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[etiolate]

http://docquery.fec.gov/cgi-bin/fecimg/?C00623538

FEC documents for the PAC, which was started in August, 2016.

To be fair, it's not like Assange has any experience in dealing with government documents, so I see how this would be confusing.

You asked if that could be true. It could not be true. I'm not really fighting for that claim.

Don't lend credence to an article you know is bullshit just to be an asshole to me.

[kingv]

kingv: We already knew Wikileaks had been in contact with Trump Jr, going back to the Goldstone thing. We know that because they said they contacted themselves. They also said back then that it'd be better to leak through Wikileaks. All we learned is that they had other, similar correspondence. And then the Atlantic article does a slight of hand by putting in the Russia operative claim on Wikileaks which has no proof or basis.

And this is all about Wiki contact Trump Jr about a PAC that spread the Iraq lies starting up a website for the Russia/Trump narrative.

Who hacked the Podesta/Hillary/DNC emails that WikiLeaks published?

Ecuador?

https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2016/12/the-public-evidence-behind-claims-russia-hacked-for-trump/

All we know is that security researchers linked the methods to other hacks by fancy bear and apt29 (Russians) and the files were edited on a Russia version of Microsoft word on a computer named for Felix Dzerzhinsky.... but it was probably someone in the US. And then somebody bought Facebook ads in rupees from Russian IPs and then the campaign met with a lot of Russians and promised to review sanctions if they got elected.

But, really it could have been anybody!

[benjipwns]

Mandark's reading of them screwing up the names makes more sense than a defunct PAC funded almost entirely by a billionaire who lived in the Beverly Hillbillies mansion and was supporting Carly Fiorinia's campaign before he died suddenly was revived to attack Trump as a Putin puppet and then didn't put any money in it.

The real scandal here is that Rob Glaser, the man behind RealPlayer, still walks free.

[curly]

Assange wanted Trump to get Australia to make him the US ambassador

[Nola]

kingv: We already knew Wikileaks had been in contact with Trump Jr, going back to the Goldstone thing. We know that because they said they contacted themselves. They also said back then that it'd be better to leak through Wikileaks. All we learned is that they had other, similar correspondence. And then the Atlantic article does a slight of hand by putting in the Russia operative claim on Wikileaks which has no proof or basis.

And this is all about Wiki contact Trump Jr about a PAC that spread the Iraq lies starting up a website for the Russia/Trump narrative.

Who hacked the Podesta/Hillary/DNC emails that WikiLeaks published?

Ecuador?

https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2016/12/the-public-evidence-behind-claims-russia-hacked-for-trump/

All we know is that security researchers linked the methods to other hacks by fancy bear and apt29 (Russians) and the files were edited on a Russia version of Microsoft word on a computer named for Felix Dzerzhinsky.... but it was probably someone in the US. And then somebody bought Facebook ads in rupees from Russian IPs and then the campaign met with a lot of Russians and promised to review sanctions if they got elected.

But, really it could have been anybody!

Don't forget in those correspondences they also bragged about their possession of said hacked emails. Also markers like identical misspellings and code lines in those hacks were the same from hacks that occurred in Germany that were also traced back to Russia from similar(in fact more overt) track covering errors. But again, probably all bullshit. Anyone heard any new news on the Seth Rich front? I hear the case is going to be broken wide open soon.

[thehunter116]

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every time I see this guy's "incredulous dog" face

You are like a second benji and I love it.

[thehunter116]

Double Combo. 

[agrajag]

Anyone heard any new news on the Seth Rich front? I hear the case is going to be broken wide open soon.

Good point. The real issue at hand is that Seth Rich's killer is still at large with her millions of rubles of stolen uranium money.

[thehunter116]

Triple combo. 

[Nola]

3rd way/Hill-bots/conservadems, etc will try to use the Russian narrative to ignore the progressive left’s concerns. I 100% believe this is true and will remain true.

That might hold true for incumbents that have built their reputation on that form of third way politics(and to be fair, in some areas of the country a modernized form of that sort of politics may still make sense) and remain scared to abandon it. And given trends they will likely win re-election. Outside of that I don't really see the evidence that liberals and Democrats at large are acting in that fashion. From far-left journals and news sources to progressive millennial media, to cable and network news, to more centrist corners, second to Russia the number one topic involving the party has been the fall of the Democratic party and what should be done to fix it. To the point of almost ad nauseam. Virginia also just showed that woman and minorities have been emboldened to take up the opportunity to run for office and if that continues to carry forward will in fact be a major re-structuring of the party itself.

