Has 4chan (or /b specifically) always been a racist, neo-nazi dwelling?

[TakingBackSunday]

I bounced over to /b to see if there was anything ridiculous being said regarding tonight's speeches pertaining to the DNC, and christ.  I know I shouldn't be shocked, but I feel like for a long time /b was simply a portal for people to just troll and say stupid shit sarcastically with zero repercussions.

But the more I poke around that site, the more I've visited it over the years, it seems less of a troll site and more of a legitimate fringe-right, racist venue for people advocating explicit violence towards anyone who displays empathy, open-mindedness, or maturity.

It's astonishing honestly, and I really wonder how a site like that is still fucking legal.

[Great Rumbler]

Yes.

[TakingBackSunday]

ah cool ty

[Joe Molotov]

Santa Claus ain't legal and he's still around.

[recursivelyenumerable]

it gradually morphed from regular shitposting to shock-ironic racist/fascist shitposting to mock-ironic racist/fascist shitposting to just plain racist/fascist shitposting.

let this stand as a lesson: shitposting always leads to fascism.

[demi]

Has ur sister always been a hot thicc mami?

[curly]

it gradually morphed from regular shitposting to shock-ironic racist/fascist shitposting to mock-ironic racist/fascist shitposting to just plain racist/fascist shitposting.

let this be a lesson: shitposting always leads to fascism.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2QrWzsfghA

Exclusive video of future Trump voters

[Madrun Badrun]

it gradually morphed from regular shitposting to shock-ironic racist/fascist shitposting to mock-ironic racist/fascist shitposting to just plain racist/fascist shitposting.

let this stand as a lesson: shitposting always leads to fascism.

What's the bores version of the Reichstag and when are you gonna burn it down?

[Momo]

it gradually morphed from regular shitposting to shock-ironic racist/fascist shitposting to mock-ironic racist/fascist shitposting to just plain racist/fascist shitposting.

let this stand as a lesson: shitposting always leads to fascism.

I think it's still at shock-ironic racist/fascist shitposting. We just see it differently now because we grew up. It's just a new wave of 13 year olds trying to outdo each other, when they get to be our age they will  have the same conversation about the new slew of 13 year olds.

[TakingBackSunday]

it gradually morphed from regular shitposting to shock-ironic racist/fascist shitposting to mock-ironic racist/fascist shitposting to just plain racist/fascist shitposting.

let this stand as a lesson: shitposting always leads to fascism.

I think it's still at shock-ironic racist/fascist shitposting. We just see it differently now because we grew up. It's just a new wave of 13 year olds trying to outdo each other, when they get to be our age they will  have the same conversation about the new slew of 13 year olds.

But really though? Considering how many violent crimes have been posted originally/planned on 4chan, I don't think its ironic anymore.

[recursivelyenumerable]

it gradually morphed from regular shitposting to shock-ironic racist/fascist shitposting to mock-ironic racist/fascist shitposting to just plain racist/fascist shitposting.

let this stand as a lesson: shitposting always leads to fascism.

What's the bores version of the Reichstag and when are you gonna burn it down?

Zombie Ronald Reagan called my threads a shining city on a hill.

[El Babua]

Used to be a bunch of cunts being cunts, now they attracted the actual Stormfront crowd thru /pol/ and all the boards have gotten infected since.

[Momo]

it gradually morphed from regular shitposting to shock-ironic racist/fascist shitposting to mock-ironic racist/fascist shitposting to just plain racist/fascist shitposting.

let this stand as a lesson: shitposting always leads to fascism.

I think it's still at shock-ironic racist/fascist shitposting. We just see it differently now because we grew up. It's just a new wave of 13 year olds trying to outdo each other, when they get to be our age they will  have the same conversation about the new slew of 13 year olds.

But really though? Considering how many violent crimes have been posted originally/planned on 4chan, I don't think its ironic anymore.

Really. It's the same it always was, there are just more people now than back then. I do feel there are a percentage of people who arent in on the  joke and are serious about their shit, but that comes as new actual racist/facist people come in with no feel for what the place is. There's been violent crimes planned on facebook, whatsapp, reddit, bodybuilding.com I bet you even churchforum.com or whatever, but that doesnt mean the general community is complicit and in on it, in the case of 4chan though, they will go and use these events to further be shock-ironic later.

