Author Topic: Tokyo Mirage Sessions - Persona 5 comes early (Read 7588 times)

demi · « **on:** June 24, 2016, 11:04:31 AM »

A good ~~WiiU game~~ JRPG? Reviewers seem to think so.

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #1 on:** June 24, 2016, 01:10:00 PM »

I need to play this.

Kara · « **Reply #2 on:** June 24, 2016, 01:42:47 PM »

Will buy and give away to a Borean in 7 years.

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #3 on:** June 24, 2016, 01:49:10 PM »

Tasty · « **Reply #4 on:** June 24, 2016, 02:06:18 PM »

Had the ending spoiled and Jesus Christ what an acid trip.

tiesto · « **Reply #5 on:** June 24, 2016, 02:52:05 PM »

Gotta pick up my LE... surprised at how high the reviews have been. But console turn based RPG = GIMME!!!

demi · « **Reply #6 on:** June 24, 2016, 07:00:54 PM »

This game is awesome.

It's Persona 5 WiiU

demi · « **Reply #7 on:** June 24, 2016, 07:19:24 PM »

The UI might as well be Persona 4 leftovers.

There's no english VA, but you can mute it as well.

Level ups are like Fire Emblem, complete with RNG

You earn skills from weapons.

There's no "extra turn" for weaknesses, but if any other teammates have the same element, they will do follow up attacks (Sessions).

archie4208 · « **Reply #8 on:** June 24, 2016, 07:40:43 PM »

Are the load times as bad as people have said?

demi · « **Reply #9 on:** June 24, 2016, 07:41:47 PM »

I dont think its been terrible or noticable. Seems fine to me.

toku · « **Reply #10 on:** June 24, 2016, 07:58:12 PM »

whens the pc port coming out

demi · « **Reply #11 on:** June 24, 2016, 09:53:16 PM »

I like the gamepad being used as a chat client. I bet that was a bitch to localize... lol

The characters even send emoji/stickers

qq more · « **Reply #12 on:** June 24, 2016, 10:08:53 PM »

Quote from: demi on June 24, 2016, 09:53:16 PM

I like the gamepad being used as a chat client. I bet that was a bitch to localize... lol

The characters even send emoji/stickers

That's actually kind of awesome.

demi · « **Reply #13 on:** June 24, 2016, 10:11:26 PM »

This game is a tried and true JRPG - no gimmicks I can see. If you're jonesing for something, this is your best bet. I guess you could pick Star Ocean 5 next week as well.

Rahxephon91 · « **Reply #14 on:** June 24, 2016, 10:42:09 PM »

And Grand Kingdom.

There's been Odin Sphere HD, Grand Kingdom, Star Ocean V, and this in the span of a few weeks. Pretty solid time for JRPG fans.

demi · « **Reply #15 on:** June 24, 2016, 11:07:23 PM »

Looked at some Grand Kingdom gameplay... I still dont get how it plays. Is it a JRPG?

cosmicblizzard · « **Reply #16 on:** June 24, 2016, 11:44:23 PM »

It's a really good game

Rahxephon91 · « **Reply #17 on:** June 25, 2016, 12:19:42 AM »

Quote from: demi on June 24, 2016, 11:07:23 PM

Looked at some Grand Kingdom gameplay... I still dont get how it plays. Is it a JRPG?

It's an SRPG.

There are three lanes with your characters situated on one side and the enemies on the other side. A gauge dictates how much you can move up and down and left and right on these lanes. Then a gauge decides how much you can attack. Characters come in classes like mage, archer, medic, knight, and so on. You're building a crew of those classes like in most jrpgs. This one also has some real time elements to it as well unlike Grand Knights Historia.

There's a demo on PSN.

bluemax · « **Reply #18 on:** June 25, 2016, 12:35:17 AM »

I bought this game and know almost nothing about it. Can't be worse than Tales of Zestiria.

bluemax · « **Reply #19 on:** June 25, 2016, 04:55:10 PM »

This game makes me cringe a lot, but the actual combat is decent so far.

demi · « **Reply #20 on:** June 25, 2016, 05:57:48 PM »

About done with Chapter 2, so some more tidbits:

- Doing sidequests unlocks skills and abilities for your characters. It's worth doing. You unlock "ad-lib performances" which are random, but they do devastating damage to all enemies. You also unlock passive skills like "More HP". You unlock these stories by gaining Stage Ranks, which level by doing Sessions or just having that character in battle.

