do people still make gaming desktop rigs? i want a desktop rig

[Positive Touch]

so where should i start? don't think I've looked at desktop parts since i helped my parents put together one in like 2000. what should i be looking for in terms of ram types, monitors, gpu brand, etc? not looking for some $3k monster or whatever, but i want something nice still.

[benjipwns]

"rig"

triggered

[archie4208]

What's your budget?  What resolution do you want to play at?

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/hmhgBP

I spent a whopping 5 minutes picking the parts to this and it would play basically everything out today at 1080p and 60 FPS at high/max (barring Deus Ex MD).

Granted you'll want to do your own research (especially with the case/mobo/PSU) and you might want a different CPU or GPU, but it's a decent baseline.

[Great Rumbler]

You can put together a very nice mid-range computer for about $1500 [or less, if you really shop around]. Most expensive parts will be the processor and GPU [I spent about $800 on an Intel i7 6700k and NVidia 1070, which completely destroy every game on the market right now], most of the rest won't matter too terribly much. Throw in as much RAM as you feel like buying, anything above 8gigs will do everything you need it to [DDR4 is the new hotness].

(barring Deus Ex MD)

Newest patch plus latest NVidia driver actually have helped Deus Ex's performance enormously.

[benjipwns]

Throw in as much RAM as you feel like buying

or need in the case of loading The Bore threads

an Intel i7 6700k and NVidia 1070

[Positive Touch]

thank you Rumbler i will get this 6700k and 1070 and i will destroy these games. Archie that site seems great although i can't seem to find this ddr5 ram on it

[Great Rumbler]

Ah, sorry, DDR4 is the most recent type of RAM.

[Human Snorenado]

What's your budget?  What resolution do you want to play at?

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/hmhgBP

I spent a whopping 5 minutes picking the parts to this and it would play basically everything out today at 1080p and 60 FPS at high/max (barring Deus Ex MD).

Granted you'll want to do your own research (especially with the case/mobo/PSU) and you might want a different CPU or GPU, but it's a decent baseline.

Dat's a good build

 

[El Babua]

> i7 6700k and 1070 being mid range 

But yeah, it's easier than ever to build a PC, both in terms of the building process and more importantly installing all the software/drivers afterwards. So have fun.

[Cerveza mas fina]

what kind of resolution do you play at Rumbler?

[Great Rumbler]

what kind of resolution do you play at Rumbler?

1920X1080

[archie4208]

> i7 6700k and 1070 being mid range 

But yeah, it's easier than ever to build a PC, both in terms of the building process and more importantly installing all the software/drivers afterwards. So have fun.

It was a nightmare to put on my CPU fan (fucking bracket wouldn't stay still) and to mount my mobo (fucking tiny screws). 

Otherwise building is just really expensive Legos.

[benjipwns]

i had a problem with mounting my fan a few months back, despite coolermasters claims i'm pretty sure it wasn't supposed to be installed the way the directions said since it said the mount the board in the case first for stability, which would have rendered the fact that you had to put a nut on underneath impossible, what i figured out on my own worked way better thanks to my copius amount of large politically themed books to hold up the massive heat sink's weight

was somehow still easier than the stock fans intel shipped with their core 2 duos

[benjipwns]

i remember when all the back panel and internal stuff like PCI/AGP/RAM/SATA slots first got color coded and it was like wait, why didn't this happen ten years ago

now i don't think mine actually are anymore for seemingly aesthetic purposes iirc everything inside is black and most of the back panel is just usb ports

[Human Snorenado]

Don't overclock and just use the stock fan



I've never had issues

[Great Rumbler]

Don't overclock and just use the stock fan



I've never had issues

CPUs don't have stock heatsinks/fans anymore, though.

This is the one that I got:

https://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Hyper-212-RR-212E-20PK-R2/dp/B005O65JXI

[benjipwns]

Intel doesn't ship their CPUs with fans anymore.

the one consistently highrated cooler master one can be had for like $18-20 or so often, i don't mind paying a little more in this case versus some of those cheapo third party fans

[benjipwns]

https://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Hyper-212-RR-212E-20PK-R2/dp/B005O65JXI

lol we literally bought the same cpu and cooler

if u bought g.skill ram and a gigabyte mobo we're gonna have to settle this outside

[Great Rumbler]

I bought an ASUS B150. 

[Human Snorenado]

Shit, must have stopped right after I got my i7 4790 a couple years ago. I DON'T WANT TO LIVE IN THIS WORLD WHERE I HAVE TO APPLY MY OWN THERMAL PASTE LIKE A PEASANT.

[fistfulofmetal]

pcpartpicker is such a stupendous site i'm shocked something like it hasn't existed already

[Positive Touch]

is it a lot more expensive to pick my parts and have a website put them together? i don't feel like going thru the trouble of building my own right now.

