Tokyo Game Show 2015

[Rufus]

That's a bad argument considering FF7 remake is as important if not more important than XV.

Presseing, as in, get it the fuck done already.

[Mods Help]

The FFXV video is good but not worth the hyperbole on this page about no Nomura. They're riiding chocobos and fishing, so what. Looks good but like, every FF has the former, and fishing should have been in FF  a long time ago, so it's a pretty big "whatever".

[The Legend of Sunblade]

I don't see what's hyperbolic about saying that XV without Nomura has produced more tangible results than a whole decade of fake trailers and zero playable game stuff. 

[Mods Help]

Nope, it came off as "well this looks exceptional and without Nomura's help" rather than "wow it's an actual game now" because there's nothing in that gif of video that conjures up some of the reactions to the point where people are like,"I hope Nomura isn't doing anything related to anything final fantasy" when the entire last generation of FF was one failed experiment after the other and wasn't entirely on Nomura. It is hyperbole, especially you have footage of characters riding Chocobo's, a standard FF feature, and the reaction is "this is what happens when Nomura isn't on the project".

[Kara]

Belts help

[thisismyusername]

Nope, it came off as "well this looks exceptional and without Nomura's help" rather than "wow it's an actual game now" because there's nothing in that gif of video that conjures up some of the reactions to the point where people are like,"I hope Nomura isn't doing anything related to anything final fantasy" when the entire last generation of FF was one failed experiment after the other and wasn't entirely on Nomura. It is hyperbole, especially you have footage of characters riding Chocobo's, a standard FF feature, and the reaction is "this is what happens when Nomura isn't on the project".

Except three of those four "failed experiments" came out within 5 years or so. Can you say the same for Nomura's output?

See, FF14 may have flopped hard. But it came out, flopped. Square panic-moded to where the game ACTUALLY BECAME GOOD from them putting a ton of work in. FFAgito13--er--"Type-0" came out, may not be everyones cup of tea but came out.

FF13? Everyone but a vocal minority dislikes it, but it came out.

FFvs13--er--"15?" *tumbleweeds*

It's no wonder Nomura has been kicked off the FFvs13 and Kingdom Hearts 3 teams. He doesn't have a time-table for his projects to reasonably come out. So, if you want me to say it: "I hope Nomura isn't doing anything related to anything Final Fantasy." Because instead of waiting ten years under his directorship, at least his art-design will be made and done within two-three years.

[Mods Help]

"they came out" is a pretty bad reasoning given ff13 needed three games just recoup costs. either way, square sucked last generation in general, and dumping it all on nomura doesn't really seem fair in the least especially in regards to a company that released cockadookie like ff14 og.

[mormapope]

*Misread a point about FFXIII.

If we're talking about raw output and quality, Square Enix dropped the ball extraordinarily compared to the PS2 gen. Look at everything that doesn't involve Nomura, and it becomes apparent that Square Enix has had some really weird bullshit happening on all fronts.

[mormapope]

I don't think the guy is hot shit and that FFXV needed his vision or that he still should be working on the game, but you have to remember that upper management let the dude fuck around with something for some amount of time. There is no way that shit was constantly in development for ten years, Versus was touch and go for its entire lifetime.

Metal Gear Rising could've stayed in development hell if Kojima or whomever never pulled the plug on something that never really existed. Versus should've been canned or have a creative direction change five years ago.

Except three of those four "failed experiments" came out within 5 years or so. Can you say the same for Nomura's output?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tetsuya_Nomura

If you look at his output up until FFXIII, the dude directed and produced a bunch of shit during the PS2 gen. He was able to push games out of the door pretty quickly for six or so years.

[thisismyusername]

"they came out" is a pretty bad reasoning given ff13 needed three games just recoup costs.

Because of how long it took FFvs13 and 14 to come out. 13 came out, wasn't a complete shitshow and made some money back. But 14 bled them hard. Do you remember they had to redesign the entire thing to "save face" and not leave the thing to die as a 14-million (or whatever the dev cost for 1.0) flop?

If you look at his output up until FFXIII, the dude directed and produced a bunch of shit during the PS2 gen. He was able to push games out of the door pretty quickly for six or so years.

And then he burned out because he was working on nearly every Square product in the company. Either as an artist, as a supervisor, a writer, or all the above. It happens to everyone that gets overloaded.

He's better when he only has to manage ONE project. But even then he had to deal with Square wanting to use a non-Middleware engine for the "13 mythos"/Crystal Tools. Part of the blame is on Square for that. Majority of the blame is on him for not getting more than 2-5 screenshots and like 2-3 trailers out within 10 years. Especially after FF13 launched, there should've been a "all-hands-on-deck" moment where they were pushing to at least get a vs13 demo out to the public so people would stop saying it's vaporware, but they didn't.

[Trent Dole]

lol ff

[chronovore]

i am SO ready for Japan to make a comeback in western markets

Enjoy the wait!

[Bebpo]

heheehehehehehehehe

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I wasn't going to say anything 

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[Positive Touch]

you guys.... why........

[tiesto]

I think they're already coming back, a bit. Instead of shooting for the moon and missing, JP companies are slowly starting to come around to satisfying their overseas consumers and have more reasonable sales expectations.

And even though Japan has a hardon for mobile, the amount of upcoming games that appeal to me is probably the most in a decade.

[Mr. Gundam]

I think they're already coming back, a bit. Instead of shooting for the moon and missing, JP companies are slowly starting to come around to satisfying their overseas consumers and have more reasonable sales expectations.

And even though Japan has a hardon for mobile, the amount of upcoming games that appeal to me is probably the most in a decade.

Aside from the lack of a new Gundam title on the PS4, I'm seriously impressed with what's coming from Japanese developers.

[suppadoopa]

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Regarding Gravity Daze - it might be digital only in the states - SCEE is considering a physical copy though for the europoors though

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/le insider face

yeee digital onry confirmed


importan here i come

[chronovore]

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Regarding Gravity Daze - it might be digital only in the states - SCEE is considering a physical copy though for the europoors though

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/le insider face

yeee digital onry confirmed


importan here i come

You're using a Japanese PSN account for the store? If you need help with J-store PSN credit, let me know and we can work out something.