The Bore does what NeoGAF doesn't.

[meeb]

Millennials are also fatter than their previous generation counterparts when they were younger.  They are less attractive and live more sedentary lives.

I like fatter men tbh.

[demi]

Always good to see a fellow admirer

[Let's Cyber]

TRIGGERED

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=212293017&postcount=9728

[thisismyusername]

Not asking for much, I just want a beautiful woman to fall square on my dick between matches of Overwatch and episodes of my favorite anime. Anything else is too much effort.

#thedream

[FStop7]

Maybe they have problems with sex because sex is so problematic

It's only a matter of time until the "all sex is rape" Andrea Dworkin crowd gets traction.

[grots]

http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=212137140
 

The first response:

The lefter you go the more pragmatism and commonsense go out the window.

The alt left loves to think class is a bigger issue than race, sexual identity , and other things when it is simply not the case.

I've got to imagine corporations, lobbyists, and democrats must be absolutely fucking loving this shit right now. Doesn't matter what companies do or what money Democrats take and promise as long as they put a rainbow on their twitter account pic or give lip service to social issues.

[benjipwns]

TRIGGERED

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=212293017&postcount=9728

(Image removed from quote.)

Oh for fuck sakes. So sick of their self-defensive "I must be a SEEEEXIST" jokes. It's not funny in light of the other shit going on towards the cast.

I can't help but say that this video itself was not needed at all. I mean sure these feminists certainly painted their picture with a really fucking large brush but I'm not so sure that's even a problem compared to what actually happened.

After thinking about this whole thing for a few minutes I genuinely feel like they just fell in the same pit they were criticizing. They should have moved on, but Mike and Rich have always had a really big hate boner for social justice agendas so they couldn't.

They should of probably drop it, The video seemed really petty.

It does ignore the actual alt-right asshole shit though, so that's where it felt dangerously close to going off the cliff.

[benjipwns]

lol at that article he links

We can quibble about where it stands in the TV canon, but “Sex and the City” has seven Emmys and a suite of Golden Globes and Screen Actors Guild awards. It ran 94 episodes through six seasons on a premium cable network. Any reasonable person should concede that “Sex and the City” was an above-average television program (at minimum). You don’t need to think it was a perfect show, or even an outstanding one, but I think most people would agree it was better than average.

At least, that’s what I thought until I saw the program’s remarkably poor score according to IMDb’s user ratings when I analyzed the data history of HBO. “Sex and the City” has an overall rating of 7.0 on a scale from 1 to 10 — the average score of an English-language television series with 1,000 or more ratings is 7.3. So why did a show roundly considered seminal in the now ubiquitous genre of driven-New York-women-make-a-go-of-it programming score so low?

Yeah, it’s men.

Nearly 60 percent of the people who rated “Sex and the City” on IMDb are women,1 and looking only at those scores, the show has an 8.1. That’s well above average. Male users, though, who made up just over 40 percent of “Sex and the City” raters, assigned it, on average, a 5.8 rating.

Now, some guy with an egg as a Twitter avatar could argue that shows with female-heavy audiences are lower-quality. I come not to praise “Say Yes to the Dress,” but to bury it. The inherent aesthetic value of “Teen Mom 2” is not on trial this day. But these are obvious cases, and they have equivalents on the male side. I could just as easily have said “The Man Show,” which put Jimmy Kimmel on the map and removed Adam Carolla from it. I could say the same about “Beyblade,” which tried to build an emotional journey anchored by spinning tops. And then there’s “The Angry Video Game Nerd,“ a misogynistic web show whose sycophantic Wikipedia entry made me pine for hemlock in my coffee. Everybody watches crap. Men, women, everybody.

But the data doesn’t support the contention that female-skewed programming is inherently worse: Women gave their top 100 shows, on average, a 7.8 rating, about the same score they gave the top 100 male-dominated programs, 8.0. But here’s where that Twitter egg’s perception might come from: Men gave their top 100 an average score of 8.2 but gave the top 100 female-skewed shows a mere 6.9 average ratings. Shows with more than 10,000 ratings are inherently popular and yet men thought the programs in that group that skew female were below average.

Now, if men didn’t feel compelled to crap on shows that plainly aren’t aimed at them, this might not be a problem.

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

Most gaffers don't understand class issues because they come from well off families.  They don't want to admit that they're part of the problem, that they are....privileged.

[Phoenix Dark]

maybe Sex In The City is trash.

[fistfulofmetal]

The RLM video is dumb and I don't understand why they bothered making it. They're making a none point about a bad movie nobody will care about in 6 months. Seems like a waste of time.

