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[Nintex]

http://twitter.com/NewYorkStateAG/status/1017849241807532032

This should be front-page news.

 


https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1018069319702458368

It is all happening indeed Trump. Whatever the fuck all is 

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I HAVEN'T DONE ANYTHING YET BUT EVERYTHING IS BETTER!

[close]

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1018070907741523968

 

*hires Flynn, Roger and Manafort*
"THANKS OBAMA!" 

[VomKriege]

Tweet deleted ? The lawyers got their way on that one maybe...

When I said the latest Giuliani tweet was a better defense, it doesn't meant they can or could have make it worked. The Trump campaign have been enterily too spastic and incompetent with dozens of its members having had dozens of separate suspect meetings with different Russians (which does raise some questions, as Russian intelligence is generally known to be extremely careful when out recruiting and contacting influencers. But maybe here it does play into generating chaos and confusion ? Or perhaps it was open season for "Russian deep state" members and some tried their hand at semi-sanctioned lobbying, like that lawyer that met Don Jr. via the shitty impresario of a Russian pop star whom father is an oligarch...).

And Trump is incapable to keep to a script on those issues anyway.

[VomKriege]

Or Russia knew they would get more popular with Republicans for conducting sabotage on US soil out of Pavlovian partisanship 

[Mandark]

At the very least, several countries moved before and after the election to find ways to get influence in the Trump campaign/administration with a more blatant disregard for the rules than usual.

I hope Mueller is allowed to finish his job and gets to the bottom of it. Regardless of what he finds or what consequences Trump would actually face, at this point I just want to read the whole story of how everything went down.

[Nintex]

Tweet deleted ? The lawyers got their way on that one maybe...

No, he just changed 'Trump administrations' to 'administration'

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1018074723140427776

And threw out two more

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1018093807060045824

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1018096402520518656

[VomKriege]

306 ! 306 ! 306 !

I linked some weeks ago a podcast about esoteric beliefs in politics and Trump is known to be a fervent reader of a book about positive thinking (Benji will surely find the correct name) which was also a favourite of Reagan and a source for the prosperity gospel. It's nothing too uncommon but it perhaps explain Trump ramblings : he's literally rejecting our reality and substituting his own faith and beliefs to turn them into self fulfilling prophecies. All politicians do to an extent but not in such an aggressive way.

To be cheeky, Trump probably believes his election is a triumph of the will.

[Nintex]

https://twitter.com/SenSanders/status/1017887287416410112
Because it is their JOB to put food on the table Bernie and if they struggle to do that they're probably not very good at their jobs. 

[BlueTsunami]

https://twitter.com/TPMLiveWire/status/1017544030899535873

What a clown show.

I was hoping we'd see

Peter Strzok: Anti-Dentite?

On Fox News

[Kara]

Because it is their JOB to put food on the table Bernie and if they struggle to do that they're probably not very good at their jobs. 

Nah.

[kingv]

https://twitter.com/SenSanders/status/1017887287416410112
Because it is their JOB to put food on the table Bernie and if they struggle to do that they're probably not very good at their jobs. 

McDonald’s where I am pays a couple of $’s over minimum wage.

That said, I am guessing the reason is that the franchisees threw a shit fit and that’s who actually set the wages.

[kingv]

http://twitter.com/NewYorkStateAG/status/1017849241807532032

This should be front-page news.

 


https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1018069319702458368

It is all happening indeed Trump. Whatever the fuck all is 

spoiler (click to show/hide)

I HAVEN'T DONE ANYTHING YET BUT EVERYTHING IS BETTER!

[close]

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1018070907741523968

 

*hires Flynn, Roger and Manafort*
"THANKS OBAMA!" 

Dow hitting 25K seems like an admission that it hasn’t went up at all in 2018. It was 25K in January too.

[kingv]

Tweet deleted ? The lawyers got their way on that one maybe...

When I said the latest Giuliani tweet was a better defense, it doesn't meant they can or could have make it worked. The Trump campaign have been enterily too spastic and incompetent with dozens of its members having had dozens of separate suspect meetings with different Russians (which does raise some questions, as Russian intelligence is generally known to be extremely careful when out recruiting and contacting influencers. But maybe here it does play into generating chaos and confusion ? Or perhaps it was open season for "Russian deep state" members and some tried their hand at semi-sanctioned lobbying, like that lawyer that met Don Jr. via the shitty impresario of a Russian pop star whom father is an oligarch...).

