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Re: Sony E3 2015
« Reply #240 on: June 16, 2015, 03:03:10 AM »
At this point DOTA 3 will be a thing before Half Life 3.

Valve doesn't make games, they just make money.

Also announcing a Shen Mue KS during your press conference is lame. I mean I already thought KS was completely ruined but that just took it up another notch.
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« Reply #241 on: June 16, 2015, 03:06:21 AM »
Sony
Ubisoft
EA =  MS
Bethesda

in order.

Worst to best? :smug

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« Reply #242 on: June 16, 2015, 03:27:48 AM »
Pretty solid time to be a gamer.

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« Reply #243 on: June 16, 2015, 04:18:23 AM »
Anyway just some general thoughts.

That Horizon game looked fantastic. Guerrilla has always been amazing at art and tech(not so much dialogue but hey) and this game didn't disappoint. The switch to gameplay was pretty much a hell yeah moment when it comes to graphics. Yet, the actual gameplay didn't look shit. Loved the scale and it didn't seem that aimless. The game itself just seems so strange and kind of unique that it's exciting.

TLG was scripted sure, but it still brought the feels. Honestly, nothing said to me that it's going to be this fresh experience that SOTC was. It simply looked like a perfect mix between SOTC and ICO. Loved the scale though and the subtle painted look. Great artistry there.

Street Fighter looked great, but not much else to say.

That Hitman trailer was incredibly stylish.

Kind of tired of No Man Sky. It  looks cool yes, and has obviously started this exploration co op genre that seems to be taking over. I'll certainly play it when it comes out.

Call of Duty kind of looked ugly graphically, especially after AW. Though it seems to continue the more open gameplay. It's like CoD has become more Halo as Halo became more CoD.

FINAL FUCKING FANTASY VII. What an awesome CG reveal!

Assassin's Creed looked as generic as possible.  Fuck Ubisoft.

World of Final Fantasy, well I don't know what this is but hey another console jrpg cool.

Liked how Project Morpheus' showing was restrained. It actually may have some solid software. Nothing amazing, but maybe some nifty things. That Guerrilla game may be decent.

That Batman stuff was stupid.

Star Wars single player or whatever had fantastic graphics, kind of boring though. DICE sucks at pve stuff. Even if they introduce cool player mechanics, their answer to having you make use of them will just be "throw more enemies at you" with really no interesting senererio design work. Still, I guess it looked nice.

New MM game could be something I guess....

That was a cool montage. Playstation just has a lot of cool stuff coming.

Uncharrted looked really good.

This really was the strongest Sony conference in years. Strong ebcause of the actual games, and not because of other announcements. The pacing was great. Lots of good looking games. Lots of different games.

MS kind of bored me. It was the same tired franchisees, plus TR not at all proving it's more then "cinematic game number 50". I mean I'm fine with those games, but it dosen't excite me. Halo 5 looks nice, but that single player demo was nothing, but dudes walking while explosions happen. Gears was dudes walking and playing Gears like no actual person does. Fable was Fable so crap. Add Foreza and you have your typical MS lineup. It's boring. The new game from Kenji could be cool, but thats something you need an actual gameplay trailer for. The indie stuff looked ok, but a lot of those are big question marks and seem like trend followers and not trend setters.

Sony was just really good.

I didn't really care about Bethesda. I don't give a fuck about Fallout. Doom looked well like a modern doom though the melee looks a bit overpowerd. Dishoonerd 2 is cool I guess.

Did'nt watch EA's or Ubisofts.
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« Reply #244 on: June 16, 2015, 06:16:28 AM »
I mean I already thought KS was completely ruined but that just took it up another notch.

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No different than Tim Shafer using Kickstarter when he didn't really need to. If it means testing for an audience, bring on the kickstarters during press conferences.

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« Reply #245 on: June 16, 2015, 06:20:14 AM »
Did Sony announce anything that's out this year? I'm not watching this shit
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« Reply #246 on: June 16, 2015, 06:27:01 AM »
The Destiny expansion
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« Reply #247 on: June 16, 2015, 06:54:20 AM »
Hard to argue against sony having the best "show", but I'm still no closer to getting one of these boxes than I was before
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« Reply #248 on: June 16, 2015, 06:58:41 AM »
The Destiny expansion
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Right then
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« Reply #249 on: June 16, 2015, 07:12:08 AM »
At this point DOTA 3 will be a thing before Half Life 3.

Already happened.  :pimp

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« Reply #250 on: June 16, 2015, 07:36:58 AM »
Exciting E3 this year.

Bethesda was the winner for me. Fallout 4, Doom, and Dishonored 2 killed it.

Sony next, they really delivered on the JRPG nostalgia, Horizon looked great, and TLG finally.

Ubisoft had a solid showing, For Honor looked good.

MS had a good show although I'm still not sold on an Xbox. I play multiplats on PC and never cared enough about Halo/Forza/Gears. Maybe Quantum Break and Scalebound will impress, although I assume QB will hit PC like Alan Wake.

EA um yeah, better luck next year. The Mass Effect trailer was the only thing worth watching to me and it was at the start of the conference.