[Phoenix Dark]

Used to be a bunch of cunts being cunts, now they attracted the actual Stormfront crowd thru /pol/ and all the boards have gotten infected since.

Another community ruined by immigration

[thisismyusername]

Yes.

No, not really. I mean... yeah, /n/ (News, now /news/) had a neo-Nazi problem to the point that m00t basically killed the board dead (and brought it back due to outcry) about 2-3 times over the course of his tenure at 4chan. But the rest of the boards? They weren't really invested with those people. Compare /b/ in 2005 which was shock images and "cockmongler" and the like to /b/ now and it's a night and day difference in your blanket "yes."

4chan has had /news/ and /pol/ (I *think* it was /pol/) alt-right tards start to invade some other boards (mostly /b/, though /v/ has had a few politics threads recently despite them being offtopic! *sigh* 4chan moderators) to where it feels like there's more racists there than there should be. But most folks that use "distinguished black fellow" use it in the same way as "taco" there: seasoning their posts.

it gradually morphed from regular shitposting to shock-ironic racist/fascist shitposting to mock-ironic racist/fascist shitposting to just plain racist/fascist shitposting.

let this stand as a lesson: shitposting always leads to fascism.

I think it's still at shock-ironic racist/fascist shitposting. We just see it differently now because we grew up. It's just a new wave of 13 year olds trying to outdo each other, when they get to be our age they will  have the same conversation about the new slew of 13 year olds.

But really though? Considering how many violent crimes have been posted originally/planned on 4chan, I don't think its ironic anymore.

And that same site brought "Anonymous" to the forefront where (wither you believe it or not) they have made some impact in national news. So it's not like every 4chan user is as alt-right as you're thinking they are.

it gradually morphed from regular shitposting to shock-ironic racist/fascist shitposting to mock-ironic racist/fascist shitposting to just plain racist/fascist shitposting.

let this stand as a lesson: shitposting always leads to fascism.

I think it's still at shock-ironic racist/fascist shitposting. We just see it differently now because we grew up. It's just a new wave of 13 year olds trying to outdo each other, when they get to be our age they will  have the same conversation about the new slew of 13 year olds.

But really though? Considering how many violent crimes have been posted originally/planned on 4chan, I don't think its ironic anymore.

Really. It's the same it always was, there are just more people now than back then. I do feel there are a percentage of people who arent in on the  joke and are serious about their shit, but that comes as new actual racist/facist people come in with no feel for what the place is. There's been violent crimes planned on facebook, whatsapp, reddit, bodybuilding.com I bet you even churchforum.com or whatever, but that doesnt mean the general community is complicit and in on it, in the case of 4chan though, they will go and use these events to further be shock-ironic later.

Also don't forget that reddit had childporn, rape, gore, and hate (racial, fat-people, sexuality, etc.) subreddits before they started to crack down on it. In fact, the admins there didn't even care until Anderson Cooper brought the jailbait pic stuff into the spotlight. Most reddit users aren't alt-right (I know, I know. Seems like a lie given the main-stream subs tone, but go with me here), so it's weird to lump 4chan users as all alt-right. But 4chan has been around and created memes and "internet culture" in that weird web 1.0->2.0 phase to where it's a boogeyman for "non-4chan/reddit/et. al." "normies."

[I'm a Puppy!]

How is this even a question? Of course it is. My god man.

[Vizzys]

r9k is where supreme gentlemen hang out

[benjipwns]

I thought this was the whole point of a completely anonymous board that regularly cleaned itself out. (IIRC, moves to archive, then deletes so long after the last post.)

For as long as I've known of 4chan/2channel it's been known for sketchy stuff and child porn and terrorism and everything else both true and false.

