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« Reply #21780 on: August 06, 2018, 06:32:03 PM »
A few months ago the idiots in this forum were melting down because I said the San Fransisco tech hipsters are coordinating with each other to censor and enforce specific anti-free speech policies.

Today Spotify, youtube, Apple, facebook banned all Alex Jones' channels. The guy is a dipshit but holy shit at these fuckers conspiring with each other to pretty much completely de-platform someone from social media and almost every big media platform on the internet. 

Infowars fires back after Apple, Facebook, YouTube remove Alex Jones content

You were wrong again, geniuses.

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« Reply #21781 on: August 06, 2018, 06:39:50 PM »
A few months ago the idiots in this forum were melting down because I said the San Fransisco tech hipsters are coordinating with each other to censor and enforce specific anti-free speech policies.

Today Spotify, youtube, Apple, facebook banned all Alex Jones' channels. The guy is a dipshit but holy shit at these fuckers conspiring with each other to pretty much completely de-platform someone from social media and almost every big media platform on the internet. 

Infowars fires back after Apple, Facebook, YouTube remove Alex Jones content

You were wrong again, geniuses.

You don't know what free speech is, do you. Maybe you really are Russian after all.
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« Reply #21782 on: August 06, 2018, 06:47:29 PM »
Sometimes I feel like YouTube and Facebook are conspiring against me.

They keep taking down my “cross dressing bear shoots massive load” videos from my timeline :-/

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« Reply #21783 on: August 06, 2018, 06:47:45 PM »
A few months ago the idiots in this forum were melting down because I said the San Fransisco tech hipsters are coordinating with each other to censor and enforce specific anti-free speech policies.

Today Spotify, youtube, Apple, facebook banned all Alex Jones' channels. The guy is a dipshit but holy shit at these fuckers conspiring with each other to pretty much completely de-platform someone from social media and almost every big media platform on the internet. 

Infowars fires back after Apple, Facebook, YouTube remove Alex Jones content

You were wrong again, geniuses.

You don't know what free speech is, do you. Maybe you really are Russian after all.


Cue the idiotic SJW definition of "free speech is just law only specific to the government" and then me explaining that is definitely false plus corporations should not have so much power to control and manipulate public discussion forums like the internet. I've had this shitty discussion a million times about this dumb talking point, find a better one I'm too tired today to do this all over again.


Before you get all high and mighty, you should read the Infowars coverage of this, Optimus. Where they compare it to Skynet becoming sentient, link it with search engine censorship in China, ask why 5 unrelated comedy channels that make fun of Alex Jones aren't banned, say it's because the lamestream media are silencing Trump's agenda (which means Infowars is propaganda for Trump then?), among other wacky things like complaining about how they've been shadow banned for months anyway.

The bullshit Jones is peddling have nothing to do with the issue.

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« Reply #21784 on: August 06, 2018, 06:48:59 PM »
Be upset that Alex Jones is banned from the internet brehs.

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« Reply #21785 on: August 06, 2018, 06:53:50 PM »
A few months ago the idiots in this forum were melting down because I said the San Fransisco tech hipsters are coordinating with each other to censor and enforce specific anti-free speech policies.

Today Spotify, youtube, Apple, facebook banned all Alex Jones' channels. The guy is a dipshit but holy shit at these fuckers conspiring with each other to pretty much completely de-platform someone from social media and almost every big media platform on the internet. 

Infowars fires back after Apple, Facebook, YouTube remove Alex Jones content

You were wrong again, geniuses.

You don't know what free speech is, do you. Maybe you really are Russian after all.


Cue the idiotic SJW definition of "free speech is just law only specific to the government" and then me explaining that is definitely false plus corporations should not have so much power to control and manipulate public discussion forums like the internet. I've had this shitty discussion a million times about this dumb talking point, find a better one I'm too tired today to do this all over again.


Before you get all high and mighty, you should read the Infowars coverage of this, Optimus. Where they compare it to Skynet becoming sentient, link it with search engine censorship in China, ask why 5 unrelated comedy channels that make fun of Alex Jones aren't banned, say it's because the lamestream media are silencing Trump's agenda (which means Infowars is propaganda for Trump then?), among other wacky things like complaining about how they've been shadow banned for months anyway.

The bullshit Jones is peddling have nothing to do with the issue.

