what are your ardently held contraversial gaming opinions

[bork]

Street Fighter sucks.

Mortal Kombat sucks.

Tekken Sucks.

Virtual Fighter is

Let me fix that for you.

Virtua Fighter is 

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[Human Snorenado]

The franchise with the most entertaining stories took the most badass character from the 80's

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Solid Snake is a whiny emo fuccboi

Snake Plissken is a badass that doesn't fucking whine

Kojima is the worst thing to happen to video games since Miyamoto

[mormapope]

Hes a whiny emo oldboy in MGS4 and only MGS4.

Kojima is the only game director to stay relevant for 30 years.

[Human Snorenado]

Sure, I guess. If "relevant" means "convincing people with shitty taste to buy your tripe and treat it like Shakespeare."

[mormapope]

Only full blown spergs treat the MGS series like its flawless or it doesn't have huge pacing/writing issues breh. 

I love the series to death but I admit its melodramtic as fuck and has serious pacing issues in each game. MGS4 is non stop garbage. The people that say MGS as a series has terrible gameplay suck at stealth games or lack the ability to learn new things.

[Human Snorenado]

Oh, I'm sorry. I was unaware that there were "games" amidst all the cutscene horseshit and codec chatter.

Kojima should make movies, because that's what he wants to do.

[Rahxephon91]

MGS is like the most "gamey" series out there.

People need to stop being ignorant idiots when they criticize the series.

[mormapope]

MGS is like the most "gamey" series out there.

People need to stop being ignorant idiots when they criticize the series.

You can also skip every cutscene and codec conversation in every game in the franchise.

[Rahxephon91]

First. I'm probably the biggest MGS fan here.

The story is'nt shitty.

The games incredibly operate on gamey logic for almost anything.

Are there plenty of cutscenes? Sure, I don't believe I said there wasn't. That dosen't change the fact that pretty much every MGS game offers plenty of gameplay. Gameplay mostly about fucking with AI. Pretty much every MGS game gives you plenty of tools and playing with the Ai can easily become a sandbox if you want it. Or you can just straight up shoot people. The game has plenty of options. MGA1 and especially MGS3 have plenty of gameplay and a good balance between gameplay and cutscenes. Only 2 is the outlier and even then it features pretty much the best version of MGS gameplay pre-4. If you just want the gameplay, pick up the expanded versions or just skip the cutscenes. All the MGS games are very replayable because of the ammount of things you can do, the diffculty options, and hidden things to find. People you accuse the MGS games of simply just being story are idiots. There's an incredible amount of game in them and at at least until 4 they were also very self aware about thier gamey logic.

[mormapope]

I interpreted gamey as the game not pretending it isn't a videogame. Characters will tell you button prompts, specific game tips on how to beat bosses or how to progress, all that sorta shit. You would never hear Ellie tell Joel that he needs to press square to reload, you will never hear Liara tell Shepard that the inventory system fucking sucks.

MGS is incredibly traditional when it comes to separating gameplay and cutscenes, but the context and things going on in the universe are gamey as hell.

[Human Snorenado]

The story is'nt shitty.

Your opinion would have more weight if you weren't you

[mormapope]

I'd say the plot in every MGS game is whack and weird as fuck, but the subject matter and themes in each game (minus MGS4) are the most interesting in the AAA gaming space.

MGS1: Cold hearted solider learning to live his life without pain and letting go of what he's made of, nuclear disarmament and how the world is sleeping regarding that.

MGS2: The digital age and how context or information can be interpreted, the dilution of any absolute truth and how the world functions.

MGS3: How having a life without meaning causes deep seated loyalty and sacrifice.

[Steve Contra]

Catch feels over a thread for troll opinions you guys are taking some serious Ls here, Snorenado chief amongst you

[Rahxephon91]

I'm sorry MGS dosen't have enough mindless clicking. Why don't you go play that and stop being a giant fucking douche for once?

[Rahxephon91]

The story is'nt shitty.

it's extra shitty. you don't have to defend it via the whole bla bla bla it's tongue in cheek or whatever. it's real real bad.

I wouldn't defend it that way, because I don't give a fuck what any of you actually think about the games. It's not bad. It's just as dumb as any over the top action story. No one is going to say MGS is as good as high literature or a really good movie. It's a fun series that occasionally has good enough plotlines and characters that are memorable and at least have a point to them. It's as good and entertaining as any normal superhero comic or national broadcast television show. No one seriously thinks it's high art. That's stupid. It simply was good enough to be interested in and care what happens.

But then again, this is thebore where everyone thinks they are fucking above everything and everything sucks. So why even talk about video games?

[I'm a Puppy!]

The story is'nt shitty.

it's extra shitty. you don't have to defend it via the whole bla bla bla it's tongue in cheek or whatever. it's real real bad.

Honestly, I think only 1 and 3 have a chance of having their stories not be shitty. There were some silly elements but if you removed it, not that bad.
2 could possibly be saved if it weren't for execution
Jack: "Colonel, they're going to kill the hostages. I'm going in!"
Rose: "But you never spend any time with me bwaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!'

Still really silly but maybe it could be saved. Probably not.
There's no hope for 4 though.

And actually the Non-Boss sections of Peace Walker weren't that bad either. I did sorta like the idea of Big boss having to take down the memory of the mentor he killed (even if it was fantastical), I thought it was compelling. Then the ghost of his mentor took over a robot, started singing a Carpenter's song and drowned itself in the ocean. Kojima!!!!!

