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agrajag

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Re: The Bore does what NeoGAF doesn't.
« Reply #21540 on: July 10, 2016, 11:15:49 PM »
So why call it anti-humor? It's a dumb word. They're trying to make you laugh. You're laughing. It's not anti-anything.
Because it's "anti" the norm of humor. And it's more funny that it plays off those norms.

 On The Eric Andre Show you expect Andre to be doing an interview with a celebrity and making jokes based around his questions, like most talk shows.

 Instead he almost always cuts himself off with something else absurd or changes the topic immediately.

 Like instead of playing off of Tyler when he asks him if he believes in god, he swerves by blasting an airhorn and tells Tyler his dad is there as he balls in tears. It's even more funny as you try to find the implication or meaning, when there is none.

 It comes completely out the left-field.

 But explaining comedy is dumb, you either get it or you don't.

I get what they're doing, it's kind of like free form jazz version of comedy. I find absurdist humor a more apt description, because as I said, you can arrive to humor through different avenues, but at the end of the day humor is just something that provokes laughter. So saying something that's supposed to provoke laughter is "anti-humor" is silly.

I find this brand of humor mildly amusing at best, however I do get it. I just don't agree with the silly nomenclature.

For the most part, I find that people on the internet have way too high-brow senses of humor for me, but hey, whatever blows your skirt up. I like stuff that's a little more mundane I guess.

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« Reply #21541 on: July 10, 2016, 11:42:33 PM »
Critical analysis doesn't concern itself with the effort the creator put into an image, just that the image is there and readable, and follows a certain logic the critic decides on. But besides that, Norm Macdonald is an art house comedian with a love of genre jokes, he's most definitely put more details into jokes and their meaning than I could gather. Critical analysis is about the viewer finding meaning in art, from whatever their view point is.
Norm MacDonald is, as far as anti-humor goes at least, an actual champion of the working class. Conan may drape himself shiny trucker clothes, but that's a farce akin to Romney visiting a small-town factory on the campaign trail. Where the other imagery of Norm's anti-humor monstrousity had mostly to do with their race or gender, Andy Richter is a monstrous vision of the workers united.

Of course, the race and gender aspect is still a part of it: Andy is hunched like an ape, and features a massive vagina-dentata mouth, in the tradition of Predator. But check the middle of Andy's transformation sequence: one of his hands walks around on its own, before joining with the body. There are a ton of horror movies where the hand revolts against the mind, as in District 9 - with obvious connotations. Here, though, Andy's body is entirely "hands". This isn't imagery of lost agency, but of communion. The workers literally unite as a single entity.

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« Reply #21542 on: July 10, 2016, 11:43:01 PM »
I don't know if high-brow is the right word in this instance, but I think it applies overall. I'm in a weird spot with comedy. People in real life laugh at stuff I think is really dumb, but people on forums think that the stuff I laugh at is dumb. I'm stuck in between!  :doge

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« Reply #21543 on: July 10, 2016, 11:50:24 PM »
it's the quintessential vita game

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The difficulty spike of the bosses is the worst part. Faceroll a dungeon just to get immediately btfo by the boss and have to go back and grind on those same easy enemies for a couple of hours, brehs.  :'(
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« Reply #21544 on: July 11, 2016, 12:13:13 AM »
it's the quintessential vita game

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The difficulty spike of the bosses is the worst part. Faceroll a dungeon just to get immediately btfo by the boss and have to go back and grind on those same easy enemies for a couple of hours, brehs.  :'(

I kept waiting for the dungeons to get tough. Instead it was a dumb grind fest and once the dungeons got to be 3, 4 floors i was done

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« Reply #21545 on: July 11, 2016, 12:20:36 AM »
http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=1244901


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« Reply #21546 on: July 11, 2016, 01:28:49 AM »
I don't know if I'd classify Norm's latest material as anti-humor or not, I mostly wanted to post that Andy joke.

