US Politics Thread |OT| SAD TRUMP

[benjipwns]

don't think this Tulsi thing is going to go very well

[Mandark]

Tulsi Gabbard is going to have a much bigger impact on bitchy quote-tweets than on the actual primaries.

[Tripon]

https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/1088322017940701184

[benjipwns]

https://twitter.com/KirstenPowers/status/1088133835693481984

wait, that's the real lesson?

[Trent Dole]

[benjipwns]

SHOTS FIRED

https://twitter.com/ChrisMurphyCT/status/1088187130541690880

[shosta]

wait, that's the real lesson?

https://twitter.com/benshapiro/status/1088159193847128064

[benjipwns]

at least his height is accurately portrayed there

[kingv]

that's a suspiciously docile response

He didn’t write that shot and will turn it around and say he’s giving it in Dubuque Iowa at the civic center sometime this weekend and then mail a recording to a Congress.

[Brehvolution]

that's a suspiciously docile response

Nah, that's how a bully acts after he's been bitch slapped.

[Joe Molotov]

that's a suspiciously docile response

He didn’t write that shot and will turn it around and say he’s giving it in Dubuque Iowa at the civic center sometime this weekend and then mail a recording to a Congress.

A “great” recording.

[kingv]

This shutdown, imo, is going to go down as one of the all time worst political mistakes a president has ever made.

The fact that they are even considering g going into March and April is jaw dropping. They must be delusional to think that keeping the government shut down for 120 days over something that has 28% support in the general public is going to somehow work out in their favor.

The bottom could drop out of the shutdown. Any day, and will definitely do so prior to April. TSA agents at a major airport could start quitting en masse, or only show up to work every day, throwing the entire mass transit system in chaos. The administration sort of benefits from not having to report out gdp numbers every day but who knows how this affecting the economy?

It’s obvious to everyone it’s not GOOD.

[agrajag]

they still think they can pin the blame on the demoncrats

[Brehvolution]

The saddest part is that it isn't about ideology anymore for once. It's about the image of donny dotard getting a "win" so he doesn't look bad. If the govt. re-opens without making ol' two scoops look good, that is gonna make a big sad for prez. Probably the biggest sad in history. Many people are saying.

[james]

don't think this Tulsi thing is going to go very well

LOL at Gillary polling lower than a communist dictator.

Fuck off Gillary

[Mandark]

This shutdown, imo, is going to go down as one of the all time worst political mistakes a president has ever made.

The fact that they are even considering g going into March and April is jaw dropping. They must be delusional to think that keeping the government shut down for 120 days over something that has 28% support in the general public is going to somehow work out in their favor.

They might be hoping it's like 2013, when they were blamed for a very unpopular shutdown but everyone had forgotten about it by the midterms. But it's already gone on longer, and like you pointed out there's more potential disruption the longer it goes on.

More broadly, it's crazy that they just got smashed in an election, Trump's approval is still garbage, and none of them are saying "let's maybe do some popular things instead."

[agrajag]

lol there won't be a country left by 2020 election

or maybe benji will get his libertarian utopia

[shosta]

https://twitter.com/KamalaHarris/status/1088200203839160320

[agrajag]

Did she use "Attack Helicopter" on pourpose there lol

better consult hungrynoob om what this all could mean.

[james]

Did she use "Attack Helicopter" on pourpose there lol

Seriously of all the fucking positions...

Yikes.

I hear she just hired Hillarys ex social media person, so it makes sense

[agrajag]

if our very own soyitus made that connection, the alt rights are gonna pounce all over that 

[Kara]

More broadly, it's crazy that they just got smashed in an election, Trump's approval is still garbage, and none of them are saying "let's maybe do some popular things instead."

It's almost like they're the party of white minority rule in a political system predicated on white minority rule.

[Mandark]

I'm with ya!

I doubt they think that they are the majority.

It feels like there's been a real shift from conservatives feeling they represented most of America to feeling like an embattled minority, and that's connected with their embrace of restrictive voting laws and panic about immigration.

I remember in the early 2000's there was a lot of chatter about a "permanent Republican majority," how the GOP was hoping to hold on to Congress as long as the Democrats had with the New Deal coalition, etc. And this was after a presidential election where they lost the popular vote. For all the trolling and bluster, Trump supporters don't have anywhere near that level of confidence going forward.