[Madrun Badrun]

Tower Defense is the best genre. Especially any genre blends on it ala Sanctum or Orcs Must Die.

The new Orcs Must Die just hit beta.  So excited.

[mormapope]

MGS3 is the goofiest one out of the bunch. Hornet man, spiderman, photosynthetic old sniper, flamethrower man, soul man, lightning man, and then finally the normal one. MGS2 has the same supernatural stuff, but MGS3 took it further.

MGS1 still has the best voice acting in the series, best dialog too.

[I'm a Puppy!]

MGS3 is the goofiest one out of the bunch. Hornet man, spiderman, photosynthetic old sniper, flamethrower man, soul man, lightning man, and then finally the normal one. MGS2 has the same supernatural stuff, but MGS3 took it further.

MGS1 still has the best voice acting in the series, best dialog too.

Come now, all those bosses wouldn't be out of place in a super hero movie. Let's not pretend that videogames are supposed to be like Shakespeare. At best they're like a super hero movie. If you take that into account, MGS3 isn't too far off the mark.

[mormapope]

I agree with this. Ain't exactly a high bar, though.

MGS1's voice acting holds up really well nowadays. Having played it a bunch last year, you'd be surprised how natural everyone sounds with the shit they have to say. Its legitimately good. Compared to other games at the time, MGS1 kills it.

MGS2's voice acting is awkward and unnatural in comparison, its awkward and unnatural to begin with. At least for the Colonel it makes sense, he's AI.

[mormapope]

Come now, all those bosses wouldn't be out of place in a super hero movie. Let's not pretend that videogames are supposed to be like Shakespeare. At best they're like a super hero movie. If you take that into account, MGS3 isn't too far off the mark.

Shakespeare is garbage anyways 

Coming from the heart too.

[I'm a Puppy!]

Street Fighter sucks.

Mortal Kombat sucks.

Tekken Sucks.

Virtual Fighter is

While I' disagree about Street Fighter ('sfun man.)
I do gotta agree about everything else.
Especially Virtua fighter. That game requires almost a zen like state of mind to master.

[mormapope]

Street Fighter 4 is one of the best fighting games of all time because you win due to fundamentals, not combos. If you aren't patient or if you don't learn from defeat, it'll suck ass.

Marvel vs. Capcom 3 needed more love and care. Shit needed to be updated and tweaked, more characters could've been added. Capcom losing the license has caused the game's death competitively.

[cool breeze]

I'm not about to defend metal gear stories but I'll give Kojima credit for recycling the same story outline for four games.  mgs4 is the first time he deviated and look how that turned out. 

[pilonv1]

Tower Defense is the best genre. Especially any genre blends on it ala Sanctum or Orcs Must Die.

The new Orcs Must Die just hit beta.  So excited.

Didn't they have a FTP version that sucked giant wangs? I didn't like the co-op focus in OMD2 either

[Mr. Nobody]

FF12 and 13 were pretty good.

Kingdom Hearts is trash and only loved because idiots can't get past "Disney  "

Metroidvanias are a top 5 gaming genre

[Positive Touch]

well any fun that coulda been had itt is dead and gone now Jesus Christ

[Madrun Badrun]

Tower Defense is the best genre. Especially any genre blends on it ala Sanctum or Orcs Must Die.

The new Orcs Must Die just hit beta.  So excited.

Didn't they have a FTP version that sucked giant wangs? I didn't like the co-op focus in OMD2 either

The FTP one is the one that just hit beta

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

I think the reason why some nerds want games to be considered art or on par with classic movies is so they can mentally justify why they wasted a significant percentage of the prime years of their lives on vidya.

Just own it.  Don't try to intellectualize it by rationalizing how you spent your weekend nights as a teenager playing games instead of fumbling to try to get some girl's bra off at a bonfire party.

[CatsCatsCats]

Majoras Mask was trash couldn't even finish it

[mormapope]

I think the reason why some nerds want games to be considered art or on par with classic movies is so they can mentally justify why they wasted a significant percentage of the prime years of their lives on vidya.

Just own it.  Don't try to intellectualize it by rationalizing how you spent your weekend nights as a teenager playing games instead of fumbling to try to get some girl's bra off at a bonfire party.

I view art as anything and everything. Something being art doesn't mean its good or has good qualities.

WWE is art, videogames are art, some homeless dude puking blood and shitting in a pizza box is art.

[pilonv1]

Tower Defense is the best genre. Especially any genre blends on it ala Sanctum or Orcs Must Die.

The new Orcs Must Die just hit beta.  So excited.

Didn't they have a FTP version that sucked giant wangs? I didn't like the co-op focus in OMD2 either

The FTP one is the one that just hit beta

I thought it was out already, remember reading something about it on QT3. Might check it out then

[recursivelyenumerable]

I think the reason why some nerds want games to be considered art or on par with classic movies is so they can mentally justify why they wasted a significant percentage of the prime years of their lives on vidya.

Just own it.  Don't try to intellectualize it by rationalizing how you spent your weekend nights as a teenager playing games instead of fumbling to try to get some girl's bra off at a bonfire party.

history is on our side; we will dig you in (already have, really); get over it

[Huff]

I don't even understand why people argue about vidya. Even y'all tards are going at it