Screw the Nintendo Switch, buy the PS4 pro and return to JRPG godness

[SantaC]

damn, when was the last time we had these strong jrpgs coming out within the next 4 months? probably not in 10 years atleast. These three games will last me to summer 2017. Time to pick up a pro this friday 

[Great Rumbler]

I'll just wait until those get a Steam release later in the year.

[Rahxephon91]

You've also got Nier, World of FF, Exist Archive, Odin Sphere HD, Grand Kingdom,  and Digimon Cyberslueth. So there's plenty of solid JRPGS on the system.

[Bebpo]

Actually pretty curious if P5 will get a patch since it came out before the deadline in Japan.  Could definitely use the supersampling to get rid of jaggies.

[demi]

Cant wait for the inevitable posts by SantaC:

"FFXV is overrated - why does GAF love this game?"

"When will the Tales series be good? Berseria is crap"

"Could Persona be any more outdated and overrated? Ugh"

You two-faced poverty stricken fuckup

[SantaC]

I'll just wait until those get a Steam release later in the year.

I guess all of them will come to PC one day (Berseria is day one on steam), but I rather not wait a year or two for FFXV and Persona 5.

Cant wait for the inevitable posts by SantaC:

"FFXV is overrated - why does GAF love this game?"

"When will the Tales series be good? Berseria is crap"

"Could Persona be any more outdated and overrated? Ugh"

You two-faced poverty stricken fuckup

 

It's true if you swap Final Fantasy with Zelda.

[archie4208]

I caved in and bought a Pro. 

I'll just wait until those get a Steam release later in the year.

It's already pretty late in the year. 

[mormapope]

What does the PS4 PRO do for JRPGs when it comes to visuals and performance that the PS4 can't do?

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Better yet, the PS3 or Vita 

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[SantaC]

Why the nintendo jab? You still not over them doing whatever they did to break your heart

Only game that looks good there is Persona 5, btw. Not like anybody buys consoles for JRPGs anymore anyway.

wii u was my last nintendo console. I am incredibly burned by it.

[Rahxephon91]

What does the PS4 PRO do for JRPGs when it comes to visuals and performance that the PS4 can't do?

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Better yet, the PS3 or Vita 

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Ironically only one game mentioned there has any Pro Enhancements.  Yet, 15 may have some actual good enhancements at that.

[SantaC]

What does the PS4 PRO do for JRPGs when it comes to visuals and performance that the PS4 can't do?

spoiler (click to show/hide)

Better yet, the PS3 or Vita 

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Ironically only one game mentioned there has any Pro Enhancements.  Yet, 15 may have some actual good enhancements at that.

pro is just a better console overall. SATA3 disk and Wifi AC.

[thisismyusername]

What does the PS4 PRO do for JRPGs when it comes to visuals and performance that the PS4 can't do?

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Better yet, the PS3 or Vita 

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Ironically only one game mentioned there has any Pro Enhancements.  Yet, 15 may have some actual good enhancements at that.

pro is just a better console overall. SATA3 disk and Wifi AC.

SATA3 doesn't matter in anything but loading.

[MMaRsu]

I really dont need a pro for any of those games

[SantaC]

What does the PS4 PRO do for JRPGs when it comes to visuals and performance that the PS4 can't do?

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Better yet, the PS3 or Vita 

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Ironically only one game mentioned there has any Pro Enhancements.  Yet, 15 may have some actual good enhancements at that.

pro is just a better console overall. SATA3 disk and Wifi AC.

SATA3 doesn't matter in anything but loading.

who doesnt hate loading times?

[thisismyusername]

Oh boy, I get a whole five seconds off a 2 minute load-time! Time to repay $500 for a Pro!  *jackoff emote*

It's like buying more RAM than you need for games: It gives a small marginal benefit that isn't worth the investment. You'd be better off complaining to Sony to actually have Solid State Drives (that do impact loading more) do something on the PS4 instead of hindering.

[Beezy]

Won't these all end up on either PS3, Vita, Xbox One, or PC at some point also? I'll stick to my rule of getting Sony consoles late in their life.

[Beezy]

Won't these all end up on either PS3, Vita, Xbox One, or PC at some point also? I'll stick to my rule of getting Sony consoles late in their life.

That only really worked out for the PS3 though. Which started off garbage till later on when it had decent exclusives. So far I only like two exclusives on the PS4, but really in this era getting a console is only if you don't really want a PC anyway.

I got the PS2 last also cause I was still a ninthing. :'(

All my friends had PS2s anyway, so I never felt like I missed much that gen.

[SantaC]

Oh boy, I get a whole five seconds off a 2 minute load-time! Time to repay $500 for a Pro!  *jackoff emote*

It's like buying more RAM than you need for games: It gives a small marginal benefit that isn't worth the investment. You'd be better off complaining to Sony to actually have Solid State Drives (that do impact loading more) do something on the PS4 instead of hindering.