[Cerveza mas fina]

what kind of resolution do you play at Rumbler?

1920X1080

damn an i7 and a 1070 for 1080p, youre set

[Cerveza mas fina]

Intel doesn't ship their CPUs with fans anymore.

the one consistently highrated cooler master one can be had for like $18-20 or so often, i don't mind paying a little more in this case versus some of those cheapo third party fans

it does just not anything above the i5-6500, at least here

[archie4208]

is it a lot more expensive to pick my parts and have a website put them together? i don't feel like going thru the trouble of building my own right now.

It usually is, yeah.  A lot of websites don't offer that option anyway.

If you have a tech savvy friend, just give him 30 bucks to build it for you. 

[thisismyusername]

Intel doesn't ship their CPUs with fans anymore.

You mean that itty-bitty snap on fan over the CPU? When did that happen? Because like three years ago they were still shipping those.

[archie4208]

http://www.ncixus.com/products/?sku=7842

Apparently you can get it built for $50 if you buy your parts from this website.

[Positive Touch]

fuck alright I'll build this fucking pos. hope someone in stlbore built one before so i can call them when i fuck up.

also can't steam stream wirelessly now? do i need extra shit for that?

[Great Rumbler]

You just need a Steam Link box. Plug that into the TV and stream your desktop to it.

[a slime appears]

I put together a top of the line PC back in May and never looked back.

[thisismyusername]

You just need a Steam Link box. Plug that into the TV and stream your desktop to it.

Or just use a desktop that you already have. Streaming isn't *that* power-hungry.

[Cerveza mas fina]

streaming games 

whats the response delay on that

[thisismyusername]

whats the response delay on that

Depends on network/set-up.

[pilonv1]

I wouldn't be using it for online FPS but for everything else I tried it was perfectly fine

[Human Snorenado]

I played a lot of Witcher 3 using my steam link. Other than my computer running a bit hotter than normal, it was fine.

[Cerveza mas fina]

just didnt think dedicated pc people would make a concession like lag, thought playing on pc was all about no concessions

[Human Snorenado]

There are like, lots of different kinds of pc gamers. If you're playing competitive multi-player shit like fps games or mobas or whatever, then sure. If you just want to enjoy Witcher 3 on a big screen looking better than any of the shitbox consoles can output, then a little occasional lag is not a big deal, at least speaking for myself.

[Rufus]

PC gaming, if anything, is about options.

[Cerveza mas fina]

I agree, just the narrative in some circles is = PC gaming only worth it with 60fps, max settings, gsync, 4k, 1ms etc etc otherwise you need to upgrade.

Good to see some level headed people here.

[Rufus]

Don't listen to the PC masterrace shitters. Very few people are on the bleeding edge and as ever, they're not really catered to with appropriate content. Though I don't know that it matters all that much to people who run 1080 SLI setups and such.

[archnemesis]

PC gaming has always been cyclical to me. When I upgrade my computer I can run most games maxed out and then there is a gradual drop in quality until my GPU is too old to even run the games I want to play.

[thisismyusername]

I agree, just the narrative in some circles is = PC gaming only worth it with 60fps, max settings, gsync, 4k, 1ms etc etc otherwise you need to upgrade.

Good to see some level headed people here.

Frankly, 60FPS should be a target. But everything else is a slider. 4K is dumb, especially in the current budget-build climate. Most people will not care about 4K. Same with g-sync when v-sync has been there before that technology.

If you're fine with 30FPS, go for it. But most folks in multiplayer titles are going to be trying to target 60 or above.

[Cerveza mas fina]

I don't like playing FPS mp on pc really due to hacks etc.

PC gaming has always been cyclical to me. When I upgrade my computer I can run most games maxed out and then there is a gradual drop in quality until my GPU is too old to even run the games I want to play.

I usually start out on High then drop to low.

Just sold my 6 year old laptop yesterday thats been my main rig (i7,8gb, Geforce 555m) and would still run all Blizzard games plus things like Pillars etc.

Now looking to upgrade to a 1050 rig maybe next month (maybe 960m cause they are cheap now).

[Cerveza mas fina]

Apple has options, just none of them geared towards gaming.

Its like they don't want that gaming dollar.

I mean they could include a 960m in the Macbook Pro model at a 1300 bucks but they don't want to.

[pilonv1]

I agree, just the narrative in some circles is = PC gaming only worth it with 60fps, max settings, gsync, 4k, 1ms etc etc otherwise you need to upgrade.

Good to see some level headed people here.

I play Hitman at 1440p from anything between 35-60fps on my 970. Don't have it maxed at all but it still looks much better than anything on console

[mormapope]

I've decided to bite the bullet and get a modern gaming PC soon. Too lazy to shop around for parts and build the thing, so I'm gonna get this or go to Cyberpower's site and get a customized PC from them.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01HNBLHAA/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER

Seems like a incredibly solid "stock" rig for what I want to play and do, all the extra shit and components themselves are really well priced. $720 for something that would cost $800+ if you shopped for components individually.