And Trump is incapable to keep to a script on those issues anyway.

I think Mueller’s script is that he is trying to provoke reactions like Giuliani’s. By indicting I’m the order he is indicting. He will hit the American indictments last, and Giuliani is already on record saying the Russian ones were good news for all Americans, so it’s harder to backtrack and say it is all fake news.

Didn’t stoop Glenn Greenwald for saying the whole indictment is a lie, however. That dude is a joke now.

[Dickie Dee]

At the very least, several countries moved before and after the election to find ways to get influence in the Trump campaign/administration with a more blatant disregard for the rules than usual.

I don't know why it's not part of our public discourse that he publicly asked for foreign intervention during the campaign. That's even before this came out with the indictments:

Russian Hack Followed Trump's 'Are You Listening' Speech

Clinton's office was targeted hours after candidate Trump mentioned it

WASHINGTON (AP) — Was Russia listening, after all?

In a July 27, 2016, speech, then-candidate Donald Trump called on Russian hackers to find emails from Hillary Clinton, his Democratic opponent in the U.S. presidential campaign.

"Russia, if you're listening," Trump said, "I hope you're able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing."

Hours later, the Main Intelligence Directorate in Moscow appeared to heed the call — targeting Clinton's personal office and hitting more than 70 other Clinton campaign accounts. That's according to a grand jury indictment Friday charging 12 Russian military intelligence officers with hacking into the Clinton campaign and the Democratic Party as part of a sweeping conspiracy by the Kremlin to meddle in the 2016 U.S. election.

The indictment says July 27 was the first time Clinton's personal office was targeted.

The attempt to penetrate Clinton's campaign began March 10, 2016, and hit a significant success on March 19 when the Russian intelligence officers busted open the email account of John Podesta, Clinton's campaign chairman, an AP investigation last year found.

They "phished" intensively and repetitively. Throughout at least March and April there were repeated efforts to break into about 120 Democratic National Committee, Clinton and left-leaning activists' accounts across the country.

Then they brought Clinton's personal office into their scope, the indictment says — the very evening Trump appeared to beckon Russians to do just that.

[agrajag]

Donald Trump ain't slick

[Phoenix Dark]

Tweet deleted ? The lawyers got their way on that one maybe...

When I said the latest Giuliani tweet was a better defense, it doesn't meant they can or could have make it worked. The Trump campaign have been enterily too spastic and incompetent with dozens of its members having had dozens of separate suspect meetings with different Russians (which does raise some questions, as Russian intelligence is generally known to be extremely careful when out recruiting and contacting influencers. But maybe here it does play into generating chaos and confusion ? Or perhaps it was open season for "Russian deep state" members and some tried their hand at semi-sanctioned lobbying, like that lawyer that met Don Jr. via the shitty impresario of a Russian pop star whom father is an oligarch...).

And Trump is incapable to keep to a script on those issues anyway.

I think Mueller’s script is that he is trying to provoke reactions like Giuliani’s. By indicting I’m the order he is indicting. He will hit the American indictments last, and Giuliani is already on record saying the Russian ones were good news for all Americans, so it’s harder to backtrack and say it is all fake news.

Didn’t stoop Glenn Greenwald for saying the whole indictment is a lie, however. That dude is a joke now.

I'd imagine Mueller knows that the bigger indictments will result in Trump ending this thing. For instance, I don't think it's ridiculous to suggest that Kushner and Don Jr will be indicted; Don Jr knowingly set up a meeting with a Russian who promised dirt on Hillary, Kushner is knee deep in all types of shit, etc. Such indictments would result in Trump attempting to end all of this; hell, he might even try to have Mueller arrested.

[Nintex]

Tweet deleted ? The lawyers got their way on that one maybe...

When I said the latest Giuliani tweet was a better defense, it doesn't meant they can or could have make it worked. The Trump campaign have been enterily too spastic and incompetent with dozens of its members having had dozens of separate suspect meetings with different Russians (which does raise some questions, as Russian intelligence is generally known to be extremely careful when out recruiting and contacting influencers. But maybe here it does play into generating chaos and confusion ? Or perhaps it was open season for "Russian deep state" members and some tried their hand at semi-sanctioned lobbying, like that lawyer that met Don Jr. via the shitty impresario of a Russian pop star whom father is an oligarch...).

