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mormapope

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Re: The Bore does what NeoGAF doesn't.
« Reply #5400 on: October 29, 2015, 02:46:53 PM »
I don't think it necessarily a bad thing that people think some subjects are more sensitive than others and don't need to be in trite and shitty narratives or basically exploited for profit. Can people be a bit more explanatory about why and less reactionary, sure, but sometimes they really don't need to be. These kinds of discussions worry me about the need to constantly rationalize empathy for some folks, that's not what empathy is about, sorry.

That "sometimes" is the basis for the entire debate. "Sometimes" means very different things for different people. Empathy is gained from understanding, getting people to understand something is a very important skill.

Doesn't mean quick fire judgments can't be made, its the expectation that those judgements can't be called into question that causes annoyance.

Morma: I think that's fucked up too. Doesn't make it okay because a black dude did it.

I was gonna ask if the mother and baby were white, would it still be funny.

I'd say yes. A baby of any color with a huge dick and balls is visually hilarious no matter what.
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« Reply #5401 on: October 29, 2015, 02:51:14 PM »
Eh I get annoyed by emotional subjects on the internet having to constantly be laid out in logical arguments complete with data sets before someone employs their empathy chip.

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« Reply #5402 on: October 29, 2015, 02:56:22 PM »
Eh I get annoyed by emotional subjects on the internet having to constantly be laid out in logic arguments complete with data sets before someone employs their empathy chip.

Sure, life is like that, we are not logic machines. But it's a message board, second guessing another message board, so debates gonna debate.
Also we won't have any clean cut answers to any of the abstract points here.

It's perfectly fine to say "I am not comfortable with this subject matter". Tapping in caps "WTF" or calling names to the people behind the project is a bit stupid tho. To cut GAF some slack, that's not all of the reactions there.
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« Reply #5403 on: October 29, 2015, 02:57:30 PM »
I find it weird how people are perfectly willing to laugh at and demonisze pedo's while at the same time think it's funny to give a kid a big dick or a big ass in a sketch. It's just weird as fuck to me.

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« Reply #5404 on: October 29, 2015, 02:59:03 PM »
Wish I had a Brecht emoji (where's Esch when you need him) so I could make a holy fool post about passive carthsis and experiential analysis with appropriated Coli slang rn.

Also big ups to VK for using mode of production in a post. I see you joined the CGT. ;)

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« Reply #5405 on: October 29, 2015, 03:01:45 PM »
I'd throw in there, what is the point of a discussion forum if discussion is viewed as trivial? I come to the internet to discuss, debate, change my way of thinking. I don't use the internet mainly as a feelings machine. The internet can be used to mend emotions and find support, but that's not how I view the majority of forums.
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« Reply #5406 on: October 29, 2015, 03:03:45 PM »
Wish I had a Brecht emoji (where's Esch when you need him) so I could make a holy fool post about passive carthsis and experiential analysis with appropriated Coli slang rn.

Also big ups to VK for using mode of production in a post. I see you joined the CGT. ;)

Vague memories of my economics curriculum.  :doge
Mode of production might not be really accurate. Hope the general idea was conveyed.
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« Reply #5407 on: October 29, 2015, 03:04:13 PM »
You can discuss your feelings. ☝

If my fucking therapist is to be believed that is. What do they know, though?

E: imo it's accurate, VK, it's just an opportunity to make referential humor to which I am addicted.

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« Reply #5408 on: October 29, 2015, 03:05:52 PM »
You can discuss your feelings. ☝
It often stops at "I feel this about this" though, which is boring and tiresome. I'd rather know why, especially when I don't feel the same.
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« Reply #5409 on: October 29, 2015, 03:08:15 PM »
I'd throw in there, what is the point of a discussion forum if discussion is viewed as trivial? I come to the internet to discuss, debate, change my way of thinking. I don't use the internet mainly as a feelings machine. The internet can be used to mend emotions and find support, but that's not how I view the majority of forums.

Feelings machine? If people want to call a game about a certain subject fucked up (because let's be honest games aren't exactly great for tackling any kind of social critique thus far or treating a subject carefully), then I'm not really going to question how someone could possibly feel that way, nor need an essay plus some studies. There are some things I don't really need people to go in detail on because I fundamentally understand why they'd have a problem with it. This constant need for people to logically and rationally break down what are essentially feelings has me wondering if some people just lack emotional intelligence or want to be contrary for the fuck of it.

