Author Topic: EVO 2016 (Read 30439 times)

kick51 · « **Reply #180 on:** July 18, 2016, 12:16:30 AM »

Fuudo the only reason im still watching tbh

Beezy · « **Reply #181 on:** July 18, 2016, 12:19:55 AM »

Love seeing beastly Mika players.

eleuin · « **Reply #182 on:** July 18, 2016, 12:20:51 AM »

no buttslap possible on national television

nudemacusers · « **Reply #183 on:** July 18, 2016, 12:21:26 AM »

Quote from: eleuin on July 18, 2016, 12:01:11 AM

Quote from: nudemacusers on July 17, 2016, 10:47:58 PM
if he loses i blame the pink backpack

https://twitter.com/seraphina_152/status/754870333199355904 :'(

THANKS NOW I FEEL LIKE SHIT

mormapope · « **Reply #184 on:** July 18, 2016, 12:23:40 AM »

nudemacusers · « **Reply #185 on:** July 18, 2016, 12:27:02 AM »

but what if it was the backpack tho 🤔

Beezy · « **Reply #186 on:** July 18, 2016, 12:29:15 AM »

Mika

Infiltration is still awesome though.

Your Stalker · « **Reply #187 on:** July 18, 2016, 12:30:03 AM »

MIKA

thisismyusername · « **Reply #188 on:** July 18, 2016, 12:30:41 AM »

Man, fuck R. Mika's V-trigger.

That stupid-ass tag-team continues to catch people off guard.

eleuin · « **Reply #189 on:** July 18, 2016, 12:32:05 AM »

GOAT

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Your Stalker · « **Reply #190 on:** July 18, 2016, 12:34:31 AM »

COMMENTARY INTENSIFIES

nudemacusers · « **Reply #191 on:** July 18, 2016, 12:34:58 AM »

underbutt >>>> underboob

mormapope · « **Reply #192 on:** July 18, 2016, 12:35:05 AM »

SFV's mixup game is fucked. Cross ups seem like they whiff most of the time, pokes and links have to be at point blank range. But there's teleports MvC3 style and a tag team character that flys onto screen instantly on the opposite side.

nudemacusers · « **Reply #193 on:** July 18, 2016, 12:36:32 AM »

KOREA GO HOME

Tasty · « **Reply #194 on:** July 18, 2016, 12:56:45 AM »

Pretty exciting but I wish I knew the player storylines. Will have to do some research before next Evo.

Your Stalker · « **Reply #195 on:** July 18, 2016, 12:57:09 AM »

OH BABY A TRIPLE

eleuin · « **Reply #196 on:** July 18, 2016, 12:59:19 AM »

downloaded

nerf this character

mormapope · « **Reply #197 on:** July 18, 2016, 12:59:46 AM »

Your Stalker · « **Reply #198 on:** July 18, 2016, 01:05:29 AM »

game over man, game over

eleuin · « **Reply #199 on:** July 18, 2016, 01:06:49 AM »

ending with a wet fart

Beezy · « **Reply #200 on:** July 18, 2016, 01:11:41 AM »

:'( :'( :'(

mormapope · « **Reply #201 on:** July 18, 2016, 01:11:51 AM »

EDIT: Infiltration earned this shit and has been a crowd favorite for years. Fuck Mika and her broken ass normals.

thisismyusername · « **Reply #202 on:** July 18, 2016, 01:11:57 AM »

Quote from: nudemacusers on July 18, 2016, 12:36:32 AM

KOREA GO HOME

eleuin · « **Reply #203 on:** July 18, 2016, 01:13:07 AM »

cheering for worst korea

mormapope · « **Reply #204 on:** July 18, 2016, 01:15:32 AM »

Infiltration is a goofy and lovable dude, he loves the concept of 69, and is a assman.

Your Stalker · « **Reply #205 on:** July 18, 2016, 01:15:37 AM »

translator bodied

mormapope · « **Reply #206 on:** July 18, 2016, 01:18:23 AM »

"Download complete"

thisismyusername · « **Reply #207 on:** July 18, 2016, 01:23:35 AM »

Quote from: mormapope on July 18, 2016, 01:15:32 AM

Infiltration is a goofy and lovable dude, he loves the concept of 69, and is a assman.

Wut?

