Author Topic: do people still make gaming desktop rigs? i want a desktop rig (Read 12973 times)

a slime appears · « **Reply #60 on:** September 21, 2016, 11:00:48 AM »

I probably missed it, my bad. I only saw a 7200rpm drive mentioned in the specs.

I don't have recommendations for a pre-built desktop unfortunately.

thisismyusername · « **Reply #61 on:** September 21, 2016, 11:02:03 AM »

Quote from: bork pls on September 21, 2016, 09:59:03 AM

If I wanted a pre-built desktop, do you have a good recommendation?

Yeah: Don't.

I mean if you really want to overpay, get a PC from like NCIX with PC Partpicker parts. Do not do Water Cooling. That's dumb "ricer" bullshit you don't need. A Good aftermarket fan will keep your stuff cool even if you're going to Overclock. If you're doing 1080p for a few years (or longer) a 1060 will be more than enough for PS4-era stuff (maybe future proof with the 1070 if you have money to burn) the 1080GPU is for people with more money then sense, especially the Titan models. Don't worry about those.

Get a motherboard that is able to handle the new i5/i7's, get the 1060/70 GPU, get about 16Gig RAM with 2 8gig sticks (depending on DDR4 prices) and maybe an audio card (IIRC) and that's about all you need. Unless you want faster loads/OS boot-ups the Solid States really aren't that needed (says someone that got one this past month for a 3 year old PC)

bork · « **Reply #62 on:** September 21, 2016, 11:03:49 AM »

Not interested in building one. I want something that is ready to go. I know it costs more that way, but hey.

thisismyusername · « **Reply #63 on:** September 21, 2016, 11:04:31 AM »

Quote from: bork pls on September 21, 2016, 11:03:49 AM

Not interested in building one. I want something that is ready to go. I know it costs more that way, but hey.

Then pick the parts I just told you to pick (mobo, cheap GPU, RAM) and get NCIX to build it. Don't do a pre-built and definitely don't do a watercooler if you're not wanting to build yourself. You're better off spending the ~$1000 (depending on budget) and the like $200 service/build-it-for-you fee than buying a pre-built with stuff that you won't really know how to use/dumb shit that fan cooling can do without worry.

a slime appears · « **Reply #64 on:** September 21, 2016, 11:16:02 AM »

Building a PC yourself is so stupidly easy. Even ram timings are a thing of the past.

Compared to 10 years ago, building a PC today is fisher price levels of difficulty.

thisismyusername · « **Reply #65 on:** September 21, 2016, 11:18:59 AM »

I mean, I can understand the caution but if a part breaks you're gonna have to fuck about with the water cooler to replace the part. Which is where my "don't do that if you're a first timer" comes in.

I just quickly threw this together. I'm not sure about the performance but this just shows you that you'd save like $300, lose the water cooling (no big deal), lose the 8 USB slots (do you really need that many?

) and the keyboard and mouse (meh) but get nearly the same thing for slightly cheaper and then you can throw in the $200 "build-it-for-you" on that and save like $100 less (but I haven't put in an audio card or DVD/Blu-ray drives if you need that)

Also from what I saw some these are kinda overkill depending on what you're doing and definitely for 1080p.

The 1060 is budget (and I got it last week) so if you wanted to burn another $200 or so the 1070 would be fine.

I'll even throw in the SSD I bought earlier this month just because.

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #66 on:** September 21, 2016, 01:06:37 PM »

Building is nice, but there is also that nice feeling of buying a finished product

Brehvolution · « **Reply #67 on:** September 21, 2016, 01:19:14 PM »

Quote from: a slime appears on September 21, 2016, 11:16:02 AM

Building a PC yourself is so stupidly easy. Even ram timings are a thing of the past.

Compared to 10 years ago, building a PC today is fisher price levels of difficulty.

Simple things for me yet highly complicated to someone else is pretty lucrative.

bork · « **Reply #68 on:** September 21, 2016, 02:00:09 PM »

User, what you are suggesting is $1342.57. I'd rather pay a couple hundred more and get something from a company with a warranty and an easy return policy, as well as from a place where I can pay in installments-- I already blew a nice chunk of change buying a Surface Pro 4 outright a little while ago. Hence Amazon.

Quote from: a slime appears on September 21, 2016, 11:16:02 AM

Building a PC yourself is so stupidly easy. Even ram timings are a thing of the past.

Compared to 10 years ago, building a PC today is fisher price levels of difficulty.

