What will California look like in 2035?

[Eschaton]

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/apr/01/california-governor-orders-mandatory-water-restrictions-drought

and more importantly, where will you californians move to. idaho? perhaps wyoming? the dakotas?

[Am_I_Anonymous]

imo

[octopushover]

[Great Rumbler]

Dust Bowl II: This Time It's Personal

[Am_I_Anonymous]

[Joe Molotov]

Lord Humungous for Governor and/or Ayatollah of Rock and Rolla of California.



He will end all your pain and suffering.

[Am_I_Anonymous]

Arnold could fill that role perfectly.

[Am_I_Anonymous]

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the more mexicans come through and the tighter controls on water get, the more the nigel hipster techbubble companies and dudes will leave for greener pastures imo.

They already are. Ohio, North Carolina, and Texas seem to be the beneficiaries so far.

[Madrun Badrun]

Fields covered in sun burnt and thirsty Mexicans while a bunch of white Okies yell at them to go home.  So basically not a lot will change. 

[Rufus]

Looking forward to an hour long tangent about this on the next Bombcast.

[Brehvolution]

Or they could desalinate and start draining the Pacific.

[Am_I_Anonymous]

Or they could desalinate and start draining the Pacific.

Dude it's super expensive to desalinate and currently the output would result to about a tear in the bucket.

I love that the entitled fuckers went to ohio and said give us water and we promptly shut the door in their face.

[Eel O'Brian]

Dunno, depends on whether Mr. Luthor can finally get one past Superman.

[Brehvolution]

Or they could desalinate and start draining the Pacific.

Dude it's super expensive to desalinate and currently the output would result to about a tear in the bucket.

Not as expensive as relocating almond groves. Roads and bridges are expensive too.

[Madrun Badrun]

Doesn't drinking blood work the quench thirst?  I can't remember if natives use to do this or if I have seen to many vampire movies.  Either way, it could solve the Mexican question. 

[Madrun Badrun]

Googled it.  Native americans don't drink blood. 

[Eel O'Brian]

now

[Joe Molotov]

Googled it.  Native americans don't drink blood. 

You're thinking of Jews.

[Madrun Badrun]

Well they should stop stealing our water and start up again.

[Am_I_Anonymous]

Googled it.  Native americans don't drink blood. 

You're thinking of Jews.

Negative. The Jews are currently secretly buying water dirt cheap from mexicans and storing it in a private lake for high resale at a later date. Chaos Creates Cash.

[Madrun Badrun]

I don't see why they can't drink blood and hoard water

[Great Rumbler]

why don't they just invent a machine that makes water

[Am_I_Anonymous]

why don't they just invent a machine that makes water

You silly bastard, the only thing that the Jews invented was profit.

[Madrun Badrun]

41 seconds Esch

[Great Rumbler]

Wouldn't the patent on a machine that makes water be worth quite a bit of money in the upcoming dystopian techno-future, though?

[Madrun Badrun]

Patents only make money if the thing that is patented makes money.  I'm really surprised that jews aren't more comfortable with slave labour.  Patent it.  Make slaves do it.  Make more money.

[Nibel]

Probably like this

[Am_I_Anonymous]

That was covered in post #2 complete with a black person.

[ToxicAdam]

It will become like Monaco, because all the filthy poors will have to move away because they can't afford the water/taxes.

[Am_I_Anonymous]

It will become like Monaco, because all the filthy poors will have to move away because they can't afford the water/taxes.

 

Will spend my retirement there then in a pool drinking bottled water while tazering my mexican help and spilling water right in front of them.

[Madrun Badrun]

I don't remember that from the game

[Nibel]

That was covered in post #2 complete with a black person.

7 black persons or bust breh

Probably like this

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I think you mean this

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Gives a whole new meaning to the term 'spitting bars'

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bet you have that on your microsoft zune 16gb somewhere between the wale and chris breezy/tyga collabo albums

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[Kara]

It will become like Monaco, because all the filthy poors will have to move away because they can't afford the water/taxes.