And Trump is incapable to keep to a script on those issues anyway.

I think Mueller’s script is that he is trying to provoke reactions like Giuliani’s. By indicting I’m the order he is indicting. He will hit the American indictments last, and Giuliani is already on record saying the Russian ones were good news for all Americans, so it’s harder to backtrack and say it is all fake news.

Didn’t stoop Glenn Greenwald for saying the whole indictment is a lie, however. That dude is a joke now.

I'm usually all up for the 4D chess theories but I can't see Mueller deciding on the order of things to trap Rudy Giuliani.

[VomKriege]

Rosenstein must have some awkward conversations all the time with Trump and Sessions.

I don't know why it's not part of our public discourse that he publicly asked for foreign intervention during the campaign. That's even before this came out with the indictments:

I mean it was. The clip has been played thousands of times on media. His base don't care and pretend it did not happen.

[benjipwns]

Donald Trump ain't slick

considering how much hand sanitizer he's purported to use...

[Great Rumbler]

Dow hitting 25K seems like an admission that it hasn’t went up at all in 2018. It was 25K in January too.

Dow was at 26.6K in late January.

[benjipwns]

Dow hitting 25K seems like an admission that it hasn’t went up at all in 2018. It was 25K in January too.

Dow was at 26.6K in late January.

lol i had 28.8K like twenty years ago, upgrade to V.90 already wall street

[kingv]

Tweet deleted ? The lawyers got their way on that one maybe...

When I said the latest Giuliani tweet was a better defense, it doesn't meant they can or could have make it worked. The Trump campaign have been enterily too spastic and incompetent with dozens of its members having had dozens of separate suspect meetings with different Russians (which does raise some questions, as Russian intelligence is generally known to be extremely careful when out recruiting and contacting influencers. But maybe here it does play into generating chaos and confusion ? Or perhaps it was open season for "Russian deep state" members and some tried their hand at semi-sanctioned lobbying, like that lawyer that met Don Jr. via the shitty impresario of a Russian pop star whom father is an oligarch...).

And Trump is incapable to keep to a script on those issues anyway.

I think Mueller’s script is that he is trying to provoke reactions like Giuliani’s. By indicting I’m the order he is indicting. He will hit the American indictments last, and Giuliani is already on record saying the Russian ones were good news for all Americans, so it’s harder to backtrack and say it is all fake news.

Didn’t stoop Glenn Greenwald for saying the whole indictment is a lie, however. That dude is a joke now.

I'm usually all up for the 4D chess theories but I can't see Mueller deciding on the order of things to trap Rudy Giuliani.

I was reading an article last night from a former federal prosecutor stating that it looks like he is following standard federal prosecutor procedure. Basically when they are rolling up a high profile conspiracy case they indict from the bottom up, because the biggest indictments will release a shit storm in the papers, and legal motions so it helps to have certain pieces of the case out there basically unchallenged first.

Mueller knows that it’s very difficult for a public figure to come out and defend Russian intelligence services hacking the us without looking guilty, and also know that none of those people will challenge any of this in court because they will never come to the US.

I wonder what those meetings with Rosenstein and Trump are like. Trump probably just crosses his arms and sticks his tongue out at him the whole time.

[agrajag]

I wonder what those meetings with Rosenstein and Trump are like. Trump probably just crosses his arms and sticks his tongue out at him the whole time.

[Great Rumbler]

There's also the added wrinkle in this case of the guy at the top of the chain having the ability [at the very least indirectly] to shut down the investigation. Mueller grabbing a lot of people at the bottom first and leaving the bigger fish for later gives him a lot more time to do his investigation relatively unimpeded, allows him to squeeze the people at the bottom for information, and makes it harder politically for Trump to step in without facing blowback.

[VomKriege]

I mean I don't know but I imagine Rosenstein is saying he's doing damage control to Trump, and he might be doing that behind the scebes (We know he's not wholesale obstructing the investigation and that he seems to act as intended for oversight but maybe he's reining it in a bit) ? It's hard to imagine Trump would have the patience for such subtle, marginal gains approach so maybe he's just pouting all the way through and bidding his time to fire all of those traitors.