[agrajag]

I knew Benji. I shitposted with Benji. Benji was a friend of mine, and I, sir, am no Benji.

[thehunter116]

https://twitter.com/alexkotch/status/930220624764473345

 

[Nola]

So new revelations of failed-to-mention correspondences with Wikileaks and a new Roy Moore allegation comes to light, meanwhile, in Republican alternative reality:

[Nola]

Also this is cute:



 

[deepest throat]

Also this is cute:

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protestants 

[thehunter116]

American ISIS starts with an E.

[benjipwns]

Sen. Ted Cruz on Monday withdrew his support from Alabama GOP Senate nominee Roy Moore, saying allegations of sexual misconduct should be looked at by prosecutors.

“As it stands, I can’t urge the people of Alabama to support a campaign in the face of these charges without serious, persuasive demonstration that the charges are not true,” the Texas Republican told reporters, according to a Texas Tribune reporter.

“Both last week and this week, there are serious charges of criminal conduct that if true, not only make him unfit to serve in the Senate but merit criminal prosecution,” he added.

[benjipwns]

Alabama Democrats have a message for out-of-state allies eager to help in the state's Senate race: Thanks, but no thanks.

"I tell them to stay home," said Giles Perkins, the former executive director of the Alabama Democratic Party. "This is an Alabama race, and we will decide it here."

Allegations of sexual impropriety against Republican Senate candidate Roy Moore may have created an opening for Democrats. But the scandal has also blown up Democrat Doug Jones' strategy of keeping the race under the radar in the overwhelmingly Republican state — and out of the national partisan fray.

"I’ve been nervous about this hoopla involving Roy Moore because of the danger of sucking out the issues — kitchen table issues — that Doug needs to focus on," said Bob Vance, a Democrat who came within striking distance of beating Moore in the 2012 race for chief justice of the Alabama Supreme Court.

David Mowery, an Alabama Democratic strategist, said Jones "needs to send a message of 'radical moderacy' — 'I’m a normal dude who used to be a U.S. attorney and lawyer, but I’m not a radical.'"

Quick, somebody send Elizabeth Warren and Hillary to Alabama to campaign for this guy! And 2020 frontrunner Terry McAuliffe! Can't blow this! And we need a $20 million ad buy attacking Moore for putting up the Ten Commandments!

Maybe we can get some of these Hollywood celebrities in the news to head down there and hold some fundraisers for big name donors from around the country.

[seagrams hotsauce]

Chomsky is 100% correct up there.

The latest episode of Intercepted opens with a really eloquent summation of why a lot of Russia dialogue is disingenuous. While Russian interference in our electoral system is awful and scary, this is something the US has been doing for a century. It's not acceptable to give ourselves some moral high-ground over the Russians on this issue, and it's really worrisome to see Democrats use the threat of Russian to downplay inequalities in our society. While this issue needs to be investigated, it can't be an excuse to ignore the factors that made Trump president, or casus belli for aggressive policies against Russia and her allies.

Not discounting the notion that the Russia shit is distraction people from other things Trump is doing, do you really agree with the notion that Trump's actions regarding Russia are being made in an effort to 'cool tensions' with them? That comes of as, at best, an incredibly naive, optimistic assessment that you could only reach if you basically ignore everything Trump has ever done or said.

[zomgee]

One thing that's funny about Hannity to me, is that even when I talk to conservatives/Republicans who will say they "like" him is that they'll still instantly agree with me about how he needs to shut the fuck up and let his guests talk, how he needs to stop repeating himself fifty times an hour, and how he's nowhere near as cool as he thinks he is.

his continued success fascinates and baffles me in so many ways

Some days I feel like you have a Sean Hannity 8 1/2 x 11 from Conservative Teen Beat in your locker.

[benjipwns]

You couldn't say Justin Amash.

Hell, even Rand with them curly locks?

No, you had to cross a line.

I hope you're happy with yourself.

Very happy.

[benjipwns]

Thank fucking god, someone is doing some actual reporting on the Trump White House out there:
https://www.thedailybeast.com/no-one-knows-what-omarosa-is-doing-in-the-white-houseeven-omarosa

There’s been some confusion about Omarosa’s precise role in this White House. She is formally the communications director for the Office of Public Liaison, the same office where Kal Penn of Harold & Kumar fame worked. But I wanted Omarosa to help me understand what keeps her busy during the workday and how one of the biggest reality stars of the early aughts—apart from her own boss—was reshaping the administration

...

