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« Reply #9060 on: December 11, 2015, 12:36:08 PM »
PD is always willing to throw other black people under the bus, so it's not exactly new behavior. But hand waving police getting away with rape especially in the racial context as mere hand wringing is next level PD Carlton-ism. Something that I'm sure he is more than willing to distill as "identity politics" once again.

At some point, people grow to understand that just because a thing happened, it doesn't mean it'll always happen. The same people generally understand that chucking everybody with a similar skin color into the evil bin is, on the face of it, fucking stupid. The current climate has that sort of thought masquerading at progressive and intelligent discourse. Yes, white people have committed atrocities and some continue to do so. Yes, police have gotten away with literal murder. But no, that does not mean - as people were saying - that 13 average white people were chomping at the bit to let go a serial rapist because they shared a like need for sunscreen.

And continue reading this shit flinging going on in the thread. There are people legitimately upset that this verdict went against their preconceived notions. Shows me exactly how few fucks they gave toward the victim, justice or any sense of equality. If that makes PD a Carlton, then might as well call me a fucking race traitor for loving the fact that this guy gets to rot in jail until he's dust.

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« Reply #9061 on: December 11, 2015, 12:36:59 PM »
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=188689274&postcount=33

Mac  :lol

"Enjoying films" those days apparently means getting excited for a ticker of gross revenue :yeshrug

It's an older reference. PD predicted in 2009 that Avatar wouldn't pass $200 million domestically. He was, uh... wrong on that one. Pretty sure he had that as a tag for awhile.

No, he had an avatar of that quote and then James Cameron laughing and then (? or an actor look alike) beating someone over the head with a metal chair.
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« Reply #9062 on: December 11, 2015, 12:48:26 PM »
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=188791055&postcount=1

"Devils Third looks great guys!"

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I dunno man, I'm expecting it to be one of those "so-bad-it's-good" games.  I've been watching some play-throughs and it looks like it's hilariously-cheesy fun, with the only real problem being that it looks like a game that could have been released as an Xbox 360 launch title or something.   :doge

From what I've seen or read, it seems like an average at best game that doesn't have "so bad its good" quality.
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« Reply #9063 on: December 11, 2015, 12:51:17 PM »
Thinking since the jury is white that someone that raped 13 women would get away with it
 :beli :beli :beli :beli :beli :beli :beli

Similar things has happened before.

Except this time. :ufup Ya'll need to stop jumping to conclusions before things happen. Has it happened your way? Yes, does it always happen that way? No. Wait to be morally outraged when the conviction happens.

PD is always willing to throw other black people under the bus, so it's not exactly new behavior. But hand waving police getting away with rape especially in the racial context as mere hand wringing is next level PD Carlton-ism. Something that I'm sure he is more than willing to distill as "identity politics" once again.

At some point, people grow to understand that just because a thing happened, it doesn't mean it'll always happen. The same people generally understand that chucking everybody with a similar skin color into the evil bin is, on the face of it, fucking stupid. The current climate has that sort of thought masquerading at progressive and intelligent discourse. Yes, white people have committed atrocities and some continue to do so. Yes, police have gotten away with literal murder. But no, that does not mean - as people were saying - that 13 average white people were chomping at the bit to let go a serial rapist because they shared a like need for sunscreen.

And continue reading this shit flinging going on in the thread. There are people legitimately upset that this verdict went against their preconceived notions. Shows me exactly how few fucks they gave toward the victim, justice or any sense of equality. If that makes PD a Carlton, then might as well call me a fucking race traitor for loving the fact that this guy gets to rot in jail until he's dust.

Exactly.

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« Reply #9064 on: December 11, 2015, 12:56:27 PM »
To add to that, I'm not one to prop up the justice system and American prisons, but if something looks like an open and shut case, not taking the jury into account, its usually an open and shut case. That's where the conflict lies, is in the "usually" part. But this case would have to be botched in some really weird ways for it not to be a simple "you're going to get your ass reamed" conviction.

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« Reply #9065 on: December 11, 2015, 12:57:44 PM »
PD is always willing to throw other black people under the bus, so it's not exactly new behavior. But hand waving police getting away with rape especially in the racial context as mere hand wringing is next level PD Carlton-ism. Something that I'm sure he is more than willing to distill as "identity politics" once again.

Wasn't aware you post in the BCT. Oh wait you don't so how am I referring to you. And aren't you the white racist who makes ignorant comments about minorities when you aren't pretending to be a progressive? You probably don't even watch good anime either.
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« Reply #9066 on: December 11, 2015, 01:07:29 PM »
MLK was into lolicon.
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« Reply #9067 on: December 11, 2015, 01:39:06 PM »
PD is always willing to throw other black people under the bus, so it's not exactly new behavior. But hand waving police getting away with rape especially in the racial context as mere hand wringing is next level PD Carlton-ism. Something that I'm sure he is more than willing to distill as "identity politics" once again.

At some point, people grow to understand that just because a thing happened, it doesn't mean it'll always happen. The same people generally understand that chucking everybody with a similar skin color into the evil bin is, on the face of it, fucking stupid. The current climate has that sort of thought masquerading at progressive and intelligent discourse. Yes, white people have committed atrocities and some continue to do so. Yes, police have gotten away with literal murder. But no, that does not mean - as people were saying - that 13 average white people were chomping at the bit to let go a serial rapist because they shared a like need for sunscreen.