[warcock]

Fuck his taxes, I want this fucker's golf score sheets revealed. Proof that you suck at pretty much your largest daily time sink. 

[benjipwns]

There's also the added wrinkle in this case of the guy at the top of the chain having the ability [at the very least indirectly] to shut down the investigation. Mueller grabbing a lot of people at the bottom first and leaving the bigger fish for later gives him a lot more time to do his investigation relatively unimpeded, allows him to squeeze the people at the bottom for information, and makes it harder politically for Trump to step in without facing blowback.

I think this presumes too much happened at the top of the campaign, and they still have positions of relevance, to where it's people Trump will finally take the step of shutting down Mueller for. If Mueller doesn't report before November 2018, there's nothing to be gained from getting rid of him. It's hard to imagine he continues investigating into 2020, which really is your only real concern, especially if you don't really give a shit about half the GOP or more anyway. The only other move would be to protect someone who isn't Trump.

Who's even left that he'd do that for? Don Jr. Jared and....? Barron maybe?

[benjipwns]

I was reading an article last night from a former federal prosecutor stating that it looks like he is following standard federal prosecutor procedure. Basically when they are rolling up a high profile conspiracy case they indict from the bottom up, because the biggest indictments will release a shit storm in the papers, and legal motions so it helps to have certain pieces of the case out there basically unchallenged first.

Two of his first indictments were Manafort and Flynn.

The people he's been indicting recently are all people who will never be arrested, let alone testify or anything else.

[benjipwns]

find some guy ready to fall on his sword for the President (isn't that what they did with O.North ?).

Oliver North actually committed the crimes personally, even the accounts that suggest Reagan or at least the White House knew details suspect they never knew, or maybe more importantly wanted to know, any specifics of North's operation. (When the CIA learned who North was working with had a literal burn notice on them, they nearly killed the whole setup by themselves.) Eventually the at-the-time Secretary of Defense, National Security Advisor, Assistant Secretary of State and two CIA chiefs were all indicted and pardoned by H.W. Bush.

North was never fully convicted and jailed, it was thrown out because of technicalities regarding the Fifth Amendment and testimony he had made to Congress being used in a criminal trial, then the Independent Counsel bothered not to try anyone again since Bush apparently made it well known he was going to put the kibosh on things once he replaced Reagan.

[Phoenix Dark]

Nevermind guys, case closed. Diamond and Silk have blown it wide open.

BOMBSHELL: Forensic Analysis Shows Clinton Emails Funneled to ‘Foreign Entity’
https://diamondandsilk.americandailynews.org/2018/07/13/bombshell-forensic-analysis-shows-clinton-emails-funneled-to-foreign-entity/

[Nola]

There's also the added wrinkle in this case of the guy at the top of the chain having the ability [at the very least indirectly] to shut down the investigation. Mueller grabbing a lot of people at the bottom first and leaving the bigger fish for later gives him a lot more time to do his investigation relatively unimpeded, allows him to squeeze the people at the bottom for information, and makes it harder politically for Trump to step in without facing blowback.

I think this presumes too much happened at the top of the campaign, and they still have positions of relevance, to where it's people Trump will finally take the step of shutting down Mueller for. If Mueller doesn't report before November 2018, there's nothing to be gained from getting rid of him. It's hard to imagine he continues investigating into 2020, which really is your only real concern, especially if you don't really give a shit about half the GOP or more anyway. The only other move would be to protect someone who isn't Trump.

Who's even left that he'd do that for? Don Jr. Jared and....? Barron maybe?

Don Jr isn’t going to stop being his son and it’s unlikely Kushner stops being his son in law. And at this point it’s also pretty obvious Trump has knowledge of the June meeting and likely quite a lot more. Though you also have the lesser known players that are still in his orbit that this investigation could realistically touch, people like Brad Parscale, his new campaign lead, or Tom Barrack, a money man and someone that headed his questionable inauguration committee that Mueller has and seemingly is continuing to look at for the highly questionable activity.