Regarding crime. This is just grabbed off wikipedia:

On October 18, 2006, the Department of Homeland Security warned National Football League officials in Miami, New York City, Atlanta, Seattle, Houston, Oakland, and Cleveland about a possible threat involving the simultaneous use of dirty bombs at stadiums.[132] The threat claimed that the attack would be carried out on October 22, the final day of the Muslim holy month of Ramadan.[133] Both the FBI and the Department of Homeland Security expressed doubt concerning the credibility of the threats, but warned the relevant organizations as a precaution. The games proceeded as planned but under a higher level of security awareness.[134] The threats came to light in the national media after Jake Brahm admitted to having posted the threats on 4chan and repeating them on other websites approximately 40 times.[133]

Hello, /b/. On September 11, 2007, at 9:11 am Central time, two pipe bombs will be remote-detonated at Pflugerville High School. Promptly after the blast, I, along with two ther Anonymous, will charge the building, armed with a Bushmaster AR-15, IMI Galil AR, a vintage, government-issue M1 .30 Carbine, and a Benelli M4 semi auto shotgun.

—The Pflugerville threat[135]
Brahm did not expect the message to be taken seriously since he "would never take anything posted on 4chan as fact";[136] an FBI official was quoted as saying the "credibility of [the threat] was beyond ridiculous".[13] As a parody of the incident, 4chan temporarily added "Don't mess with football" as an additional rule for /b/.[13] On October 20, 2006, Brahm turned himself in to federal authorities, and was charged with fabricating a fake terrorist threat and taken into custody.[137] On February 28, 2008, he pleaded guilty to the federal charges. On June 5, 2008, he was sentenced to six months in prison, six months' house arrest, and ordered to pay $26,750 in restitution.[138]

Around midnight on September 11, 2007, a student posted photographs of mock pipe bombs and another photograph of him holding them while saying he would blow up his high school—Pflugerville High School in Pflugerville, Texas—at 9:11 am on September 11.[135] Users of 4chan helped to track him down by finding the perpetrator's father's name in the Exif data of a photograph he took, and contacted the police.[139] He was arrested before school began that day.[140][141][142][143] The incident turned out to be a hoax; the "weapons" were toys and there were no actual bombs.[144]

Jarrad Willis, a 20-year-old from Melbourne, Australia was arrested on December 8, 2007, after apparently posting on 4chan that he was "going to shoot and kill as many people as I can until which time I am incapacitated or killed by the police".[145] The post, accompanied by an image of another man holding a shotgun, threatened a shopping mall near Beverly Hills.[146] While the investigation was still open, Willis was charged with criminal defamation for a separate incident[147] but died before the case was heard.[148]

On February 4, 2009, a posting on the 4chan /b/ board[149] said there would be a school shooting at St Eskils Gymnasium in Eskilstuna, Sweden, leading 1250 students and 50 teachers to be evacuated.[150] A 21-year-old man was arrested after 4chan provided the police with the IP address of the poster. Police said that the suspect called it off as a joke, and they released him after they found no indication that the threat was serious.[151][152]

On November 29, 2010, Ali Saad, a 19-year-old, was arrested and had his home raided by the FBI for posting child pornography and death threats on 4chan. Ali had first visited 4chan "a week before [the FBI raid] happened". He admitted to downloading about 25 child pornography images from 4chan.[155]

In January 2011, Matthew Riskin Bean, a 20-year-old man from New Jersey was sentenced to 45 days in prison for cyberbullying on 4chan.[156]

Collin Campbell, a U.S. Navy Machinist's Mate, was arrested in February 2011 after a fellow seaman found child pornography on his iPhone that he downloaded entirely from 4chan.[157][158][159][160]

[benjipwns]

[Atramental]

I discovered 4chan back in '05 and I remember seeing "NÏGGER" spammed a bajillion times. 

[Momo]

I have(had) an account here - http://www.shadowsofnamek.com/forum/index.php these people are much worse than 4ch and reddit combined, I havent logged in since 2005 though.

[Dennis]

With something like /pol/ I really can't tell if most of the people there are just trolling and having a laugh. Or if they are serious.

[Atramental]

Like with anything on the Internet, it's most likely a mix of both.

spoiler (click to show/hide)

—Nudemacusers

[close]

[D3RANG3D]

It's mostly shitposting meant to offend, when people from actual white nationalist sites like stormfront tried to be like you guys (/b/) are just like us /b/ was like fuck off.

[kick51]

people have always said lots of slurs and there was a lot of racist shit, but that was once just part of the overall unpredictable and often hilarious shit posted there.  Pre-icanhazcheezburger was kind of a fun time to be on there, though dumb shit still happened (occasional CP or gore.)  After that, the site attracted way more average teen douches and became more self-aware. 

now it's more of a caricature of itself, meme culture isn't new to me anymore, and there's more an agenda for its existence, so it feels a lot lamer.