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« Reply #5410 on: October 29, 2015, 03:10:16 PM »

The only point being made is 'In this case I dont like it, therefor it's bad'. People on gaf in general wont cape against killing random browns but would absolutely go to bat for 9/11. It's entirely because they care about one more than the other, and that's okay because humans work this way. My point isnt portrayal of violence against browns is bad! Let's tackle that first!' whataboutism. It's that the reaction to this is entirely driven by the fact this this event happened to them therefore they think it holds special significance over all the other bullshit bombings, droning and other real life shit portrayed (in a exploitative manner mind you) in videogames.


It's not, it's the same deal, just now you care.


Again, it's fine to be upset and i'll be respectful and in most cases empathetic towards you, but if you're questioning the existence of a thing you better damn well have more than 'this upsets me'  especially put in the context where the same shit happens with many other events that doesn't upset you but causes equal pain to many others.


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« Reply #5411 on: October 29, 2015, 03:10:36 PM »
You can discuss your feelings. ☝
eh that never ends well, i've given up on it

mormapope

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« Reply #5412 on: October 29, 2015, 03:12:16 PM »
This is the Daytona 500 of discussions  :lol

EDIT: Emotional intelligence should be how you treat people, not what you ask of them.
« Last Edit: October 29, 2015, 03:16:40 PM by mormapope »
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« Reply #5413 on: October 29, 2015, 03:15:02 PM »
This is the Daytona 500 of discussions  :lol

Circular and left leaning?

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« Reply #5414 on: October 29, 2015, 03:15:16 PM »

My problem with blacks

I don't agree with a variety of this but you make a good point about something that really makes me roll my eyes: the constant attempt to get rustled over trivial shit. Ellen DeGeneres recently did a skit where she did a parody of Nikki Minaj, including her butt. Multiple think pieces emerged arguing this was racist or stereotyped, bringing up the long history of  black women being mocked by teh white manz. Jesus fuck are you shitting me? Same with the Nicki Minaj/MTV thing. Never mind that the vast majority of "video of the year" nominees were people of color, nevermind that Beyonce has a similar body type to Nicki. People STILL defended her lazy attempt at playing the race/gender card.

There seems to be a persistent focus on embracing a victim mentality and applying it to every fucking thing. It seems like a month doesn't go by without something like this happening. It's trivial and insulting to actual grievances that are being discussed.

The main problem isn't making fun of Nicki Minja's butt. I don't think you saw the actual video.

You can argue that it's not targeting black women, but many black girls grow up having bigger than average butts, and many men start sexualizing them as early as 10 to 12 years old due to that. You can argue that it's targeted at Nicki, but Nicki isn't the only black woman with a big butt, and one should be careful when sexualizing a child, period., because There is nothing right about the skit. It's just tacky in general.

Let's say this was flipped and it had a famous black guy with a big hung dick as a child, and he came downstairs with his big dick and his big balls slapping the stair banister. Sure, you could argue it's targeted at the famous guy who's hung as fuck, but the truth of the matter is that black men are sexualized and exotified every day for having supposedly having big dicks, and are seen as offering nothing more than that. So you make a skit making fun of his big dick, despite the history, despite the context, despite the fact it's a CHILD. Sure, the idea sounds pretty funny, but it doesn't make the situation any less weird or disgusting, whether it's a boy or girl. This should not have been done, period. And anyone who is saying it's okay because "it's a joke" is wrong, period. You do not sexualize children, even as jokes. I don't see how or why this is a hard concept to grasp. We have lines, and we do not sexualize kids, even if jokingly. But apparently all bets are off when the child is black.

The fact you're unwilling to understand why some people not like it and pass it off as merely playing the victim card is pretty cute as much as it exposes your own limited life experience.

The next time you make fun of a pedo on gaf remember that you defended Ellen sexualizing a child.