You act like SATA3 is the only thing they added. Lets see:

-faster cpu
-better gpu
-more RAM
-better wifi (the current one is garbage)
-sata3 to use SSD disks

I am sure I forgot something, but the Pro is a nice machine indeed.

[MMaRsu]

Its all barely 'faster'

Isnt it the same CPU just OC'd?

Also lol wifi

[Human Snorenado]

SantaC thread? SantaC thread.

[tiesto]

I doubt you're gonna see many Japanese devs take advantage of the PS4 Pro, hell Berseria and Persona 5 still have PS3 versions PS4 regular is still the way to go for RPG fans though who wanna game on the big screen, for now...

Switch may be good if the 3DS RPGs migrate to it as well as possibly some Vita niche devs (though these will probably go PS4 once the Vita kicks the bucket). And will get the next Monolith game and DQ11 (cross platform).

[Sho Nuff]

 

[Rufus]

I wouldn't count on faster load times with a SATA3 SSD. If they've maxed out SATA2, then maybe, but the CPU still has to do all the work decompressing the data it shovels into memory. If the clock bump is not significant enough it might only shave off a couple of seconds.

Just looked at the specs again: the GPU is the biggest upgrade, basically doubled its raw power. The 400MHz clock bump on the CPU is also nice. I forgot that the original was at 1,6GHz.

[SantaC]

Its all barely 'faster'

Isnt it the same CPU just OC'd?

Also lol wifi

Double gpu power is barely faster?

[benjipwns]

finally, i won't feel stupid when i automatically go into the settings in console games because there will be graphics settings


now we just need "advanced options"

[Positive Touch]

i imagine ps4 pro will be about as amazing an upgrade as the n64 expansion pack was to that systems games

[benjipwns]

You think Sony will allow it to be required (DK64, Perfect Dark, Majora's Mask)?

The fact that Conker didn't even use it was the second most impressive thing Rare did after Blast Corps.

[Mr. Nobody]

Cant wait for the inevitable posts by SantaC:

"FFXV is overrated - why does GAF love this game?"

"When will the Tales series be good? Berseria is crap"

"Could Persona be any more outdated and overrated? Ugh"

You two-faced poverty stricken fuckup

 

[bork]

finally, i won't feel stupid when i automatically go into the settings in console games because there will be graphics settings
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now we just need "advanced options"

So much for "plug and play."  Installing games, downloading updates, patches, and now performance settings?  Consoles have never looked more like gimped PCs than they do now.

[MMaRsu]

finally, i won't feel stupid when i automatically go into the settings in console games because there will be graphics settings
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now we just need "advanced options"

So much for "plug and play."  Installing games, downloading updates, patches, and now performance settings?  Consoles have never looked more like gimped PCs than they do now.

Exactly why its a great time to switch back to PC gaming as my main . Just gotta save up for a GREAT pc.

[tiesto]

finally, i won't feel stupid when i automatically go into the settings in console games because there will be graphics settings
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now we just need "advanced options"

So much for "plug and play."  Installing games, downloading updates, patches, and now performance settings?  Consoles have never looked more like gimped PCs than they do now.

Exactly why its a great time to switch back to PC gaming as my main . Just gotta save up for a GREAT pc.

Or keep your old one and download a bunch of Falcom games for it like me. XANADU NEXT AND TITS

[MMaRsu]

My old one doesnt even turn on anymore. I think there maybe something wrong with it 

I'm just using my laptop now 

[SantaC]

I got my Pro today 

[nachobro]

what a goofy looking console

[Mr. Nobody]

what a goofy looking console

What's wrong, you don't like Big Macs?













Big Macs

[bork]

I got my "Pro" back at the end of September

[bork]

Hideously awesome.

[SantaC]

My desk is so dusty. I hate cleaning.

[archie4208]

I got my "Pro" back at the end of September
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That's a PS5. 

[Brehvolution]

I'm picking my son's pro up after work.

[Mr. Nobody]

I got my "Pro" back at the end of September
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How loud is this?

[Great Rumbler]

I've got a PC with a front fan, huge CPU fan, fan on the power supply, 2 fans on the graphics card and it barely makes any sound at all.

[SantaC]

I've got a PC with a front fan, huge CPU fan, fan on the power supply, 2 fans on the graphics card and it barely makes any sound at all.

thats because the fans are temp controlled.

[Rufus]

The fans are also much larger, so they don't have to spin as fast as the blower in the PS4.

[Great Rumbler]

I've got a PC with a front fan, huge CPU fan, fan on the power supply, 2 fans on the graphics card and it barely makes any sound at all.

thats because the fans are temp controlled.

And the i7 and GTX 1070 run very cool.

[bork]

I got my "Pro" back at the end of September
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How loud is this?

Surprisingly quiet.  It sits on my desk very close to my monitor, too.  Am really impressed with how they managed to cram so much into such a small form factor and have it run so well.  Literally half the inside of the PC is just the GTX 1070 alone. 

[bork]

shitty wallpaper too

what the hell happened to Scandinavian minimalism?