But yeah, outside of the Asian SF players: Infiltration and Gamerbee are both likable. Though wasn't Infiltration supported by Razor last year? I still think Gamerbee was robbed last year.

thisismyusername · « **Reply #208 on:** July 18, 2016, 01:29:46 AM »

Quote from: mormapope on July 18, 2016, 01:11:51 AM

EDIT: Infiltration earned this shit and has been a crowd favorite for years. Fuck Mika and her broken ass normals.

For real, I hope Ono took notes.

Kara · « **Reply #209 on:** July 18, 2016, 01:30:29 AM »

Is Mika 3S Chun-Li's standing FP tier?

mormapope · « **Reply #210 on:** July 18, 2016, 01:35:35 AM »

https://twitter.com/INFILTRATION85/status/653759455738204160

thisismyusername · « **Reply #211 on:** July 18, 2016, 01:40:37 AM »

Quote from: mormapope on July 18, 2016, 01:35:35 AM

https://twitter.com/INFILTRATION85/status/653759455738204160

"Do you eat ass?"
"...Yes, sometimes."

https://twitter.com/Eternal0Star/status/653788128910557184

:vallelaugh

Tasty · « **Reply #212 on:** July 18, 2016, 03:28:24 AM »

I think it's safe to say this was a great Evo for everyone. Can't wait for next year already.

Will be interesting to see how Evo Japan pans out, I think they already tried something like that before and it kinda fizzled.

bork · « **Reply #213 on:** July 18, 2016, 05:30:19 AM »

Had to go to bed and missed a good bit. Infiltration won?

And come on, fgc- http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=1248168

Your Stalker · « **Reply #214 on:** July 18, 2016, 05:44:39 AM »

I don't see what Smash has to do with the FGC. MingLee

Take My Breh Away · « **Reply #215 on:** July 18, 2016, 07:33:47 AM »

Quote from: Tasty Meat on July 18, 2016, 03:28:24 AM

I think it's safe to say this was a great Evo for everyone. Can't wait for next year already.

Will be interesting to see how Evo Japan pans out, I think they already tried something like that before and it kinda fizzled.

Eh. The standard of play was great and as good as 2016 but the organization was awful. Too many commercial breaks and awful staging. Pokken overran massively and was absolutely dire watching. Viewer count completely dived year over year as well because watching it on stream was terrible. Using the arena for finals was a mistake as well because the amount of empty seats made everything look super amateur hour. I think Melee ended up being the most watched game as well and SF V only pulled in 180K. I know it was on ESPN as well, but that's way below Ultra last year (Which was about 250K)

I don't think it's the death of the FGC but once the high of the event passes there's going to be a ton of questions asked why the hell was there such a massive drop in viewers.

thisismyusername · « **Reply #216 on:** July 18, 2016, 07:39:35 AM »

Quote from: Take My Breh Away on July 18, 2016, 07:33:47 AM

I don't think it's the death of the FGC but once the high of the event passes there's going to be a ton of questions asked why the hell was there such a massive drop in viewers.

I'd have to see the live airing stats, but I don't think ESPN gives those out, but:

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I know it was on ESPN as well, but that's way below Ultra last year (Which was about 250K)

You answered yourself. I didn't watch on Twitch this year and waited for the top 8 because that's where most of the action was. I haven't seen Marvel vs Capcom 3 this year either because of that. Much better quality (despite ESPN's cut aways) for me than trying to watch it on stream. The other factor is SF5's terrible launch. Casuals can't care if the game doesn't have things that'll let them want to play it after seeing hype matches by themselves because they know they'll be stomped dry online.

But to be fair, CS:GO dropped players over last years showing in Colonge. So it isn't just a Evo problem.

Quote from: bork pls on July 18, 2016, 05:30:19 AM

And come on, fgc- http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=1248168

Needs to be banned like Noel Brown and done yesterday.

bork · « **Reply #217 on:** July 18, 2016, 07:58:01 AM »

Quote from: Take My Breh Away on July 18, 2016, 07:33:47 AM

Eh. The standard of play was great and as good as 2016 but the organization was awful. Too many commercial breaks and awful staging.

Way too many commercials this time around.

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Pokken overran massively and was absolutely dire watching.

I know they want the highest viewer counts, but they really need to stick to the schedule and have more than one stage/use another stream to start coverage of the next tourney, let the other tourney finish up, and then switch streams or something. It would keep things running smoother. I guess one problem with this is that if someone were playing in both tournaments, they'd be fucked, though.