And continue reading this shit flinging going on in the thread. There are people legitimately upset that this verdict went against their preconceived notions. Shows me exactly how few fucks they gave toward the victim, justice or any sense of equality. If that makes PD a Carlton, then might as well call me a fucking race traitor for loving the fact that this guy gets to rot in jail until he's dust.

Doesn't mean it'll always happen. Sure. True enough. But this is just one case and doesn't take away from the fact that even a judge dismissed a case because a black man was not being judged by his peers. It's a common problem. I'm happy that justice was served, but it's just one case. Justice is not always served.

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/judge-declares-mistrial-police-killing-jonathan-ferrell-n414001
https://www.nytimes.com/books/98/02/08/home/rodney-verdict.html
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/24/us/michael-brelo-cleveland-police-officer-acquitted-of-manslaughter-in-2012-deaths.html

Thank you for whitesplaining and telling people that they have absolute zero reason to doubt a jury not letting a police officer doing awful crimes get away. A cop is going to jail this time though.

Pat yourself on the back. We did it, Adrian!

It seems the crux of the problem is that you have a problem that black people think 12 average white people are willing to let a police officer who raped black women will let him go free. Uh, yeah. That's what many black people think. That may offend you. That may make you uncomfortable. But it's the truth. And history - past and present - backs that truth. Even when discussing justice for black lives, apparently it comes down to what a white person's feelings are.
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Re: The Bore does what NeoGAF doesn't.
« Reply #9068 on: December 11, 2015, 01:44:10 PM »
PD is always willing to throw other black people under the bus, so it's not exactly new behavior. But hand waving police getting away with rape especially in the racial context as mere hand wringing is next level PD Carlton-ism. Something that I'm sure he is more than willing to distill as "identity politics" once again.

Wasn't aware you post in the BCT. Oh wait you don't so how am I referring to you. And aren't you the white racist who makes ignorant comments about minorities when you aren't pretending to be a progressive? You probably don't even watch good anime either.

I had chicken and waffles the other day.

Also, anime is a sin. :doge

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« Reply #9069 on: December 11, 2015, 01:48:21 PM »
Not GAF related but




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It's from this gem. All of this for "muh boner" on DOAX3 and a camera angle change for SFV. Oh and Xenoblade X's lewdless armor for a fucking 13 year old.
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« Reply #9070 on: December 11, 2015, 01:49:27 PM »
That thread is in damage control mode.

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« Reply #9071 on: December 11, 2015, 01:59:21 PM »
That thread is in damage control mode.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=184563197&postcount=318

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And this is the community you want to throw your lot in with, Himu. Calling people that don't follow your line of jumping to conclusions based on history racist. :doge

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« Reply #9072 on: December 11, 2015, 02:24:57 PM »
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« Reply #9073 on: December 11, 2015, 02:30:23 PM »
Also, that cop is going to get royally fucked up in prison. Like, if he isn't in solitary or protective custody he is going to get fists and dicks thrown at his face.

Not saying that like its necessarily a bad thing to happen, but its going to happen. Cop + being a serial rapist is like a jew going to mecca.
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« Reply #9074 on: December 11, 2015, 02:32:23 PM »
Highly doubt he won't be in PC.

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« Reply #9075 on: December 11, 2015, 02:41:36 PM »
PD is always willing to throw other black people under the bus, so it's not exactly new behavior. But hand waving police getting away with rape especially in the racial context as mere hand wringing is next level PD Carlton-ism. Something that I'm sure he is more than willing to distill as "identity politics" once again.

At some point, people grow to understand that just because a thing happened, it doesn't mean it'll always happen. The same people generally understand that chucking everybody with a similar skin color into the evil bin is, on the face of it, fucking stupid. The current climate has that sort of thought masquerading at progressive and intelligent discourse. Yes, white people have committed atrocities and some continue to do so. Yes, police have gotten away with literal murder. But no, that does not mean - as people were saying - that 13 average white people were chomping at the bit to let go a serial rapist because they shared a like need for sunscreen.

And continue reading this shit flinging going on in the thread. There are people legitimately upset that this verdict went against their preconceived notions. Shows me exactly how few fucks they gave toward the victim, justice or any sense of equality. If that makes PD a Carlton, then might as well call me a fucking race traitor for loving the fact that this guy gets to rot in jail until he's dust.

Doesn't mean it'll always happen. Sure. True enough. But this is just one case and doesn't take away from the fact that even a judge dismissed a case because a black man was not being judged by his peers. It's a common problem. I'm happy that justice was served, but it's just one case. Justice is not always served.

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/judge-declares-mistrial-police-killing-jonathan-ferrell-n414001
https://www.nytimes.com/books/98/02/08/home/rodney-verdict.html
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/24/us/michael-brelo-cleveland-police-officer-acquitted-of-manslaughter-in-2012-deaths.html

Thank you for whitesplaining and telling people that they have absolute zero reason to doubt a jury not letting a police officer doing awful crimes get away. A cop is going to jail this time though.

