Resident Evil Zero HD comes out on January 19th

[thisismyusername]

I only played the demo for Revelations 1, but it felt like some weird, mutant bastard child of RE4 and RE5.

It was, in a way. Which is where my " " comes in. Revelations 1 is touted by people to be "more in line with the classic survival horror" and while the atmosphere is nearly there, it's still got that over the shoulder shooting and bullet-spongy enemies unless you stumble-melee them like 4-6.

[Human Snorenado]

The only Resident Evil babies are the ones that cry and moan how RE4 killed the franchise.

Well, it did. I didn't get a "classic" style until Revelations 1. Which didn't reach the highs of 1-3.

I AM INCENSED THAT THE GAS STATION BURRITO I WAS USED TO WAS REPLACED BY A CHOICE, GRADE A FILET AND WISH TO REGISTER MY COMPLAINTS

[thisismyusername]

The only Resident Evil babies are the ones that cry and moan how RE4 killed the franchise.

Well, it did. I didn't get a "classic" style until Revelations 1. Which didn't reach the highs of 1-3.

I AM INCENSED THAT THE GAS STATION BURRITO I WAS USED TO WAS REPLACED BY A CHOICE, GRADE A FILET AND WISH TO REGISTER MY COMPLAINTS

Except 4 was wasn't even a Grade A Filet of Cow. More like Lamb.

[Mods Help]

CV and apparently 0 were trash and the series deserved a reboot. Old RE deserved to die and we got four great games out of them.

RE4 is also the best game ever made so it all balances out.

[thisismyusername]

The major problems with 0 and CV aren't the "classic formula." It's them doing things radically different from 1-3. People say the series needed to change up, but honestly: The classic formula was fine. I'm not opposed to 4 changing things up. It's a great game. But as far as the series goes, it doesn't fit with the other 3 (#duh) at the expense of Mikami leaving. In fact, I feel like the series has been on a full-on decline since Mikami left. Mikami oversaw CV and 0, which were bad. But he also oversaw Outbreak which was amazing in regards to doing co-op in the classic formula.

Then after Mikami left post-4 porting everywhere, we got forced co-op in 5 (which doesn't excuse the terrible AI. There really shouldn't have been limited ammo there. 6 fixes this, but even then 6's problem is being able to outrun nearly every enemy if you want to where it didn't really solve the dumb-AI problem there either), forced co-op in 6, Revelations which is a mish-mash of classic and post-45, etc. Of which they couldn't even get the atmosphere of 4 (which was REALLY good at that) nor the gameplay.

CV's major problem is in terms of story and 3D-izing the areas (neat idea at Dreamcast launch, but really didn't need to be done). Gameplay wise, it's alright with some questionable design decisions.

0's problem is that it's REALLY not needed in terms of canon (caring about this, I know I know) and "forced co-op" with an AI that wasn't really needed. You could take Billy out of the entire game and nothing would be lost. Same with the item backtrack: You could throw the magic item box in and the game would be wayyyy more tolerable than it is.

[Positive Touch]

shitting on 5 but using the word amazing to describe outbreak what in the name of God

[VomKriege]

I have no beef with the classic formula but there's only so much you can do with it. They didn't just mess with CV and Zero for the sake of it. Also tank controls and completely locked cameras were getting obsolete to the audience.

I'd also say that judging by the current state of horror games, the genre is way too quiet for games that had an action slant.

[Mods Help]

Online mercs.

Endless amounts of content.

The most amount of unlockables and hidden shit in an RE.

5 tears CV a new hole.

Why the fuck do I care about multiplayer or unlockables in an RE?

A huge part of RE's appeal is unlockables: speed running, getting new guns and costumes and unlocking new modes. RE5 did this in the best manner in the series. RE4 has a new game + that lets you keep all of your shit for fucks sake. RE2 has two different scenarios and hidden characters. RE3 has Mercenaries. RE games had ranking systems that unlocked special shit depending on how fast you beat it. RE5 has all of this and more. 50-70 hours of content. Shit is the funnest fucking thing.

Are Positive Touch and I the only fuckers alive who played games like MGS and RE for speed running and beating it as fast as possible to unlock badass shit? Do you people play these games once or something?

Resident Evil 5's unlockables:

http://m.ign.com/cheats/games/resident-evil-5-ps3-734381

[mormapope]

I've played Metal Gear Solid as a series way more than Resident Evil. Two years ago I only played MGS1 for a month or two and was close to beating MGS1 on hard in under three hours.