[archnemesis]

Have you read GAF's PC build thread? I don't know your budget or your intended use, but a SSD and 16 GB of RAM are both good things to have.

[mormapope]

For me, I'm not really worried about having something future proof. I'm focusing on catching up to stuff in the past few years. I think the Cyberpower PC I linked to has a decent amount of slots for drives, and I'd be able to upgrade to 16GB ram if need be. 

[thisismyusername]

AMD...

Have you read GAF's PC build thread? I don't know your budget or your intended use, but a SSD and 16 GB of RAM are both good things to have.

Listen to this man. If you still have a GAF account, go post your budget and needs over there. Buy the parts through a build a PC site like NCIX (if I remember right) pay like $200 more for them to build it if you can't do it yourself and you're done.

[mormapope]

AMD...

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Have you read GAF's PC build thread? I don't know your budget or your intended use, but a SSD and 16 GB of RAM are both good things to have.

Listen to this man. If you still have a GAF account, go post your budget and needs over there. Buy the parts through a build a PC site like NCIX (if I remember right) pay like $200 more for them to build it if you can't do it yourself and you're done.

 

[thisismyusername]

I'm just sayin', it's the one bright point over there. The PC community is pretty level headed.

[BobFromPikeCreek]

Ordered a 1070 today

Came with Gears 4

PC gaming

[fistfulofmetal]

Fuck I am so close to getting a 1070 but making a huge purchase just makes me feel bad.

[Mr. Nobody]

i had a problem with mounting my fan a few months back, despite coolermasters claims i'm pretty sure it wasn't supposed to be installed the way the directions said since it said the mount the board in the case first for stability, which would have rendered the fact that you had to put a nut on underneath impossible, what i figured out on my own worked way better thanks to my copius amount of large politically themed books to hold up the massive heat sink's weight

was somehow still easier than the stock fans intel shipped with their core 2 duos

Clips 

[thisismyusername]

Ordered a 1070 today

Came with Gears 4

PC gaming

I'm so angry I bought a GPU two weeks ago. Though mine isn't eligible for this one.

[a slime appears]

Go to this site for some good recommendations:

http://www.logicalincrements.com/


Once you've generally figured out what you're doing start building with this site

https://pcpartpicker.com/

[bork]

Is there going to be much difference between the 1070 and 1080 if I'm using a 1080P monitor?

Was thinking about getting a desktop from Amazon.  This one seems like a good deal although a buddy said that the water cooling system in it looked like cheap shit.

[archnemesis]

If you read benchmarks there is a pretty big difference in performance between the two models. Do you have a high resolution monitor (e.g. 144 Hz or G-sync)? A 1070 is probably good enough if you're limited to 60 Hz.

I'm currently deciding between 1070, 1080, and the unreleased 1080Ti.

[a slime appears]

Is there going to be much difference between the 1070 and 1080 if I'm using a 1080P monitor?

Was thinking about getting a desktop from Amazon.  This one seems like a good deal although a buddy said that the water cooling system in it looked like cheap shit.

The wiser choice is to go 1070 over a 1080 since the price bump of a 1080 doesn't match the performance gains. If you just have a 1080p monitor you should probably look into upgrading that next ASAP.


About the PC you linked:

• The water cooling in there looks poor and is rather small; probably a budget custom config for Cyberpower.
• The cost is pretty damn high; for example I bought a better rig with higher quality parts for at least $500 cheaper.
• The rig is missing an SSD which is a deal-breaker.

[bork]

If you read benchmarks there is a pretty big difference in performance between the two models. Do you have a high resolution monitor (e.g. 144 Hz or G-sync)? A 1070 is probably good enough if you're limited to 60 Hz.

I'm currently deciding between 1070, 1080, and the unreleased 1080Ti.

I have this 60 Hz ultra-wide 2560x1080 monitor. It's fantastic for what it is and I don't plan on getting a higher-resolution monitor anytime soon, since I picked it up in May.  The ASUS MX monitors are awesome for gaming and the 27" model is at the top of the list on Displaylag.  I notice a performance hit when I game at that resolution; my laptop definitely can't handle it as well as 1920x1080 and I have to drop settings way down for some games, so while I wanted to wait until next year to get a new PC, I may do it this year instead.

About the PC you linked:

• The water cooling in there looks poor and is rather small; probably a budget custom config for Cyberpower.
• The cost is pretty damn high; for example I bought a better rig with higher quality parts for at least $500 cheaper.
• The rig is missing an SSD which is a deal-breaker.

Unless I missed something, it has a 240 GB SSD and a 2 TB HDD.

If I wanted a pre-built desktop, do you have a good recommendation?