 

[Dickie Dee]

Requesting mods change SantaC's name to SATA3

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  SATA3 

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[SantaC]

the pro is great. Right of the bat the framerate is better in BF1.

[Cerveza mas fina]

There is a good trade in deal at Gamestop here, but si havent finished Rotr yet so I cant get it

[archie4208]

The only game I've played so far is Bloodborne. 

Good thing it's pretty fucking awesome.

[archie4208]

Wanna play some Driveclub.

Put the disc into the system

Gotta download a 20gb patch

gg modern gaming

[demi]

wanting to play driveclub in 2016 EleGiggle

[Rahxephon91]

Got mine. It's ok. I've tried Tomb Raider, FFXV Demo, Call of Duty IW, and TitanFall 2. They look really really clean.

http://imgur.com/a/40qSE

Whatever, you can't see anything in that picture.

[SantaC]

PS4 pro with SSD vs PS4 with regular HD

[Joe Molotov]

Sonyponies are desperate to be PC gamers.

[Bebpo]

My Ps4 Pro after getting lost at UPS showed up today.  Doing the 90 minute system transfer.

To be honest, I'm pretty fucking pissed at Sony for this system.  Like I already have a top of the line 60fps ultra settings gaming PC, so I'm buying this entirely for 1st party and Japanese not-yet-on-PC developers.  Also, perfectly know that it's only a bit more powerful than PS4, so not expecting a lot. That's fine, got no problem with it or spending $400 for a little stronger PS4.

BUT, I bought the thing on the idea I could swap it out for my PS4 and it would have 100% perfect compatibility and basically be a PS4 + better framerate/AA on games from this point on.  But now, not only are about 30% of released games running WORSE on Pro (fuck you devs, lower your goddamn resolution a touch and lock the framerate at 30fps), or they have an option to play at regular PS4 graphics with unlocked framerates fluctuating between 30-60fps which again is running WORSE on Pro than a locked 30fps game on regular PS4 imo, but on top of that World of FF is broken and looks like shit so there goes 100% compatibility.  It pisses me off because World of FF is actually a game I want to play in a couple months when I have some time for it, but now I'm literally going to plug in my old PS4 (which otherwise I'd give to a friend who doesn't have a PS4) and swap activations back and play World of FF on my old PS4 and maybe I'll do that for other games too if they're gonna run noticeably worse on Pro or unlocked vs a smooth locked 30fps on regular PS4.

Now there are some games that really benefit like Battlefield 1, and more games benefit so far than run worse (way too many running worse though), but all that stuff I can play on my PC so far.  Infamous SS is the only game that runs better that's exclusive I think and the game was boring the first time, why would I replay it.

Still, Pro has a chance to redeem itself for me and my personal situation.  My regular PS4's remote play/wifi fucking SUCKS and I can't remote play games from like 30 feet away going from one bedroom to another.  This made me so frustrated since a lot of these rpgs I want to play in bed sometimes.  Supposedly Pro has better wifi and remote play.  I am hoping fingers crossed it boosts the signal enough that I can play in the next bedroom and enjoy Persona 5, FFXV and such in bed.  If it does this I will forgive everything else about it.  I will know in about an hour.

*edit* damnit, didn't fix remote play.  Looks like it's not the PS4, but my launch Vita has the worst wifi receiver ever and can't make it past 5-10 feet without skipping or dropping signal   Could probably fix it with one of those newer Vita 2.0s, but not worth buying a Vita entirely just for remote play :|

Also next "Pro" games I play are gonna be FFXV and Last Guardian.  Neither better run worse than normal PS4 or fuck Sony

/kind of in an angry mood since the election if that sounds bitchy.

[Bebpo]

Tried out the FFXV demo.  Game looks quite nice on Pro HQ mode, but the frame pacing is insanely bad.  Feels like a 20fps Ubisoft game like AC Unity even though technically it's 30fps.  LQ mode feels mostly fine and normal locked 30fps, but since it's the same as normal PS4 there's zero benefit to PS4 Pro right now.  If they can fix the frame pacing on the HQ mode and unlock the framerate to get 60fps most of the time on LQ mode the Pro upgrade will be substantial.  Right now it's near worthless :|

[Cerveza mas fina]

Chill beps its square enix they make one game every 10 years and you expect them to do good support? They dont know what they are doing

Western devs got this shit on lockdown, TR, BF, Titanfall, all mint on the Pro

[bork]

My Ps4 Pro after getting lost at UPS showed up today.  Doing the 90 minute system transfer.

To be honest, I'm pretty fucking pissed at Sony for this system. 

.....

That's fine, got no problem with it or spending $400 for a little stronger PS4.

 

*edit* damnit, didn't fix remote play.  Looks like it's not the PS4, but my launch Vita has the worst wifi receiver ever and can't make it past 5-10 feet without skipping or dropping signal   Could probably fix it with one of those newer Vita 2.0s, but not worth buying a Vita entirely just for remote play :|

Why not?  You had no problem just wasting $400 on a Pro.   

You can do remote play on PCs and (rooted?) Android devices, too.  Don't have anything else you can use?