The Wii had a better first-party lineup than its two predecessors.

The GameBoy Advance sucked because it had a weak first-party lineup.