But...private corporations and businesses have pretty broad discretion when it comes to the type of speech they allow on their platform. Spotify/Apple/etc can do what they want in this regard. There is no legal or moral obligation for them to allow everything on their platform. Hate music is banned on Spotify for instance, that's their call. I assume you're arguing hate music should be allowed on Spotify too right?

This is not a free speech issue and you clearly are confused.
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« Reply #21786 on: August 06, 2018, 06:55:21 PM »
Is there any reason to believe this is the result of a collusive effort to undermine free speech generally vs. a reluctant move in response to public pressure?

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« Reply #21787 on: August 06, 2018, 07:02:25 PM »
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Jones claimed that he had expected the ban and had prepared for it. He urged his followers to react to the ban by buying more of his InfoWars dietary supplements, imploring them to “feed your gladiator.”
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« Reply #21788 on: August 06, 2018, 07:02:33 PM »
really upset that the guy who harasses parents whose kids died at Sandy Hook is being deprived of a platform

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« Reply #21789 on: August 06, 2018, 07:20:39 PM »
Alex Jones is a habitual line-stepper, he should have been kicked off these outlets a long time ago.
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« Reply #21790 on: August 06, 2018, 07:22:37 PM »
Years from now, perhaps long after he's dead future generations will see the genius of Alex Jones and appreciate his talent as an actor and entertainer.
Much like how our generation discovered that Blade Runner was actually good.
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« Reply #21791 on: August 06, 2018, 07:33:07 PM »
Probably not

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« Reply #21793 on: August 06, 2018, 07:51:50 PM »
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There is a moron on Fox claiming I chain smoke cigarettes worrying about the President’s tweets. Don’t smoke cigarettes. Hate ‘me. Smoke only premium cigars and I hope this idiot is not a lawyer because if he is he should sue his Law School.

:thinking
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« Reply #21794 on: August 06, 2018, 08:00:34 PM »
Cue the idiotic SJW definition of "free speech is just law only specific to the government" and then me explaining that is definitely false
Go ahead.

plus corporations should not have so much power to control and manipulate public discussion forums like the internet.
Good thing they aren't doing that then. They only control their own fiefdoms. Or what do you mean by "the internet"?

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« Reply #21795 on: August 06, 2018, 08:02:36 PM »
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There is a moron on Fox claiming I chain smoke cigarettes worrying about the President’s tweets. Don’t smoke cigarettes. Hate ‘me. Smoke only premium cigars and I hope this idiot is not a lawyer because if he is he should sue his Law School.

:thinking

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« Reply #21796 on: August 06, 2018, 08:24:15 PM »
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There is a moron on Fox claiming I chain smoke cigarettes worrying about the President’s tweets. Don’t smoke cigarettes. Hate ‘me. Smoke only premium cigars and I hope this idiot is not a lawyer because if he is he should sue his Law School.

:thinking

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« Reply #21797 on: August 06, 2018, 08:56:07 PM »
Christ I come back from vacation and accidentally read an Optimus post about Alex Jones and free speech. :'(
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« Reply #21798 on: August 06, 2018, 09:46:49 PM »
So a Democrat might win Ohio's 12th district

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« Reply #21799 on: August 06, 2018, 09:55:19 PM »
Don't fall for early returns tomorrow. The democrat will probably be up 30 points due to the early voting at the start, according to Nate Cohn, but ultimately it's going to be close. Regardless...it's a R +12 district, the fact that we're even having this conversation suggests republicans are fucked across the country. Regardless of whether dems win the seat tomorrow or not.
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« Reply #21800 on: August 06, 2018, 10:01:00 PM »
I know, which is why I said might. He was up in the latest poll by 1 pt, fwiw

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« Reply #21801 on: August 06, 2018, 10:09:07 PM »
Cue the idiotic SJW definition of "free speech is just law only specific to the government" and then me explaining that is definitely false plus corporations should not have so much power to control and manipulate public discussion forums like the internet. I've had this shitty discussion a million times about this dumb talking point, find a better one I'm too tired today to do this all over again.
So the government should determine what these companies have to allow on their networks? :thinking
« Last Edit: August 06, 2018, 10:16:57 PM by benjipwns »

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« Reply #21802 on: August 06, 2018, 10:16:44 PM »
So should the government should determine what these companies have to allow on their networks? :thinking

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« Reply #21803 on: August 06, 2018, 10:46:47 PM »
Was just thinking about how the conservatives spent years freaking out over the possibility of Obama bringing back the Fairness Doctrine now want to regulate social media like public utilities and I think I gave myself a concussion.