Now a senior White House staffer banking the highest recorded salary allowable ($179,700 per year), Omarosa remains a mystery to many members of Washington’s political class and even her White House colleagues.

But on this particular Friday morning, Omarosa simply does not have the time to explain what, exactly, it is that she does. She can give me 15 minutes at most, she says, despite the hour-long appointment. It’s a very, very busy day, she tells me, and asks if I’d rather shadow her for the morning. “You can see me in action,” she says.

She tells me to hurriedly stuff my bag under her desk—a plain, shared space near the Oval Office that she uses apart from her office in the Eisenhower Executive Office Building. We’ve got to get a move-on, she says. There are menus to finalize and place settings to set. There’s a white floral number to change into, and three different shades of MAC foundation to blend.

Today isn’t just any ordinary day, it turns out. Yes, German Chancellor Angela Merkel is visiting, and the president has last-minute health care negotiations with Republican leadership. But much more crucially, it’s bridal luncheon day at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave., and Omarosa is getting married.

It’s tough to sneak in a question to Omarosa—about her job, her life, her goals, about where exactly we are heading at this precise moment—because we are always walking, quickly and seemingly aimlessly across the West Wing, and in and out of rooms at the EEOB. At some point we are looking for a certain Josh, though we don’t ever locate him, and I never find out why he’s needed. As we knock on the door to one office, she finally muffles an answer as to what we’re doing: “… the faith communities, does anyone need to be blessed…”

Many of her answers go this way, with sentences accomplishing the syntactical feat of never seeming to begin or end. Or they begin and end at the same time: “Everything,” she says when I ask about the contents of her job portfolio right now.

But never mind that, because Omarosa has a luncheon to host. She even brought a new dress for today’s event. She shows it to me as we stop next in her EEOB office, a light-drenched space a little larger than the average American living room. Adorning the walls and tables are three long gowns, clusters of makeup, an array of hair tools, and a few pieces of Louis Vuitton luggage. Today’s outfit—a white shift dress printed with red and pink and purple flowers—is draped across a chair.

Alas, that second interview would never happen. In a trend familiar to lovelorn folks nationwide, Omarosa ghosted me. Dozens of calls, emails, and texts over the course several months have gone unreturned.

After the abrupt end to our day in March, I called a Republican source in constant contact with the White House and asked what they thought Omarosa’s job entailed. “No clue,” the source said. I told the source about our whirlwind of a morning.

“Wait, Hope [Hicks] let you follow [Omarosa] around?” the source asked. No, I hadn’t spoken with Hope, who now serves formally as the White House communications director. “So Sean [Spicer] let you?” Ditto. “Christ,” the source said. “No one in the comms department knew a random reporter was walking around the West Wing. This is why people think we’re a shit show.”

Ultimately, in my quest to better understand what, exactly, Omarosa does each day, I learned little more than the fact that she was getting married.

Then there was her letter to the Congressional Black Caucus in June, in which she invited members to a meeting with President Trump, signing it, “The Honorable Omarosa Manigault.” As Politico reported, “Multiple CBC members said they were put off… saying she hasn’t earned that title nor has she helped raise the profile of CBC issues within the White House as promised.”

As the official The Bore reporter on Trump-Apprentice information, there's nothing in this story that surprises me at all. It's like the ultimate envisioning of exactly what she wanted from Trump a salary for nothing unless he wanted her to pick a fight with someone for his amusement.

The thing that most fascinates me about these stories about her over the last couple years is that none of them talk about how she killed Michael Clarke Duncan. La Toya knew:


So did Plenipotentiary Rodman. I assume Lil Jon did too.

[thehunter116]

Ok agra we need to talk.


Also send help.

[benjipwns]

oh my god

the blood splatter

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i feel slightly ashamed at being able to still see the actual map layout...and wondering if he was going to skip the first secret panel

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[benjipwns]

How do they get that many words out between LET FREEDOM RIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIING

I went looking for the original long intro you're referencing but like I can't find the damn thing on youtube. I did however find this dog having an appropriate reaction to it:



This is the song he uses now which me and steam friend had been making fun of for a while and then Hannity started using it and I almost drove off the road even though I was sitting at a desk in a building:

[benjipwns]

That also reminds me of the actual song he used to use the chorus from:


It's a song about marital domestic abuse where the woman sets the husband on fire.