Pat yourself on the back. We did it, Adrian!

It seems the crux of the problem is that you have a problem that black people think 12 average white people are willing to let a police officer who raped black women will let him go free. Uh, yeah. That's what many black people think. That may offend you. That may make you uncomfortable. But it's the truth. And history - past and present - backs that truth. Even when discussing justice for black lives, apparently it comes down to what a white person's feelings are.

I was about to type a serious response, then I realized that you used "make you uncomfortable" and "whitesplaining" in the same breath. That big of a twat doesn't actually exist in real life. You almost got me, fucker.  :lol

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« Reply #9076 on: December 11, 2015, 03:14:55 PM »
I wasn't really concerned about the racial makeup of the jury, sexual assault in general is something most of the populace at large is really shit about.

 :yeshrug

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« Reply #9077 on: December 11, 2015, 03:22:05 PM »
macuser is so good, it makes me wanna quit  :o

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« Reply #9078 on: December 11, 2015, 03:29:50 PM »
I'd agree with that. But still, given the sheer amount of victims and the evidence it seemed like he was fucked to me. I think it's easier to get away with a police shooting than raping multiple women and not really having a defense. At least with one police shooting you can usually argue (as an attorney) the victim did something to cause the officer to make a mistake, and do you really want to ruin this fine police officer's life for a mistake  :doge

But if a cop comes in with 13 bodies and no threat to his person, he's more likely to be indicted lol.
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« Reply #9079 on: December 11, 2015, 03:34:58 PM »
The ol' Bill Cosby Paradigm. If one woman came forward, most people would be taking Mr. Huxtable's side. Now that the entire population of a mid-sized community college has come forward...well, only the biggest shitheels are claiming anything other than guilt on his part.

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« Reply #9080 on: December 11, 2015, 04:10:51 PM »
Imagine if people took the first couple of victims at their word though, dudes wouldn't be racking up horrific numbers of victims.
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« Reply #9081 on: December 11, 2015, 04:48:54 PM »
Enzom would lose his shit if someone called him "whiney" for every post where he freaks out over even the most tangential connection to race.

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« Reply #9082 on: December 11, 2015, 04:58:37 PM »
The only reason he is in jail now is because one of the 13 (or more) women came forward and trusted the police to do the right thing. In their testimonies, the first 12 all said they didn't even bother reporting it because they don't trust police or didn't think anyone would believe them because they're black or women. Justice was served, but this is not exactly a victory for policing or the status quo.

http://www.buzzfeed.com/jtes/daniel-holtzclaw-women-in-their-ow#.rhX0XDbQn

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« Reply #9083 on: December 11, 2015, 05:16:48 PM »
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1155170

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Is it possible the PS2 is the worst PlayStation console?

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No, that would be the PS4. :doge

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« Reply #9084 on: December 11, 2015, 05:22:20 PM »
It's the Vita if handhelds count.

Can't really say the PS4 as its too early, but 2015 was good and if the next two years deliver I'd easily put the PS4 over the PS3.

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« Reply #9085 on: December 11, 2015, 05:57:32 PM »
Too early to say 4, out of the previous ones the worst is 3. 3 was the first one to not outright steamroll its competition.
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« Reply #9086 on: December 11, 2015, 06:07:53 PM »
ps1 and ps2 were legendary consoles. ps3 was where sony ran it off the rails with their hubris. ps4 is good, but no where near ps1/2 levels of win.
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« Reply #9087 on: December 11, 2015, 06:37:11 PM »
I have a real hard time going back and enjoying any console games from the Saturn/PS1/N64 generation.  It's mostly because of the controls, but the early 3D graphics aren't a big help, either.


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« Reply #9088 on: December 11, 2015, 06:51:54 PM »
We doing list wars brehs?

PS2 > PS3 > PS1 >PS4

PS3 had a good software lineup regardless of whether or not a lot of it was better on 360. A lot of the old PS1 games aged terribly, particularly the 3D action games. Still had them RPGs though. PS4 has like 2 great games in BB and Witcher 3 after 2 years on the market.

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« Reply #9089 on: December 11, 2015, 07:00:21 PM »
The only reason he is in jail now is because one of the 13 (or more) women came forward and trusted the police to do the right thing. In their testimonies, the first 12 all said they didn't even bother reporting it because they don't trust police or didn't think anyone would believe them because they're black or women. Justice was served, but this is not exactly a victory for policing or the status quo.

http://www.buzzfeed.com/jtes/daniel-holtzclaw-women-in-their-ow#.rhX0XDbQn

Don't tell them that, Samson. Justice has been served. Racism and sexism are over.

I wasn't really concerned about the racial makeup of the jury, sexual assault in general is something most of the populace at large is really shit about.

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In the context of black women, many would merely further argue that they deserved it.

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« Reply #9090 on: December 11, 2015, 07:00:48 PM »
Nah m8. PS2>PS1>PS3>PS4

Of course PS4 has a long time to get better, but it's not looking promising.