- Characters who don't participate get shit for XP, so you will have to juggle around if you care about leveling evenly. The same applies for weapon XP. It's super easy to level up anyway.

- If you unlock the same skill from a weapon, it makes that skill stronger (+1, +2, etc.) or makes it cost less MP (Dia for example). So it's worth just going from weapon to weapon rather than the immediate strongest weapon. But do make that weapon so you can just equip it in the middle of a dungeon rather than having to teleport back out.

- Enemies can do Sessions as well. Eek!

- Save often, there's no auto-save and if you die, back to the title screen.

- Activating somethng (switch, treasure, etc) causes all enemies to despawn. If a "Savage" encounter is chasing you...

TVC15 · « **Reply #21 on:** June 25, 2016, 06:03:02 PM »

I kinda want to play this

. Fuck Atlus for doing a Nintendo JRPG.

demi · « **Reply #22 on:** June 25, 2016, 06:04:47 PM »

I think its the only JRPG on the system besides Xenoblade.... lol

fistfulofmetal · « **Reply #23 on:** June 25, 2016, 06:06:18 PM »

So how much like Persona is this?

I think I asked the same question when SMT4 came out. I ended up bouncing off that after awhile, didn't like the overworld travel stuff.

demi · « **Reply #24 on:** June 25, 2016, 06:21:08 PM »

It's Persona because:

- The characters are teeny-boppers
- The story revolves around "Mirages" (shadows) stealing "Performa" (lol)
- Your teeny bopper character discovers they can take the form of Fire Emblem characters
- You gain social links by being the best friend ever, which unlocks abilities (Stage Rank)
- You merge "Performa" into new "Carnage Form" (weapons) for your not-persona Fire Emblem character
- The classic SMT/Persona weakness/resist battle system, which just a sprinkling of Fire Emblem (axe weakness, sword weakness, spear weakness along with enemy-type weakness)
- Your characters are part of a secret investigation squad (Fortuna Enterprises) who are totally trying to solve the mystery of ~~Tartarus~~ the Idolaspheres
- The UI is Persona rofl
- Tiki = Igor

Trent Dole · « **Reply #25 on:** June 25, 2016, 06:30:30 PM »

Quote from: toku on June 24, 2016, 07:58:12 PM

whens the pc port coming out

How many Atlus games have you seen on PC? OK now how many Nintendo published games? Yeah.

nachobro · « **Reply #26 on:** June 25, 2016, 07:19:35 PM »

The game is Jpop Persona and it's pretty dang good for it

fistfulofmetal · « **Reply #27 on:** June 25, 2016, 07:35:05 PM »

Quote from: demi on June 25, 2016, 06:21:08 PM

It's Persona because:

- The characters are teeny-boppers
- The story revolves around "Mirages" (shadows) stealing "Performa" (lol)
- Your teeny bopper character discovers they can take the form of Fire Emblem characters
- You gain social links by being the best friend ever, which unlocks abilities (Stage Rank)
- You merge "Performa" into new "Carnage Form" (weapons) for your not-persona Fire Emblem character
- The classic SMT/Persona weakness/resist battle system, which just a sprinkling of Fire Emblem (axe weakness, sword weakness, spear weakness along with enemy-type weakness)
- Your characters are part of a secret investigation squad (Fortuna Enterprises) who are totally trying to solve the mystery of ~~Tartarus~~ the Idolaspheres
- The UI is Persona rofl
- Tiki = Igor

Does it have overworld stuff? Like walking around talking to people?

demi · « **Reply #28 on:** June 25, 2016, 07:47:42 PM »

It has a map you can select areas, and you can walk around them like Persona 4 yes.

fistfulofmetal · « **Reply #29 on:** June 25, 2016, 08:48:44 PM »

Bought.

demi · « **Reply #30 on:** June 25, 2016, 09:10:21 PM »

Just beat the Chapter 2 boss, shit was pretty difficult. Playing on Normal. You can choose Easy / Normal / Hard difficulties, changing them on the fly if you want

bluemax · « **Reply #31 on:** June 26, 2016, 02:30:48 AM »

Yeah I party wiped on a normal battle when I got surprise attacked in chapter 1.