[Kara]

American ISIS starts with an E.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/resources/idt-sh/raqqas_dirty_secret

[benjipwns]

“They didn't appropriate anything, nothing at all,” he says.

“Only three of them went rogue. Other IS fighters even chastised them.”

He says IS paid for what they took.

“They hoovered up the shop. I got overwhelmed by their numbers. Many asked me for prices, but I couldn't answer them because I was busy serving other people. So they left money for me on my desk without me asking.”

Despite the abuse they suffered, the lorry drivers agreed - when it came to money, IS settled its bills.

IS may have been homicidal psychopaths, but they're always correct with the money.”

Says Abu Fawzi with a smile.

[Trent Dole]

That also reminds me of the actual song he used to use the chorus from:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4VPpAZ9_qAw

It's a song about marital domestic abuse where the woman sets the husband on fire.

Clearly he's sending us a message, and that message is he should be set on fire. I don't disagree!

[VomKriege]

Chomsky was very optimistic about the Red Khmer casualties too at one point.

[etiolate]

Abu Basir al-Faransy, a young Frenchman, left before the going got really tough in Raqqa. He’s now in Idlib, where he says he wants to stay.

The fighting in Raqqa was intense, even back then, he says.

“We were front-line fighters, waging war almost constantly [against the Kurds], living a hard life. We didn't know Raqqa was about to be besieged.”

Disillusioned, weary of the constant fighting and fearing for his life, Abu Basir decided to leave for the safety of Idlib. He now lives in the city.

He was part of an almost exclusively French group within IS, and before he left some of his fellow fighters were given a new mission.

"There are some French brothers from our group who left for France to carry out attacks in what would be called a ‘day of reckoning.’”

[VomKriege]

American ISIS starts with an E.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/resources/idt-sh/raqqas_dirty_secret

Oh no, we didn't slaughter everyone to death!

I think it's not so much that they should have been exterminated or that giving quarter and free passage at the end of a siege are uncommon (arguably the norm, especially in the Levant, even during the crusades) but more so the lack of publicity that is underlined here. Maybe because it doesn't fit with the maximalist narrative that have been drummed up regarding the IS.

"There are some French brothers from our group who left for France to carry out attacks in what would be called a ‘day of reckoning.’”

Of course they did. Hopefully intelligence and police will foil the brunt of those efforts.

Plus some of the families (women, children, teens) will inevitably be repatriated.

[kingv]

kingv: We already knew Wikileaks had been in contact with Trump Jr, going back to the Goldstone thing. We know that because they said they contacted themselves. They also said back then that it'd be better to leak through Wikileaks. All we learned is that they had other, similar correspondence. And then the Atlantic article does a slight of hand by putting in the Russia operative claim on Wikileaks which has no proof or basis.

And this is all about Wiki contact Trump Jr about a PAC that spread the Iraq lies starting up a website for the Russia/Trump narrative.

Just to be clear. What is documented in those emails is already a crime.

Even if there is no Russia involvement whatsoever, coordinating with Wikileaks is a violation of Federal Election Law.

So at least we both agree that crimes were committed.

[FStop7]

Don Jr. strikes me as the weakling of that family.  The Fredo Corleone.

[Human Snorenado]

Don Jr. strikes me as the weakling of that family.  The Fredo Corleone.

It's a family of nothing but Fredos.

[Joe Molotov]

Don Jr. isn't even the Fredo of the family, he's like the Mary Corleone. Got the job because of his dad, and is so awful he may end up sinking the whole production.

[Kara]

“They didn't appropriate anything, nothing at all,” he says.

“Only three of them went rogue. Other IS fighters even chastised them.”

He says IS paid for what they took.

“They hoovered up the shop. I got overwhelmed by their numbers. Many asked me for prices, but I couldn't answer them because I was busy serving other people. So they left money for me on my desk without me asking.”

Despite the abuse they suffered, the lorry drivers agreed - when it came to money, IS settled its bills.

IS may have been homicidal psychopaths, but they're always correct with the money.”

Says Abu Fawzi with a smile.

We live in such a capitalist dystopia that "but [bad person] loves dogs" is now "at least Islamic State paid their bills."

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Funny that that wasn't contrasted with how they funded themselves when they weren't running away: expropriating Iraq's oil without compensation or their use of protection rackets, kidnappings, et cetera.