It already is to a large extent.

[Cheddahz]

[Mr. Gundam]

Dry pegging? 

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the more mexicans come through and the tighter controls on water get, the more the nigel hipster techbubble companies and dudes will leave for greener pastures imo.

Stop coming to Seattle goddammit. We don't want to end up like San Francisco more than we already are.

[Kara]

I'd just like to reiterate that dry pegging will only be required to join the Party in the Californian Democratic Republic.

[mormapope]

I'm going to write a fictional story about people migrating from California to other states in the time of need.

I'll call it The Grapes of Wrath 2.

[Kara]

cali as a simulacrum of monaco (Image removed from quote.)

F1 instead of rally racing and bastard x games racing events

LAFC becoming the AS Monaco of the MLS

becoming functionally irrelevant except for suspect banking and gambling

Larry Ellison beginning a California dynasty

The Long Beach Grand Prix used to be a Formula 1 race.

e: Right now we're a bad Switzerland, it's not that much of a leap down. Though I will miss the Tour de California.

[Steve Contra]

It's funny hearing people from out of state talk about this.  California doesn't need California's water, the rest of the country needs California's water.

[Am_I_Anonymous]

It's funny hearing people from out of state talk about this.  California doesn't need California's water, the rest of the country needs California's water.

Fuck your water.

Signed,

The Great Lakes Region

[Tasty]

Fuck the west coast in general.

Sincerely,

The Superior East Coast

[Am_I_Anonymous]

Get off our shit, bitches

http://www.wbez.org/frontandcenter/2011-06-21/great-lakes-face-increasing-pressure-water-world-own-backyard-88159

[Steve Contra]

Yeah I know about the great lakes, but you still don't get what I'm saying which is that California supplies most of the food for the whole country.  Try finding a substitute for that.

[Am_I_Anonymous]

Yeah I know about the great lakes, but you still don't get what I'm saying which is that California supplies most of the food for the whole country.  Try finding a substitute for that.

Don't over evaluate that.

Wisconsin, Kansas, Nebraska, Iowa, Ohio, and Texas could easily throttle up if the money is there.

[Kara]

California won't have a drought as long as I have tear ducts.

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[Am_I_Anonymous]

Don't over evaluate that.

Wisconsin, Kansas, Nebraska, Iowa, Ohio, and Texas could easily throttle up if the money is there.

Nah, I mentioned the farming aspect of Cali in here a little but it's absolutely undeniable that we can't really lose Cali as a food producer. ~50+% of our fruits, veggies and nuts come from there. a lot of stuff we eat here is unique to cali too iirc.

Which is why ultimately the people will get the shaft IMO (Image removed from quote.)

Wisconsin could pick up dairy in a second.

Ohio and Texas: Beef Cattle

The rest could do the veggies....


Fruit though, we fucked cause Florida sucks.

[Mr. Gundam]

Fuck the west coast in general.

Sincerely,

The Superior East Coast

That's cute.

PNW.

P.S. Go away, California.

[Am_I_Anonymous]

Wisconsin could pick up dairy in a second.

Ohio and Texas: Beef Cattle

The rest could do the veggies....


Fruit though, we fucked cause Florida sucks.

There's a lot of arable land here in the United States, but it aint really that simple

I don't make a habit of downplaying human adaptation/innovation but losing Cali as a producer would be huge. In the short term, the price of fresh food would go up massively just because of the sheer amount of produce they create. You'd also be forced to actually deal with seasonality wrt some crops as well, because Cali can grow year round. What other states can you do that in... Not many.

I'm not saying it's advisable I'm saying if an earthquake put cali in the ocean we would survive. Let's not act they are America to our North Korea my friend.

[Steve Contra]

Wisconsin could pick up dairy in a second.

Ohio and Texas: Beef Cattle

The rest could do the veggies....


Fruit though, we fucked cause Florida sucks.