Also noteworthy that the Rove/Dubya plan to expand the party base involved being less ideological (Medicare part D, dovish immigration policy, federal role in education standards), and when they talked about expanding their coalition they were often explicit about doing better with nonwhite voters. "Hispanics are natural Republicans" was a bit of a mantra. That's all long gone now.

[shosta]

You don't have to look that far back, Michael Steele was trying to do that, too

[Great Rumbler]

You don't have to look that far back, Michael Steele was trying to do that, too

Or JEB!'s 2016 primary campaign.

[team filler]

 

[Mandark]

And the post-mortem after Romney lost. Hell, Trump ran to the center on benefit programs and LGBT issues but ditched that when he became president.

But looking at the priorities of the party the last two times its been in power the difference is pretty stark (plus the more aggressive vote suppression and lame duck Calvinball they've adopted at the state level). Which makes sense. It's a lot easier to be optimistic about the future of the party when Bush splits the youth vote with Gore in 2000 than when you're losing that demographic by 40 points.

[Nola]

ADL Report: Right-Wingers Committed Every 2018 Extremist Murder In US

The Anti-Defamation League’s annual report on extremist killings in the United States, released Wednesday, found that individuals linked to right-wing extremist movements committed every single extremist-related murder in the country in 2018.

Right-wing extremists killed 50 people last year, mostly with firearms, making them responsible for more deaths than in any year since 1995, according to the ADL’s data.

The report focuses on incidents like the February mass school shooting in Parkland, Florida, committed by a teenager who expressed sympathy towards white supremacist ideology; the massacre at Pittsburgh’s Tree of Life synagogue by an avowed anti-Semite; and the shooting spree at a Tallahassee yoga studio by a man bent on committing violence against women.

Guns were responsible for 42 of the 50 deaths documented by the ADL.

“The white supremacist attack in Pittsburgh should serve as a wake-up call to everyone about the deadly consequences of hateful rhetoric,” ADL CEO Jonathan A. Greenblatt said in a statement accompanying the report’s release. “It’s time for our nation’s leaders to appropriately recognize the severity of the threat and to devote the necessary resources to address the scourge of right-wing extremism.”

The ADL only includes in its count incidents in which there is “positive evidence connecting the murderer to an extremist group or movement,” rather than just a killing committed by someone who has expressed racist, anti-Semitic, or other hateful comments. They are categorized by their “primary” ideology, meaning the one they seem most driven by, most recently followed, or that clearly drove the murder they carried out.

The ADL said they are now tracking murders committed by followers of the involuntary celibate or “incel” movement. While not all “incels” are violent, men like the Tallahassee yoga studio shooter openly express their desire to hurt and kill women who they feel have deprived them of sex or loving relationships.

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckraker/anti-defamation-league-report-right-wing-extremists-2018-murders

https://www.adl.org/murder-and-extremism-2018

 

[shosta]

Trump ran to the center on benefit programs and LGBT issues but ditched that when he became president

I don't remember that one

[Nola]

Trump ran to the center on benefit programs and LGBT issues but ditched that when he became president

I don't remember that one

He would randomly throw in bones meant to appeal to them:

GREENSBORO, N.C. — In his first campaign rally since the massacre at a gay nightclub in Orlando, Fla., Donald J. Trump again attempted to portray himself as a better friend of L.G.B.T. Americans than Hillary Clinton, in part because of his opposition to immigration from Middle Eastern countries.

“We want to live in a country where gay and lesbian Americans and all Americans are safe from radical Islam,” Mr. Trump said, “which, by the way, wants to murder and has murdered gays and they enslave women.”


“Crooked Hillary wants to increase these immigration numbers very, very substantially,” he said. “She’s no friend of women. And she’s no friend of L.G.B.T. Americans. No friend, believe me.”

And there was of course the amusing attempts of him trying to get all the letters in "LGBTQ" right during speeches and looking like WTF

[Mandark]

Donald Trump to LGBT community: I'm a 'real friend'



Like pretty much all his issue stances he was all over the place. Said trans people should use whatever bathroom they felt was appropriate, then backed down and said it should be "up to the states." And a big part of his pitch was protecting queer people from Muslims, much like the GOP pitch to black people in the 2000's tried to use gay rights as a wedge.