Nintendo I'm not expecting much from. Show me a hype Platinum developed Star Fox trailer, maybe announce Mario Galaxy 3 and a new Advance Wars or something, and I'll be set.

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« Reply #251 on: June 16, 2015, 08:13:27 AM »
real talk. I would have been on my knees if ff7 was a real gameplay demo even if for just 10 sec instead of that awful cg.

as for the rest of the show, horizon was good though I don't fancy euro open world games much and uncharted still looking good.

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« Reply #252 on: June 16, 2015, 08:16:29 AM »
everywhere i go people ask me when shenmue 3 will be released, and i tell them, even Sony wont spare me two million dollars, so when do you think, baka gaijin?

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« Reply #253 on: June 16, 2015, 09:20:23 AM »
Sony delivered to Playstation fans exactly what they know they want-more Playstation. They aren't trying to do anything more grand or bigger than to serve those users.

I thought the whole thing was really unambitious myself. Everyone seems to be doing something interesting but not Sony, which more or less seems to be doing the same thing they were doing 20 years ago, and in some cases in their conference the same thing as  quite literally 20 years ago.

I mean even Nintendo is trying to move forward more than Sony is.

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They've always been quick to ditch stuff, surprised they stuck by the Vita as long as they did. Anyone thinking about buying a Morpheus ought to take a look at the PSeye and Move game libraries before dropping dollars.

You have to be absolutely fucking crazy to buy into Morpheus at release, agreed.
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« Reply #254 on: June 16, 2015, 09:31:46 AM »
Uuh Frag come on that's some nonsense.

Sony is making Morpheus, bringing loads of new IP's etc.

Nintendo is still figuring out how to make an online shooter in 2015.

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« Reply #255 on: June 16, 2015, 09:36:49 AM »
I mean I'd expect a post like that from me or MCD but not you. It's just that I think you are such a smart guy it's so disappointing to see you post that.

How is Nintendo moving forward and Sony not?

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« Reply #256 on: June 16, 2015, 09:38:51 AM »
Maybe I just trolled by a GAF repost from Frag.

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« Reply #257 on: June 16, 2015, 10:00:31 AM »
The only thing that was remotely novel in last night's conference by Sony was the Media Molecule game, and that was really hard to pin down exactly how they were expecting to make a game out of it. But I'll grant you at least they were trying there. If you're making the same games as before, but with new IPs, is that really moving forward? I'd argue not really. The connected and social experience isn't there whereas on the PC and with MS it was front and center.

Everything else was revisiting the past and mining nostalgia as hard as possible for a fanbase that is OK with it.

Nintendo is stepping out of their comfort zone with NX to some degree it looks like? The WiiU experiment needs to go the way of Ol' Yeller but at least in between reaping money in the most cynical and plastic way from their manchild fanbase they are trying to relevant to modern gaming trends in NX, from at least what I've read about it.

Morpheus not adopting OpenVR is very alarming and between that fact and Sony's historically terrible support for their add-on hardware you can't really take their VR platform very seriously.
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« Reply #258 on: June 16, 2015, 10:11:47 AM »
nintendo's bar for moving forward is also set extremely low.

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« Reply #259 on: June 16, 2015, 10:20:20 AM »
To some extent I can see what you are getting at but we haven't seen anything from Nintendo really to say what they are doing. Let us not forget either they are a decade behind so applauding them for getting with the times (maybe) is a bit much.

What MS social stuff are you talking about? Fantasy nfl football? I don't know cause I don't know anyone with an xbox. That's not a jibe just reality in most of the world. Sony games like Last ot Us and Driveclub have some cool and original FB integration if this the kind of stuff you mean?

As for Sony Im not saying they are at the forefront, but they are definately up there compared to MS and Nintendo. You may not like Morpheus because its propriarty but im sure it will have better support then MS Kinect on xbone. Talk about terrible support and there is something much worse than Sony has done recently. I mean Kinect was a pillar of xbone anr now its gone. 

What happened to all the MS buzzwords like Cloud etc? MS has regressed in the last few years, we had Windows7 and 360 which were great now we have Xbone and W8 that suck. How is that progress?
 
Look Morpheus might turn out a turd sure, but its exciting and real where as I don't see anything from MS or Nintendo like that, just smoke and mirrors.

Sony is also the home for indy games on consoles thanks to MS policies.
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« Reply #260 on: June 16, 2015, 10:55:09 AM »
I don't really understand why you're trying so hard to argue this Lager. I don't think Frag is approaching this from the same vantage point as most console gaming fans are. So I don't know how invested you need to be in rebutting his points. What he's arguing isn't that controversial. It seems transparently clear (to me at least) that Sony's success this gen has almost nothing to do with meaningful innovation and everything to do with simply not shitting the bed like the competition did. For the most part, they played it safe and released pretty boring tech, but that's all it took. It wasn't overpriced, it was more powerful than the other console competitors, it didn't waste time on niche features most people didn't want. Basically, it was "good enough."