There's a lot of arable land here in the United States, but it aint really that simple

I don't make a habit of downplaying human adaptation/innovation but losing Cali as a producer would be huge. In the short term, the price of fresh food would go up massively just because of the sheer amount of produce they create. You'd also be forced to actually deal with seasonality wrt some crops as well, because Cali can grow year round. What other states can you do that in... Not many.

This is it.  It's cute to think that California isn't the underpinning of the whole way Americans eat, but it's not reality.  Sure if you want to eat potatoes and onions for 8 months out the year you can do it, but there's no substitute.

[Am_I_Anonymous]

Wisconsin could pick up dairy in a second.

Ohio and Texas: Beef Cattle

The rest could do the veggies....


Fruit though, we fucked cause Florida sucks.

There's a lot of arable land here in the United States, but it aint really that simple

I don't make a habit of downplaying human adaptation/innovation but losing Cali as a producer would be huge. In the short term, the price of fresh food would go up massively just because of the sheer amount of produce they create. You'd also be forced to actually deal with seasonality wrt some crops as well, because Cali can grow year round. What other states can you do that in... Not many.

This is it.  It's cute to think that California isn't the underpinning of the whole way Americans eat, but it's not reality.  Sure if you want to eat potatoes and onions for 8 months out the year you can do it, but there's no substitute.

Yes because nobody in the entire world can grow potatoes or onions.

[Steve Contra]

Uh, I mean if you want to eat nothing but potatoes and onion you can survive without California.  The green stuff though?

[Am_I_Anonymous]

Uh, I mean if you want to eat nothing but potatoes and onion you can survive without California.  The green stuff though?

Beans? Corn? Soybeans?  Etc? All grown in ohio.

Yes the winter months would suck at first but that's what South America and Africa are for.

[Kara]

The agri thing is missing the bigger issue, the collapse of an economy the size of India's (give or take) won't be nbd. Who's going to finance the Great Eastward Migrating when a fuckton of wealth is wiped out? This ain't 1934, no FDR going to create a whole new fun and exciting bureaucracy.

[Am_I_Anonymous]

I was just talking about a gradual drop off in production but if an earthquake/nukes/some other disaster were to put cali in the hole and their production was to immediately stop we'd be absolutely fucked. Food prices on fresh produce would skyrocket, it'd ruin our economy for years honestly.

I don't think we'd run into immediate nutritional deficiencies because of food stores and supplementation but just based on the overall diversity of stuff coming from Cali our table would change immensely overnight.

You know I actually learned something relevant to this. A buddy of mine grows corn on his farms for the government for bio fuel.

there is a part in his contact that specifically speaks about what to do in the event of a disaster. For once our government actually has a plan.

[Am_I_Anonymous]

The agri thing is missing the bigger issue, the collapse of an economy the size of India's (give or take) won't be nbd. Who's going to finance the Great Eastward Migrating when a fuckton of wealth is wiped out? This ain't 1934, no FDR going to create a whole new fun and exciting bureaucracy.

Who says we'd want you anyway? I hear Mexico is nice in December.

[Am_I_Anonymous]

I did work for California once. They gave me an IOU....wish I was kidding.

That economy already fucked.

Actually middle California is okay to come on over...North Cali and LA down can fuck right off.

[jakefromstatefarm]

Not an expert, but if the current state tax and the stratospheric cost of living aren't incentive enough to drive people of of cali...

[Am_I_Anonymous]

Not an expert, but if the current state tax and the stratospheric cost of living aren't incentive enough to drive people of of cali...

Actually it's more feasible to survive in California than a great lakes state in terms of employment.

[Steve Contra]

My biggest takeaway from this whole drought thing is that a lot of my conservative friends in the middle of the country think of California as some economically stunted bastard child and not an behemoth that would wreck the country if it went down.

[Am_I_Anonymous]

My biggest takeaway from this whole drought thing is that a lot of my conservative friends in the middle of the country think of California as some economically stunted bastard child and not an behemoth that would wreck the country if it went down.

And what I think is typical liberal California's think they carry our economy on their shoulders.