For one thing though, coming through in November supposes that Mueller even has the capacity to finish this up but would choose not to. Not sure why we should think that? Seems like there are a lot of paths they have just started clearing out. Secondly, the only way Trump is removed will be through impeachment, and if that is a recommendation by the counsel for either obstruction and/or conspiracy(if they even make recommendations at all), you are going to need a willing congress. Which by all accounts you get after 2018. You also likely get a Congress more willing to pass legislation to put protections around Mueller or guarantee his work can continue in another capacity. So honestly, in my mind, you are probably much better off holding off on the major conspiracy stuff from a case perspective til after November. Though does seem likely we get some of the obstruction stuff.


....then again Marcy Wheeler has been hinting really hard that some sort of shoe is going to drop soon that will make news. Not sure if it will come from Mueller’s team though.

[benjipwns]

Regarding November, I was thinking that at this point in the year, unless Mueller is about to report something earthshaking up to Trump personally, Trump firing him would be the worse action to do electorally. After election day in November (so very early in November actually), the personal dynamics change re:Trump himself. He'd like these GOPers he's supporting to win, but ultimately he only slightly gives more of a shit about them than the other half of the GOP.

2020 on the other hand is about himself. Firing Mueller in December 2018 is a very different thing from firing him in December 2019 or any time in 2020.

[Nola]

Regarding November, I was thinking that at this point in the year, unless Mueller is about to report something earthshaking up to Trump personally, Trump firing him would be the worse action to do electorally. After November, the personal dynamics change re:Trump himself. He'd like these GOPers he's supporting to win, but ultimately he only slightly gives more of a shit about them than the other half of the GOP.

2020 on the other hand is about himself.

You’re right, I have a tendency to read fast when there’s a lot of new replies and it’s clear you were talking about Mueller being fired, not Mueller wrapping up. My bad.

You are right though.

[benjipwns]

Arguably the most ideal time to do it at any possible point in the timeline is when the lame duck Congress "recesses" at the end of this year. Even if the incoming Congress had two GOP supermajorities somehow.

[benjipwns]

I should probably investigate whether Trump (or via Rosenstein) can impose an even partly binding deadline. That was one of the problems Congress had with the IC statute. I have to imagine if you can fire him you can impose a deadline for a report or something.

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Then you fire him for not meeting standards (or even better the deadlines), having no case, wasting taxpayer money, blah blah blah.

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[kingv]

I was reading an article last night from a former federal prosecutor stating that it looks like he is following standard federal prosecutor procedure. Basically when they are rolling up a high profile conspiracy case they indict from the bottom up, because the biggest indictments will release a shit storm in the papers, and legal motions so it helps to have certain pieces of the case out there basically unchallenged first.

Two of his first indictments were Manafort and Flynn.

The people he's been indicting recently are all people who will never be arrested, let alone testify or anything else.

Yes, but those indictments were very carefully avoiding saying anything about Russian collusion. It’s possible that they PURPOSEFULLY avoided charging either with a conspiracy to hack or influence the election, either because they wanted to hold those charges over their heads to influence them to cut a deal, they didn’t have a strong enough case at the time, or they didn’t want to tip their hand.

Clearly this worked on Flynn and based on what we have seen, I think that whatever is part of his proffer is not yet out there OR he was the one that gave a lot of these details about GRU intelligence operations, which is a clear sign of being part of the conspiracy.

Based on the indictment, the Russians were clearly reacting to what Trump was saying on the campaign trail. A sinister reading of this could be that this was pre-arranged at the trump tower meeting.

That trump tower meeting is still the biggest sign of the conspiracy, and it’s a bit suspect that it happened a few a month or two after the indictment says they first accessed DNC computers but before the emails were released publically.

[benjipwns]

I think you're reading way too much into the Flynn plea bargain. He has a whole bunch of stuff unrelated to Russia or Trump that he potentially could face charges for.

His plea is still one of the most baffling things in this, especially if he was central to any kind of conspiracy. Doubly so if his statement that there were no side-deals isn't just another stupid lie.

It almost makes you wonder if he's been told that a husband and wife cannot be charged for the same crime.

[benjipwns]

The sad part is Trump is depressingly boringly conservative in lots of his personal life. Kinda like W. was. Doesn't drink, claims to have never smoked a cigarette, is a germaphobe, actually liked the whole pageantry affair not just for the women, isn't even inventively racist, has like a strange private religiousness based around personal mentoring and meetings he always tried to keep hidden until he started running for the GOP, etc.

Even the pussy tape sounded to me like he was desperately trying to act cool with a young Bush.