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

I wish life was so easy for me that I could spend hours whining about IMDB ratings.  Must be nice

[benjipwns]

maybe Sex In The City is trash.

Any reasonable person should concede that “Sex and the City” was an above-average television program (at minimum).

AT

MINIMUM

[mormapope]

The RLM video is dumb and I don't understand why they bothered making it. They're making a none point about a bad movie nobody will care about in 6 months. Seems like a waste of time.

They showed how people behind the movie used confirmation bias to sell the narrative that there was some sort of massive misogynistic backlash. The amount of sites and media things that covered Ghostbusters and how misogyny was running rampant amounted to be being a lot of bullshit. 

[Stoney Mason]

RLM are good at making funny videos. They are good at making movie analysis videos. They are less good at analyzing society in general or larger cultural issues.

I say this having not seen the new movie nor caring if its better or worse than the old one.

[Phoenix Dark]

Ghostbusters is (probably) trash, Sex In The City was meh that doesn't age well, Girls is trash, Amy Shumer isn't funny. You can hate that shit and still be cool in my book.

However if you think Skylar was a terrible character in Breaking Bad, or that Carmella was terrible in The Sopranos, you're 99% certainly a trash person with no redeeming qualities.
 

[stufte]

Ghostbusters is (probably) trash, Sex In The City was meh that doesn't age well, Girls is trash, Amy Shumer isn't funny. You can hate that shit and still be cool in my book.

However if you think Skylar was a terrible character in Breaking Bad, or that Carmella was terrible in The Sopranos, you're 99% certainly a trash person with no redeeming qualities.
 

Skylar was a great character, but man, was she easy to hate. I mean, just get out of your meth kingpin husbands way already you bitch!

[mormapope]

Breaking Bad doesn't have great characters to begin with 

It amounted to being the Walt and Jessie hour with great antagonists at times, while all the other supporting characters were one dimensional or barely used. Breaking Bad is a great show stylistically but pretty shallow regarding substance.

[benjipwns]

Ghostbusters is (probably) trash, Sex In The City was meh that doesn't age well, Girls is trash, Amy Shumer isn't funny. You can hate that shit and still be cool in my book.

Those things clearly aren't for you, so forcing your negative opinion of them on others against their consent is a highly problematic and toxic attempt at appropriating a differing culture simply to bring it down. To hold it down. Suppress its voice. You're literally raping people who objectively enjoy these things.

[benjipwns]

mods help

this is supposed to be a safe space

[Tasty]

What's the IMDB rating and gender breakdown for Entourage?

[Tasty]

Where's the Golden Girls reboot with an all-male cast?

[mormapope]

Samantha was hot as fuck though.

Definitely influenced my taste in milfs/mature women.

[mormapope]

I was able to stomach some Sex and the City episodes as a younger lad. I couldn't do the same with Entourage when around that same age. Entourage is a lot dumber.

[FStop7]

I couldn't handle Entourage because Jeremy Piven is a twit in real life and unconvincing as fuck as an adaptation of Ari Emanuel.

[I'm a Puppy!]

Ghostbusters is (probably) trash, Sex In The City was meh that doesn't age well, Girls is trash, Amy Shumer isn't funny. You can hate that shit and still be cool in my book.

However if you think Skylar was a terrible character in Breaking Bad, or that Carmella was terrible in The Sopranos, you're 99% certainly a trash person with no redeeming qualities.
 

So you're not only a sexist. You're a sexist with bad tastes in the female characters in major shows.

[Phoenix Dark]

Entourage is definitely trash.

IMBD Wars is definitely something I did not foresee. Honestly the only times I visit the site is when I'm trying to figure out where I saw an actor/actress I vaguely recognize.

[Let's Cyber]

They showed how people behind the movie used confirmation bias to sell the narrative that there was some sort of massive misogynistic backlash. The amount of sites and media things that covered Ghostbusters and how misogyny was running rampant amounted to be being a lot of bullshit.

Exactly. 

Some GAFers are so obsessed and emotionally invested in the movie equivalent of processed cheese that they lack the perspective to understand how unironically kitschy it is to pretend an average, forgettable comedy movie is some kind of pro-women's movement.  Like you said, the point of that RLM video is that Sony was more than happy to try and run with the whole misogynist angle for free publicity to make a buck.  Ghostbusters is only there to make a profit and the idea that seeing the movie was in some way a middle finger to MRAs or whatever was pure marketing. 