But if I were to think of the concept of "anti-humor" I think of it more tweaking with the delivery to make it falsely predictable, Norm almost always stretches out the setup and fiddles with it. He's got this whole bundle of 1920's/1930's jokes that he tells but because he's telling it, the setup becomes four minutes long for what when you remove all that Norm adds is like a first graders joke. Tim and Eric and Eric Andre Show is more absurdist but in a lot of their skits they'll do no punchline or an implied punchline or vice versa. Robot Chicken does a lot of straight punchline where just the image = the reference you need for the setup.

Another would be Norm's facetious learning about Hitler routine. It's multi-layered, he knows it's multi-layered but he doesn't care, the humor is what matters and so he does it because it's funny. That becomes anti-humor in this day and age where doing multi-layered jokes intentionally and designing them as such IS common stand-up instead of them being spontaneous and not requiring beats to hit which is what Norm and others do in their stand up. Louis CK touches on it in that roundtable with him Jerry, Chris Rock and Gervais, he knows the punchlines and the beats and everything inbetween can be different everytime he tells the joke. The other three don't do that, Aziz doesn't do that, most comedians don't do that.

I've seen the argument that Jerry Seinfeld is now "anti-humor" because everyone else lifted the observational part of his jokes that make people laugh because for whatever reason US SHARING LIFE EXPERIENCES IS FUNNY, without his perfect construction and sly punchlines, so he drifted from the former. Same with how his show was groundbreaking and then everyone else tried to copy it but Always Sunny is the only one to take its core joke (that the main characters are morally deficient and not really to be liked/seen as heroes/etc.) to the logical extrapolation of it. (Chuck Lorre's written about this and disliked it, so I suppose if Seinfeld = humor, then Two and a Half Men/Big Bang Theory are anti-humor too.)

In that four comedians thing they also discuss owing the audience. Jerry is of the mind that the audience comes to see a specific show and the comedian owes it to them to deliver what they want. Norm and Louis CK don't care...Tim and Eric don't care...they care more about whether it's funny to them and their mates.

Norm mentions the Bob Saget roast, but the audience didn't get it at all, it was dead silent according to people there vs. the CC edit with the laugh track and changed footage. But the older comedians (Saget, Jeff Ross, etc.) were dying at it. Because he was taking the old jokes and using them as if they were what has become traditional roast jokes which are in many ways, not good jokes, they generally aren't repeatable. (Jeff Ross' speed-roasting is garbage, his jokes in the prison special were better because he got to know the people. He's the "roast king" more, and he's said as much, because he's not afraid to get rid of a great joke that presents itself out of fear of hitting too close/too soon. Geraldo and Patrice were similar in this view.)

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« Reply #21547 on: July 11, 2016, 01:29:31 AM »
 :nerds

still my favorite eric andre interview, even if I can make it through the first two parts of the joke the music gets me everytime



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« Reply #21548 on: July 11, 2016, 01:31:27 AM »
"do you mean like during a colonic?"

edit: also the part where she's confused that he actually wants to discuss her movie :lol
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agrajag

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« Reply #21549 on: July 11, 2016, 01:33:40 AM »
I don't think being meta is anti-humor. It's not like humor only has one convention that must be defied.

The Saget roast was very meta, the funniest part about it was just how stupefied the audience was at his routine. It's like he used then, unwittingly, as part of his set, the audience c was his straight man.

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« Reply #21550 on: July 11, 2016, 01:39:22 AM »
Season 3 of The Eric Andre show was perfect, not a weak episode in the bunch.

Hannibal Buress had a sketch show on comedy central last year, it was really, really bad. His last couple of specials have been good, and he's gone on record in the past saying he'll do easy shit for money. 

The number of failed sketch shows on comedy central has reached or surpassed a dozen.
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« Reply #21551 on: July 11, 2016, 01:40:20 AM »
Hey, this is kind off topic, but you're not the poster Faith from GAF, are you?