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« Reply #5415 on: October 29, 2015, 03:18:14 PM »
But yeah, VR will totally fuck our societies if it comes to pass in any way as it was predicted. That "be in the North Tower" thing will 100% be tame to a lot of stuff that will inundate it. I don't think there's a lot we can do about that above our own individual choices, unless you're willing to become a concerned moral guardian.
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« Reply #5416 on: October 29, 2015, 03:21:48 PM »

My problem with blacks

I don't agree with a variety of this but you make a good point about something that really makes me roll my eyes: the constant attempt to get rustled over trivial shit. Ellen DeGeneres recently did a skit where she did a parody of Nikki Minaj, including her butt. Multiple think pieces emerged arguing this was racist or stereotyped, bringing up the long history of  black women being mocked by teh white manz. Jesus fuck are you shitting me? Same with the Nicki Minaj/MTV thing. Never mind that the vast majority of "video of the year" nominees were people of color, nevermind that Beyonce has a similar body type to Nicki. People STILL defended her lazy attempt at playing the race/gender card.

There seems to be a persistent focus on embracing a victim mentality and applying it to every fucking thing. It seems like a month doesn't go by without something like this happening. It's trivial and insulting to actual grievances that are being discussed.

The main problem isn't making fun of Nicki Minja's butt. I don't think you saw the actual video.

You can argue that it's not targeting black women, but many black girls grow up having bigger than average butts, and many men start sexualizing them as early as 10 to 12 years old due to that. You can argue that it's targeted at Nicki, but Nicki isn't the only black woman with a big butt, and one should be careful when sexualizing a child, period., because There is nothing right about the skit. It's just tacky in general.

Let's say this was flipped and it had a famous black guy with a big hung dick as a child, and he came downstairs with his big dick and his big balls slapping the stair banister. Sure, you could argue it's targeted at the famous guy who's hung as fuck, but the truth of the matter is that black men are sexualized and exotified every day for having supposedly having big dicks, and are seen as offering nothing more than that. So you make a skit making fun of his big dick, despite the history, despite the context, despite the fact it's a CHILD. Sure, the idea sounds pretty funny, but it doesn't make the situation any less weird or disgusting, whether it's a boy or girl. This should not have been done, period. And anyone who is saying it's okay because "it's a joke" is wrong, period. You do not sexualize children, even as jokes. I don't see how or why this is a hard concept to grasp. We have lines, and we do not sexualize kids, even if jokingly. But apparently all bets are off when the child is black.

The fact you're unwilling to understand why some people not like it and pass it off as merely playing the victim card is pretty cute as much as it exposes your own limited life experience.

The next time you make fun of a pedo on gaf remember that you defended Ellen sexualizing a child.

:snoop

Seriously though. Not a good look for a black person to bring up victim cards. You sound like Don Lemon or Ben Carson, dude. Are there cases where people take it too far? Yeah, you bet your ass. But that's what happens when you have to live your life on the defensive. Some people are going to be wrong, but it's your job as a black person to support them and explain to them in a more rational and caring manner. Or at least, try to understand why they're mad. Instead, you're throwing entirely valid black opinions under the bus, because you disagree with them, and argue them away as playing the victim.

Not a good look at all. Looks mad churlish and Don Lemon-esque.

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« Reply #5417 on: October 29, 2015, 03:23:02 PM »

The only point being made is 'In this case I dont like it, therefor it's bad'. People on gaf in general wont cape against killing random browns but would absolutely go to bat for 9/11. It's entirely because they care about one more than the other, and that's okay because humans work this way. My point isnt portrayal of violence against browns is bad! Let's tackle that first!' whataboutism. It's that the reaction to this is entirely driven by the fact this this event happened to them therefore they think it holds special significance over all the other bullshit bombings, droning and other real life shit portrayed (in a exploitative manner mind you) in videogames.


It's not, it's the same deal, just now you care.


Again, it's fine to be upset and i'll be respectful and in most cases empathetic towards you, but if you're questioning the existence of a thing you better damn well have more than 'this upsets me'  especially put in the context where the same shit happens with many other events that doesn't upset you but causes equal pain to many others.


 :idont

So is it the general hypocrisy that some display because they play CoD or their inability to go into detail about the subject matter of the game is off limits to them. Those are two different problems. And maybe some of them do actually have a problem and aren't hypocrites, so you might not want to cast that wide of a net?