The lesson here is don't try to tie the legitimacy of real social issues to pop culture trash.  Unfortunately for NeoGAF.com members, their most meaningful contribution to society is the fact they consume.  Meaning they have to pretend the stupid shit they buy/watch/listen too is important for social change in some way because that is the only outlet they have. 

spoiler (click to show/hide)

Anyone triggered by that video can

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[Stoney Mason]

I don't think they proved anything. I think that video is as conspiratorial as the conspiracy they are trying to out. The only saving grace is that as always they present everything with a wink and a nod so I honestly don't think its supposed to be taken super seriously.

Once again I like the guys. I like their reviews. But that video was not a great piece of social analysis. I believe they legit don't like the movie because they think it sucks. Which is kind of all that is necessary. But the rest of it, meh.

[toku]

imagine a world where things weren't constantly being sold to you and your children

[Tasty]

For me, I was turned off the Ghostbusters 2016 "movement" when James Rolfe presented his opinion of the original and how he's not interested in seeing the new one, and he got raked over the coals for it.

Literally the nicest personality online and people wanted his head for something so mild. Stopped following the backlash/counter-backlash after that.



Also made a great, in-depth video about the development hell Ghostbusters 3 went through over the decades. Super interesting stuff.

[Let's Cyber]

MODS HELP

[helios]

For me, I was turned off the Ghostbusters 2016 "movement" when James Rolfe presented his opinion of the original and how he's not interested in seeing the new one, and he got raked over the coals for it.

I still don't know why he got bashed for this. Some people even called him sexist because he didn't want to see it.

[thisismyusername]

mods help

.

Edit: GODDAMN IT, 21337.

Where's the Golden Girls reboot with an all-male cast?

You know, if they did that and kept the shade while having it be straight men, I'd probably watch it. No lie.

[Tasty]

Golden Guys

Thank you for bein' a bro
Drinking whiskey and bangin' hoes
Your lats are great
You're a bud and a beer-savant

[I'm a Puppy!]

Fuck you tasty. I was in a meeting and everyone's wondering why I'm laughing like a moron

[Tasty]

Fuck you tasty. I was in a meeting and everyone's wondering why I'm laughing like a moron

 

[Dennis]

Do we hate Red Letter Media now?

[Atramental]

Over my dead body. 

RLM is one of the few things that brings me joy in my wagecuck life.  :'(

[Jansen]

Watching the BvS UC and I literally LOLed at the scene of Batman taking a shower and a shot of his bare ass.

No one pulled Snyder to the side and asked him WTF is he doing? I mean, I could see a scene like that for Harley and Poison Ivy (if she shows up) because sex appeal is part of their character, but Batman?

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=212320476&postcount=2757

[helios]

For me, I was turned off the Ghostbusters 2016 "movement" when James Rolfe presented his opinion of the original and how he's not interested in seeing the new one, and he got raked over the coals for it.

I still don't know why he got bashed for this. Some people even called him sexist because he didn't want to see it.

Not some, most. They tried to make him the face of the "Man children who hate Ghostbusters because they actually hate women", to the point where they've been harassing him nearly as much as haters on the other side were harassing Leslie Jones. It's damn near impossible to find anything on AVGN in the last month that doesn't call him "entitled", "sexist", "immature", "bigoted", or something similar, all because he made a video calmly explaining why he didn't want to see Ghostbusters after being asked about it by his fan base for months. And it came down to nothing about women specifically, but that he didn't want to see a reboot of a series that basically inspired him to be creative and make his own movies.

That's where I get the disconnect. I'm trying to find a legit reason for all of this instead of seeing that there was just an agenda. Thanks for clearing it up.

[D3RANG3D]

If you think "MRA's" get shit for not towing the line, women/insert minority group here that don't get it worse.

[Dennis]

Comic Book Girl 19 really hates all the reboots and remakes.

And she thinks this movie sucks.

But she also calls out feminists for being played by Sony marketing so that probably made them mad as hell at being essential called useful idiots.

[helios]

Yeah, Rolfe is a pretty big Ghostbusters fan. And his reasons for not wanting to watch it were not controversial I found. I just thought that a video wasn't necessary. Maybe he wasn't aware of the shitstorm brewing online about it, but I get that he made a video to address his fans.

The weirdest one is people attacking comicbookgirl19 or whatever her name was for defending him and calling the movie trash. Whatever the "Uncle Tom" equivalent of women is, they saw her as that.

Dude makes like 100 videos a year, spends most of his life editing videos, plus is a father of at least one small child. I doubt he has time to be reading think pieces on blogs or delving into forums to talk specifically about Ghostbusters 3. He's also like 30 something and who the fuck gives a shit about any of this stuff when you're an adult with a job and responsibilities?

He has a kid? What an entitled manchild.