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Using the arena for finals was a mistake as well because the amount of empty seats made everything look super amateur hour. I think Melee ended up being the most watched game as well and SF V only pulled in 180K. I know it was on ESPN as well, but that's way below Ultra last year (Which was about 250K)

I don't think it's the death of the FGC but once the high of the event passes there's going to be a ton of questions asked why the hell was there such a massive drop in viewers.

The stream sound quality was absolute ass this year and a large number of people dropped SRK to go to the Topanga stream instead. That could have affected the viewer count by the end. And then there's ESPN2, as mentioned, which also can account for a drop in stream viewers.

nachobro · « **Reply #218 on:** July 18, 2016, 08:03:07 AM »

Not a bad event this year. It was more of a pain to get around but otherwise it was about the same as other years. There was a legit noticeable smell this year, it was gross. But in the end I got to play Tekken 7 for like am hour and got a decent win streak (19) on a TTT cab so it all ended well. I say this every year but I think this'll be my last EVO. The transition of the event from tournament to video game convention is almost complete so it might be time to check out other events, like CEO

thisismyusername · « **Reply #219 on:** July 18, 2016, 08:18:58 AM »

Quote from: mormapope on July 18, 2016, 01:15:32 AM

Infiltration is a goofy and lovable dude, he loves the concept of 69, and is a assman.

https://twitter.com/INFILTRATION85/status/748664377499279360

Oh god.

Quote from: bork pls on July 18, 2016, 07:58:01 AM

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Pokken overran massively and was absolutely dire watching.

I know they want the highest viewer counts, but they really need to stick to the schedule and have more than one stage/use another stream to start coverage of the next tourney, let the other tourney finish up, and then switch streams or something. It would keep things running smoother. I guess one problem with this is that if someone were playing in both tournaments, they'd be fucked, though

Like I said in the GAF thread: They should make it 4-5 days (which kills Nacho's motivation to go) as a convention since the size of attendees and tournaments is increasing PLUS would give each niche (Capcom, Namco, Animu, Smash) a separate and full day for people to watch and not worry about times. People playing SF and Marvel would only have to worry about over-time on both those. But if someone was playing Street Fighter and Soul Calibur, they wouldn't have to worry about the time-overs if they got knocked out early and would have time to get to bed and be fresh for the next day/other game.

And yeah, I'm not sure I'm digging Evo's growth going from small community-ran tournaments into a big event. Just look at the Infiltration+Laugh video Morma posted about Evo 2013 and compare it to this year. Just 3 years and this is getting big bugets/productions. It's crazy.

bork · « **Reply #220 on:** July 18, 2016, 09:00:15 AM »

I need to check this out since I had to go to bed after the first few matches. That's another thing about having more days and/or streams-- they could start these finals earlier in the day.

Take My Breh Away · « **Reply #221 on:** July 18, 2016, 09:33:43 AM »

Quote from: bork pls on July 18, 2016, 07:58:01 AM

Quote from: Take My Breh Away on July 18, 2016, 07:33:47 AM
Eh. The standard of play was great and as good as 2016 but the organization was awful. Too many commercial breaks and awful staging.

Way too many commercials this time around.

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Pokken overran massively and was absolutely dire watching.

I know they want the highest viewer counts, but they really need to stick to the schedule and have more than one stage/use another stream to start coverage of the next tourney, let the other tourney finish up, and then switch streams or something. It would keep things running smoother. I guess one problem with this is that if someone were playing in both tournaments, they'd be fucked, though.

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Using the arena for finals was a mistake as well because the amount of empty seats made everything look super amateur hour. I think Melee ended up being the most watched game as well and SF V only pulled in 180K. I know it was on ESPN as well, but that's way below Ultra last year (Which was about 250K)

I don't think it's the death of the FGC but once the high of the event passes there's going to be a ton of questions asked why the hell was there such a massive drop in viewers.

The stream sound quality was absolute ass this year and a large number of people dropped SRK to go to the Topanga stream instead. That could have affected the viewer count by the end. And then there's ESPN2, as mentioned, which also can account for a drop in stream viewers.

Topanga stream was only about a 3-4K add for MK X and Marvel. The viewer drop was consistent across every game except Guilty Gear and Melee and across Saturday and Sunday. Smash 4 was 99K last year and peaked at 45K this year. Marvel barely broke 100K, Tekken 7 was as low as 13K at points (And that's going to be a Sunday game next year). I'm not sure if it's evo being done as an event or the LoL major interfered but after last years high views. It's worrying that even Saturdays that were pulling in 100K are dropping so hard.

