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mormapope

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Escape from L.A is a good movie
« on: September 24, 2015, 01:04:55 PM »
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Stoney Mason

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« Reply #1 on: September 24, 2015, 01:06:26 PM »
Always thought it was awesome. I think its a better and more clever film than the original.

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« Reply #2 on: September 24, 2015, 01:12:44 PM »
Escape from New York relies on its atmosphere, and the atmosphere is awesome. Kurt Russell carries the entire movie, as the other characters are only there to make Snake look like a mega badass.

Escape from L.A relies on its camp and humor, the characters are also a lot more lively and compliment the overall world much better. The CG is hilarious whenever its used, the special effects are still great, and the overall pacing is a lot more brisk versus Escape from New York.

Its a ton of fun to watch, and unlike some other action movies from the 80's and 90's, its really easy to go back to. Most Arnold movies are really boring now for me.
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« Reply #3 on: September 24, 2015, 01:16:54 PM »
I don't think a lot of people got Escape from LA when it was released. I came out of the theater blown away after seeing it, but most of my friends at the time hated it.

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« Reply #4 on: September 24, 2015, 01:28:15 PM »
Great flick. :lawd

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« Reply #5 on: September 24, 2015, 01:43:25 PM »
Its a good sequel.  I want more.  I want a time machine so KR can go back in time and look young and sexy again so he can star in movies again.

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« Reply #6 on: September 24, 2015, 01:52:02 PM »
I wish this era KR was in every movie ever.
Him and point break era Patrick Swayze should have done a bunch of buddy space skellywag movies :'(

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« Reply #7 on: September 24, 2015, 01:55:06 PM »
there's not a single John Carpenter film that I don't like at least a bit. EFLA may actually be one of his better pure comedies in fact.

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« Reply #8 on: September 24, 2015, 02:14:50 PM »
Dont hate, but I'm kinda not into The Thing or Halloween for that matter, I dont really like either as horrors.

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« Reply #9 on: September 24, 2015, 02:16:31 PM »
there's not a single John Carpenter film that I don't like at least a bit. EFLA may actually be one of his better pure comedies in fact.

I'm a big fan of Ghosts of Mars.

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« Reply #10 on: September 24, 2015, 02:17:44 PM »
Didn't like Ghosts of Mars but I haven't seen it since I was a kid.  Disliking the thing is pretty criminal though.  Momo, you are banned from my love. 

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« Reply #11 on: September 24, 2015, 02:20:00 PM »
Didn't like Ghosts of Mars but I haven't seen it since I was a kid.  Disliking the thing is pretty criminal though.  Momo, you are banned from my love. 
I dunno man, with horrors I have pretty stupidly high standards, nr.1 is it needs to terrify me, something only like 2 movies in my entire life has done

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« Reply #12 on: September 24, 2015, 02:21:03 PM »
The Thing is one of the best movies to watch during winter when there's a snow storm or you're snowed in
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They Live is one of my least favorite John Carpenter movies. The first half is incredibly slow, and it doesn't need to be.
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« Reply #13 on: September 24, 2015, 02:23:06 PM »
When I grow my hair out I look like KR in the thing.  It's the only thing that gives me pride.

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« Reply #14 on: September 24, 2015, 02:24:36 PM »
Dont hate, but I'm kinda not into The Thing or Halloween for that matter, I dont really like either as horrors.

Regarding The Thing as a straight horror movie is really the wrong approach, though. The main emotion there is paranoia, rather than fear. It's not the monster that's about to burst through the door, but your friend sitting right beside you. The Thing does exceedingly well at setting up an extreme claustrophobic and isolated mood, then fostering a growing paranoia that it never fully extinguishes, even at the very end. It's got a lot more in common with Invasion of the Body Snatchers.
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« Reply #15 on: September 24, 2015, 02:33:20 PM »
Dont hate, but I'm kinda not into The Thing or Halloween for that matter, I dont really like either as horrors.

Regarding The Thing as a straight horror movie is really the wrong approach, though. The main emotion there is paranoia, rather than fear. It's not the monster that's about to burst through the door, but your friend sitting right beside you. The Thing does exceedingly well at setting up an extreme claustrophobic and isolated mood, then fostering a growing paranoia that it never fully extinguishes, even at the very end. It's got a lot more in common with Invasion of the Body Snatchers.
You see, I get this, and this is the kind of horror I'm into, not the visceral ones, not the oh fuck pure evil or jump scare ones. The ones I like unsettles me mentally, like not a horror but memories of murder made me feel completely unsettled walking near drainage ditches, I'd just walk faster and would try to generally fuck off quickly for a good while after watching it. The idea behind it completely made my skin crawl re: serial killers as well.