The funny thing is that I've done it before-- I took a course on hardware and add to completely disassemble a desktop, then put it back together again. I had never done this before and had no trouble.

Then two years ago, I tried upgrading the power supply and graphics card on the the desktop I had...and killed it.

fistfulofmetal · « **Reply #69 on:** September 22, 2016, 07:37:12 AM »

just ordered a 1070

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #70 on:** September 22, 2016, 08:41:02 AM »

Who here games on a laptop?

a slime appears · « **Reply #71 on:** September 22, 2016, 09:00:43 AM »

Quote from: Brehvolution on September 21, 2016, 01:19:14 PM

Quote from: a slime appears on September 21, 2016, 11:16:02 AM
Building a PC yourself is so stupidly easy. Even ram timings are a thing of the past.

Compared to 10 years ago, building a PC today is fisher price levels of difficulty.

Simple things for me yet highly complicated to someone else is pretty lucrative.

Building your own PC

I built my new PC back in May. Last time I built a PC was in 2006. Shit just worked the first time with ZERO issues! The only hiccup was waiting for my MSI GTX 1080 Gaming X. Even fucking bought a Asus ROG 165hz 1440p monitor, PC gaming is fucking bliss.

archnemesis · « **Reply #72 on:** September 22, 2016, 09:32:30 AM »

Quote from: Premium Lager on September 22, 2016, 08:41:02 AM

Who here games on a laptop?

I only use laptops when I'm on the move. A desktop with a good monitor, a full-sized keyboard and a good mouse is so much nicer to work with. If I only had a laptop I would probably do most of my gaming on consoles.

bork · « **Reply #73 on:** September 22, 2016, 09:49:59 AM »

Quote from: Premium Lager on September 22, 2016, 08:41:02 AM

Who here games on a laptop?

I do- Have a nice little Sager.

But it's hooked up to an external monitor and I almost never unhook it.

fistfulofmetal · « **Reply #74 on:** September 22, 2016, 10:18:47 PM »

1070

Beezy · « **Reply #75 on:** September 23, 2016, 12:07:39 AM »

I need to replace my GTX 680 before the year is over. How did you guys decide which version of the 1070 to get? Just looked on newegg and there's way too many to choose from.

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #76 on:** September 23, 2016, 12:26:36 AM »

Eh, it doesn't really matter. There's some slight variance in performance, but not much.

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #77 on:** September 23, 2016, 02:17:12 AM »

Wait for Vega

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:'(

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archnemesis · « **Reply #78 on:** September 23, 2016, 03:50:38 AM »

Quote from: Beezy on September 23, 2016, 12:07:39 AM

I need to replace my GTX 680 before the year is over. How did you guys decide which version of the 1070 to get? Just looked on newegg and there's way too many to choose from.

I generally go for models that are overclocked with extra cooling (mostly because of the lower noise levels) with good user reviews. For the 1070 series there are several good alternatives with either three fans, or two oversized fans.

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #79 on:** September 23, 2016, 06:38:55 AM »

I read somewhere there is an issue with 1070 that have a Micron chipset or something, if you wanna OC.

fistfulofmetal · « **Reply #80 on:** September 23, 2016, 09:25:26 AM »

Quote from: Beezy on September 23, 2016, 12:07:39 AM

I need to replace my GTX 680 before the year is over. How did you guys decide which version of the 1070 to get? Just looked on newegg and there's way too many to choose from.

I bought the best selling EVGA model on Amazon:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01I60OGUK/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

BobFromPikeCreek · « **Reply #81 on:** September 23, 2016, 10:39:48 AM »

I went with EVGA superclocked. Idk if that actually means anything lol.

Beezy · « **Reply #82 on:** September 23, 2016, 11:06:10 AM »

Quote from: fistfulofmetal on September 23, 2016, 09:25:26 AM

Quote from: Beezy on September 23, 2016, 12:07:39 AM
I need to replace my GTX 680 before the year is over. How did you guys decide which version of the 1070 to get? Just looked on newegg and there's way too many to choose from.

I bought the best selling EVGA model on Amazon:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01I60OGUK/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Thanks everyone, I'll just go with this. I tried Forza Motorsport 6 Apex on my PC last night in anticipation for Horizon 3 and it looked like ass, so I figured it's time to upgrade. I can't complain. Got my current card from Smooth Groove almost 3 years ago.

bork · « **Reply #83 on:** September 27, 2016, 04:52:14 PM »

OK, definitely getting something new now-- I put up my Virtual Boy games (which includes Jack Bros., nice n' rare), two Gameboy games, and one Gameboy Advance game. on eBay this afternoon. All of them sold and I came out with over $1,000.