If I had to guess:

MGS1: 4 full playthoughs (tons of playthroughs where I'd start and restart to for speedrunning purposes though).

MGS2: 4-6 full playthroughs and all VR missions completed twice, top three for all VR missions

MGS3: 5-7 full playthroughs, did a european extreme no kill run.

Still haven't done a dog tag run of MGS2.

I've completed RE4 the most. Probably around 4 full playthroughs now. Did a professional playthrough last year.

[Fifstar]

Are Positive Touch and I the only fuckers alive who played games like MGS and RE for speed running and beating it as fast as possible to unlock badass shit? Do you people play these games once or something?

Yes 

[Positive Touch]

 

speedrunning can be damn fun and is a great way to fully analyze and understand a games mechanics, in addition to testing your skill and memorization. you're missing out if you never tried it.

[Rufus]

The only game I ever 'speedran' was Shadow of the Colossus. There are a lot of neat tricks you can do to launch yourself straight to the weakpoints. I beat all the official times, and even compared times with a friend (crushed all of hers ¦3). No other game has made me want to do that.

Well, I used to race in Path of Exile, but that got boring and the races are scheduled, so it's difficult to participate if you're not a streamer or a student.

I generally find it very difficult to spend a lot of time with a single player games unless they have loot and a lot of variety, i.e. non-static content. Just can't bring myself to push through the same stuff just to spot something I hadn't seen before. However I do enjoy watching other people do it in informative LPs or speedruns.

[bork]

Online mercs.

Endless amounts of content.

The most amount of unlockables and hidden shit in an RE.

5 tears CV a new hole.

Why the fuck do I care about multiplayer or unlockables in an RE?

Because all that stuff was fun as fuck in RE5?  I loved the hell out of that game.  Multiplayer was a blast.

[Rahxephon91]

Yeah, I never replay games for speed running. I play them for simple reasons. I like the gameplay, story events, senerioes, and just want to see them again.

That said, I do replay games pretty often.

I've played RE4 all the way through many times. Hilariously always on a new clean game, never a new game plus. I think I've played 5 at least 3 times. 2 on 360 and then the PS3 version. I just like the gameplay of 4 and 5(to a much lesser degree).

MGS? I've played through 1-3 too many times to count. Sometimes on a clean save, sometimes on a new game plus. It is fun to use tools and weapons where you couldn't normally.

[Rahxephon91]

I have I guess tried to "speed run" FFX and FFXII, but only on account of knowing those games pretty well after many playthroughs.

[Mods Help]

What I don't understand is that games like RE and MGS have replaying and speed running as a core part of their game design. Like, that's literally half of what you're doing in an RE game: unlocking shit till you get to beast mode. I guess some people don't find unlockables enticing, but I fucking love them. Getting incrimintally better shit and mastering the game to get rewarded with even better shit, and hard difficulty modes is a blast. I just don't get it. So when Walrus asks "who plays RE for unlockables?"

I'm like 

I mean, let's take a look at unlockables throughout the series:

RE DC:

Beat the game on any mode with Chris or Jill in less than 3:00 - Unlimited Rocket Launcher
Complete the game in Advanced mode and save all your partners - Unlimited Magnum
Complete the game once in Training or Standard mode with either character and save all your partners. - new costumes

And RE2?

Beat scenario 1 on normal difficulty in less than 2:30 with an A or B ranking - Infinite Rocket Launcher
Beat scenario 2 on normal difficulty in less than 3 hours with an A or B ranking - Machine Gun
Beat the second scenario on Normal difficulty in less than 2:30 and get an A or B ranking. - Gatling Gun
Complete scenario 1 and scenario 2 and get an A ranking on one of them, then save your game. - unlock Hunk
Complete six scenarios and get an A ranking on one of them, then save your game. - unlock Tofu

I guess most people when they're done with a game, even if they really like it, they go to the next game. I like to continue playing them until mastery and I'm fond of games that give mastery an incentive (unlockables) but these games have always had extra content and hidden shit upon hidden shit and it amazes me people have never seen it nor wanted to see it. They're literally made for speed running. It's like they've seen half the game but different strokes.

[archie4208]

I dropped this around the laboratory when Billy got knocked down a well by a mutant monkey and ended up watching the rest on Youtube.

The game had potential, but there were too many quality of life issues that prevented it from being very fun.  The lack of item boxes really fucked up my enjoyment.