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Joe Molotov

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Re: Dust 514 shuts down in May, Kara on suicide watch
« Reply #1 on: February 03, 2016, 10:10:57 AM »
rip kara(pbuh)
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Re: Dust 514 shuts down in May, Kara on suicide watch
« Reply #2 on: February 03, 2016, 10:17:38 AM »
Somehow not surprising Kara chose the one obscure game to play that has 200 players.

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Re: Dust 514 shuts down in May, Kara on suicide watch
« Reply #3 on: February 03, 2016, 10:46:47 AM »
Such a bad game. And bad idea.

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Re: Dust 514 shuts down in May, Kara on suicide watch
« Reply #4 on: February 04, 2016, 12:36:04 AM »
Such a bad game. And bad idea.

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Tying into a PC MMORPG as a console FPS in a market that really doesn't want that sort of thing. WHAT COULD POSSIBLY GO WRONG? :doge

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Re: Dust 514 shuts down in May, Kara on suicide watch
« Reply #5 on: February 04, 2016, 12:38:01 AM »
Played this for a couple of hours on the PS3 and it was god awful  :-X

Honestly surprised it even lasted this long.

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Re: Dust 514 shuts down in May, Kara on suicide watch
« Reply #6 on: February 05, 2016, 11:04:21 PM »
Implying Kara wasn't already on suicide watch

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Re: Dust 514 shuts down in May, Kara on suicide watch
« Reply #7 on: February 08, 2016, 08:10:20 PM »
How are there so many studios having trouble developing a space-marine FPS component. Are there insufficient examples of the form?

Kara

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Re: Dust 514 shuts down in May, Kara on suicide watch
« Reply #8 on: March 19, 2016, 01:33:46 AM »
It's nice to know that this thread got made. I mean, don't get me wrong, I expected it to get made, but I still appreciate that it did get made.

As for me, since I haven't been able to play in months (!!!), I set aside like 2 weeks of vacation in May to do nothing but play it with the 15 remaining people who still play after they shut off the cash shop and denied the players an outlet for their degenerate gambler tendencies. (If you never understood why anyone played this game, it was roughly the neckbeard equivalent of going to the horse track or OTB on a work day during work hours. I will miss that fix terribly.)

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Re: Dust 514 shuts down in May, Kara on suicide watch
« Reply #9 on: March 19, 2016, 01:47:03 AM »
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Re: Dust 514 shuts down in May, Kara on suicide watch
« Reply #10 on: March 19, 2016, 01:53:19 AM »
(If you never understood why anyone played this game, it was roughly the neckbeard equivalent of going to the horse track or OTB on a work day during work hours. I will miss that fix terribly.)

Before you pop-off, you're gonna have to explain this in another way to me. Because I thought Dust was irredeemable trash from the get-go. Merging two genres together and on two different platforms had "disaster" written all over it.

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Re: Dust 514 shuts down in May, Kara on suicide watch
« Reply #11 on: March 19, 2016, 11:52:13 PM »
In Counter-Strike you get in-game money for doing things right during the game that you can spend on items that make you better compared to your opponents, but if you die you don't get those items back. In the abstract this is a skill-based type of gambling, but ultimately the fix you can only get from gambling is tempered in Counter-Strike by the fact that your winnings and losses have no persistence (When you log in to a server you always receive what, $800 to $1,000?) and that there are mechanics that keep you from losing your shirt (namely, you can only die once a round).

DUST 514 took this core emotional experience and added to it a persistent money total that existed outside the game as well as items that actually cost irl money (which provided marginal but not immaterial advantages over the items that cost f2p money). Additionally it used the Battlefield method of scoring deaths instead of the Counter-Strike method so you could (and from my interactions with more degenerate / less financially savvy DUST bunnies, often would) basically play yourself into being a broke-ass Treasure of the Sierra Madre character. Over time they even added more gambling mechanics like the Dota 2 chests that contained items with varying degrees of worth or efficacy instead of hugbox skins of varying degrees of embarrassment. Any regular of the game was a Caldari whether they believed it or not. The premier (only?) podcast for the community regularly discussed things in economic terms, and not the broad, analytical sense you find in articles about EVE written by those who exist without the community, but in the cold, brutal logic of a homo economicus. (No homo.) I know there were other reasons for this, but I don't think it was a coincidence that the game had a strong presence in markets more subject to the callousness of international capital than Western Europe or anglophone North America like Brazil.

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Re: Dust 514 shuts down in May, Kara on suicide watch
« Reply #12 on: March 20, 2016, 12:14:21 AM »
Oh, I got you now. Yeah, that item losing mechanic basically turned me off. You can't ask shooter fans to endlessly grind for items and expect them to accept that the items they unlock aren't permanent. You just can't. :lol Yeah, it seemed like the game wanted to be a "go for the objective as often as you can" but the whole equipment/sortie just worked against that. Throw in that the community can't exist without sugar daddies in EVE doing the work for them in making sure they're geared and can live. die. repeat. and yeah... just a bad idea all around.

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Re: Dust 514 shuts down in May, Kara on suicide watch
« Reply #13 on: May 03, 2016, 09:50:55 PM »
In case you missed it, CCP announced a spiritual sequel to this at EVE's Icelandic substitute for BlizzCon the other day. Unreal Engine 4 and self-contained (i.e. not directly linked to EVE's Tranquility server, though this was not a problem for the reason why people on the internet who never played the game said it was a problem). Hi haters.

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Re: Dust 514 shuts down in May, Kara on suicide watch
« Reply #14 on: May 04, 2016, 08:15:24 PM »
You playing EVE Citadel, Kara? It's Commander Shepherd's favorite mmo.
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Re: Dust 514 shuts down in May, Kara on suicide watch
« Reply #15 on: May 04, 2016, 09:19:35 PM »
I'm afraid that if I re-up my EVE scrip I'll start down a dark path that ends with me playing EVE: Gunjack on public transportation. :'(

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Re: Dust 514 shuts down in May, Kara on suicide watch
« Reply #16 on: May 29, 2016, 04:33:23 PM »
Played my final games. I'm going to miss this dumb thing.



I think this is the first MMO I've played that actually shut down. EVE is still around and every couple of years I stupidly re-up my scrip. Ultima Online is still around. EverQuest is still around. Guild Wars is still around. Hell, even the original PlanetSide is still around. Please keep me in your prayers these next few days.

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Re: Dust 514 shuts down in May, Kara on suicide watch
« Reply #17 on: May 29, 2016, 05:18:52 PM »
I still can't believe you dumped money into this. :doge

Kara

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Re: Dust 514 shuts down in May, Kara on suicide watch
« Reply #18 on: May 29, 2016, 05:25:04 PM »
I bought a ten dollar sexy hologram for my quarters that gives discounts on items you purchased with in game currency (not the F2P money).

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Re: Dust 514 shuts down in May, Kara on suicide watch
« Reply #19 on: May 29, 2016, 07:15:06 PM »
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Re: Dust 514 shuts down in May, Kara on suicide watch
« Reply #20 on: May 29, 2016, 10:10:02 PM »
That hologram is pretty sexy.
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