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« Reply #5418 on: October 29, 2015, 03:24:58 PM »
Personally I can't wait for the holocaust VR experience.

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« Reply #5419 on: October 29, 2015, 03:29:58 PM »


 
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« Reply #5420 on: October 29, 2015, 03:31:04 PM »
Personally I can't wait for the holocaust VR experience.

Shouldn't be too long now before being a real commercially viable thing. One or two generations I'd say and who knows, maybe even in an Holocaust memorial.
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« Reply #5421 on: October 29, 2015, 03:31:17 PM »
This is the Daytona 500 of discussions  :lol

Circular and left leaning?

Ovals aren't circular, Pythagoras. :ufup

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« Reply #5422 on: October 29, 2015, 03:33:47 PM »
This is the Daytona 500 of discussions  :lol

Circular and left leaning?

Ovals aren't circular, Pythagoras. :ufup

Circular-ish, whatever. Stop ruining this for me.

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« Reply #5423 on: October 29, 2015, 03:33:55 PM »
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=183402648&postcount=210

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Thats why japanese RPG seems superior. I don't want boring lord of the rings wannabes and surely having waifu wars on /a/ or /v/ is fun.

(Image removed from quote.)

Different strokes for different folks I guess? I can see why a lot of western people like the super crude and socially realistic depictions of humans in Fallout, Mass Effect, etc etc.

After all, we all play videogames just for fun.

 
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and surely having waifu wars is fun.


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« Reply #5424 on: October 29, 2015, 03:35:41 PM »
You could use that CNN shopped image in that thread too if you're so inclined.

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« Reply #5425 on: October 29, 2015, 03:41:57 PM »
So is it the general hypocrisy that some display because they play CoD or their inability to go into detail about the subject matter of the game is off limits to them. Those are two different problems. And maybe some of them do actually have a problem and aren't hypocrites, so you might not want to cast that wide of a net?
My net isnt wide, my net is limited to the context of videogames where BF and COD makes billions and the subject matter is largely ignored while this is being pounced on like a thirsty nerd at a strip club. This isnt about some exceptional snowflakes, like you, mods help or me that would be willing to look at both cases, recognize the offense and try and understand or apply empathy, it's that the general outpouring is unashamedly and blatantly ME ME ME ME my offense matters more than yours.

This shit isnt in a vacuum. 

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« Reply #5426 on: October 29, 2015, 03:43:26 PM »
what thread are you talking about

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1130669

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I would argue that the one of the greatest movements of art in recent memories is the Indie Game Dev scene

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I went to IndieCade this past week. Everything was a shitty attempt at Pixel Art, Metroid and Dark Souls.
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« Reply #5427 on: October 29, 2015, 03:47:15 PM »
what thread are you talking about

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1130669

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I would argue that the one of the greatest movements of art in recent memories is the Indie Game Dev scene

 :picard

I went to IndieCade this past week. Everything was a shitty attempt at Pixel Art, Metroid and Dark Souls.
yuck bad pixel art

any examples?
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« Reply #5428 on: October 29, 2015, 03:48:20 PM »
BTW, if you"re interested, there's a Youtube session of the 08:46 thing, you can judge for yourself. It is a bit shoddy on account of being a school project (terrible accents, for one).

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« Reply #5429 on: October 29, 2015, 03:48:22 PM »
So is it the general hypocrisy that some display because they play CoD or their inability to go into detail about the subject matter of the game is off limits to them. Those are two different problems. And maybe some of them do actually have a problem and aren't hypocrites, so you might not want to cast that wide of a net?
My net isnt wide, my net is limited to the context of videogames where BF and COD makes billions and the subject matter is largely ignored while this is being pounced on like a thirsty nerd at a strip club. This isnt about some exceptional snowflakes, like you, mods help or me that would be willing to look at both cases, recognize the offense and try and understand or apply empathy, it's that the general outpouring is unashamedly and blatantly ME ME ME ME my offense matters more than yours.

This shit isnt in a vacuum.

Fair enough mang I get you.

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« Reply #5430 on: October 29, 2015, 03:50:05 PM »
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=183402648&postcount=210

Quote from: machemachete
Thats why japanese RPG seems superior. I don't want boring lord of the rings wannabes and surely having waifu wars on /a/ or /v/ is fun.