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« Reply #21804 on: August 06, 2018, 10:57:10 PM »
Nationalize the internet :rejoice

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« Reply #21805 on: August 06, 2018, 11:17:00 PM »
RE: Trump and water - Water is a meat and potatoes issue for rural conservatives in California. For example, when you drive through the agricultural areas in the central part of the state you'll see many deranged signs posted on the roadside of farms that rant about a Congressionally-mandated dust bowl because the farmers that own them don't actually want to accept personal responsibility for engaging in cash cropping instead of productive cultivation.

San Franciscans also whine about water too, demonstrating once and for all that fishhook theory is correct thought and horseshoe theory is deviationism.

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« Reply #21806 on: August 06, 2018, 11:25:27 PM »
I think you mean CORNCOB THEORY:

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« Reply #21807 on: August 06, 2018, 11:50:18 PM »
I only recognize one political use of corncob.


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« Reply #21808 on: August 07, 2018, 12:51:35 AM »

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« Reply #21811 on: August 07, 2018, 01:23:07 AM »
Naming it the "School of Authentic Journalism" kinda seems like protesting too much.

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« Reply #21812 on: August 07, 2018, 01:28:40 AM »
They just want to make sure they're not associated with the Fake News Media that is starting wars.

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« Reply #21813 on: August 07, 2018, 01:31:14 AM »
I love how extremely online Neera Tanden is, BTW. When it came out that Lana Del Raytheon (an extremely online--hopefully--former member of DSA Los Angeles) was a creep she actually tweeted about it because they used to pick on her all the time as part of building class consciousness a personal #brand.

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« Reply #21814 on: August 07, 2018, 01:45:09 AM »
RE: Trump and water - Water is a meat and potatoes issue for rural conservatives in California. For example, when you drive through the agricultural areas in the central part of the state you'll see many deranged signs posted on the roadside of farms that rant about a Congressionally-mandated dust bowl because the farmers that own them don't actually want to accept personal responsibility for engaging in cash cropping instead of productive cultivation.

San Franciscans also whine about water too, demonstrating once and for all that fishhook theory is correct thought and horseshoe theory is deviationism.
my theory is trump recently saw quantum of solace

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« Reply #21815 on: August 07, 2018, 02:26:14 AM »

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« Reply #21816 on: August 07, 2018, 02:57:51 AM »
Cue the idiotic SJW definition of "free speech is just law only specific to the government" and then me explaining that is definitely false plus corporations should not have so much power to control and manipulate public discussion forums like the internet. I've had this shitty discussion a million times about this dumb talking point, find a better one I'm too tired today to do this all over again.
So the government should determine what these companies have to allow on their networks? :thinking

No, companies should be regulated like the government does regarding free-speech because these fucks are colluding to censor a public space. And to per-empt, don't give me this "make your own social media!" bullshit reply please.


Be upset that Alex Jones is banned from the internet brehs.

Keep missing the point, bruh.

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« Reply #21817 on: August 07, 2018, 03:08:47 AM »
So the government should determine what these companies have to allow on their networks? :thinking
No, companies should be regulated like the government


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« Reply #21818 on: August 07, 2018, 03:15:28 AM »
Yes, the SJWs that lead the major internet tech companies all conspired to silence Alex Jones cause he was getting too close to discovering the truth about chemtrails, and not because he's been in the news recently for being an utter fucking scumbag and going after the parents of murdered children.

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« Reply #21819 on: August 07, 2018, 03:18:37 AM »
Colluding

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« Reply #21820 on: August 07, 2018, 04:06:26 AM »
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« Reply #21821 on: August 07, 2018, 05:02:14 AM »
Yes, the SJWs that lead the major internet tech companies all conspired to silence Alex Jones cause he was getting too close to discovering the truth about chemtrails, and not because he's been in the news recently for being an utter fucking scumbag and going after the parents of murdered children.

This all happened within a few hours and he's been in the news for 2 years for far worse shit. Stop playing dumb.