The thing never clicked for me and it just made me meh and go back to drinking beer. I've tried watching it thrice now everytime with the intention of letting it come to me, it never did. :mjcry

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« Reply #16 on: September 24, 2015, 02:41:56 PM »
No, Momo.  :wag
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« Reply #17 on: September 24, 2015, 03:14:15 PM »
The Thing is one of those pretty much perfect films imo.

Into the Mouth of Madness is a flawed film but god damned if I don't love it warts and all.




Carpenter when he brought it, brought it.

Halloween is a classic imo but I understand why a modern audience might struggle with it, without the context of why it is so important and how it basically changed horror for the next 20-30 years.
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« Reply #18 on: September 24, 2015, 03:38:12 PM »
If you disregard his weird one-off movies like Starman and Memoirs of the Invisible Man, John Carpenter had an amazing run from the start of his career up to In the Mouth of Madness. Then he made Village of the Damned, and it all got a bit sideways. I'm not saying all his 70's-80's movies were great, The Fog and Prince of Darkness were kinda meh, but they still had some cool ideas. Ghost of Mars was just embarrassing, though.
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« Reply #19 on: September 24, 2015, 03:43:38 PM »
I like Starman.

The weird thing for me is how he made a couple of sub-par movies and then the studios took away his keys like grandpa was senile and its time to stop driving.

I mean everybody has a couple of real absolute clunkers in their filmography including the great directors.

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« Reply #20 on: September 24, 2015, 04:59:03 PM »
I'll say it, I like Ghosts of Mars.

Its Carpenter riffing on Carpenter, remaking his first successful film with as many goofy elements as possible (one part of it is a flashback within a flashback within a flashback). He spent a decent budget on not-great looking practical effects and made yet another siege picture, all seemingly to satisfy his intended audience of one, himself. Its the abject proof (along with Escape from LA) that no matter how many resources you give John Carpenter, he's incapable of not making scrappy B-pictures, and I love him desperately for that.

I even like Memoirs of an Invisible Man (its breezy), Starman (Bridges is great in it) and even Village of the Damned (fun performances from a game cast). If I had to pick the biggest outliers in his career, Christine would be near the top, as it feels kinda like Carpenter trying to make a companion piece to De Palma's Carrie, at least until its vehicular carnage heavy ending. In the Mouth of Madness is also a bit of a queer duck in his resume, but its also my choice for the best Lovecraftian film ever made.
The weird thing for me is how he made a couple of sub-par movies and then the studios took away his keys like grandpa was senile and its time to stop driving.

I mean everybody has a couple of real absolute clunkers in their filmography including the great directors.
I think, and interviews with him back this up, that he lost the fire in his belly needed to power through all the Hollywood BS nessecary to keep making films. Even as much as I like his later films, I'd even say that they're lacking a certain verve that he had earlier on (his most recent film only confirms this further). So rather then taint his legacy by putting out a bunch of bland, crappy films just to keep going (pulling an Argento), he decided to stay home and play a bunch of Xbox and compose music. I'm sure he's much happier that way.

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« Reply #21 on: September 24, 2015, 05:43:42 PM »
Village of the Damned is really weak. By far the least interesting film he did (haven't seen the Ward). He had the good sense to quit not too late.
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« Reply #22 on: September 24, 2015, 05:45:26 PM »
It's pretty good yeah, but escape from New York.  :lawd

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« Reply #23 on: September 24, 2015, 06:24:10 PM »
I like Prince of Darkness as well. It's such a talky picture though, I can see why it throws a lot of people off. Underrated Carpenter score too, I think it's one of his best.

Side Note: I remember reading some Carpenter piece a few years ago, and he was talking about how he got invited to some Masters of Horror con/festival and a bunch of big names were there like Cronenberg etc. He said he was miserable the whole time, that everyone was pretentious, he felt disrespected and how badly he wanted to go home and play xbox  :lol

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« Reply #24 on: September 24, 2015, 10:33:26 PM »
Prince of Darkness is a great movie. It's one of my favorites, if for no other reason that the dream transmissions filling me with dread.

I also agree that In the Mouth of Madness is the best HP Lovecraft movies ever.

I gotta go find Ghosts of Mars next. Never seen it, but now I want to.