I got some other funds too that puts me at a bit over $1,200. I can foot the bill for another $400-$600 to get something crazy but I will also likely sell my laptop to a buddy and get another few hundred.

So now I'm not sure what to buy. I want to get something INSANE now.

bork · « **Reply #84 on:** September 27, 2016, 08:15:59 PM »

OK, done. I'm going with an MSI Nightblade MI2 from CUK. Decided to get a 1070 instead of a 1080 card and save a bit. I don't think I need the 1080 since I'm doing 1080P gaming for at least two or three more years. Can always upgrade later. Will end up costing me less than $300 out of my own pocket.

Specs:
Processor: Intel Core i7-6700K Quad Core Processor (8M Cache, 4.0GHz - 4.2GHz) 91W
RAM: 32GB DDR4 2133MHz | Hard Drives: 250GB Solid State Drive + 2TB Solid State Hybrid Disk Drive
Optical Drive: SuperMulti 8X DVD+/-R/RW Dual Layer | Operating System: Windows 10 x64
Graphics Card: Geforce GTX 1070 8GB GDDR5 | Wireless: 802.11 AC Wireless Card
i7-6700K / 32GB RAM / 250GB SSD / 2TB SSHD / GTX 1070 Upgrades*

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #85 on:** September 27, 2016, 09:55:18 PM »

That's pretty much the same computer I've got. Unless you're playing at a really high resolution, you should be able to blow every game out of the water with ease.

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #86 on:** September 27, 2016, 10:00:07 PM »

Yeah, you are set on 1080p for a while. Maxed-out settings and everything.

I'm probably gonna try to put together something similar but looking at 1440p, maybe.

bork · « **Reply #87 on:** September 27, 2016, 10:30:21 PM »

Quote from: Great Rumbler on September 27, 2016, 09:55:18 PM

That's pretty much the same computer I've got. Unless you're playing at a really high resolution, you should be able to blow every game out of the water with ease.

My monitor is 2560x1080, so I really just need an extra boost in power to run games at higher/max settings over my laptop, and this should do the trick nicely. I usually game at 1920x1080 on non ultra-wide supported games, but there are the occasional games that stretch out when not at 2560x1080 and this will no longer be a problem.

I've already been gaming at 1080P but generally can't run stuff maxed out. Most recent games are low/medium settings so this will make for a nice upgrade.

Although I have thought about hooking this PC up alongside my consoles, on my other 1920x1080 27" monitor, and just using it as a gaming box-- my Surface would then be docked to the ultra-wide monitor. Probably won't though.

Quote from: CajoleJuice on September 27, 2016, 10:00:07 PM

Yeah, you are set on 1080p for a while. Maxed-out settings and everything.

I'm probably gonna try to put together something similar but looking at 1440p, maybe.

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #88 on:** September 28, 2016, 03:20:20 AM »

i7-6700K is such overkill lol is there anything even that would get bottlenecked by an i5-6500? Don't think so.

Great rig though obviously.

Beezy · « **Reply #89 on:** September 28, 2016, 03:59:13 AM »

Quote from: CajoleJuice on September 27, 2016, 10:00:07 PM

Yeah, you are set on 1080p for a while. Maxed-out settings and everything.

I'm probably gonna try to put together something similar but looking at 1440p, maybe.

What's needed for 1440p at 60fps?

Rufus · « **Reply #90 on:** September 28, 2016, 04:05:02 AM »

Quote from: Beezy on September 28, 2016, 03:59:13 AM

Quote from: CajoleJuice on September 27, 2016, 10:00:07 PM
Yeah, you are set on 1080p for a while. Maxed-out settings and everything.

I'm probably gonna try to put together something similar but looking at 1440p, maybe.
What's needed for 1440p at 60fps?

The same thing will do 1440p/60fps. No need to get a Titan X for that.

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #91 on:** September 28, 2016, 10:14:06 AM »

Quote from: Rufus on September 28, 2016, 04:05:02 AM

Quote from: Beezy on September 28, 2016, 03:59:13 AM
Quote from: CajoleJuice on September 27, 2016, 10:00:07 PM
Yeah, you are set on 1080p for a while. Maxed-out settings and everything.

I'm probably gonna try to put together something similar but looking at 1440p, maybe.
What's needed for 1440p at 60fps?
The same thing will do 1440p/60fps. No need to get a Titan X for that.