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« Reply #9091 on: December 11, 2015, 07:02:40 PM »
PD is always willing to throw other black people under the bus, so it's not exactly new behavior. But hand waving police getting away with rape especially in the racial context as mere hand wringing is next level PD Carlton-ism. Something that I'm sure he is more than willing to distill as "identity politics" once again.

At some point, people grow to understand that just because a thing happened, it doesn't mean it'll always happen. The same people generally understand that chucking everybody with a similar skin color into the evil bin is, on the face of it, fucking stupid. The current climate has that sort of thought masquerading at progressive and intelligent discourse. Yes, white people have committed atrocities and some continue to do so. Yes, police have gotten away with literal murder. But no, that does not mean - as people were saying - that 13 average white people were chomping at the bit to let go a serial rapist because they shared a like need for sunscreen.

And continue reading this shit flinging going on in the thread. There are people legitimately upset that this verdict went against their preconceived notions. Shows me exactly how few fucks they gave toward the victim, justice or any sense of equality. If that makes PD a Carlton, then might as well call me a fucking race traitor for loving the fact that this guy gets to rot in jail until he's dust.

Doesn't mean it'll always happen. Sure. True enough. But this is just one case and doesn't take away from the fact that even a judge dismissed a case because a black man was not being judged by his peers. It's a common problem. I'm happy that justice was served, but it's just one case. Justice is not always served.

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/judge-declares-mistrial-police-killing-jonathan-ferrell-n414001
https://www.nytimes.com/books/98/02/08/home/rodney-verdict.html
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/24/us/michael-brelo-cleveland-police-officer-acquitted-of-manslaughter-in-2012-deaths.html

Thank you for whitesplaining and telling people that they have absolute zero reason to doubt a jury not letting a police officer doing awful crimes get away. A cop is going to jail this time though.

Pat yourself on the back. We did it, Adrian!

It seems the crux of the problem is that you have a problem that black people think 12 average white people are willing to let a police officer who raped black women will let him go free. Uh, yeah. That's what many black people think. That may offend you. That may make you uncomfortable. But it's the truth. And history - past and present - backs that truth. Even when discussing justice for black lives, apparently it comes down to what a white person's feelings are.

I was about to type a serious response, then I realized that you used "make you uncomfortable" and "whitesplaining" in the same breath. That big of a twat doesn't actually exist in real life. You almost got me, fucker.  :lol

I am 100% serious.

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« Reply #9092 on: December 11, 2015, 07:07:17 PM »
In the context of black women, many would merely further argue that they deserved it.

Well yeah people want to continually be shocked at the fact that predators target specific populations of people knowing full well they'll be the least likely to be believed. Everybody is glad when a piece of shit like this goes away but that's basically it, rarely do people want to investigate and lay bare how we failed these women too by our perceptions making them into suitable victims for a predator.

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« Reply #9093 on: December 11, 2015, 07:12:21 PM »
In the context of black women, many would merely further argue that they deserved it.

Well yeah people want to continually be shocked at the fact that predators target specific populations of people knowing full well they'll be the least likely to be believed. Everybody is glad when a piece of shit like this goes away but that's basically it, rarely do people want to investigate and lay bare how we failed these women too by our perceptions making them into suitable victims for a predator.

But why are people doubting all white juries, Devo? White people aren't all bad! :brazilcry

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« Reply #9094 on: December 11, 2015, 07:18:22 PM »
Easier to bicker over that than admit we live in a misogynistic society in which class and racial issues made it easy for this cop to sexually abuse and exploit women. Can't wait for Hilary to get in the White House tbh.

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« Reply #9095 on: December 11, 2015, 07:22:03 PM »
The ol' Bill Cosby Paradigm. If one woman came forward, most people would be taking Mr. Huxtable's side. Now that the entire population of a mid-sized community college has come forward...well, only the biggest shitheels are claiming anything other than guilt on his part.

Maybe all those people are lying for attention???

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« Reply #9096 on: December 11, 2015, 07:58:12 PM »
PS2 was amazing.

Actually the last console I really enjoyed. Xbox lost me on needing to have Live. 360 just kept RROD'ing on me and I gave up on it and got a PS3. And then the PS3 just sort of had nothing I really cared much about. Or anything I did care about was also on PC in which case why not just use a PC because then I dont have to sit for hours waiting for my PS3 to update, and then hours waiting for the game to update.

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« Reply #9097 on: December 11, 2015, 09:31:16 PM »
PS2 > PS1 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> PS4 > PS3

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« Reply #9098 on: December 11, 2015, 09:54:13 PM »
PS2 = Xbox = Xbox 360>>>PS1>>>Dreamcast>>>Gamecube>>>SNES = Genesis>>>PS3>>>N64>>>PS4 = Xbone>>>Wii>>>Wii-U
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« Reply #9099 on: December 11, 2015, 10:11:25 PM »
Hard for me to rank the Playstation consoles. I never exactly grew up with them a whole lot. I was more into Sega and Nintendo. But the PS1 might be my favorite? I'll have to dig more into both systems (PS1 and 2) sometime (been already slowly working on that). I don't own a PS4 yet because nothing exactly interests me that I can get on PC instead.


