What will California look like in 2035?

[Tasty]

So like, why isn't there a water pipeline like that oil one Obummer vetoed. Like, one that went across the entire US.

[Kara]

From my perspective it's simply an integration issue. Look how crises in places like Italy, Spain or Greece blew up and none of those areas has a Hollywood or Silicon Valley.

Hell, if you really want to scare yourself look at the breakdown of a municipal bond fund in a prospectus.

[Steve Contra]

My biggest takeaway from this whole drought thing is that a lot of my conservative friends in the middle of the country think of California as some economically stunted bastard child and not an behemoth that would wreck the country if it went down.

I like to think of you as the state equivalent of JP Morgan and BoA combined

This get's pretty close to the truth.  And yeah, when your largest economy is also your largest (by far) food supplier the drought is kind of a big deal.  I expect everyone to kick the can down the road though in favor of keeping the farmers happy.

[I'm a Puppy!]

I just heard Yosemite announce that the snow pack in one of their areas is 2% of average. 2%! If it was a politician it'd be republican.

[Tasty]

For many of the same reasons why there isn't an oil one. It would be disastrous to freshwater ecology.

I don't think that's why the oil one didn't happen....

[Kara]

My biggest takeaway from this whole drought thing is that a lot of my conservative friends in the middle of the country think of California as some economically stunted bastard child and not an behemoth that would wreck the country if it went down.

I like to think of you as the state equivalent of JP Morgan and BoA combined

Bank of America is the bank our state government uses.

We could have had our own state bank if Moonbeam hadn't vetoed a bill to set up a completely useless fact finding mission about creating a state bank. Does he think the bear and red star on our flag are just for show?

[Kara]

On the tour of the state capitol they also show you Bank of America's (then Bank of Italy) original incorporation paperwork too.

If I think of any other pointless information I'll be sure to yak it up itt, don't worry.

[thisismyusername]

It's funny hearing people from out of state talk about this.  California doesn't need California's water, the rest of the country needs California's water.

...Okay? If that was true, why the mandated rations?

(Yes, I know what you're getting at "LOL CALIFORNIAN AGRICULTURE LOL" but still: Ya'll are pretty fucked)

[Steve Contra]

The mandated rations are a joke, the whole thing is dancing around the fact that any real reform has to come from agri-business.  It's like asking for the deficit to be fixed by cutting non-military discretionary spending.

[Am_I_Anonymous]

The mandated rations are a joke, the whole thing is dancing around the fact that any real reform has to come from agri-business.  It's like asking for the deficit to be fixed by cutting non-military discretionary spending.

If I recall correctly big water bottling companies (coke) are not subject to the mandate right?

[Kara]

Water in California is shared across three main sectors.

Statewide, average water use is roughly 50% environmental, 40% agricultural, and 10% urban. However, the percentage of water use by sector varies dramatically across regions and between wet and dry years. Some of the water used by each of these sectors returns to rivers and groundwater basins, and can be used again.

Environmental water provides multiple benefits.

Environmental water use falls into four categories: water in rivers protected as "wild and scenic” under federal and state laws, water required for maintaining habitat within streams, water that supports wetlands within wildlife preserves, and water needed to maintain water quality for agricultural and urban use. Most water allocated to the environment does not affect other water uses. More than half of California’s environmental water use occurs in rivers along the state’s north coast. These waters are largely isolated from major agricultural and urban areas and cannot be used for other purposes. In the rest of California where water is shared by all three sectors, environmental use is not dominant (33%, compared to 53% agricultural and 14% urban).

[Steve Contra]

Also if I hear one more fucker say something about them releasing water pulses that could be used elsewhere for an endangered species I'm going to choke a bitch.  That's not why they do it.

[brawndolicious]

California's problem is basically that an ounce of water used in California has more actual value in financial terms than if it was used in the Great Lakes. Meaning, we have to dissuade other states from importing so much of our almonds.

The fair, simple, and effective solution is to focus on industrial/agricultural usage of water and not really worry about how long our showers are or whether we have drought tolerant landscaping, as Kara points out, that's a very small slice of the pie.

It makes sense to leave residential water prices alone but charge farmers a higher price for water so that actually affects the demand side of things, causing them to switch to growing crops that are not as thirsty or to pass the extra cost of rice, almonds, etc to the consumer, most of whom live outside of California. And then throw that almond water money into building big ass reservoirs and some gray water recycling facilities. I hope it doesn't sound conceited if I say that our pee is more valuable than everyone else's too.

[Great Rumbler]

People who drink almond milk are literally the worst.

[benjipwns]

This thread is literally insane. What is wrong with you people, don't you read the canon?

In 2032, 22 years after 2010 "Great Earthquake", the former cities of Los Angeles, San Diego and Santa Barbara have merged into a pseudo-utopian San Angeles, under the pseudo-pacifist guidance and control of a Dr. Raymond Cocteau. Weapons and vices are outlawed, human behavior is regulated, citizens carry implanted transceivers, and in the resulting absence of any violent crime, the San Angeles Police (SAPD) has lost any ability to handle violent behavior of any kind.

Phoenix is awakened for a parole hearing, kills the warden, armed guards, and several peace officers, demonstrating superhuman abilities and martial arts skills. Veteran officer Zachary Lamb suggests that Spartan be revived and reinstated to the force to help them capture Phoenix. Lieutenant Lenina Huxley is assigned to assist Spartan in his transition, despite the reluctance of Capt. George Earle, the SAPD Chief of Police, who takes an immediate dislike to him.

[Phoenix Dark]

[chronovore]

It will become like Monaco, because all the filthy poors will have to move away because they can't afford the water/taxes.

 

Will spend my retirement there then in a pool drinking bottled water while tazering my mexican help and spilling water right in front of them.

[Mr. Gundam]

This thread is literally insane. What is wrong with you people, don't you read the canon?

In 2032, 22 years after 2010 "Great Earthquake", the former cities of Los Angeles, San Diego and Santa Barbara have merged into a pseudo-utopian San Angeles, under the pseudo-pacifist guidance and control of a Dr. Raymond Cocteau. Weapons and vices are outlawed, human behavior is regulated, citizens carry implanted transceivers, and in the resulting absence of any violent crime, the San Angeles Police (SAPD) has lost any ability to handle violent behavior of any kind.

Phoenix is awakened for a parole hearing, kills the warden, armed guards, and several peace officers, demonstrating superhuman abilities and martial arts skills. Veteran officer Zachary Lamb suggests that Spartan be revived and reinstated to the force to help them capture Phoenix. Lieutenant Lenina Huxley is assigned to assist Spartan in his transition, despite the reluctance of Capt. George Earle, the SAPD Chief of Police, who takes an immediate dislike to him.

You forgot the best part. ALL RESTAURANTS ARE NOW TACO BELL.

[I'm a Puppy!]

I ain't even mad.