Tasty · « **Reply #222 on:** July 18, 2016, 09:37:45 AM »

Quote from: thisismyusername on July 18, 2016, 07:39:35 AM

Needs to be banned like Noel Brown and done yesterday.

His sponsorship was dropped before that thread was made and bans are likely coming. He's also said he's not coming back to the US ever again.

Quote from: thisismyusername on July 18, 2016, 08:18:58 AM

Like I said in the GAF thread: They should make it 4-5 days (which kills Nacho's motivation to go) as a convention since the size of attendees and tournaments is increasing PLUS would give each niche (Capcom, Namco, Animu, Smash) a separate and full day for people to watch and not worry about times. People playing SF and Marvel would only have to worry about over-time on both those. But if someone was playing Street Fighter and Soul Calibur, they wouldn't have to worry about the time-overs if they got knocked out early and would have time to get to bed and be fresh for the next day/other game.

And yeah, I'm not sure I'm digging Evo's growth going from small community-ran tournaments into a big event. Just look at the Infiltration+Laugh video Morma posted about Evo 2013 and compare it to this year. Just 3 years and this is getting big bugets/productions. It's crazy.

I haven't followed Evo from the start but 2013 is when I started watching and it was already cemented in my head as the superbowl of eSports in many respects.

I'd love to see another day added, Thursday-Sunday would give me an extra day of background info to get hype over at work, but I'm not sure of the logistics for most of these players. Then again I guess most of them are college-age and have summer off anyways... but they also might have work. Dunno.

Quote from: Take My Breh Away on July 18, 2016, 09:33:43 AM

Topanga stream was only about a 3-4K add for MK X and Marvel. The viewer drop was consistent across every game except Guilty Gear and Melee and across Saturday and Sunday. Smash 4 was 99K last year and peaked at 45K this year. Marvel barely broke 100K, Tekken 7 was as low as 13K at points (And that's going to be a Sunday game next year). I'm not sure if it's evo being done as an event or the LoL major interfered but after last years high views. It's worrying that even Saturdays that were pulling in 100K are dropping so hard.

That's... really odd. Wonder what explains the drops.

Tasty · « **Reply #223 on:** July 18, 2016, 09:42:39 AM »

I'm not sure how much Nintendo had to do with Pokken's ultimate inclusion, but this was basically its first major so it's not surprising to me they didn't have a good idea of how much time it would need. I definitely won't miss it next year (unless a good scene develops, but I'm not holding my breath.)

Tasty · « **Reply #224 on:** July 18, 2016, 09:49:38 AM »

https://www.reddit.com/r/Kappa/comments/4tdr30/evo_2016_finals_twitchtv_peak_viewer_counts_stats/

Wait this says Smash 4 peaked at 71K, not 45 (still a drop from 99K.)

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Also Melee had more viewers than SFV

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I know the time slot and ESPN2 had a huge effect on that, but still.

Feels good after thisismyusername's post last year.

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On Sunday every game fell short of the peak viewer count from last year when compared to the game in its time slot, with the exception of Melee, which had the most viewers on the main channel during Evo with nearly 220K.

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Take My Breh Away · « **Reply #225 on:** July 18, 2016, 11:04:30 AM »

Quote from: Tasty Meat on July 18, 2016, 09:49:38 AM

https://www.reddit.com/r/Kappa/comments/4tdr30/evo_2016_finals_twitchtv_peak_viewer_counts_stats/

Wait this says Smash 4 peaked at 71K, not 45 (still a drop from 99K.)

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Also Melee had more viewers than SFV

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I know the time slot had a huge effect on that, but still. Feels good after thisismyusername's post last year.
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Read the wrong chart on Smash 4. 71K in the end including restreams and that's still a drop considering the Saturday finals last year were well above that along with Sunday.

People are still pissed, so bravo Mc Rib.

Tasty · « **Reply #226 on:** July 18, 2016, 11:09:35 AM »

What's this McRib meme

demi · « **Reply #227 on:** July 18, 2016, 11:39:09 AM »

Fatboy loves McRibs I guess, in-joke

bork · « **Reply #228 on:** July 18, 2016, 11:44:30 AM »

Were all the side tournaments streamed? I was surprised to see just about everything recent had a tourney...even stuff like Kouhime Enbu.