[Positive Touch]

"i used to be ok with all the hate posting, but now they've gone too far!"

yeah sorry guys it was always a hate filed shithole. even back in the early 2000s it was impossible to browse with running in to a ton violently racist posts and images, and there've always been group-organized racist attacks, usually against black people. sorry guys your site sucks

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

It's always been terrible.  It also had a big child porn problem, not sure if it still does or not.

[qq more]

It's always been terrible.  It also had a big child porn problem, not sure if it still does or not.

8chan has/had those since Google blocked their site from the search for that reason. One guy I knew who defends these sites honestly believes TEH SJWS PLANTED IT!!!!  .

[D3RANG3D]

I'll take 4chan over the neogaf hugbox anyday.

[Atramental]

/v/ is vastly surprior to GAF because they actually have discussions about games. 

[Rufus]

They have the same problem of any gigantic message board. Finding anything worth reading takes simply too much time.

[seagrams hotsauce]

And that same site brought "Anonymous" to the forefront where (wither you believe it or not) they have made some impact in national news. So it's not like every 4chan user is as alt-right as you're thinking they are.

this is the dumbest shit i've ever read

[Phoenix Dark]

Nerdy white internet shit 

if you're gonna be problematic at least have some swag and be entertaining. The Coli

[Mupepe]

I'm not sure if 4chan has always been so bad but I have to believe that they disapprove of Ashley Graham because of her SO. That alone makes me feel like it's not somewhere I want to spend my time even in the digital realm. Put it this way, I'd rather navigate a sub page of yahoo.com before going to 4chan.

[Vertigo]

4chan is kinda 'tame' compared to places like 8chan.

That place is

 

[Human Snorenado]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Yes, they've always been shitholes

[mormapope]

The discussions about The Sopranos on /tv/ are pretty good. I've seen a lot of people try to counter troll or counter stormfront-esque posters on that board more often than not. Food and cooking is another good board. If you're visiting 4chan to not engage in a specific hobby board and look for porn, the site is gonna be fucking terrible. Going to 4chan for the /v/ and /b/ boards is a fate worse than death.

/v/ and /b/ are filled with teenagers. Being edgy now means regurgitating alt right shit 1000%. /pol/ and /news/ are filled with people that really buy into that shit.

I'm not gonna say shitting on 4chan as a whole is unfair, there's vile shit being posted 24/7. But if you go to the most populated boards that inhabit people that were born in 2002, you can expect shitposting to the tenth degree. And its not like the boards are unified, tons of people hate /pol/ style posters.

[Phoenix Dark]

Do they hate on Carmella?

if so

[mormapope]

Gloria is #1 Sopranos waifu 



No TV drama has topped Carmella as the anti hero's wife. Breaking Bad was a limp attempt.

[Atramental]

4chan is kinda 'tame' compared to places like 8chan.

That place is

 

Probably one of the most demonic websites that isn't on the so called "dark web". 

[Mupepe]

Gloria is #1 Sopranos waifu 

(Image removed from quote.)

No TV drama has topped Carmella as the anti hero's wife. Breaking Bad was a limp attempt.

Bullshit. Give me the crazy fucking Russian.

[thisismyusername]

/v/ and /b/ are filled with teenagers. Being edgy now means regurgitating alt right shit 1000%. /pol/ and /news/ are filled with people that really buy into that shit.

/v/ used to be good. 2003-2007 /v/ was GDLK with actual discussion and comedy on games.


(Small images since I stupidly didn't .html/folder save these for harddrive space at the time)







/v/ now a days isn't good. It stopped being good around the middle of the PS3 area because it became console-wars (in the early era) and /b/ rejects started to invade. To the point where video game "generals" for actual discussions had to be spammed and those turned into /vg/ while Pokemon threads (that kickstarted the generals) became /vp/ and retro games were relegated to /vr/. I think m00t admitted defeat once the /b/ cancer invaded /v/ completely and people were sick of it.