You could probably convince me Pence does infinitely more blow off trans-dicks than Trump has even had sent to him on twitter.

[Mandark]

I don't know why it's not part of our public discourse that he publicly asked for foreign intervention during the campaign. That's even before this came out with the indictments:

Equally bizarre how we've largely glossed over the email exchange about the Trump Tower meeting.

You have someone explicitly telling them that the Russian government is trying to help their campaign and an enthusiastic response from Don Jr. (for a meeting they did follow through on) and it didn't seem to move the needle at all.

[Kara]

You could probably convince me Pence does infinitely more blow off [redacted] than Trump has even had sent to him on twitter.

There's a conspiracy theory that Mike Piss is in a relationship with someone in his orbit who (by his own admission) wasn't intimate with his wife for the first few years of their marriage. (I don't remember his name and I'm not looking it up because Mike Piss deserves the bare minimum of my finite time on Earth until he's tried by a people's tribunal.) Like a lot of #resistance stuff it stinks of weaponized homophobia by people who didn't think people who weren't straight were people 10-15 years ago.

[Kara]

DP

[benjipwns]

DP

ARE YOU CONTRIBUTING TO MY DELINQUENCY ON PURPOSE?

[Kara]

Like a lot of #resistance stuff it stinks of weaponized homophobia

uh, what?

You've never seen a "Trump and Putin are gay for each other" meme?

[Mandark]

Resistance Win! This Artist Was Going To Draw Trump And Putin Kissing, But Was Worried That Seemed Homophobic, So He Had Them Kiss While Thinking About Pamela Anderson

[Mandark]

There's a conspiracy theory that Mike Piss is in a relationship with someone in his orbit who (by his own admission) wasn't intimate with his wife for the first few years of their marriage. (I don't remember his name and I'm not looking it up because Mike Piss deserves the bare minimum of my finite time on Earth until he's tried by a people's tribunal.) Like a lot of #resistance stuff it stinks of weaponized homophobia by people who didn't think people who weren't straight were people 10-15 years ago.

I'm not as principled about spending my time on Pence. 5-10 minutes of Googling didn't turn anything up so it doesn't seem to have much traction at this point.

Considering some of the search term combinations I used, very glad I thought to open an incognito window.

[Rufus]

I'd hardly call that "weaponized homophobia". It's just ridicule.

there's nothing fun about this thread, there was never anything fun about this thread, the premise is now stale and has devolved into never-ending harassment. Some of you might find this ironic because of the :beak stuff but there is such a thing as "being better" than someone else. Just let the dude save face and lock the thread.

I demand consistency, human.

[Nintex]

I don't know why it's not part of our public discourse that he publicly asked for foreign intervention during the campaign. That's even before this came out with the indictments:

Equally bizarre how we've largely glossed over the email exchange about the Trump Tower meeting.

You have someone explicitly telling them that the Russian government is trying to help their campaign and an enthusiastic response from Don Jr. (for a meeting they did follow through on) and it didn't seem to move the needle at all.

Because it shows that the higher echelon of the campaign did not know what the Russians were up to.

It basically confirms the line that they were 'unwitting agents' or 'useful idiots' if you will. Not that they knowingly committed treason or were aware of a grander scheme.
It's about as bizarre as Kushner and Flynn trying to set-up a communication line with the Russians after the election. And the Russians weren't interested and told them it was probably illegal.

Not to mention the episode where the CIA/NSA tried to recover a cyber weapon from a Russian spy in Berlin and the Russian broker was instead trying to sell them dirt on Trump.

Also the story on Mike Flynn is that he was honeypotted by Russian intelligence. Based on the infamous RT dinner photo where he's sitting next to an unknown Russian lady.

[Mandark]

Because it shows that the higher echelon of the campaign did not know what the Russians were up to.

You realize those emails were to set up a meeting, right? Then they had the meeting?

Maybe if the Russians were operating out of a secret forest hideout with "rape trees" that would change things for you.

[Kara]

I'm not as principled about spending my time on Pence. 5-10 minutes of Googling didn't turn anything up so it doesn't seem to have much traction at this point.

Considering some of the search term combinations I used, very glad I thought to open an incognito window.

Mandark, nothing advocated or proposed in the social media waters I float in ever gets any traction. Know your narrator!