Quote from: Tasty Meat on July 18, 2016, 09:37:45 AM

I'd love to see another day added, Thursday-Sunday would give me an extra day of background info to get hype over at work, but I'm not sure of the logistics for most of these players. Then again I guess most of them are college-age and have summer off anyways... but they also might have work. Dunno.

AFAIK there's already a number of players there by Thursday and some "salty suite" style streams go on from hotel rooms. I don't think it would be too much of a stretch to start on a Thursday for most of the people attending. They should think about polling everyone on it.

Tasty · « **Reply #229 on:** July 18, 2016, 11:49:23 AM »

Yeah a poll would be good. And from my Bore-con research flying in on Wed/Thursday is WAY cheaper than Friday, same for hotels, so it might not be too bad cost-wise.

bork · « **Reply #230 on:** July 18, 2016, 11:55:06 AM »

Also, I know this isn't going to be everyone, but a number of international players come over here as much as a week to two weeks early to get adjusted to the time zone and start practicing.

archie4208 · « **Reply #231 on:** July 18, 2016, 12:02:32 PM »

Every competitive game's viewership has declined this year.

I think people are getting bored of the current crop of titles, and Overwatch wasn't a breakout esport, so things are stagnating.

Tasty · « **Reply #232 on:** July 18, 2016, 12:06:28 PM »

Quote from: archie4208 on July 18, 2016, 12:02:32 PM

Every competitive game's viewership has declined this year.

Not every game.

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On Sunday every game fell short of the peak viewer count from last year when compared to the game in its time slot, with the exception of Melee, which had the most viewers on the main channel during Evo with nearly 220K.

archie4208 · « **Reply #233 on:** July 18, 2016, 12:08:15 PM »

Fair enough. But the big boy games: LoL, CSGO and Dota, have declined.

bork · « **Reply #234 on:** July 18, 2016, 12:08:47 PM »

Put Street Fighter V in Melee's earlier time slot and let's see what kind of viewers it gets in comparison.

Tasty · « **Reply #235 on:** July 18, 2016, 12:09:15 PM »

Quote from: archie4208 on July 18, 2016, 12:08:15 PM

Fair enough. But the big boy games: LoL, CSGO and Dota, have declined.

All those games are old though, so I think you're right. I also think it's too early to call it for Overwatch. I can see it steadily increasing until an expansion or something, and then becoming a big mainstay for some years.

Quote from: bork pls on July 18, 2016, 12:08:47 PM

Put Street Fighter V in Melee's earlier time slot and let's see what kind of viewers it gets in comparison.

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And I mentioned that in my original post at the top of the page:

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I know the time slot and ESPN2 had a huge effect on that, but still. Feels good after thisismyusername's post last year.

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kick51 · « **Reply #236 on:** July 18, 2016, 12:21:02 PM »

Marvel 4 wouldn't have this problem.

reminder that Capcom purposely made no effort to fix up Marvel 3 in hopes that it would die* and that it still destroyed SFIV for years all the way up until Ultra came out.

*source: my headcanon

Tasty · « **Reply #237 on:** July 18, 2016, 12:24:59 PM »

Goddamnit mango

That first reply tho

mormapope · « **Reply #238 on:** July 18, 2016, 12:38:32 PM »

Quote from: kick51 on July 18, 2016, 12:21:02 PM

Marvel 4 wouldn't have this problem.

reminder that Capcom purposely made no effort to fix up Marvel 3 in hopes that it would die* and that it still destroyed SFIV for years all the way up until Ultra came out.

*source: my headcanon

MvC3 is a dumpster fire compared to SFIV, gameplay and design wise. The one terrible thing they share is the comeback mechanic used in each game.

bork · « **Reply #239 on:** July 18, 2016, 12:49:38 PM »

Marvel, as always, is broken as fuck, but damn if it isn't fun to watch those crazy clutch comebacks.

Quote from: Tasty Meat on July 18, 2016, 12:09:15 PM

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Put Street Fighter V in Melee's earlier time slot and let's see what kind of viewers it gets in comparison.

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And I mentioned that in my original post at the top of the page:

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I know the time slot and ESPN2 had a huge effect on that, but still. Feels good after thisismyusername's post last year.
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No salt, bruh. It's like you just said- the time slot and ESPN had a big effect on this. We don't know what the viewership was on TV and it could have easily surpassed anything else that was streamed.

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Author Topic: EVO 2016 (Read 30439 times)