(Image removed from quote.)

Different strokes for different folks I guess? I can see why a lot of western people like the super crude and socially realistic depictions of humans in Fallout, Mass Effect, etc etc.

After all, we all play videogames just for fun.

 
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and surely having waifu wars is fun.


:beli
I never get the appeal of the "waifu wars" thing. It's just basically unfunny shitposting.

And that pic is enough to make me not want to take his opinion seriously. :yuck
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« Reply #5431 on: October 29, 2015, 03:50:33 PM »
So is it the general hypocrisy that some display because they play CoD or their inability to go into detail about the subject matter of the game is off limits to them. Those are two different problems. And maybe some of them do actually have a problem and aren't hypocrites, so you might not want to cast that wide of a net?
My net isnt wide, my net is limited to the context of videogames where BF and COD makes billions and the subject matter is largely ignored while this is being pounced on like a thirsty nerd at a strip club. This isnt about some exceptional snowflakes, like you, mods help or me that would be willing to look at both cases, recognize the offense and try and understand or apply empathy, it's that the general outpouring is unashamedly and blatantly ME ME ME ME my offense matters more than yours.

This shit isnt in a vacuum.

Fair enough mang I get you.
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« Reply #5432 on: October 29, 2015, 03:51:33 PM »
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=183402648&postcount=210

Quote from: machemachete
Thats why japanese RPG seems superior. I don't want boring lord of the rings wannabes and surely having waifu wars on /a/ or /v/ is fun.

(Image removed from quote.)

Different strokes for different folks I guess? I can see why a lot of western people like the super crude and socially realistic depictions of humans in Fallout, Mass Effect, etc etc.

After all, we all play videogames just for fun.

 
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and surely having waifu wars is fun.


:beli

it doesn't get any more cancerous than this

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« Reply #5433 on: October 29, 2015, 03:53:05 PM »

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« Reply #5434 on: October 29, 2015, 03:53:19 PM »

My problem with blacks

I don't agree with a variety of this but you make a good point about something that really makes me roll my eyes: the constant attempt to get rustled over trivial shit. Ellen DeGeneres recently did a skit where she did a parody of Nikki Minaj, including her butt. Multiple think pieces emerged arguing this was racist or stereotyped, bringing up the long history of  black women being mocked by teh white manz. Jesus fuck are you shitting me? Same with the Nicki Minaj/MTV thing. Never mind that the vast majority of "video of the year" nominees were people of color, nevermind that Beyonce has a similar body type to Nicki. People STILL defended her lazy attempt at playing the race/gender card.

There seems to be a persistent focus on embracing a victim mentality and applying it to every fucking thing. It seems like a month doesn't go by without something like this happening. It's trivial and insulting to actual grievances that are being discussed.

The main problem isn't making fun of Nicki Minja's butt. I don't think you saw the actual video.

You can argue that it's not targeting black women, but many black girls grow up having bigger than average butts, and many men start sexualizing them as early as 10 to 12 years old due to that. You can argue that it's targeted at Nicki, but Nicki isn't the only black woman with a big butt, and one should be careful when sexualizing a child, period., because There is nothing right about the skit. It's just tacky in general.

Let's say this was flipped and it had a famous black guy with a big hung dick as a child, and he came downstairs with his big dick and his big balls slapping the stair banister. Sure, you could argue it's targeted at the famous guy who's hung as fuck, but the truth of the matter is that black men are sexualized and exotified every day for having supposedly having big dicks, and are seen as offering nothing more than that. So you make a skit making fun of his big dick, despite the history, despite the context, despite the fact it's a CHILD. Sure, the idea sounds pretty funny, but it doesn't make the situation any less weird or disgusting, whether it's a boy or girl. This should not have been done, period. And anyone who is saying it's okay because "it's a joke" is wrong, period. You do not sexualize children, even as jokes. I don't see how or why this is a hard concept to grasp. We have lines, and we do not sexualize kids, even if jokingly. But apparently all bets are off when the child is black.

The fact you're unwilling to understand why some people not like it and pass it off as merely playing the victim card is pretty cute as much as it exposes your own limited life experience.

The next time you make fun of a pedo on gaf remember that you defended Ellen sexualizing a child.