The 1070 is actually slightly faster than a Titan X.

Beezy · « **Reply #92 on:** September 28, 2016, 10:17:47 AM »

Cool. I don't have a monitor capable of that, but maybe I'll look into one next year if they're not too expensive.

Rufus · « **Reply #93 on:** September 28, 2016, 02:53:11 PM »

Quote from: Great Rumbler on September 28, 2016, 10:14:06 AM

Quote from: Rufus on September 28, 2016, 04:05:02 AM
Quote from: Beezy on September 28, 2016, 03:59:13 AM
Quote from: CajoleJuice on September 27, 2016, 10:00:07 PM
Yeah, you are set on 1080p for a while. Maxed-out settings and everything.

I'm probably gonna try to put together something similar but looking at 1440p, maybe.
What's needed for 1440p at 60fps?
The same thing will do 1440p/60fps. No need to get a Titan X for that.

The 1070 is actually slightly faster than a Titan X.

The Maxwell one from 2015. They now have a Pascal based one, too. Also named Titan X. Because that's a smart thing to do.

Then again, anyone buying it probably pays very close attention.

http://www.geforce.com/hardware/10series/titan-x-pascal

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #94 on:** September 28, 2016, 04:39:46 PM »

Quote from: Beezy on September 28, 2016, 10:17:47 AM

Cool. I don't have a monitor capable of that, but maybe I'll look into one next year if they're not too expensive.

Yeah, I just meant that I would put together basically the same build as bork, but use it on a 1440p monitor, which many reviews say is the sweet spot for the 1070. I really don't have a monitor right now, other than some 1080p LCD that's more a TV than a monitor, so I'd be willing to go out and buy a new monitor at 1440p.

bork · « **Reply #95 on:** September 29, 2016, 11:26:54 AM »

PC arrived.

The box is small enough that you could mistake this thing for a console, damn!

fistfulofmetal · « **Reply #96 on:** September 29, 2016, 12:45:22 PM »

My 1070 is awesome but I think I'm bottlenecking it in other places. I'm running an i7 3770, it's a few generations old. 16GB DDR3 Ram. I feel like I want to upgrade to the newest gen i7 or i5, and get some DDR4 memory.

bork · « **Reply #97 on:** September 30, 2016, 07:29:08 AM »

Games like Street Fighter V and Overwatch run at max detail settings and 60 FPS, as expected.

Then I got to Rise Of The Tomb Raider. Everything maxed out. 2560x1080 ultra widescreen 21:9 picture. It ran buttery smooth. I saw effects that I don't think I've seen in other games before.

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #98 on:** September 30, 2016, 07:55:22 AM »

Nice mate

Eye candy is still alive

Diminishing returns

bork · « **Reply #99 on:** October 02, 2016, 11:01:41 PM »

Tested some games over the weekend on my new MSI Nightblade MI2 PC. Was able to run every game I tried, save one, maxed-out at the highest detail settings on my 2560x1080 ultra-wide monitor. I don't have FRAPS installed right now but on games with FPS counters, I was getting 60 FPS. I think Rise Of The Tomb Raider had some dips but stayed extremely high. The one game that had performance issues was Deus Ex Human Revolution. It stuttered like crazy.

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #100 on:** October 03, 2016, 03:07:56 AM »

Those MSI desktops are really kawaii man, how much did it cost?

Rufus · « **Reply #101 on:** October 03, 2016, 05:13:05 AM »

Ultrawide has its appeal, I must admit.

bork · « **Reply #102 on:** October 03, 2016, 07:34:57 AM »

Quote from: Premium Lager on October 03, 2016, 03:07:56 AM

Those MSI desktops are really kawaii man, how much did it cost?

There's an Amazon reseller with different configurations at all different prices. Some of them make no sense-- I saw ones with older graphics cards and less RAM for more money or the same price.

But this particular one was $1,690.

Quote from: Rufus on October 03, 2016, 05:13:05 AM

Ultrawide has its appeal, I must admit.

I got it more for non-gaming reasons -mainly for browsing/movie watching/both at the same time/etc- but it's really nice to have something close to a dual monitor setup without a bezel in the middle.

Quote from: Dufus on October 03, 2016, 05:30:19 AM

Quote from: bork pls on October 02, 2016, 11:01:41 PM
ultra-wide monitor

Quote from: bork pls on October 02, 2016, 11:01:41 PM
2560x1080

Didn't want to go with something higher-resolution at the time and I love ASUS' MX monitors.