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« Reply #21822 on: August 07, 2018, 05:19:49 AM »


look at this fucking social studies warrior

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« Reply #21823 on: August 07, 2018, 05:29:02 AM »
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look at this fucking social studies warrior


Yes, because the conditions are the same as they were when the founding fathers were alive. Madison wanted to protect people from the government because it used to be the most powerful institution in the country, now that corporations run this bitch they should be held accountable in order not to have complete control of public spaces and public discourse.

It's funny how libertarians, neoliberals, liberals and other rightwing groups all agree with each other on this shit, it's as if they want corporations to have control over the internet and media in general. It's as if they're all rightwingers shilling for corporate propaganda and control.

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« Reply #21824 on: August 07, 2018, 05:55:38 AM »
If the government regulates it, the government will decide what companies will have to allow on their networks. Just like it currently defines what is and is not speech, press, assembly, petition, etc. in regards to what is seemingly the absolutist language in the First Amendment.

We can disagree or not on what things should be protected under those clauses but I don't think anyone would deny we're not deciding what does and does not fall under them and to usually simplify under a single clause what is and is not speech that can be legislated against.

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« Reply #21825 on: August 07, 2018, 05:58:16 AM »
Yes, the SJWs that lead the major internet tech companies all conspired to silence Alex Jones cause he was getting too close to discovering the truth about chemtrails, and not because he's been in the news recently for being an utter fucking scumbag and going after the parents of murdered children.

This all happened within a few hours and he's been in the news for 2 years for far worse shit. Stop playing dumb.

Spotify was the one that got the ball rolling and that was LAST WEEK. And Twitter just said they'll be standing by him 110% so you can rest easy knowing that he'll still have a major Silicon Valley social media platform to spout about how the government's turning frogs gay.

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« Reply #21826 on: August 07, 2018, 06:01:32 AM »
Did you guys know that Google, Youtube and FB don't allow you to post kiddie porn on their platforms either?! Those damn tyrannical SJEWs have been curbing the first amendment since the very beginning!

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« Reply #21827 on: August 07, 2018, 06:04:15 AM »
Spotify was the one that got the ball rolling and that was LAST WEEK. And Twitter just said they'll be standing by him 110% so you can rest easy knowing that he'll still have a major Silicon Valley social media platform to spout about how the government's turning frogs gay.
Twitter is pro fash as fuck - look at who @jack is following. He's not just an enabler he's one of them. :yuck
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« Reply #21828 on: August 07, 2018, 06:38:14 AM »
Apple, FB, YouTube, and Spotify are all just competitors for podcast distribution. These are like bookstores, not town squares. This isn't a slippery slope, it's where we've been for hundreds of years.

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« Reply #21829 on: August 07, 2018, 08:27:31 AM »
If the government regulates it, the government will decide what companies will have to allow on their networks. Just like it currently defines what is and is not speech, press, assembly, petition, etc. in regards to what is seemingly the absolutist language in the First Amendment.

We can disagree or not on what things should be protected under those clauses but I don't think anyone would deny we're not deciding what does and does not fall under them and to usually simplify under a single clause what is and is not speech that can be legislated against.


If they're treated as utilities they'll have to abide by the same free speech laws the government does. These corporations are also regulated regarding child porn, threats of violence against politicians and so on, should the government remove these regulations too or are you only concerned about the specific ones that encourage free speech? Also are you for or against net neutrality?


Apple, FB, YouTube, and Spotify are all just competitors for podcast distribution. These are like bookstores, not town squares. This isn't a slippery slope, it's where we've been for hundreds of years.

Oh c'mon, you can't be serious with these mental gymnastics.

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« Reply #21830 on: August 07, 2018, 08:35:54 AM »
What the people celebrating and asking for the censorship of Alex Jones forget is that this tactic will be used against them in great effect within a week or so when the troll armies manage to say ban the Young Turks.

Not to mention that some are asking the 'government' to look into this and ban and censor everything else as well.
The same government that supports Alex Jones.

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They're not very smart or thinking ahead.
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« Reply #21831 on: August 07, 2018, 08:41:47 AM »
If they're treated as utilities they'll have to abide by the same free speech laws the government does.
I don't know what kind of utility you think Facebook would become, but since you know that they aren't, i.e. they're not currently under any obligation to behave as a government body would, then why are you even having this argument?
At the very least, decide what argument you're making. Moral or legal.