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I think it's not so much that they should have been exterminated or that giving quarter and free passage at the end of a siege are uncommon (arguably the norm, especially in the Levant, even during the crusades) but more so the lack of publicity that is underlined here. Maybe because it doesn't fit with the maximalist narrative that have been drummed up regarding the IS.

The purpose of the link was to undermine the notion that Islamic State is something wholly distinct from the U.S. (or odious populations within the U.S. if you want to absolve selectively) when it is a product of its foreign policy. "American ISIS" is a description akin to "American Taliban" in its silliness.

As for the mewling non sequitur you were replying to, no, I don't think people who engage in genocide should be permitted to skip away and escape prosecution. The war already had enough 20th century parallels.

[etiolate]

kingv: We already knew Wikileaks had been in contact with Trump Jr, going back to the Goldstone thing. We know that because they said they contacted themselves. They also said back then that it'd be better to leak through Wikileaks. All we learned is that they had other, similar correspondence. And then the Atlantic article does a slight of hand by putting in the Russia operative claim on Wikileaks which has no proof or basis.

And this is all about Wiki contact Trump Jr about a PAC that spread the Iraq lies starting up a website for the Russia/Trump narrative.

Just to be clear. What is documented in those emails is already a crime.

Even if there is no Russia involvement whatsoever, coordinating with Wikileaks is a violation of Federal Election Law.

So at least we both agree that crimes were committed.

what crime

[Brehvolution]

https://www.mediaite.com/online/sessions-to-gop-rep-it-would-take-a-factual-basis-to-appoint-special-counsel-to-probe-clinton/

“So I guess my main question is what’s it going to take if all of that, not to mention the dossier information, what’s it going to take to actually get a special counsel?” Jordan exclaimed.

Sessions responded, “It would take a factual basis that meets the standards of the appointment of a special counsel.”

Ethering his own party and all of fox news talking points in one sentence.

[Great Rumbler]

[Trent Dole]

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[kingv]

kingv: We already knew Wikileaks had been in contact with Trump Jr, going back to the Goldstone thing. We know that because they said they contacted themselves. They also said back then that it'd be better to leak through Wikileaks. All we learned is that they had other, similar correspondence. And then the Atlantic article does a slight of hand by putting in the Russia operative claim on Wikileaks which has no proof or basis.

And this is all about Wiki contact Trump Jr about a PAC that spread the Iraq lies starting up a website for the Russia/Trump narrative.

Just to be clear. What is documented in those emails is already a crime.

Even if there is no Russia involvement whatsoever, coordinating with Wikileaks is a violation of Federal Election Law.

So at least we both agree that crimes were committed.

what crime

Making any contribution or donation of money or other thing of value, or making any expenditure, independent expenditure, or disbursement in connection with any federal, state or local election in the United States;

https://www.fec.gov/updates/foreign-nationals/

Read all the footnotes and realize that this basically includes almost all activity by a foreign national that is not part of a business relationship with the campaign.

I know you will respond in “but he wasn’t part of the campaign”, except he was very clearly acting as part of the campaign in multiple instances. It doesn’t hold water.

It is a crime for Assange to coordinate with the campaign, and it was illegal for Jr. to facilitate it by having his dad follow up on the tweets or otherwise coordinate with Wikileaks.

[Skullfuckers Anonymous]

Turns out that Democrats are to blame for Roy Moore's pedophilia. Keep holding those L's liberals.

http://thehill.com/homenews/media/360346-limbaugh-moore-was-a-democrat-at-time-of-sexual-misconduct-allegations

Moore's twitter feed continues to be gold too.

https://twitter.com/MooreSenate/status/930535804799242240

https://twitter.com/MooreSenate/status/930545181312671744

[TakingBackSunday]

what a shmuck

[etiolate]

kingv: We already knew Wikileaks had been in contact with Trump Jr, going back to the Goldstone thing. We know that because they said they contacted themselves. They also said back then that it'd be better to leak through Wikileaks. All we learned is that they had other, similar correspondence. And then the Atlantic article does a slight of hand by putting in the Russia operative claim on Wikileaks which has no proof or basis.

And this is all about Wiki contact Trump Jr about a PAC that spread the Iraq lies starting up a website for the Russia/Trump narrative.

Just to be clear. What is documented in those emails is already a crime.

Even if there is no Russia involvement whatsoever, coordinating with Wikileaks is a violation of Federal Election Law.