As far as favorite overall systems goes though the Sega Genesis, SNES and DS ranks up pretty high.
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« Reply #9100 on: December 11, 2015, 10:42:47 PM »
The PS3 was a :trash console.  Sfags who like to consider the PS3 good like to ignore the first three years, where it had terrible droughts and those droughts were broken up by garbage games like Lair.

PS2 > PS1 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> PS4 > PS3

I agree with this.  PS4 has potential but it is already better than the PS3 and it's just barely getting out of its warm up stage.
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« Reply #9101 on: December 11, 2015, 11:10:34 PM »
When it comes to hardware, I agree, the PS4 is a lot better when it comes to stability and functionality. When it comes to software, this gen sucks ass. The PS3 exclusives weren't that great personally, but it still has a huge library of great games.
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« Reply #9102 on: December 12, 2015, 01:16:06 AM »
In the context of black women, many would merely further argue that they deserved it.

Well yeah people want to continually be shocked at the fact that predators target specific populations of people knowing full well they'll be the least likely to be believed. Everybody is glad when a piece of shit like this goes away but that's basically it, rarely do people want to investigate and lay bare how we failed these women too by our perceptions making them into suitable victims for a predator.

But why are people doubting all white juries, Devo? White people aren't all bad! :brazilcry

Oh fucking please. Nobody is saying you're wrong for thinking your thinking with the history. Peoples problem is you jumping straight to that conclusion and thinking "oh he's certainly gonna get off scott-free" when this shows that's not always the case. So going "oh he's white so x, y, and z" will happen is stupid. That thread proves "BlackGAF" isn't for the betterment of their race or the world in general. They're out to jump on the outrage train and have their precog'd reasonings be concluded so they can go "SEE! RACISM IS STILL ALIVE AND WELL!" No shit racism is alive and well in regards to American systems, I don't think you'll find any white person besides staunch racists that won't admit that. But to sit there and then go "oh well he only got convicted because he has some Asian blood running through him" is some seriously "fuck whitey"/reverse racist shit that shouldn't be coming from someone that oh so wants Black Lives Matter to be "successful" with whites.

But do please go on about how we're "white'splaining" because we don't agree with you jumping immediately to the "he's gonna get off scott-free" place on the jumping to conclusions mat.

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« Reply #9103 on: December 12, 2015, 01:34:56 AM »
Money and your standing in society is far more prevalent in fucked court cases than the color of your skin, I'd like to add.

Race/ethnicity definitely can influence a case where the defendant gets fucked, but if they have a ton of cash and an all star legal team, things will swing into their favor. The US justice system throws poor people/low income people under the bus is the more honest narrative. Turns out systemic racism makes a lot of black people poor, poor black people get targeted by police, they don't have the money or resources to defend themselves or get justice on the perpetrator.

Racism leads people to a system they can't fight against, nor anyone that doesn't have money can fight against.

Being a cop can be a defensive buff depending on the charges.
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« Reply #9104 on: December 12, 2015, 01:51:03 AM »
Can't we all just celebrate the fact that a serial rapist is going to die in prison  :goty2

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« Reply #9105 on: December 12, 2015, 01:58:11 AM »
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« Reply #9106 on: December 12, 2015, 02:17:43 AM »
To add to that, posting long diatribes about how "hey guys did you know sexism and racism is still around" followed by eye-rolling "OH WELL PROBLEM SOLVED RACISM IZ DEAD" is entirely masturbatory around these parts. This isn't Trump's home page comment section. Not a single person here is saying, or has said, that racism and sexism are gone. That's a shit tactic. You know goddamn well that nobody was saying this one case now proves that sexism and racism is gone forever. You fucking know that or are incapable of separating people who disagree with jumping to conclusions based on race with people who are posting things like "oh, another cop railroaded by Obummers America."

Either way, you're not coming across as a genuine person. If you're not willing to engage actual racist people, that's your prerogative. But don't levy your rhetoric on people who only very slightly disagree with some of your methods - and not your overall stance - and definitely don't try to lump them all in them same pot. In this scenario, there really isn't a "them" to frame an "us v. them" battle, and that seems to be some people's entire methodology when coming to discussions about race or gender. Nobody here, or on GAF is talking about this poor cop got hemmed up. Everybody is very clearly glad to see him go away and I think everybody is genuinely sad that it took extraordinary circumstances for the victims to come forward. It's extremely gratifying to see a white, male, American cop - the perfect nexus of privilege - go down for a crime that I personally view as equal to murder. Personally, I'm even a wee bit upset (and I know logically, I'm wrong here, but the lizard part of my brain wants blood) that he can't get the death penalty.


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« Reply #9107 on: December 12, 2015, 02:29:38 AM »
In the context of black women, many would merely further argue that they deserved it.

Well yeah people want to continually be shocked at the fact that predators target specific populations of people knowing full well they'll be the least likely to be believed. Everybody is glad when a piece of shit like this goes away but that's basically it, rarely do people want to investigate and lay bare how we failed these women too by our perceptions making them into suitable victims for a predator.

But why are people doubting all white juries, Devo? White people aren't all bad! :brazilcry

Oh fucking please. Nobody is saying you're wrong for thinking your thinking with the history. Peoples problem is you jumping straight to that conclusion and thinking "oh he's certainly gonna get off scott-free" when this shows that's not always the case. So going "oh he's white so x, y, and z" will happen is stupid.