:snoop

Seriously though. Not a good look for a black person to bring up victim cards. You sound like Don Lemon or Ben Carson, dude. Are there cases where people take it too far? Yeah, you bet your ass. But that's what happens when you have to live your life on the defensive. Some people are going to be wrong, but it's your job as a black person to support them and explain to them in a more rational and caring manner. Or at least, try to understand why they're mad. Instead, you're throwing entirely valid black opinions under the bus, because you disagree with them, and argue them away as playing the victim.

Not a good look at all. Looks mad churlish and Don Lemon-esque.

I wasn't going to respond but

1) It's a harmless comedic skit that *gasps* exaggerates a signature part of her. Her parents, ie mom and dad, also have big butts in the skit. Nor do I view this as some sexualization of a child. Not even going to respond do your laughable comparison.

2) Extrapolating that on a macro level to tie it into some historical trend of oppression is laughable, and ties right into what I've been complaining about. This is lazy as fuck and typical of how Minaj is defended. Nevermind her behavior or the dumb shit she says, there is always some chump with an iMac ready to defend her and cast her as an avatar of black oppression.

3) You are a troll who has slurred trans women among other groups. I'm not buying your newfound act.

4)  :doge
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« Reply #5435 on: October 29, 2015, 03:53:33 PM »
So is it the general hypocrisy that some display because they play CoD or their inability to go into detail about the subject matter of the game is off limits to them. Those are two different problems. And maybe some of them do actually have a problem and aren't hypocrites, so you might not want to cast that wide of a net?
My net isnt wide, my net is limited to the context of videogames where BF and COD makes billions and the subject matter is largely ignored while this is being pounced on like a thirsty nerd at a strip club. This isnt about some exceptional snowflakes, like you, mods help or me that would be willing to look at both cases, recognize the offense and try and understand or apply empathy, it's that the general outpouring is unashamedly and blatantly ME ME ME ME my offense matters more than yours.

This shit isnt in a vacuum.

Good point. I doubt those people didn't give a fuck about battle field hardline. While I thought it was wrong when it was first announced. And know for a fact I regularly critique gaming for its reliance on violence.

meeb

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Re: The Bore does what NeoGAF doesn't.
« Reply #5436 on: October 29, 2015, 03:56:15 PM »
Personally I can't wait for the holocaust VR experience.

Shouldn't be too long now before being a real commercially viable thing. One or two generations I'd say and who knows, maybe even in an Holocaust memorial.

I mean there's a book called The Devil's Arithmetic which is about a girl getting an extremely high fidelity Holocaust VR experience. Only through gypsy magic or some such thing rather than Oculus Rift. 

VomKriege

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Re: The Bore does what NeoGAF doesn't.
« Reply #5437 on: October 29, 2015, 04:13:43 PM »
Personally I can't wait for the holocaust VR experience.

Shouldn't be too long now before being a real commercially viable thing. One or two generations I'd say and who knows, maybe even in an Holocaust memorial.

I mean there's a book called The Devil's Arithmetic which is about a girl getting an extremely high fidelity Holocaust VR experience. Only through gypsy magic or some such thing rather than Oculus Rift.

And a movie too with Kirsten Dunst, Brittany Murphy !
It's not exactly the same thing too. You still are expected to tackle this stuff with some tact whatever the media, but you still have some distance with a book and a movie. You're still reading / watching stuff happen to a third party. VR claims to abolish that and the pushback will be proportional to the immersion, as long as the Holocaust is held as it is in the Western world. Which probably won't last too long.
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bluemax

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Re: The Bore does what NeoGAF doesn't.
« Reply #5438 on: October 29, 2015, 04:34:52 PM »
what thread are you talking about

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1130669

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I would argue that the one of the greatest movements of art in recent memories is the Indie Game Dev scene

 :picard

I went to IndieCade this past week. Everything was a shitty attempt at Pixel Art, Metroid and Dark Souls.
yuck bad pixel art

any examples?