What the people celebrating and asking for the censorship of Alex Jones forget is that this tactic will be used against them in great effect within a week or so when the troll armies manage to say ban the Young Turks.
Good thing he isn't being censored then.
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« Reply #21832 on: August 07, 2018, 08:51:43 AM »
If the government regulates it, the government will decide what companies will have to allow on their networks. Just like it currently defines what is and is not speech, press, assembly, petition, etc. in regards to what is seemingly the absolutist language in the First Amendment.

We can disagree or not on what things should be protected under those clauses but I don't think anyone would deny we're not deciding what does and does not fall under them and to usually simplify under a single clause what is and is not speech that can be legislated against.


If they're treated as utilities they'll have to abide by the same free speech laws the government does. These corporations are also regulated regarding child porn, threats of violence against politicians and so on, should the government remove these regulations too or are you only concerned about the specific ones that encourage free speech? Also are you for or against net neutrality?
Thanks for repeating what I said back and then posing a signaling question instead of a response. Those corporations are currently exempted regarding those things as long as they aren't producing it btw.

In any case, it doesn't matter, the government currently can impose time and place restrictions, you aren't entitled to use a government facility to host your events at any time you wish for example, they can require you to get prior approval, only have it at certain times and pay for the privilege. Regulating as utilities doesn't get around this, I'm required to pay for access to electricity, they can cut my access within certain restrictions, etc.

A government owned Facebook or Google would absolutely be able to impose speech/press restrictions on them under current law. What's far more difficult for the government to do is impose them on private entities.

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« Reply #21833 on: August 07, 2018, 09:21:09 AM »
Young Turks :zzz
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« Reply #21834 on: August 07, 2018, 09:23:45 AM »
Violate the ToS, get dropped, and call it censorship brehs.
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« Reply #21835 on: August 07, 2018, 09:27:04 AM »
This free speech absolutist view is weird to me.

It seems obvious that a company should have a right to determine what content appears on its platform using completely arbitrary means. Otherwise every site with a comment section would basically turn into 4chan.

Completely makes sense that Facebook and YouTube don’t want to host content where the creator constantly slanders people, makes light of mass school shootings, and calls for violence against public figures.

Like complete and total free speech would just allow the biggest shitheads to shit up every website however they wanted to with no ability to moderate it. Like we would have to just endure etoilet coming straight at us fuckers with dead baby pictures or whatnot.

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Re: U.S. Politics Discussion Thread |OT| The Last Refuge of Cowards and Boreans
« Reply #21836 on: August 07, 2018, 09:27:13 AM »
Pansy ass Social Media Justice Warriors(SMJW)™  :yuck
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Re: U.S. Politics Discussion Thread |OT| The Last Refuge of Cowards and Boreans
« Reply #21837 on: August 07, 2018, 09:34:48 AM »
What the people celebrating and asking for the censorship of Alex Jones forget is that this tactic will be used against them in great effect within a week or so when the troll armies manage to say ban the Young Turks.

Not to mention that some are asking the 'government' to look into this and ban and censor everything else as well.
The same government that supports Alex Jones.

There's one thing I learned about progressive activists these past few years.
They're not very smart or thinking ahead.

Oh no you mean Anita is going to be banned from YouTube soon?!

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Re: U.S. Politics Discussion Thread |OT| The Last Refuge of Cowards and Boreans
« Reply #21838 on: August 07, 2018, 09:35:37 AM »
If only etoilet were here to explain this all to us. Unfortunately, the cowardly Bore mods stripped him of his first amendment rights and no one has stepped up to defend him.
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Re: U.S. Politics Discussion Thread |OT| The Last Refuge of Cowards and Boreans
« Reply #21839 on: August 07, 2018, 09:38:19 AM »
This free speech absolutist view is weird to me.

It seems obvious that a company should have a right to determine what content appears on its platform using completely arbitrary means. Otherwise every site with a comment section would basically turn into 4chan.

Completely makes sense that Facebook and YouTube don’t want to host content where the creator constantly slanders people, makes light of mass school shootings, and calls for violence against public figures.

Like complete and total free speech would just allow the biggest shitheads to shit up every website however they wanted to with no ability to moderate it. Like we would have to just endure etoilet coming straight at us fuckers with dead baby pictures or whatnot.

The free speech absolutist view isn't a genuine view, it's in expedience of keeping shitheads they agree with at easy reach is all.