Naw. I haven't read the thread, but thinking,"it's quite likely he's going to get off scot free" is a pretty natural one. Justice is rarely served. One case doesn't change anything at all considering the amount of times stuff like this goes under reported. This one case doesn't give credence to the idea that people should put faith in the justice system by default. It wasn't the fact he was white that gave doubts of a conviction. It was that combined with the fact the jury is all white mostly male in Oklahoma. It doesn't take two brains figure out that that's a high likelihood for jury bias. Happens quite often. I never said because he's white he will get x, y, and z but to pretend like there's not  historical precedent is pretty hilarious.

My problem was the initial response. "Black people think that an all white jury won't convict a serial rapist cop! How dare they?!" "See?! Justice was served! Eat crow! The system works!" I didn't even read the thread. I don't even care what the people in the thread even said. My response was only to the replies in this thread to the case.

All you're telling me is that you have more faith in the Justice system than black people. So what? You can't live with that? Why is it a problem that some peoples natural reaction is that he'll get off scot free? Shouldn't this tell you more about their situation? But you haven't though about that. Cuz you don't live it. Fuck off.

So yeah, thanks for cacsplaining. :doge

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« Reply #9108 on: December 12, 2015, 02:32:45 AM »
To add to that, posting long diatribes about how "hey guys did you know sexism and racism is still around" followed by eye-rolling "OH WELL PROBLEM SOLVED RACISM IZ DEAD" is entirely masturbatory around these parts. This isn't Trump's home page comment section. Not a single person here is saying, or has said, that racism and sexism are gone. That's a shit tactic. You know goddamn well that nobody was saying this one case now proves that sexism and racism is gone forever. You fucking know that or are incapable of separating people who disagree with jumping to conclusions based on race with people who are posting things like "oh, another cop railroaded by Obummers America."

Either way, you're not coming across as a genuine person. If you're not willing to engage actual racist people, that's your prerogative. But don't levy your rhetoric on people who only very slightly disagree with some of your methods - and not your overall stance - and definitely don't try to lump them all in them same pot. In this scenario, there really isn't a "them" to frame an "us v. them" battle, and that seems to be some people's entire methodology when coming to discussions about race or gender. Nobody here, or on GAF is talking about this poor cop got hemmed up. Everybody is very clearly glad to see him go away and I think everybody is genuinely sad that it took extraordinary circumstances for the victims to come forward. It's extremely gratifying to see a white, male, American cop - the perfect nexus of privilege - go down for a crime that I personally view as equal to murder. Personally, I'm even a wee bit upset (and I know logically, I'm wrong here, but the lizard part of my brain wants blood) that he can't get the death penalty.

So why are you so mad that some peoples reaction is that Justice won't be served? Why does this make you so angry? You say that's not what was said or was inferred, but you sure do enjoy rubbing in the faces of people that might not trust all white mostly male juries that they're wrong for denying Justice will happen.

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« Reply #9109 on: December 12, 2015, 02:33:45 AM »
I never got into ps2, bought the ffx bundle but meh. It got sold pretty quickly after I finishwd DMC.

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« Reply #9110 on: December 12, 2015, 02:40:49 AM »

Either way, you're not coming across as a genuine person. If you're not willing to engage actual racist people, that's your prerogative. But don't levy your rhetoric on people who only very slightly disagree with some of your methods - and not your overall stance - and definitely don't try to lump them all in them same pot.


Let's see who originally posted what, shall weeee?

"OMG an all-white jury for a white cop? Well, we know how this is gonna work, right guize?"
[Guilty verdict rendered, sending pig to jail for 238 years]
"Well, uh, wasn't the guy half-Asian?"

Who caused the division in the first place? You.

Who made fun of people who had the rationale to think it's likely a cop who sexually assaulted 13 women with an all white mostly male jury would get off free after case after case after case of this happening? You.

Who claims to not be the "actual racist" in your post? In an "I'm not one of the bad guys!" manner? You.

Who is the apparent white ally? You.

Thanks for whitesplaining. :)

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« Reply #9111 on: December 12, 2015, 02:44:59 AM »
To add to that, posting long diatribes about how "hey guys did you know sexism and racism is still around" followed by eye-rolling "OH WELL PROBLEM SOLVED RACISM IZ DEAD" is entirely masturbatory around these parts. This isn't Trump's home page comment section. Not a single person here is saying, or has said, that racism and sexism are gone. That's a shit tactic. You know goddamn well that nobody was saying this one case now proves that sexism and racism is gone forever. You fucking know that or are incapable of separating people who disagree with jumping to conclusions based on race with people who are posting things like "oh, another cop railroaded by Obummers America."

Either way, you're not coming across as a genuine person. If you're not willing to engage actual racist people, that's your prerogative. But don't levy your rhetoric on people who only very slightly disagree with some of your methods - and not your overall stance - and definitely don't try to lump them all in them same pot. In this scenario, there really isn't a "them" to frame an "us v. them" battle, and that seems to be some people's entire methodology when coming to discussions about race or gender. Nobody here, or on GAF is talking about this poor cop got hemmed up. Everybody is very clearly glad to see him go away and I think everybody is genuinely sad that it took extraordinary circumstances for the victims to come forward. It's extremely gratifying to see a white, male, American cop - the perfect nexus of privilege - go down for a crime that I personally view as equal to murder. Personally, I'm even a wee bit upset (and I know logically, I'm wrong here, but the lizard part of my brain wants blood) that he can't get the death penalty.