Surprisingly I can't find the majority of them on the IndieCade site which smartly chose to largely focus on shit that isn't Dark Souls x Metroidvania x Pixel Art except this one: http://www.indiecade.com/games/selected/deaths-gambit

But seriously you can look for games here:

http://www.indiecade.com/e3_2015/games

A fun "game" to play is to search for buzzwords like "rogue like", "rogue lite", "steampunk", "dark souls", "retro", "pixel art", "puzzle", "physics", "brutally hard" and so on and see how many hits you get.

Edit derp, just realized I was on the wrong section of their site, this is the stuff that was there last week:

http://www.indiecade.com/2015/games
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Mr. Nobody

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Re: The Bore does what NeoGAF doesn't.
« Reply #5439 on: October 29, 2015, 04:38:04 PM »
Not gonna lie, laughed hard at "bro shock"

Mods Help

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Re: The Bore does what NeoGAF doesn't.
« Reply #5440 on: October 29, 2015, 04:49:23 PM »
what thread are you talking about

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1130669

Quote
I would argue that the one of the greatest movements of art in recent memories is the Indie Game Dev scene

 :picard

I went to IndieCade this past week. Everything was a shitty attempt at Pixel Art, Metroid and Dark Souls.
yuck bad pixel art

any examples?

Surprisingly I can't find the majority of them on the IndieCade site which smartly chose to largely focus on shit that isn't Dark Souls x Metroidvania x Pixel Art except this one: http://www.indiecade.com/games/selected/deaths-gambit

But seriously you can look for games here:

http://www.indiecade.com/e3_2015/games

A fun "game" to play is to search for buzzwords like "rogue like", "rogue lite", "steampunk", "dark souls", "retro", "pixel art", "puzzle", "physics", "brutally hard" and so on and see how many hits you get.

Edit derp, just realized I was on the wrong section of their site, this is the stuff that was there last week:

http://www.indiecade.com/2015/games

First link:

Rogue like - 0 results
Rogue lite - 0 results
Rogue - 0 results
steampunk - 1 results
Puzzle - 8 results some of which are used in the description for the same game and for some reason two puzzle games are listed twice. In actuality there's only 4 puzzle games on that list according to Ctrl f.
Pixel art - 0 results
Pixel - 2 results
Physics - 3 results, only two unique games listed.

The second link mostly has 0 results except for 1 result for puzzle.

Oh no, gaming has trends!

I'm pretty positive the games you work on are completely new and 100% creative and innovative. Bucking the trend! Take that indie developers, where I can only name four puzzle games!

::)

Jansen

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Re: The Bore does what NeoGAF doesn't.
« Reply #5441 on: October 29, 2015, 04:54:59 PM »
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=183405902&postcount=3340

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I agree.  Usually this type of character are the worse in JRPGs, but they made her likable here.  And to be fair she's a kid in outward appearance only.  She's much older age-wise than Sorey, Mikleo and Rose.

 

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archie4208

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Re: The Bore does what NeoGAF doesn't.
« Reply #5442 on: October 29, 2015, 04:57:53 PM »
Unironically use the 1000 year old dragon joke, brehs.

Shadow Mod

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Re: The Bore does what NeoGAF doesn't.
« Reply #5443 on: October 29, 2015, 05:02:24 PM »
Also be named after a shitty emo naruto character brehs.

 :sabu

Also to myself: know what his name is referencing sis, time to take the L.

curly

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Re: The Bore does what NeoGAF doesn't.
« Reply #5444 on: October 29, 2015, 05:22:59 PM »
Also be named after a shitty emo naruto character brehs.

 :sabu

Also to myself: know what his name is referencing sis, time to take the L.

Sasuke's the emo one, Itachi has his shit together  :ufup

Shadow Mod

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Re: The Bore does what NeoGAF doesn't.
« Reply #5445 on: October 29, 2015, 05:28:49 PM »
They both emo, Sasuke is the worst tho.

Atramental

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Re: The Bore does what NeoGAF doesn't.
« Reply #5446 on: October 29, 2015, 05:30:06 PM »
Your waifu is shit and underaged, GAF.  :doge

Phoenix Dark

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Re: The Bore does what NeoGAF doesn't.
« Reply #5447 on: October 29, 2015, 05:34:11 PM »
NERDS  :doge
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tiesto

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Re: The Bore does what NeoGAF doesn't.
« Reply #5448 on: October 29, 2015, 05:49:16 PM »
^_^

FStop7

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Re: The Bore does what NeoGAF doesn't.
« Reply #5449 on: October 29, 2015, 05:56:49 PM »
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1131668

I once made the unfortunate discovery that there is an entire sub-category on xhamster and xvideos dedicated to dudes dropping loads on photos of women they know, celebrities, etc. 