This game is very Persona albeit with far less S-Link stuff and it doesn't fuck around with getting you into dungeons and combat like P3 and P4 did.

Combat heavily rewards you for making use of enemy weaknesses to trigger sessions (combos), as well as for paying attention to the turn order bar like FFX so that you can kill things before they have a chance to attack.

It reminds me a lot of SMT4 on 3DS but with a different coat of paint and some very mild links to Fire Emblem.

demi · « **Reply #32 on:** June 26, 2016, 11:04:45 PM »

Stats dont mean shit, it's a SMT game. Gotta use them weaknesses brah

bluemax · « **Reply #33 on:** June 26, 2016, 11:27:52 PM »

Quote from: 213372bu on June 26, 2016, 10:49:44 PM

When the game launched in Japan, somebody made a thread about level-ups giving you random stats. As in like, you can equally get +2 agility for a level as you can get +3 Strength +4 Agility +2 Magic etc.

Has anything happened that bad/noticeable to any of you?

You can improve your chances of good stat ups by eating and drinking the right stuff so your characters have higher luck, but like Demi said weaknesses and triggering sessions seems to be the real key to winning fights. Then again I'm barely about to start chapter 2.

fistfulofmetal · « **Reply #34 on:** June 27, 2016, 05:14:02 PM »

Got game in hand. Gonna start it up tonight.

fistfulofmetal · « **Reply #35 on:** June 28, 2016, 09:12:36 AM »

Game is Persona as fuck.

I havent yet quite figured out the Session mechanic in terms of strategy and how it integrates into the combo system but I'm early. I only just beat the first boss. My experience with these games helped me realize that weaknesses and buffs are stuff you shouldn't forget.

Also - the music isn't nearly as good as Persona.

Plus, I'm kinda surprised there's no english dubbing. It's not a big deal most of the time but in combat I have no idea what is being said and it doesn't subtitle that stuff.

demi · « **Reply #36 on:** June 28, 2016, 09:21:55 AM »

The battle banter is just small talk, I doubt it's anything worth caring about.

There's not much to really know about the Session mechanic except to always use it, as it helps gain Stage Rank as well as gives you items/money. It gets WAY better down the road via abilities (Itsuki mainly) - at most you'll be doing 3 combo sessions for now.

demi · « **Reply #37 on:** June 28, 2016, 09:27:29 AM »

Here's a post about what they actually say:

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Most of them are stock phrases; everyone gets unique in-battle quotes in certain battles (eg. Itsuki and Tsubasa have unique in-battle quotes in the first battle, which are never used in the rest of the game - "So this is the power of Carnage Form...", everyone has a unique quote their first turn against a particular boss - "We have to save Ayaha!", etc.) There are also "reaction" quotes (eg. the next person taking their turn reacts at the last person going down, etc.), "low health" quotes, "statused" quotes, and so on. There are also quotes for things like "don't start a session attack because my attack will get blocked", or "all set for session attack" and the like.

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There's also special quotes for almost every costume you can make your characters wear. For example Yashiro's Doktor Schraube outfit makes him say "Looks like it's time to start the surgery" and stuff like that. There's a bikini costume for Ellie that makes all her quotes feel more embarrased and her saying "D-don't stare at me so much".

I wonder if that quote is still in for her replacement costume because they didn't even translate the battle dialogue.

Additionally, if you promote some mirages there'll be new quotes too. For example when promoting Ellies archer to an assassin he will say more dark stuff followed by his standard catchphrase about nobility, and Ellie then comments about how this makes no sense. Some of them are pretty fun.

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When you select an attack, you will be able to see a potential session chain. If the last person in the session chain will have their attacks absorbed, reflected, or blocked, they will voice their concern. For example, if you are targeting an enemy that absorbs axes, and Mamori is the last member of your session chain, when you select that enemy, you will hear Mamori (or more likely, Draug) telling you not to attack.