So why are you so mad that some peoples reaction is that Justice won't be served? Why does this make you so angry? You say that's not what was said or was inferred, but you sure do enjoy rubbing in the faces of people that might not trust all white mostly male juries that they're wrong for denying Justice will happen.

This is what I'm talking about. You are constructing entire fabrications and attributing silly reactions to them. You've got to be a literal crazy person to "rub this in people's faces." The one guy on GAF who was doing that was summarily banned. That's an insane point of view. Again, stop trying to chuck everybody into a convenient bin that you can then rage against. It's embarrassing behavior. Same with trying to frame positions are emotional, therefore bad. Any reaction to this - yours included - is an emotional response. Might as well be asking me "did you ever get caught kissing your sister?" It's silly.

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« Reply #9112 on: December 12, 2015, 02:46:05 AM »
Rub it in people's faces? Read that post I quoted above. Own up to your own shit.

Yet you can't even tell me why thinking he's going to get off is apparently bad. Just focusing on random non sequiturs talking about YOU'RE DIVIDING PEOPLE when the person who started this entire thing and divided people to begin with was you. A self identifying white ally. Coincidence? Think not.

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« Reply #9113 on: December 12, 2015, 02:48:55 AM »
To add to that, posting long diatribes about how "hey guys did you know sexism and racism is still around" followed by eye-rolling "OH WELL PROBLEM SOLVED RACISM IZ DEAD" is entirely masturbatory around these parts. This isn't Trump's home page comment section. Not a single person here is saying, or has said, that racism and sexism are gone. That's a shit tactic. You know goddamn well that nobody was saying this one case now proves that sexism and racism is gone forever. You fucking know that or are incapable of separating people who disagree with jumping to conclusions based on race with people who are posting things like "oh, another cop railroaded by Obummers America."

Either way, you're not coming across as a genuine person. If you're not willing to engage actual racist people, that's your prerogative. But don't levy your rhetoric on people who only very slightly disagree with some of your methods - and not your overall stance - and definitely don't try to lump them all in them same pot. In this scenario, there really isn't a "them" to frame an "us v. them" battle, and that seems to be some people's entire methodology when coming to discussions about race or gender. Nobody here, or on GAF is talking about this poor cop got hemmed up. Everybody is very clearly glad to see him go away and I think everybody is genuinely sad that it took extraordinary circumstances for the victims to come forward. It's extremely gratifying to see a white, male, American cop - the perfect nexus of privilege - go down for a crime that I personally view as equal to murder. Personally, I'm even a wee bit upset (and I know logically, I'm wrong here, but the lizard part of my brain wants blood) that he can't get the death penalty.

So why are you so mad that some peoples reaction is that Justice won't be served? Why does this make you so angry? You say that's not what was said or was inferred, but you sure do enjoy rubbing in the faces of people that might not trust all white mostly male juries that they're wrong for denying Justice will happen.

This is what I'm talking about. You are constructing entire fabrications and attributing silly reactions to them. You've got to be a literal crazy person to "rub this in people's faces." The one guy on GAF who was doing that was summarily banned. That's an insane point of view. Again, stop trying to chuck everybody into a convenient bin that you can then rage against. It's embarrassing behavior. Same with trying to frame positions are emotional, therefore bad. Any reaction to this - yours included - is an emotional response. Might as well be asking me "did you ever get caught kissing your sister?" It's silly.


Either way, you're not coming across as a genuine person. If you're not willing to engage actual racist people, that's your prerogative. But don't levy your rhetoric on people who only very slightly disagree with some of your methods - and not your overall stance - and definitely don't try to lump them all in them same pot.


Let's see who originally posted what, shall weeee?

"OMG an all-white jury for a white cop? Well, we know how this is gonna work, right guize?"
[Guilty verdict rendered, sending pig to jail for 238 years]
"Well, uh, wasn't the guy half-Asian?"

Who caused the division in the first place? You.

Who made fun of people who had the rationale to think it's likely a cop who sexually assaulted 13 women with an all white mostly male jury would get off free after case after case after case of this happening? You.

Who claims to not be the "actual racist" in your post? In an "I'm not one of the bad guys!" manner? You.

Who is the apparent white ally? You.

Thanks for whitesplaining. :)

On one hand, I really just want to call you a troll. You say you're not, so let's go over that again. Why do you think that is "fun of people who had the rationale to think it's likely a cop who sexually assaulted 13 women with an all white mostly male jury would get off free" and not the people who started to turn the narrative to the guys mixed-heritage after the guilty verdict?

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« Reply #9114 on: December 12, 2015, 02:50:20 AM »
Again, I haven't read the thread. I haven't read what they're saying. The people who are doing that are distinguished mentally-challenged. But the focus pretty clearly from our entire talk has been focused entirely on people thinking he's going to get with it because he's a white cop. The mixed heritage hasn't even factored into in the last two pages. I highly suggest reading other responses such as Mormapope's that quotes your original post.