And this E3 really knocked it out of the park... for nostalgic console gaming fans. Really, I can't deny how exciting that presentation was last night. Every silly fantasy that console gamers have clamored for but been laughed at as dead pipe dreams was pulled out of the hat last night. But if you haven't been clinging to these dreams for ten years, it's not going to be as exciting.

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« Reply #261 on: June 16, 2015, 11:02:05 AM »
Last Guardian re-revealed.

FF7 remake and Shenmue 3 announced.

Oscar says more positive things about a console manufacturer's press conference than most boreans.

Last night really was some world-changing shit.

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« Reply #262 on: June 16, 2015, 11:21:23 AM »
I know from which angle frag is coming and I still think he is giving giving ms and nintendo way too much credit for nothing.

Sony isnt changing the world but its not eons behind like nintendo or trying to shove some Trojan horse shit like ms did.

They gave the people what they wanted plus a little bit more with vr, Ill take that over the grand ill fated visions of ms or nintendos fumblings in the dark.

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« Reply #263 on: June 16, 2015, 12:20:54 PM »
I've only watched the MS and Sony conferences and I serioulsy couldn't give a shit about anything either of them had to show...... I just don't fucking care anymore

I'm officially too old now
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« Reply #264 on: June 16, 2015, 12:58:16 PM »
Hey, I'm in the target market for what Sony was offering so I'm thrilled. Not everything needs to be an all-new paradigm-shifting machine for it to be successful.

Also it seems that a lot of people complaining how 'safe' Sony is were the same people complaining back in the day about the Wii and DS :P
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« Reply #265 on: June 16, 2015, 02:04:18 PM »
Gotta hand it to Sony, it was a masterful stroke to leverage three of the most pipe dreams titles of recent years, guaranteed to feed the flames of the "hardcore gamer". All that without commiting to any gameplay (or 6 years old one at best), actual design goals, releases dates or even expenses since Shenmue 3 will be produced partly upfront by fool's money. They've certainly won E3.
Will that amount to anything in the grand scheme of actually moving systems, who knows ?

It's a bit of a moot point to discuss the Sony strategy there based on those conferences, all this is just publicity.
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« Reply #266 on: June 16, 2015, 02:08:01 PM »
I realize we live in a world where the biggest banks handed out subprime mortgages like they were certificates of deposit, but if announcing a Team ICO game, a sequel to one of the great video game commercial failures, and giving Guerrilla "we make bad games" Games the freedom to make a new IP in 2015 is playing it safe you're either daft af or the reason why you're legally prohibited from buying on margin more than 50%.

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« Reply #267 on: June 16, 2015, 02:13:56 PM »
Don't get me wrong, there's obviously a big market for what Sony is doing. It just doesn't have broader appeal outside of the existing (happy) Playstation owners.

Also I almost certainly did give nintendo too much credit here-I don't know much about the NX but I am probably assuming its way less progressive than it's actually going to turn out to be.But that doesn't mean that what I said about Sony isn't on point.

Microsoft's not innocent of the same crap (Gears of War is boring/stupid; who in the flying fuck wants to play Snake Rattle 'n' Roll, that Rare collection is a steaming pile of googly-eyed garbage for the nostalgia monkeys) but at least they had stuff like Hololens, a credible VR solution based on follow-the-leader and leading API compatibility, and a couple of online games with service models instead of the (IMO bankrupt and decadent) AAA blockbuster-and-done.

So I probably gave MS too much credit earlier, but again at least they are trying to go somewhere. Sony's big intro was a giant fur shaded rat thing and a 9 or 10 year old kid that kept yelling, I was wondering if the demo would put allow you to put sock in his mouth so I didn't have to keep hearing him yell like some spoiled brat in a Wal-Mart toy aisle.

edit; disclaimer, like the half of this board I am a horrible jaded person
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« Reply #268 on: June 16, 2015, 02:18:18 PM »
Well, brand image does not a strategy make.
To be honest I don't think those first party efforts are really all that important in the big picture for Sony, apart maybe the gross mismanagement of the Gran Turismo franchise.
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« Reply #269 on: June 16, 2015, 02:59:03 PM »
Hmm, I think Hololens is gonna end up being another smoke and mirrors situation not unlike Kinect, and if it ever makes it to a commercial product, will be rife with issues and shitty gimmicks.

And I'm not a big fan of the software-as-a-service paradigm for game creation. Sure it makes companies money hand-over-fist but I'm usually a 'one and done' kinda guy with my game consumption.

Not to mention I don't think VR will be nearly as successful as people are hoping.

So I guess its interesting how MS is trying to change up things but none of the things really jive with the way I play games. But I'm a dying breed of gamer, who isn't especially financially beneficial for companies to provide for, so whatevs.
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« Reply #271 on: June 16, 2015, 03:39:52 PM »
Persona 5 and Metal Gear Solid 5 :aah

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« Reply #272 on: June 16, 2015, 03:58:10 PM »
keep in mind: hololens seems mostly targeted as a business and general consumer tool, not a videogame peripheral
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« Reply #273 on: June 16, 2015, 04:37:23 PM »


Same one from the JP event, only in EN.
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