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

The only thing about that shitty movie I didn't like is that people were incentivized to roll over and give a positive review to avoid a social media shitstorm.  It's definitely going to happen for other movies moving forward.  Not that I expect movie reviewers to have any dignity but grow a backbone FFS.

[headwalk]

i'm not sure RLM give a toss about social issues. they just really fucking hate sony.

i can empathise.

[zepblackstar]

Sony greenlighted Pixels
fuck them

Sony halfassed its way to marketing it as a feminist film but even that failed once people realized it was a shit movie.

[Stoney Mason]

lol. I'm done on this silly topic.

I'll just say its bullshit that some people can magically say how other people should be reviewing things or magically detect the bias they must be displaying if they disagree with something.

That goes a little bit on both sides. But I definitely don't like it coming from actual movie reviewers who want to judge the motives of other movie reviewers as if their opinions are the only crystal clear pure ones

[octopushover]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=212333846&postcount=184

ladies and gentlemen

the dumbest fucking idiot on the planet

[headwalk]

funnily enough, a lot of the reviews of ghostbusters had the same airy straight to dvd box blurb vaugeries that tim usually comes up with.

though to be fair there probably wasn't much left in the word count after giving three paragraphs to the single most humanity consuming controversy since the iphone 4 antenna.

[octopushover]

no wait no wait

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=212331986&postcount=1

the real dumbest motherfucker on the planet

[Great Rumbler]

no wait no wait

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=212331986&postcount=1

the real dumbest motherfucker on the planet

NO

STOP

[I'm a Puppy!]

no wait no wait

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=212331986&postcount=1

the real dumbest motherfucker on the planet

You know you're dealing with GAF right? You're going to be making these kinds of posts quite often.

[Tasty]

The real dumbest poster ever, via Aeana's Twitter.

http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=212330228

[cityhunter]

Man, gonna be bummed if Suicide Squad isn't great.  I love the shit out of David Ayer.  End of Watch A++++

Then again Sabotage with Arnold got: 20%/17% and I thought it was really good outside of the ending.  David Ayer does dark gritty really well, which is why I'm excited for Suicide Squad.

End of Watch was so good. Really underrated movie.

Margot, even if you movie bombs I want you to know you can always find a home with me.

[VomKriege]

What led you to taking drugs?

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1257135

I remember when I was like 18-20 and I got dumped pretty bad and was just laying around feeling like shit for a long while. I started balding, shaved my head and my self esteem went to shit, etc
then I started playing in a band and doing coke (had barely tried a couple times before) and suddenly I was hooking up with girls cause i'd just be going up to them and talking and being confident
then I built sort of a tolerance for it and the effects just became.. different
I only tell this story cause it's obviously widely demonized but it kinda just pulled me out of that situation without any real harm lookin back on it and being careful

Gonna sound like an old square, but 

Suicide Squad reviews.

I was smart enough to see through DARE when I was 10

[benjipwns]

For me, I was turned off the Ghostbusters 2016 "movement" when James Rolfe presented his opinion of the original and how he's not interested in seeing the new one, and he got raked over the coals for it.

Literally the nicest personality online and people wanted his head for something so mild. Stopped following the backlash/counter-backlash after that.

Uh, did you not read the scientific article about imdb reviews?

And then there’s “The Angry Video Game Nerd,“ a misogynistic web show whose sycophantic Wikipedia entry made me pine for hemlock in my coffee.

Anyway, just because somebody asked and I'm helpless against statistics:
Entourage:

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Males 102033 8.6
Females 14258 7.9
IMDb staff 19 7.9
Top 1000 voters 324 6.5
US users 31396 8.5
Non-US users 63914 8.6
Males Aged 18-29 53052 8.9
Females Aged 18-29 6830 8.0
The Movie:

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Males 43366 6.6
Females 5455 6.4
IMDb staff 7 6.4
Top 1000 voters 245 5.3
US users 9077 6.6
Non-US users 27694 6.5
Males Aged 18-29 22098 6.9
Females Aged 18-29 2792 6.5gators conspiracy confirmed

The Golden Girls:

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Males 10527 7.4
Females 8143 8.3
IMDb staff 7 7.5
Top 1000 voters 298 6.9
US users 9021 8.2
Non-US users 6674 7.3
Males under 18 26 8.7
Females under 18 19 8.4
Males Aged 18-29 2132 7.9
Females Aged 18-29 2545 8.4
Males Aged 45+ 2155 7.4
Females Aged 45+ 1234 8.2
45 YEAR OLD MAN BABIES IN THEIR MOM'S BASEMENT CONFIRMED

(where's the split for gay (9.9)/straight (7.7) )

[WanderingWind]

I mean, if you were still buying into a grown man in giant dog costumes telling you not to smoke reefer and oh, by the way this is what "mary jane" or "the devil's lettuce" looks like at ten, they probably took away your crayons for safety reasons.