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« Reply #21552 on: July 11, 2016, 01:42:55 AM »
There's a point where you're attempting to distill so many grains of sand that the definition of metahumor or anti-humor describes literally everything and so nothing.

It's very postmodernist. Especially the vagina-dentata.

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« Reply #21553 on: July 11, 2016, 01:46:03 AM »
Nope.

I just like to have a piece of god every time I post  :preach
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« Reply #21554 on: July 11, 2016, 01:52:58 AM »
Right on religious-brah! :itagaki

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« Reply #21555 on: July 11, 2016, 03:45:30 AM »
"Hello GAF, is there something fishy about this 150$ PS4 on eBay sold by some rando using stock photos ? Also I already pulled the trigger."

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1242358

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« Reply #21556 on: July 11, 2016, 03:52:14 AM »
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You got a potential steal at 150$.

You paid thru PayPal so your protected.

Sounds like a clueless parent wants to get rid of a game console.

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« Reply #21557 on: July 11, 2016, 03:53:55 AM »
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=209667457&postcount=312
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Fucking nsflife picture right now. What is the matter with you

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« Reply #21558 on: July 11, 2016, 04:05:26 AM »
how fucking sheltered does someone have to be that they get upset over a tiny picture with some spiders in it? I guess GAF is not such a safe space after all.

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« Reply #21559 on: July 11, 2016, 07:19:06 AM »
holy fucking shit just when this thread couldn't be more nauseating it turns into a goddamn referendum on what qualifies as funny. is this thread dedicated to making fun of neogaf or aspecialthing
cmon ppl

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« Reply #21560 on: July 11, 2016, 07:34:59 AM »
Beats spontaneous rankings of Final Fantasy games, which was common before.

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« Reply #21561 on: July 11, 2016, 08:07:15 AM »
Final Fantay 7
Final Fantay 8
Final Fantay 11
Final Fantay 9
Final Fantay 12
Final Fantay 10
Final Fantay 6
Final Fantay 3
Final Fantay 14
Final Fantay 13


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« Reply #21562 on: July 11, 2016, 08:07:42 AM »
6 > 10 > 7 > 5 > 4 > 9 > the rest

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« Reply #21563 on: July 11, 2016, 08:08:55 AM »
Id put FFT on 4 but it's not canon

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« Reply #21564 on: July 11, 2016, 08:18:05 AM »
VI is the only good one
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« Reply #21565 on: July 11, 2016, 08:19:45 AM »
Never even finished 6 I think, don't really remember. Think I was playing it on my GBA and got to where you wake up after the world has ended or something.

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« Reply #21567 on: July 11, 2016, 08:21:34 AM »
Trick question all final fantasy is :trash
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« Reply #21568 on: July 11, 2016, 08:26:10 AM »
Trick question all final fantasy is :trash
Fuck you.  Final Fantasy Tactics is god tier and 8 is the best numbered FF game.

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« Reply #21569 on: July 11, 2016, 08:30:24 AM »
Trick question all final fantasy is :trash


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« Reply #21570 on: July 11, 2016, 08:53:58 AM »
Amy Schumer is hot.

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« Reply #21571 on: July 11, 2016, 09:04:32 AM »
I'm gonna open my stand up show tonight at the ymca with these lines:

"If you hate the new ghostbusters, you're misogynist

If you like the new ghostbusters, you're sjw

What's the deal with that???"

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« Reply #21572 on: July 11, 2016, 09:05:21 AM »
I'm actually replaying FF6 currently  :lol

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« Reply #21573 on: July 11, 2016, 09:23:20 AM »
Gold/Silver
Black/White
Red/Blue
Diamond/Pearl
X/Y
Ruby/Sapphire

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« Reply #21574 on: July 11, 2016, 09:26:32 AM »
Think of all the cool people you've known in your life.