[team filler]

I count being kept from serving in the military as support. Think of how many Trans lives he's saving with that move 

[shosta]

aw, filler, shitty post

[agrajag]

it's almost like you guys never read filler's posts at all

[Great Rumbler]

it's almost like you guys never read filler's posts at all

I mean, I certainly don't.

[Mandark]

Both votes to open the government fail to get to 60, with six Republicans voting for the clean CR.

[Joe Molotov]

Trump ran to the center on benefit programs and LGBT issues but ditched that when he became president

I don't remember that one

Remember that photo op of Caitlyn Jenner using the women’s restroom in Trump Tower? And then after the transgender military ban being like “wow, he really had me fooled. I thought he was a great guy, how could anyone have known different.”

[agrajag]

remember when Trump ate a taco bowl on Cinco de Mayo

[agrajag]

https://twitter.com/cspan/status/1087714667118632960



 

[shosta]

I voted "Congressional Republicans" and only 7% chose that

[agrajag]

you don't think the vast majority of people who blame Trump don't also blame Republicans?

[shosta]

cspan is making choose one or the other. So, push comes to shove... well, I'll just let Bill Kristol say it

https://twitter.com/BillKristol/status/1087679483560239104

[james]

I voted "Congressional Republicans" and only 7% chose that

I did the same.

Feels bad to be so much smarter than the average twitter user

[Mandark]

Trump's people know he's getting most of the blame. That's why a bunch of his surrogates have said things to minimize what's going on. If they thought they'd shifted the blame on the Democrats, they'd talk about how terrible it was and how it should be ended.

[shosta]

Feels bad to be so much smarter than the average twitter user

Don't lump me in with you narcissist professors!

[CatsCatsCats]

I kinda think Turtleface et al are just banking on this being laid at trumps feet

[I'm a Puppy!]

I kinda think Turtleface et al are just banking on this being laid at trumps feet

I'm banking on the fact that they're just incompetent

[Kara]

ADL Report: Right-Wingers Committed Every 2018 Extremist Murder In US

Quoting for the doofuses that post here who fall over themselves to say, "But but but, James Hodgkinson!"

[kingv]

remember when Trump ate a taco bowl on Cinco de Mayo

I member when he drank the pee.

[james]

I think this shutdown is actually just an art project put together by Trump to show how fucking docile american workers are.

Try a shut down like this in France, and every government worker would be on the streets flipping buses and setting banks on fire after 24 hours.

Meanwhile, after an entire fucking month, the best the American worker can muster is asking "may I have some food sir" to corporations like Subway.

Have some fucking dignity people.

[Kara]

People are talking general strike in the airline industry (even America's voice of the revolutionary vanguard Teen Vogue is writing about them).

Speaking of unions, I'm looking forward to a passionate public debate about free speech when this moves along!

[TakingBackSunday]

looks like Trump is going to do this whole executive order thing

[Joe Molotov]

People are talking general strike in the airline industry (even America's voice of the revolutionary vanguard Teen Vogue is writing about them).

Speaking of unions, I'm looking forward to a passionate public debate about free speech when this moves along!

Lotito said business owners tend to be “offended” when worker groups use the rat inflatables. “They just fundamentally don’t think it’s consistent with the ‘f’ word—it’s just not fair.”

[kingv]

For sure. The most obvious way to stop the shutdown is for those working without pay to just stop showing up for work.

But yet 90% of the TSA is continuing to work for free for some reason. Like... why? They’re not goi g to fire like 40% of the TSA. It will just prolong their problem.

[Nintex]

https://twitter.com/joshtpm/status/1088568547993939969

https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1088567749239017472

 

[TakingBackSunday]

I'm not shocked at the replies to that Breaking911 twitter post.  Of COURSE Nintex follows that account.

[agrajag]

LMAO

https://twitter.com/LisPower1/status/1088437427595866112

And that was the moment Trump became president. Again.

[Trent Dole]

Other people write tweets on his account sometimes that's not a new thing and the msm are a bunch of fucking morons.

[agrajag]

this dude is getting graded on such a curve. Anything remotely not insane or normal and msm is like "oh my god, so presidential"

[Nintex]

CNN needs Trump for the ratings. No Trump and their network would sink.

I'm not shocked at the replies to that Breaking911 twitter post.  Of COURSE Nintex follows that account.

Actually, I don't. I just search for Shut down to see the latest news and that pops up.