[benjipwns]

Red Eye with Greg Gutfeld/Tom Shillue:

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Males 657 7.5
Females 122 8.8


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Females Aged 30-44 49 9.6

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US users 654 8.0
Non-US users 83 5.4


Hannity:

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Males 501 3.5
Females 66 4.0
The Kelly File:

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Males 141 5.4
Females 23 5.0

Males Aged 18-29 39 4.1
Females Aged 18-29 5 1.8
Better Off Ted:

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Males 14516 8.2
Females 4741 8.330 Rock:

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Males 59874 8.2
Females 20770 8.4

Top 1000 voters 340 7.0Parks and Recreation:

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Males 71097 8.6
Females 27826 8.8

Top 1000 voters 324 7.1Futurama:

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Males 106717 8.6
Females 20503 8.3

Top 1000 voters 473 7.7Archer:

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Males 62150 8.8
Females 10151 8.6

Top 1000 voters 285 7.0Curb Your Enthusiasm:

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Males 50582 8.8
Females 7496 8.1

Males Aged 18-29 19130 8.9
Females Aged 18-29 2841 8.3

Males Aged 30-44 25363 8.8
Females Aged 30-44 3415 8.1

Males Aged 45+ 4426 8.2
Females Aged 45+ 997 7.5

Top 1000 voters 285 7.3Arrested Development:

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Males 141342 9.0
Females 35536 8.9

Top 1000 voters 421 7.7Louie:

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Males 42665 8.7
Females 6993 8.3

Top 1000 voters 240 6.9Don't Trust the Bitch in Apartment 23:

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Males 10218 7.1
Females 10367 7.4

Males under 18 48 8.8
Females under 18 80 8.2

Males Aged 18-29 4433 7.2
Females Aged 18-29 6219 7.4

Top 1000 voters 151 6.1Cougar Town:

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Males 16920 6.8
Females 14338 7.3

Males Aged 45+ 1656 6.3
Females Aged 45+ 852 6.4

Top 1000 voters 202 5.4
Always Sunny:

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Males 92399 8.9
Females 19308 8.4

Males Aged 18-29 48986 9.0
Females Aged 18-29 10985 8.6

Males Aged 45+ 4206 7.9
Females Aged 45+ 998 7.2

IMDb staff 15 7.4
Top 1000 voters 300 6.9
The "Top 1000 Voters" must use the entire scale instead of 8-10.

The Eric Andre Show:

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Males 1877 8.6
Females 179 7.8

Males Aged 18-29 1073 8.8
Females Aged 18-29 100 8.5

Males Aged 30-44 579 8.2
Females Aged 30-44 54 6.1

Top 1000 voters 23 6.6

[benjipwns]

Batman v Superman:

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Males 229106 6.9
Females 27843 6.7

Males under 18 3919 7.2
Females under 18 641 7.3
Captain America: Civil War:

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Males 162804 8.1
Females 27793 8.2

Males under 18 3514 8.6
Females under 18 911 8.9
Deadpool:

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Males 293795 8.1
Females 56130 8.2

Males under 18 5042 8.6
Females under 18 1407 8.7
Avengers: Age of Ultron:

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Males 296657 7.4
Females 55069 7.7

Males under 18 5445 7.9
Females under 18 1631 8.4
X-Men: Apocalypse:

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Males 90015 7.2
Females 17390 7.6

Males under 18 1383 7.7
Females under 18 405 8.2
The Avengers:

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Males 661880 8.1
Females 145204 8.3

Males under 18 7447 8.3
Females under 18 2572 8.6
Captain America: The Winter Soldier

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Males 330391 7.7
Females 60917 7.9

Males under 18 5195 8.3
Females under 18 1650 8.6MAN BABIES AFFECTING ALL THESE SCORES, THE FACTS ARE CORRUPT

Females in nearly every age bracket rate Marvel films higher, men in nearly every age bracket rate DC films equal or higher when including the Nolan Trilogy to give it more than a sample of two. All the films rate higher younger.

The Dark Knight (#4), The Dark Knight Rises (#62), Amadeus (#86), Batman Begins (#109), and V For Vendetta (#148 ) are the only comic based movies in the top 150.

Citizen Kane:

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Males under 18 811 8.8shut the fuck up

City Lights:

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Males under 18 494 8.8no rly

Metropolis:

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Males under 18 279 8.6oh come on

The Gold Rush:

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Males under 18 303 8.5stop it