Did any of them play final fantasy? 🤔
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« Reply #21575 on: July 11, 2016, 09:28:39 AM »
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=209625513&postcount=53

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Scruffy pigs.
that's the "don't say lame" guy

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I expressed my view of an ideal process of revolution in contrast to theirs, focused on education (deprogramming capitalist indoctrination) and intentional planned and agreed upon restructuring of society.
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Communism is more about sustainability and looking after itself, so when you introduce outside battles it drains from that and transforms it away from its own identity. However, if we manage to progressively pacify and educate and globalize the world, I think we'll be approaching the right conditions needed to begin educating people in the concepts to participate in a functional communist system that isn't twisted away from itself. And having seen the 20th century, and not being in a rash, violent, revolutionary rush, we can carefully plan against the ways it can go wrong, so it doesn't get stolen away from the people as it did with Mao and Stalin and such.
You just need to have it be globally enacted, centrally planned and after a period of re-education!

smh someone needs to read some BA

And this guy got to the real issue:
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Guys you may agree with or not but over 100 people were injured at least show some sympathy.

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Re: The Bore does what NeoGAF doesn't.
« Reply #21576 on: July 11, 2016, 09:46:13 AM »
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=209625513&postcount=53

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Scruffy pigs.

Looks like East Berlin.  I was surprised at how dirty and rundown that party of the city was.

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« Reply #21577 on: July 11, 2016, 09:47:52 AM »
Think of all the cool people you've known in your life.

Did any of them play final fantasy? 🤔

http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/character/1825503/
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« Reply #21578 on: July 11, 2016, 10:00:02 AM »
Think of all the cool people you've known in your life.

Did any of them play final fantasy? 🤔

Many people on my HS football team were into FF.  Only the PSX FF games, they hated FFX
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« Reply #21579 on: July 11, 2016, 10:20:56 AM »
Think of all the cool people you've known in your life.

Did any of them play final fantasy? 🤔

me, my husband, my wife, and my wife's child all play it together

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« Reply #21580 on: July 11, 2016, 10:37:29 AM »
http://archive.is/FVJXV

Archived because it's very pretty and won't last.

LKBAP is getting dragged hard and I am surprised he's still trying.
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« Reply #21581 on: July 11, 2016, 10:43:27 AM »
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=209625513&postcount=53

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Scruffy pigs.

Looks like East Berlin.  I was surprised at how dirty and rundown that party of the city was.

Support communism bryhs

Yeah, actually the big clubbing renaissance that happened last decade in Berlin was because East Berlin had so many post-communist abandoned lofts and warehouses that served as cheap clubbing locales.
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« Reply #21582 on: July 11, 2016, 11:19:36 AM »
http://archive.is/FVJXV

Archived because it's very pretty and won't last.

LKBAP is getting dragged hard and I am surprised he's still trying.


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« Reply #21583 on: July 11, 2016, 11:22:40 AM »
http://archive.is/FVJXV

Archived because it's very pretty and won't last.

LKBAP is getting dragged hard and I am surprised he's still trying.
Besada, you'd better get your ass in gear, get in there ban some people and lock down that thread before your boy looks even dumber.
You're slacking bud  :gurl
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« Reply #21584 on: July 11, 2016, 11:50:10 AM »
first time I looked at that thread, I saw that it was 7 pages long and checked "who has voted", saw lkbap in the "not mexican but it's racist" list and called it a day.

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« Reply #21585 on: July 11, 2016, 11:53:04 AM »
http://archive.is/FVJXV

Archived because it's very pretty and won't last.

LKBAP is getting dragged hard and I am surprised he's still trying.
Besada, you'd better get your ass in gear, get in there ban some people and lock down that thread before your boy looks even dumber.
You're slacking bud  :gurl

LKBAP switched to a Personally Approved LKBAP thread already, so it's all good.
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« Reply #21586 on: July 11, 2016, 12:05:14 PM »
some people in there were saying a mexican themed party is racist  :lol

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« Reply #21587 on: July 11, 2016, 12:45:01 PM »
Holy shit did LKBAP get bodied! :lol :dead

I could kiss that Mega poster!