So at least we both agree that crimes were committed.

what crime

Making any contribution or donation of money or other thing of value, or making any expenditure, independent expenditure, or disbursement in connection with any federal, state or local election in the United States;

https://www.fec.gov/updates/foreign-nationals/

Read all the footnotes and realize that this basically includes almost all activity by a foreign national that is not part of a business relationship with the campaign.

I know you will respond in “but he wasn’t part of the campaign”, except he was very clearly acting as part of the campaign in multiple instances. It doesn’t hold water.

It is a crime for Assange to coordinate with the campaign, and it was illegal for Jr. to facilitate it by having his dad follow up on the tweets or otherwise coordinate with Wikileaks.

There's nothing in that link relevant to the Wiki/Jr DMs. It is not a crime for Wiki to offer to publish the files. Wiki announced that at the time of the document release. Suddenly now you think its a crime? Because of a ridiculous Atlantic article? Purposefully leaked? To manipulate perception? Perhaps you are getting played? 

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EVEN MORE SERIES OF SENTENCES ENDING IN A QUESTION MARK?

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APPARENTLY LATEST WIKI RELEASE SHOWS HOW CIA FAKES EVIDENCE AND FRAMES THIRD PARTIES?

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[Brehvolution]

Turns out that Democrats are to blame for Roy Moore's pedophilia. Keep holding those L's liberals.

http://thehill.com/homenews/media/360346-limbaugh-moore-was-a-democrat-at-time-of-sexual-misconduct-allegations

[Great Rumbler]

More Moore scumbaggery:

Roy Moore challenged the scope of an Alabama law that protects rape victims while serving as the most senior judge on the state’s highest court, according to a review of records.

As chief justice of Alabama’s supreme court, Moore twice argued that the state’s “rape shield” law should not prevent alleged sex offenders from using certain evidence about their underage accusers’ personal lives to discredit them.

The cases were among 10 between 2013 and 2016 where Moore dissented from the court’s majority view and sided with alleged offenders who were appealing to the court as part of their efforts to overturn convictions or punishments for sexual crimes.

Among Moore’s 10 dissents were those that sided with appeals by David Pittman, who had pleaded guilty to the rape of a 12-year-old girl. Moore in September 2015 said that Pittman ought to have been allowed to present evidence to court indicating that the girl had been sexually active and had a sexually transmitted disease.

“I believe this evidence could be relevant to the complaining witness’s alleged motive in accusing Pittman and that it is not barred by … the rape-shield rule,” Moore wrote in his dissent.

The Alabama rape-shield law includes an exception that says evidence against the accuser can be used if “excluding it would violate the defendant’s constitutional rights”. Moore argued in his dissent that Pittman was being denied his right to be confronted by any witnesses testifying against him.

The rape-shield law also arose in the case of Sherman Tate, a school mentor who was convicted of coercing two 15-year-old female students to touch him sexually. Moore argued in June 2014 that attorneys for Tate should have been allowed to tell jurors that he believed the girls were bisexual and in a relationship together.

Moore said evidence of a relationship between the teenage girls “could be relevant to the victims’ alleged bias against Tate or their collusion” and that this should not be barred by the state’s rape-shield rules.

So, not only is he a big-time pedo, but he also defended other pedos while serving as judge.

[etiolate]

[Valhelm]

Chomsky was very optimistic about the Red Khmer casualties too at one point.

As was the US government!

[Mandark]

https://twitter.com/chrisgeidner/status/930549726814130178


As someone else pointed out, there are two Obamas on the chart, and a line connecting them.

Finally, Obama linked to Obama.

[Skullfuckers Anonymous]

As someone else pointed out, there are two Obamas on the chart, and a line connecting them.

Finally, Obama linked to Obama.

But where's Seth Rich?

[zomgee]

oh my god

the blood splatter

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i feel slightly ashamed at being able to still see the actual map layout...and wondering if he was going to skip the first secret panel

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The skybox lol

[zomgee]

https://twitter.com/chrisgeidner/status/930549726814130178


As someone else pointed out, there are two Obamas on the chart, and a line connecting them.

Finally, Obama linked to Obama.

Jesus Comey is on there TWICE! That guy is bad news.

So's Susan Rice! Sad!

And apparently Mueller sent two emails through Hilary's secret public secret email secret server.

One Obama bubble leads right to... another Obama bubble! Doublebama! What if Obama met with Obama on the Tarmac with two James Comeys?