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #103 on:** October 03, 2016, 12:23:17 PM »

No Witcher 3 screenshots?

bork · « **Reply #104 on:** October 03, 2016, 12:44:25 PM »

Quote from: Human Snorenado on October 03, 2016, 12:23:17 PM

No Witcher 3 screenshots?

No Witcher 3

I would never finish that game. I will try out that Cyberpunk game whenever it comes out, however.

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #105 on:** October 03, 2016, 02:24:25 PM »

Oh noes, can't be bothered to play one of the legit greatest games ever, but will dump untold hours into Professor Prole's Panty Patrol

bork · « **Reply #106 on:** October 03, 2016, 02:36:15 PM »

Why would I buy something that I know I'm never going to play through? I'm not too big on medieval fantasy RPGs. I mean, the game looks cool and all...but I'd probably play it for like an hour or two and never touch it again.

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(Which I guess is the M.O. for most Steam users.)

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Quote from: Human Snorenado on October 03, 2016, 02:24:25 PM

Professor Prole's Panty Patrol

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #107 on:** October 03, 2016, 03:51:53 PM »

The gods of good taste need to pay you a visit

Brehvolution · « **Reply #108 on:** October 03, 2016, 04:24:49 PM »

Quote from: bork pls on October 03, 2016, 02:36:15 PM

Why would I buy something that I know I'm never going to play through? I'm not too big on medieval fantasy RPGs. I mean, the game looks cool and all...but I'd probably play it for like an hour or two and never touch it again.

Wrong. That game grips you. You will be thinking about it at work and dreaming about it at night.

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #109 on:** October 03, 2016, 04:26:05 PM »

Its just the best game I ever played but sure skip it.

bork · « **Reply #110 on:** October 03, 2016, 09:38:36 PM »

OK, I'll tell youse guys wut-- I'll give it a try once it pops up on sale.

El Babua · « **Reply #111 on:** October 03, 2016, 11:51:36 PM »

Witcher 3 also has a variety of waifus if that sweetens the pot any.

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #112 on:** October 04, 2016, 01:01:57 AM »

team jen

bork · « **Reply #113 on:** October 04, 2016, 10:51:29 PM »

OK, onto DisplayPort. I wondered what the difference was between this and HDMI, and couldn't really find a clear answer, so I ordered a cable to try for myself. Some say that it helps with monitors that run at 144hz, but I have no idea if it really does anything for a 60hz monitor.

I plugged the cable in and right away noticed that the picture was brighter. The image quality also seems a little sharper. OK, cool.

I woke up this morning and got no signal on the monitor. Plugged HDMI back in and got a signal. Did some testing this evening:

-This isn't a problem with the cable.
-It's not a problem with the (multiple) displayport inputs on the PC.
-Changed the nVidia power settings to maximum, based on a recommendation. No effect.
-I had a mini displayport-to-displayport cable for my Surface. Got no signal with it too.
-Unplugged the monitor (including the power cord from the outlet) for a few minutes, based on a recommendation I got that didn't seem like it would work...but it did.
-Plugged the monitor back in. Got a signal with the Surface.
-Put the Surface in standby. Got a signal but it reset the display settings I had selected.
-Plugged the displayport cable back into the PC. Got no signal.
-Unplugged the HDMI cable from the PC and got a signal.

Am wondering if this is just too much 'power' for the monitor to handle. Maybe it supports an earlier standard of displayport or something? If it happens again, it's back to HDMI. Just weird.

EDIT: The cable was from CableMatters. I see people complaining about their quality. Back it goes-- made sure to check displayport.org and went with a VESA-certified one instead.

thisismyusername · « **Reply #114 on:** October 04, 2016, 10:58:16 PM »

Quote from: bork pls on October 03, 2016, 02:36:15 PM

Why would I buy something that I know I'm never going to play through? I'm not too big on medieval fantasy RPGs. I mean, the game looks cool and all...but I'd probably play it for like an hour or two and never touch it again.

spoiler (click to show/hide)
(Which I guess is the M.O. for most Steam users.)
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Quote from: Human Snorenado on October 03, 2016, 02:24:25 PM
Professor Prole's Panty Patrol

Because the Witcher is one of the decent ones out there. I haven't played Witcher 2 or 3, but the first one was pretty fun in a 2007 jank way. Plus the character is pretty good in the books.

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Author Topic: do people still make gaming desktop rigs? i want a desktop rig (Read 12973 times)