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« Reply #21588 on: July 11, 2016, 12:48:42 PM »
I see nothing wrong with a racially themed party and you can miss me with "my race isn't a costume" shit. If it's in good fun and isn't propagating negative stereotypes who gives a fuck. It's in jest, who cares.
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« Reply #21589 on: July 11, 2016, 12:52:15 PM »
The my race isn't a costume rhetoric makes no sense see for Mexican parties. Mexicans don't go around wearing ponchos and sombreros, they only do it at... parties!

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« Reply #21590 on: July 11, 2016, 01:03:03 PM »
Plus isn't Mexican a nationality, not a race?? I don't think the (Mexican) owner of the local Mexican joint is offended when he gives me a sombrero to wear and a complimentary shot of tequila when I eat there on my birthday.
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« Reply #21591 on: July 11, 2016, 01:06:55 PM »
Oh, so I guess because the Mexican owner of the restaurant has to play to your ridiculous stereotypes in order to continue feeding his family that that makes it okay?
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« Reply #21592 on: July 11, 2016, 01:07:24 PM »
The my race isn't a costume rhetoric makes no sense see for Mexican parties. Mexicans don't go around wearing ponchos and sombreros, they only do it at... parties!
Shut up, racist.

That thread with the dudes saying how they're afraid of being called pedos is awesome. Not surprising though.

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« Reply #21593 on: July 11, 2016, 01:10:47 PM »
Holy shit did LKBAP get bodied! :lol :dead

I could kiss that Mega poster!
Seriously. I'd happily buy that dude a pint and a chaser.

Noticing more resistance to the usual obnoxious fuckery lately.

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« Reply #21594 on: July 11, 2016, 01:33:43 PM »

Thankfully, Dice has figured out how to make Communism "work" unlike the other times:

Hickory, dickory, dock
Some bourgeoisie bitch was suckin' my cock
At the end of the seduction
I seized the means of production
and established a Communist bloc!  OH!


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« Reply #21595 on: July 11, 2016, 01:37:01 PM »
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A little girl ran behind me for cover when her brother was being mean. I felt awkward as fuck

Lets not mention swimming pools....I stopped going there because of the little kids

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« Reply #21596 on: July 11, 2016, 01:39:13 PM »
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A little girl ran behind me for cover when her brother was being mean. I felt awkward as fuck

Lets not mention swimming pools....I stopped going there because of the little kids

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« Reply #21597 on: July 11, 2016, 01:48:18 PM »
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I'm glad this thread got made because I face this problem everyday and just searching anything online regarding the subject raises a huge red flag for me. Basically everyday I'm put in a situation where I have to take care of my sister's 4 year old kid (pretty much since he was born) by myself for maybe 40-60min while my dad takes her to work.

I'm the only one in the house that is available at that time because I work from home and everyone else has to be somewhere in the morning. After my dad arrives he takes care of the kid throughout the day. I hate to sound like such a bad person, but the time that I spend with that kid is pretty much the worst part of my day. He'll put himself in extremely uncomfortable situations(for me) like spilling something all over, making a mess, and needing a change of clothes where I'd have to verbally walk him through changing because I refuse to interact with him physically. The worst is when he has to go to the bathroom and he asks me to wipe him, and I have to wait for my dad to come home to help him out.

Anytime I complain about this stuff I'm seen as an asshole uncle who doesn't care about his nephew, but I'd honestly take that than someone thinking I'm some sort of perv.

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« Reply #21598 on: July 11, 2016, 01:49:31 PM »
Ha I was just to copy that what a total splerg how does he even function.

also why is it ok for his dad to help wipe but not him?  :lol

must be a troll

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Re: The Bore does what NeoGAF doesn't.
« Reply #21599 on: July 11, 2016, 01:59:19 PM »
Wait, so he sits there and waits for his dad to get back whole his little nephew has a shitty unwiped ass? :gurl