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https://twitter.com/GScottShand/status/930555026275291138

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[zomgee]

FOX NEWS ALERT 

https://twitter.com/MattGertz/status/930545785435054082

[kingv]

kingv: We already knew Wikileaks had been in contact with Trump Jr, going back to the Goldstone thing. We know that because they said they contacted themselves. They also said back then that it'd be better to leak through Wikileaks. All we learned is that they had other, similar correspondence. And then the Atlantic article does a slight of hand by putting in the Russia operative claim on Wikileaks which has no proof or basis.

And this is all about Wiki contact Trump Jr about a PAC that spread the Iraq lies starting up a website for the Russia/Trump narrative.

Just to be clear. What is documented in those emails is already a crime.

Even if there is no Russia involvement whatsoever, coordinating with Wikileaks is a violation of Federal Election Law.

So at least we both agree that crimes were committed.

what crime

Making any contribution or donation of money or other thing of value, or making any expenditure, independent expenditure, or disbursement in connection with any federal, state or local election in the United States;

https://www.fec.gov/updates/foreign-nationals/

Read all the footnotes and realize that this basically includes almost all activity by a foreign national that is not part of a business relationship with the campaign.

I know you will respond in “but he wasn’t part of the campaign”, except he was very clearly acting as part of the campaign in multiple instances. It doesn’t hold water.

It is a crime for Assange to coordinate with the campaign, and it was illegal for Jr. to facilitate it by having his dad follow up on the tweets or otherwise coordinate with Wikileaks.

There's nothing in that link relevant to the Wiki/Jr DMs. It is not a crime for Wiki to offer to publish the files. Wiki announced that at the time of the document release. Suddenly now you think its a crime? Because of a ridiculous Atlantic article? Purposefully leaked? To manipulate perception? Perhaps you are getting played? 

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EVEN MORE SERIES OF SENTENCES ENDING IN A QUESTION MARK?

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APPARENTLY LATEST WIKI RELEASE SHOWS HOW CIA FAKES EVIDENCE AND FRAMES THIRD PARTIES?

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It is absolutely a crime By Julian Assange to offer to publish the files for the Donald Trump campaign. You didn’t read the fec documents closely enough.

Similarly, if it is revealed that Hillary Clinton emails were hacked, the Donald Trump campaign knew about it (and roger stone clearly did so it’s likely others did as well) and that Wikileaks would later release it (or that they would be released) he would have committed misprision of a felony on multiple occasions by lying about it (as well as basically everyone else that was a part of the campaign) which would make the whole thing a conspiracy to commit a crime.

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Dear me.

https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/

On March 16, 2016 WikiLeaks launched a searchable archive for over 30 thousand emails & email attachments sent to and from Hillary Clinton's private email server while she was Secretary of State. The 50,547 pages of documents span from 30 June 2010 to 12 August 2014. 7,570 of the documents were sent by Hillary Clinton. The emails were made available in the form of thousands of PDFs by the US State Department as a result of a Freedom of Information Act request. The final PDFs were made available on March 3, 2017.

Now ask yourself why you think a FOIA request is a hack and what/who made you think that.

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The Podesta and dnc emails... were those also FOIA requests? Or was there a crime committed?

Please stop being/pretending to be dumb.

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https://twitter.com/chrisgeidner/status/930549726814130178


As someone else pointed out, there are two Obamas on the chart, and a line connecting them.

Finally, Obama linked to Obama.

Being one that loves a good ERD or process diagram this makes me want to punch someone in the throat.

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The Podesta and dnc emails... were those also FOIA requests? Or was there a crime committed?

Please stop being/pretending to be dumb.

DNC was likely an inside leak, not a hack. Podesta it seems most likely was someone getting into their email system, due to his poor password security. It could be an office worker or any curious hacker on the net.

When you're uninformed, the informed appears dumb to you.  Get better info.

PS: You didn't ask yourself that question.

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https://www.axios.com/cruz-and-paul-are-the-only-senators-who-still-endorse-roy-moore-2509199957.html

This story originally stated that Sens. Ted Cruz and Rand Paul were the only senators who had not withdrawn their endorsements of Roy Moore's candidacy in light of the sexual assault allegations against him. Cruz has since pulled his endorsement, per his office, leaving Paul as the sole senator endorsing Moore.

Sen. John Cornyn withdrew his endorsement Monday, and Sens. Mike Lee and Steve Daines did so Friday. Go deeper: How Republicans have responded to the accusations against Moore.

benji pls