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« Reply #9115 on: December 12, 2015, 02:53:21 AM »
Again, I haven't read the thread. I haven't read what they're saying. The people who are doing that are distinguished mentally-challenged.

So, then you don't know what the fuck you're talking about - as I said. Maybe stop trying to rage and call "whiteplaining" and "allyism" when you don't understand the context of what's going on. That was my entire fucking point and instead of asking what I meant when you clearly were confused, you invented wholesale fabrications. That's the exact behavior I'm talking about. Not any of the other bullshit you came up with.

EDIT: And if you have a problem with something mormapope said, take it up with him. Again, and this is a shocker, we're not all the same people. We're not the fucking borg, buddy.

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« Reply #9116 on: December 12, 2015, 02:58:46 AM »
I know exactly what I'm talking about. This mostly blew up when you flat out told me "just because something happened doesn't mean it's always going to happen" but now you're telling me "no one said racism and sexism aren't over!" When this post I'm quoting could easily be interpreted as that.

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But no, that does not mean - as people were saying - that 13 average white people were chomping at the bit to let go a serial rapist because they shared a like need for sunscreen.

Again, you told people how they should feel about it when this happened before and it will happen in the future. You just didnt like the idea of people thinking 13 average white people would do that. They have done it. They'll do it again. Read your response again and then read mine. You talk about racism and sexism not being over, but you are definitely more than willing to not concede that all white juries are a big form of racism and have been for centuries. But for some reason you've got a problem when people bring that up.


PD is always willing to throw other black people under the bus, so it's not exactly new behavior. But hand waving police getting away with rape especially in the racial context as mere hand wringing is next level PD Carlton-ism. Something that I'm sure he is more than willing to distill as "identity politics" once again.

At some point, people grow to understand that just because a thing happened, it doesn't mean it'll always happen. The same people generally understand that chucking everybody with a similar skin color into the evil bin is, on the face of it, fucking stupid. The current climate has that sort of thought masquerading at progressive and intelligent discourse. Yes, white people have committed atrocities and some continue to do so. Yes, police have gotten away with literal murder. But no, that does not mean - as people were saying - that 13 average white people were chomping at the bit to let go a serial rapist because they shared a like need for sunscreen.

And continue reading this shit flinging going on in the thread. There are people legitimately upset that this verdict went against their preconceived notions. Shows me exactly how few fucks they gave toward the victim, justice or any sense of equality. If that makes PD a Carlton, then might as well call me a fucking race traitor for loving the fact that this guy gets to rot in jail until he's dust.
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« Reply #9117 on: December 12, 2015, 03:06:19 AM »
I know exactly what I'm talking about. This mostly blew up when you flat out told me "just because something happened doesn't mean it's always going to happen" but now you're telling me "no one said racism and sexism aren't over!" When this post I'm quoting could easily be interpreted as that.


These statements are not opposing. They are very much true. Racism exists, that does not mean racism always exists. This is not a concept we generally struggle over. I've never been mad at people who have no faith in the justice system. Who has faith in cops in 2015? Well, besides the obvious people. Again, nobody is even remotely coming close to saying "racism/sexism is over." Any reading thereof here is willful misinterpretation at this point.

And I can't be held responsible for something that was misinterpreted, even if you consider it something easily done. At this point, I've clarified several times over and you admit that your initial outrage was based on a massive misunderstanding of a comment that you didn't bother to read the context behind. I don't know what else to add except to reiterate that once again, nobody is saying the things you believed them to be saying. I'm certainly not. If you want to continue to believe otherwise, that's your prerogative.

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« Reply #9118 on: December 12, 2015, 03:08:32 AM »
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« Reply #9119 on: December 12, 2015, 03:12:17 AM »
I know exactly what I'm talking about. This mostly blew up when you flat out told me "just because something happened doesn't mean it's always going to happen" but now you're telling me "no one said racism and sexism aren't over!" When this post I'm quoting could easily be interpreted as that.


These statements are not opposing. They are very much true. Racism exists, that does not mean racism always exists. This is not a concept we generally struggle over. And I can't be held responsible for something that was misinterpreted, even if you consider it something easily done. At this point, I've clarified several times over and you admit that your initial outrage was based on a massive misunderstanding of a comment that you didn't bother to read the context behind. I don't know what else to add except to reiterate that once again, nobody is saying the things you believed them to be saying. I'm certainly not. If you want to continue to believe otherwise, that's your prerogative.

Yeah well I still disagree with that big post about sunscreen.

I don't think white people are evil, but it stands to reason there's numerous social factor, from media influence, to pure socialization. Science defends this and gives it credence.

You have misinterpreted me just as much as I have misinterpreted you. I never said white people are evil. You brought that up. I never chucked all white people in the same bin. You said that. You're the one who said an all white jury aren't "chomping at the bit to excuse serial rape". They've done it before, they'll do it again. It's not just because he's white either. It's also because a cop.Which is something you keep ignoring.

I find you just as divisive as the people you rant against.