[Positive Touch]

yeah ok racist

[thisismyusername]

And that same site brought "Anonymous" to the forefront where (wither you believe it or not) they have made some impact in national news. So it's not like every 4chan user is as alt-right as you're thinking they are.

this is the dumbest shit i've ever read

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_events_associated_with_Anonymous



Say what you want about their effects, but they make news. They've had lawyers actually talk about them. 4chan has had an impact good and bad. The same users ya'll are deriding are the same users that found animal abusers and child porn enthusiasts and report them to the police. So... *shrug* stay pressed about an anonymous image board you don't understand I guess?

yeah ok racist

 

[Atramental]

I never understood caping for websites just because they gave you lulz when you were 13. Never got 4chan. All it was good for was porn and tumblr destroys it in that aspect.

Tumblr does have some pretty good porn.

[seagrams hotsauce]

Lol, I understand 4chan just fine. "lawyers talked to them on the news" is a hilarious validation of a group of people who have negligible effects on anything despite dozens of 'operations' over the years. But keep acting like a dozen of their users failing to do anything means that isn't mostly populated with racist teenagers. It's not 8chan, but it's arguably worse than stormfront

[Rufus]

What is Stormfront actually like? White supremacist OT, or nonstop hate?

[benjipwns]

"lawyers talked to them on the news" is a hilarious validation of a group of people who have negligible effects on anything despite dozens of 'operations' over the years.

I saw those vans exploding. 

What is Stormfront actually like? White supremacist OT, or nonstop hate?

Pretty boring actually. I'd even argue it's actually pretty tame in its language/discussion.

Though last time I visited their most active thread was a "No True Scotsmen" debate about who exactly is the "whites" in "white supremacy" so that was reassuring/awesome.

[benjipwns]

We are a community of racial realists and idealists. We are White Nationalists who support true diversity and a homeland for all peoples. Thousands of organizations promote the interests, values and heritage of non-White minorities. We promote ours.

We are the voice of the new, embattled White minority!

If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the Introduction to Stormfront. You are also welcome to browse our other ten million posts, but you must register before you can post anywhere except the Open Forums.

Tell the truth and fear no one!

Sustaining Members (5 Viewing)
Private forum for those who've supported Stormfront financially.
Sub-Forums:  Stormfront Radio Show,  Stormfront Core Support Group,  Lifetime Members,  Next year's Stormfront Smoky Mountain Summit Oct. 1, 2016

Stormfront Gold 


Here's the first page of "When did you know you wanted to be part of the white power/nationaist/etc movement?" thread, it's basically...an internet forum thread:

I have a question....When did all of you KNOW that you wanted to be part of the white Power/Survival movement? (Neo-Nazi, KKK, Skinheads, and others)
And what sacrifices have you had to make in order to sustain your identity?

I'm not a White supremacist.

I'm a White survivalist, a racial realist, desiring to oppose the White racial death wish to which many of my people have succumbed.

It's a straightforward matter of self defence which I have no further need to justify.

What's this for your college paper?

In a month from now, you'll see an article on some Jewish website

"The making of a White Supremacist"

"White supremacist" is a Jewish MSM term. But since you ask:

I was a very "normal" kid up until aged 16. I listened to rap, smoked weed and derided the British National Party just like everyone else. Then me and my mother were threatened with death by a gang of brown Muslims in my own capital city of the land of my fathers going back thousands of years, I very quickly came to Stormfront, and the rest is history.

But I had always had an interest in the Third Reich and my own father was sympathetic to them and had some white nationalist sympathies which he told me to no effect back in the day, but he always taught me the victors write history and the Western powers had long been corrupt and Communist sympathising so I don't know without this whether I would have turned out like I did in total rejection of everything that is expected of a young person in the West these days.

As to who is worse, Jews or Blacks, they are both terrible in their own way but given the chance to remove Jews Blacks or Muslims I would say Blacks for sure. Without Blacks the Jews would not be nearly as terrible, and the Muslim question will solve itself now Muslim hate is practically mainstream.

This thread has a particular odor. Does not seem legit.

Troll thread.
Flame away.

I am a White nationalist not a supremacist but I will answer anyway.

The moment that my race, The most innovative race on this plaint was targeted for extinction by the Jewish elite. That is when I realized I wanted to be a protector of my race, my people, and the future for whites as a whole. I am from the U.S.A and I love my country but this is much bigger then any national pride.