[Nintex]

Here's Flynn sitting next to his alleged 'honeypot'. The woman who happens to be the editor in chief for RT.


Which would explain his frequent appearances on the channel



Anyhow someone has decided to 'follow the money'
https://twitter.com/resisterhood/status/1018221264077541378

Interesting thread.

[benjipwns]

Here's Flynn sitting next to his alleged 'honeypot'. The woman who happens to be the editor in chief for RT.

That's also the back of Jill Stein's head!!!!

[Phoenix Dark]

You could probably convince me Pence does infinitely more blow off [redacted] than Trump has even had sent to him on twitter.

Like a lot of #resistance stuff it stinks of weaponized homophobia by people who didn't think people who weren't straight were people 10-15 years ago.

Time is a flat circle.

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http://themillenniumreport.com/2017/03/why-did-a-gay-male-prostitute-really-visit-the-w-bush-white-house-over-200-times/

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[benjipwns]

Anyhow someone has decided to 'follow the money'

Interesting thread.

@DaveGralnik
 1h1 hour ago

Replying to @resisterhood
The sad/scary part will be how to deal with proven election fraud?  Can't just wind everything back to undo the appointments and other damage.

but is it, Dave?

[VomKriege]

Here's Flynn sitting next to his alleged 'honeypot'. The woman who happens to be the editor in chief for RT.

That's also the back of Jill Stein's head!!!!

Jill Stein would make a decent GILF honey pot.

[Nintex]

There's also Cambridge Analytica. Now known to have been running a con.
However they managed to get results with 'data' which was their 'secret sauce' that fed the Trump campaign's Facebook operation.

https://twitter.com/onetruebritt/status/1018258769078190080


People assume that the 'Organization' mentioned in Muellers indictment is Wikileaks but what if it was Cambridge Analytica instead? 
Feeding the Trump campaign with the voter data the Russians hacked from the DNC. Targeting Obama voters via Facebook who were obviously identified by the DNC and flip them to the other side.

[Mandark]

Jeff Gannon, that's a name I've not heard in a long time...

[benjipwns]

Jill Stein would make a decent GILF honey pot.

mods help

[Kara]

Time is a flat circle.
(Image removed from quote.)

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http://themillenniumreport.com/2017/03/why-did-a-gay-male-prostitute-really-visit-the-w-bush-white-house-over-200-times/

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The only certainties in life are death, taxes, white weenie, and deprecatory accusations that the president is gay.

[kingv]

Because it shows that the higher echelon of the campaign did not know what the Russians were up to.

You realize those emails were to set up a meeting, right? Then they had the meeting?

Maybe if the Russians were operating out of a secret forest hideout with "rape trees" that would change things for you.

Agreed that those emails seem to show exactly the opposite of what Nintex is saying. IMO, the meeting and the emails around it were basically all you need to prove collusion. That WAS the conspiracy.

[Nintex]

It would also explain why Facebook send their people to Cambridge Analytica as soon as the Channel 4 story broke.
Because they knew from their work on the Trump campaign that Alexander Nix's algorithm was a load of bullshit and they ran their operation on stolen data.
In fact their actual work was very ineffective overall according to Parscale and even other 'independent' experts who looked at the ads they ran and the results.
Their spiel about reading into data and figuring out interests wasn't new in data analytics. In the end the big mystery was always where Nix got his data from to run his analysis on.

At the same time it would uncover why and how Cambridge Analytica got resources to offer their other far less legal 'services' they were peddling to the undercover journalists of Channel 4.
Cambridge Analytica was a front for or at least colluding with the GRU.

Because it shows that the higher echelon of the campaign did not know what the Russians were up to.

You realize those emails were to set up a meeting, right? Then they had the meeting?

Maybe if the Russians were operating out of a secret forest hideout with "rape trees" that would change things for you.

Agreed that those emails seem to show exactly the opposite of what Nintex is saying. IMO, the meeting and the emails around it were basically all you need to prove collusion. That WAS the conspiracy.

My point is that if the starting of focal point is the e-mails you skip the entire Carter Page, Papedoulous something, Roger Stone, Manafort etc. show .
Basically it would mean that it all began with that lady reaching out to Don Jr. to peddle some secrets about Clinton.

[benjipwns]

I think Nintex is the FBI plant trying to get us to agree to his criminal conspiracy.

kingv is blatant CIA.