Phoenix Dark

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Re: The Bore does what NeoGAF doesn't.
« Reply #5450 on: October 29, 2015, 06:02:44 PM »
Remember when Amir0x took a pic of him nutting on a pic of Oli's gf? What a trend setter.  :doge
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stufte

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Re: The Bore does what NeoGAF doesn't.
« Reply #5451 on: October 29, 2015, 06:04:52 PM »
Weaponized genitalia eh? Sounds like something you'd see in an anime.

Rahxephon91

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Re: The Bore does what NeoGAF doesn't.
« Reply #5452 on: October 29, 2015, 06:15:30 PM »
Man I wish I could go back to the time when the stereotypes about anime where that it was overly violent, adult erotic, and stupidly philosophical.

stufte

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Re: The Bore does what NeoGAF doesn't.
« Reply #5453 on: October 29, 2015, 06:19:03 PM »
Man I wish I could go back to the time when the stereotypes about anime where that it was overly violent, adult erotic, and stupidly philosophical.

Ninja Scroll still exists. Just keep watching that and ignore all the new shit.

bluemax

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Re: The Bore does what NeoGAF doesn't.
« Reply #5454 on: October 29, 2015, 06:25:02 PM »
what thread are you talking about

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1130669

Quote
I would argue that the one of the greatest movements of art in recent memories is the Indie Game Dev scene

 :picard

I went to IndieCade this past week. Everything was a shitty attempt at Pixel Art, Metroid and Dark Souls.
yuck bad pixel art

any examples?

Surprisingly I can't find the majority of them on the IndieCade site which smartly chose to largely focus on shit that isn't Dark Souls x Metroidvania x Pixel Art except this one: http://www.indiecade.com/games/selected/deaths-gambit

But seriously you can look for games here:

http://www.indiecade.com/e3_2015/games

A fun "game" to play is to search for buzzwords like "rogue like", "rogue lite", "steampunk", "dark souls", "retro", "pixel art", "puzzle", "physics", "brutally hard" and so on and see how many hits you get.

Edit derp, just realized I was on the wrong section of their site, this is the stuff that was there last week:

http://www.indiecade.com/2015/games

First link:

Rogue like - 0 results
Rogue lite - 0 results
Rogue - 0 results
steampunk - 1 results
Puzzle - 8 results some of which are used in the description for the same game and for some reason two puzzle games are listed twice. In actuality there's only 4 puzzle games on that list according to Ctrl f.
Pixel art - 0 results
Pixel - 2 results
Physics - 3 results, only two unique games listed.

The second link mostly has 0 results except for 1 result for puzzle.

Oh no, gaming has trends!

I'm pretty positive the games you work on are completely new and 100% creative and innovative. Bucking the trend! Take that indie developers, where I can only name four puzzle games!

::)

Don't hate me because I'm hyperbolic whodat.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1131668

I once made the unfortunate discovery that there is an entire sub-category on xhamster and xvideos dedicated to dudes dropping loads on photos of women they know, celebrities, etc.

There are sections of reddit where people ask to be "tributed". I hate that I know this.
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bluemax

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Re: The Bore does what NeoGAF doesn't.
« Reply #5455 on: October 29, 2015, 06:26:22 PM »
Oh I see how it is!
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Yulwei

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Re: The Bore does what NeoGAF doesn't.
« Reply #5456 on: October 29, 2015, 06:32:22 PM »
indie games  :trash

Atramental

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Re: The Bore does what NeoGAF doesn't.
« Reply #5457 on: October 29, 2015, 06:35:54 PM »
games :trash

Kara

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Re: The Bore does what NeoGAF doesn't.
« Reply #5458 on: October 29, 2015, 06:46:48 PM »
art :trash

Shadow Mod

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Re: The Bore does what NeoGAF doesn't.
« Reply #5459 on: October 29, 2015, 06:47:35 PM »
entertainment :trash