Anyone here have Solar Panels?

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Thinking of installing a hybrid set when/if we move back to the country side.

Price is like 12k, youll break even after 10 years and next 15/25 is profit. Plus you make your own juice which feels good.

Anyone got experience with this?

[brawndolicious]

I thought euroland had crazy subsidies too because I saw a ton of them on farmlands.

I'd recommend it now while energy prices are low, would raise your property value.

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Yeah I could prob get some subsidy too

Next home is a "forever" home so property value is not much of an issue

[Syph]

not yet but one day i will in order to honor the GOAT Elon Musk

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We might also get a full electric car, like a Nissan Leaf to commute if we need one. Those are pretty cheap second hand and have a 120/160km  radius which is fine for us probably.

All electric future 

[archnemesis]

Will your property increase more or less in value than what you spend on the investment? I'm not going to live in the same house a decade from now.

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This would be the house for the next 30/50 years hopefully.

[archnemesis]

If you have enough space for possible future kids then it might be a smart investment. Borehole heat exchangers are becoming increasingly popular here and it's a similar investment in cost and expected return (although for heat, rather than electricity.

[Am_I_Anonymous]

Had a few at my old house for a tax break. It takes 8 panels to power a nightlight, give or take.

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If you have enough space for possible future kids then it might be a smart investment. Borehole heat exchangers are becoming increasingly popular here and it's a similar investment in cost and expected return (although for heat, rather than electricity.

googling furiously

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

Solar panels are a huge hustle.  I think the potential is there but not yet.  I don't think I've known of anyone who has actually made a net profit from them.

[Mupepe]

Not sure about the regulations in Euroland, but if you can buy the panels in bulk through a group buy and have a friend (or yourself) install them then that's the way to go.  The installation is expensive, but it's actually not difficult.  The components are actually relatively cheap. 

The problem in the US is that tax credits are only available if it's installed by a licensed and certified installer and most home insurance will not cover your panels with normal insurance - especially if they're not installed by someone licensed.  And don't cheap out on secondary components like wiring. 

[Am_I_Anonymous]

Not sure about the regulations in Euroland, but if you can buy the panels in bulk through a group buy and have a friend (or yourself) install them then that's the way to go.  The installation is expensive, but it's actually not difficult.  The components are actually relatively cheap. 

The problem in the US is that tax credits are only available if it's installed by a licensed and certified installer and most home insurance will not cover your panels with normal insurance - especially if they're not installed by someone licensed.  And don't cheap out on secondary components like wiring.

This whole section of our economy is as dirty as a baby diaper. Read up on whom the government wants you to give your money to....yikes

[Am_I_Anonymous]

Not sure about the regulations in Euroland, but if you can buy the panels in bulk through a group buy and have a friend (or yourself) install them then that's the way to go.  The installation is expensive, but it's actually not difficult.  The components are actually relatively cheap. 

The problem in the US is that tax credits are only available if it's installed by a licensed and certified installer and most home insurance will not cover your panels with normal insurance - especially if they're not installed by someone licensed.  And don't cheap out on secondary components like wiring.

Wiring is wiring unless you buy some monocable Chinese shit. Your batteries and capacitors are where you will notice the impact of better product.

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Batteries are the way to go it seems to get a good ROI

[Tasty]

Borehole heat exchangers

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Borehole doesnt seem to be a thing in DK arch:( think due to district heating

@mupepe: i can either get a grants on the labour or on the panels, not both. best would be to install myself but... not a thing I want to fuck up

[naff]

Solar panels are a huge hustle.  I think the potential is there but not yet.  I don't think I've known of anyone who has actually made a net profit from them.

IIRC the silicon solar cells are super delicate, and the power generated is less efficient than other means of sustainable production rn e.g. a small wind turbine. I know there's a big push in research to create solar cells using plastics which are more durable than silicon, not sure where that's at. I would wait.

[Yeti]

Had a few at my old house for a tax break. It takes 8 panels to power a nightlight, give or take.

But if there is enough sunlight shining on your 8 panels, why would you need to power your nightlight? 

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Solar panels are a huge hustle.  I think the potential is there but not yet.  I don't think I've known of anyone who has actually made a net profit from them.

IIRC the silicon solar cells are super delicate, and the power generated is less efficient than other means of sustainable production rn e.g. a small wind turbine. I know there's a big push in research to create solar cells using plastics which are more durable than silicon, not sure where that's at. I would wait.

well yeah but you wont get a permit for a wind turbine in an urban area and they require more maintenance.

[naff]

Thinking of installing a hybrid set when/if we move back to the country side.

Where I'm from countryside doesn't mean urban area 

[naff]

Re solar, this seems like a pretty sweet product. Not released yet tho https://www.tesla.com/powerwall

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Thinking of installing a hybrid set when/if we move back to the country side.

Where I'm from countryside doesn't mean urban area 

Should have said, small town in the countryside.

Feels like countryside to me compared to the capital.

[chronovore]

Our estimate was the panels broke even after 8 years; we've been here for 9 so it should be profit territory by now. I think we paid nearly ¥2,000,000 for ours, which were the latest-and-greatest at that moment. Our house is all electric, so Spring and Fall we usually break even on the power bill -- half the year is "free."

In the USA, my sister has solar, and it seems like the government-sponsored private industries are involved in all manner of fuckery so they can maximize their profits even if it slows the uptake away from fossil fuel consumption. It's ridiculous.

Since the US government and private industry seems to drag their feet so badly, I keep wanting the Native Americans to install massive solar farms on their land and start selling power back out to the world.

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All electric sounds good except for heating. Would love to be self sufficient energy wise. Do you drive electric too?

Heating in Denmark is done by district heating mostly which is the most effective way I think one can do it.

[chronovore]

All electric sounds good except for heating. Would love to be self sufficient energy wise. Do you drive electric too?

Heating in Denmark is done by district heating mostly which is the most effective way I think one can do it.

I ride a bike and take electric trains pretty much everywhere. My wife drives a combustion vehicle.

We have an ambient heater which uses an electric cable run through a literal pile of bricks to warm them during off-peak hours when rates are lowest.