The want us gone because of the same reason we are so great, Our mind. We are the smartest and most innovative race of people. This makes us hard to control and the Jewish elite Do not want that.

Science has shown that when race mixing happens the child always gets the IQ of the lest intelligent parent. They want a race of mixed people who have the average IQ of 80. Blacks have an average of 80 and look at with kind of people you are dealing with. They want us to be easy to control. They know the white man has got to go for that to happen.

"Without Blacks the Jews would not be nearly as terrible" - nudemacusers

[mormapope]

I never understood caping for websites just because they gave you lulz when you were 13. Never got 4chan. All it was good for was porn and tumblr destroys it in that aspect.

Don't judge a man on how he watches porn, judge the porn he watches 

Plus webm's are perfect for porn, more so than gifs or videos. Really easy to save and the file size is always small.

[curly]

Though last time I visited their most active thread was a "No True Scotsmen" debate about who exactly is the "whites" in "white supremacy" so that was reassuring/awesome.

In a "Southern Euros aren't actually white" way, or do they go full  and argue for the supremacy of the noble Normans over the servile Saxons?  I hope it's the latter, for my own amusement.

[Human Snorenado]

I never understood caping for websites just because they gave you lulz when you were 13. Never got 4chan. All it was good for was porn and tumblr destroys it in that aspect.

All the bondage tumblrs I follow

[mormapope]

There was a thread on stormfront about having funereal services for your cats or pets, like putting your pet in a casket and having a wake, the whole nine yards. A lot of posters thought it was heartwarming and an awesome thing to do.

Meanwhile, they think people with brown skin deserve to be enslaved or eradicated from the planet.

EDIT: Found the thread, its about cat funereals. 

[Trent Dole]

it gradually morphed from regular shitposting to shock-ironic racist/fascist shitposting to mock-ironic racist/fascist shitposting to just plain racist/fascist shitposting.

let this stand as a lesson: shitposting always leads to fascism.

I think it's still at shock-ironic racist/fascist shitposting. We just see it differently now because we grew up. It's just a new wave of 13 year olds trying to outdo each other, when they get to be our age they will  have the same conversation about the new slew of 13 year olds.

No, these people are genuinely unironically fascist 'alt-right' fuckheads. There was a text to speech singing app thread a while ago in I think a gif board that was full of horrible things that were far beyond jokes.

[Momo]

it gradually morphed from regular shitposting to shock-ironic racist/fascist shitposting to mock-ironic racist/fascist shitposting to just plain racist/fascist shitposting.

let this stand as a lesson: shitposting always leads to fascism.

I think it's still at shock-ironic racist/fascist shitposting. We just see it differently now because we grew up. It's just a new wave of 13 year olds trying to outdo each other, when they get to be our age they will  have the same conversation about the new slew of 13 year olds.

No, these people are genuinely unironically fascist 'alt-right' fuckheads. There was a text to speech singing app thread a while ago in I think a gif board that was full of horrible things that were far beyond jokes.

Horrible things that are far beyond jokes is kind of the point of it. 

[Your Stalker]

Does Stormfront have a white people tier list?

[bluemax]

The only person I've met IRL who openly admits to viewing 4chan is definitely one of the worst humans I've met and the living embodiment of someone pushing 40 who still thinks 4chan has valid points.

[curly]

Yeah I suspect it's like South Park fans, where "it's just a joke" turns into "but you know, they make some valid points"

[Momo]

I know a bunch of people from the chans IRL they are some of the nicest and most progressive people I know, they are all former channers though, you arent supposed to stay there, you're only supposed to spend your awkward youth there and once you get to be like idk 15, you fuck off (specifically the troll boards). Of the people I know online that are former channers the ones who used to post there are mostly normal well adjusted people, with one or two people still trying to be an edgy 12 year old continuing to post there. Even with them though they are *mostly* fine,  sometimes they say stupid shit because they are so used to the chans, but they usually catch themselves. I generally laugh, because how else am i supposed to take a hispanic puerto rican deadpan talking about building a wall? Shit is obvious satire.   

[Momo]

I'm not defending the stupidity that is the chans it's fucking dumb and people need to grow out of it, but the place is definitely not filled with evil shitlords that's going to kill your babies and blow up your mosques. It's a bunch of 12 year old nerds talking shit and other groups venting because their lives suck.