Of course, you are free to ignore that advice; after all, if you kill off that enemy before Mamori attacks, then Mamori's attack will be part of an overkill, and attacks on subsequent target ignore absorb/reflect/block.

Characters will also have "reaction" dialogue - eg. Itsuki's turn after getting hit with an attack will have something along the lines of Chrom saying "are you okay" and Itsuki replying in the affirmative.

Mostly stuff like they would in Persona.

fistfulofmetal · « **Reply #38 on:** June 29, 2016, 12:14:32 PM »

Is it common to be using a lot of items (revival beads, potions, etc)? I finished the second dungeon and found that characters died more than I'm used to.

Or I could just be bad at it. I haven't got it in my head to remember element weaknesses AND weapon weaknesses. But it is really fun to perform a session combo that hits with both weapon and element weakness.

demi · « **Reply #39 on:** June 29, 2016, 12:55:15 PM »

I used a lot of revive items because I kept getting one-shot. I felt the generic healing items didnt do enough healing, and wind up using stuff like Beads instead

bluemax · « **Reply #40 on:** June 30, 2016, 01:12:24 AM »

I think I only had to use recovery items once, its so easy in that second dungeon to just warp back to the exit and then go outside and get fully healed. I kept going back to the Fortuna Office to fuse new weapons and abilities as well.

demi · « **Reply #41 on:** July 02, 2016, 09:25:44 PM »

Finished Chapter 3. I dunno how you're supposed to tackle that boss but I just bumrushed him and took the attacks.

Tsubasa's "Debut Smile" is a godsend. Full heal + Def UP + Dodge/Hit UP for 1 SP? Yes please.

Also spoiler warning: There is a "True Ending" (like Persona!) - you have to complete everyone's sidestory then talk to them in the Epilogue.

You can see this if you go to "Artists" and you'll see 3 stars on each card.

fistfulofmetal · « **Reply #42 on:** July 02, 2016, 11:37:04 PM »

I beat the second full dungeon and got Tsubasa's sister back. Did Touma's side quest and Tiki's sidequest. I'm really hoping that Tiki=Waifu eventually becomes a part of my party with Tiki as her Mirage.

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #43 on:** July 04, 2016, 01:22:57 AM »

Started playing Persona 4.5 HD tonight.

archnemesis · « **Reply #44 on:** July 04, 2016, 04:51:48 AM »

I just completed the first side story. The game is so much better than I expected it to be.

Maybe I'm overleveled, but I've only used an healing item once. The first set of accessories have great armor stats.

demi · « **Reply #45 on:** July 04, 2016, 10:00:19 AM »

The game in general is pretty simple - the only speedbumps will be the bosses.

archnemesis · « **Reply #46 on:** July 04, 2016, 11:47:32 AM »

Savage enemies can be pretty tough too.

demi · « **Reply #47 on:** July 04, 2016, 12:32:13 PM »

There's no point to fight Savage encounters so you're good

fistfulofmetal · « **Reply #48 on:** July 04, 2016, 09:11:13 PM »

Got Ellie and now all my sessions are outta whack.

demi · « **Reply #49 on:** July 04, 2016, 09:47:48 PM »

It will get better...

Getting a 20 combo session

fistfulofmetal · « **Reply #50 on:** July 05, 2016, 09:33:00 AM »

I played a bit of Persona 4 again and I'm really happy this game doesn't have the time restrictions. Being able to do side requests during an intermission without worry is relaxing.

I wonder if Persona 5 will have the time restrictions again. Has anything been said about that?

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #51 on:** July 05, 2016, 10:35:46 AM »

I beat Chapter 1 last night. Game is really good.

demi · « **Reply #52 on:** July 05, 2016, 06:31:11 PM »

I played the game all weekend, but I just finished it.

bluemax · « **Reply #53 on:** July 07, 2016, 12:56:53 AM »

Nice I only managed to finish chapter 2 this weekend. Got wrecked on my first attempt at the boss because he kept sessioning Kiria, so I swapped her out and it went a lot better.

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Author Topic: Tokyo Mirage Sessions - Persona 5 comes early (Read 7588 times)