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« Reply #39480 on: July 15, 2019, 05:22:24 PM »
My pitch for an article for fivethirtyeight.com: did progressives luck out that the standard bearer for centrist democrats is an incompetent campaigner?

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« Reply #39482 on: July 15, 2019, 05:33:37 PM »
My pitch for an article for fivethirtyeight.com: did progressives luck out that the standard bearer for centrist democrats is an incompetent campaigner?

https://twitter.com/TOMEGUY/status/1148920950718644229

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« Reply #39483 on: July 15, 2019, 05:45:30 PM »
Feels like Trump is genuinely throwing a fit.

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« Reply #39484 on: July 15, 2019, 06:06:14 PM »
It only works* for the GOP thanks to factors the Dems can't easily replicate (ie Senate malapportionment, the rural/urban divide, aggressive gerrymandering).

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*Also the GOP got crushed in the last election we had and the "25% of the population loves you" formula lost them a Senate seat in Alabama of all places, so.
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There is zero question that the Gingrichization of the Republican Party has been incredibly successful for them. Going hard in the paint for gun rights, lower taxes, and fighting brown people has won them control of the house for like 2/3 of elections since 1994.

You can say “oh Gerrymandering” but what enabled Gerrymandering? => Winning elections

What enabled the collapse of the democrats in 2010? Centrist policies that tried to split the baby but nobody on any side really loved.

Sure they won in 2018... but relying on your opponents to be dog shit to win elections is not a winning plan. If Marco Rubio or Hillary was President, Dems would have lost the House and lost seats in the Senate.

Edit: *more seats*

"If they did what I want them to do they'd also win elections."

It's nice to believe but it's not true. Minority rule only works if you've got some mechanism to translate <50% of the votes into a win. Those tools aren't readily available for Dems because of the current asymmetric nature of American politics.

Realistically, we haven’t had a president that has one a raw majority of the voting age population probably ever. Certainly not in any of our lifetimes on this forum. So we are talking about minority rule.

Trump won in part by expanding the Republican coalition  a few percentage points into pockets of people that usually don’t vote against an opponent that Could barely inspire her own base much less non-voters.

Trying to pretend the 55% of turnout is a non-mutable fixed population, and the only strategy is to blow out your left flank in an attempt to convince people in the middle to switch is a suckers game. We’ve seen how well that’s worked over the last 25 years, where the democrats can only win when they have a great candidate or democrats or when the Republicans threaten to fuck up Medicare or social security.

Giving up 10% of registered Democrats for 10% of thecurrently  non-voting population would be a net gain. Can that be done? I have no idea. The only candidate that has really tried it in a general election is Trump. But I do know the math is a lot more complex than you are suggesting.

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« Reply #39485 on: July 15, 2019, 06:57:04 PM »
I don't think "you can win by driving up turnout" is really compatible with "you only need 25% of the population."

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« Reply #39486 on: July 15, 2019, 07:36:31 PM »
My point is that trying to divide up the current electorate by being everything to everyone is going to always have results where you win or lose based on how overtly awful the republicans are being at any moment.

26% of the voting age population currently identify as democrats and their turnout is historically pretty marginal compared to Republicans. So yeah, if they had 25% that would reliably turn out they would win more elections.

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« Reply #39487 on: July 15, 2019, 08:27:51 PM »

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« Reply #39488 on: July 15, 2019, 08:33:35 PM »
at least Mandark agrees that Biden is an asshole  :jawalrus

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« Reply #39489 on: July 15, 2019, 08:44:21 PM »
https://twitter.com/ErinBanco/status/1150906185081643010

Turkey paid for some top tier lobbying...

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« Reply #39490 on: July 15, 2019, 08:52:20 PM »
at least Mandark agrees that Biden is an asshole  :jawalrus

We all need something to rally behind.


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« Reply #39493 on: July 15, 2019, 11:05:30 PM »

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« Reply #39496 on: July 15, 2019, 11:39:35 PM »
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« Reply #39497 on: July 15, 2019, 11:43:46 PM »
Boom! M-dawg got reparations done.

What’s next for this savage animal?

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« Reply #39501 on: July 16, 2019, 04:18:55 AM »
https://joebiden.com/healthcare/

Bro, cast your own shadow, bro. Pretty cringe. :doge

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Making prescription drug advertising a nondeductible expense. :whew
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« Reply #39502 on: July 16, 2019, 04:25:16 AM »
Someone invite #IceBae to the Bire  :drool
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« Reply #39504 on: July 16, 2019, 10:35:59 AM »
I'm sure Bagel Guy hates IceBae for not dating him, tho.
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« Reply #39506 on: July 16, 2019, 11:05:30 AM »
https://twitter.com/_grendan/status/1150980904019476486

 :whew  :hitler

Three weeks until this gets tried back to trump it and paid actress.

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« Reply #39508 on: July 16, 2019, 12:15:07 PM »
The Squad is pretty cringe tbh

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« Reply #39510 on: July 16, 2019, 01:45:08 PM »
How y’all gonna call trump racist when he kissed that black campaign worker on his bus.

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« Reply #39511 on: July 16, 2019, 01:50:26 PM »
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« Reply #39512 on: July 16, 2019, 01:51:15 PM »
https://twitter.com/politico/status/1151187072150990848

 :lol

You can leave or you can listen to Ben Carson and Jared
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« Reply #39513 on: July 16, 2019, 01:52:27 PM »
I'm sure Bagel Guy hates IceBae for not dating him, tho.

fact check, bagel guy fucks:


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« Reply #39514 on: July 16, 2019, 01:57:53 PM »
How y’all gonna call trump racist when he kissed that black campaign worker on his bus.

As racist as Donald Sterling. :doge


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« Reply #39516 on: July 16, 2019, 02:25:11 PM »
I'm all about CardiB running for office one day. Let's get weird(er).






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« Reply #39520 on: July 16, 2019, 02:50:41 PM »
https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1151168214493270022

"[...] Hollywood D-listers doing nothing but complain on Twitter all day"

 :thinking :ohhh :huh
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« Reply #39521 on: July 16, 2019, 03:33:44 PM »
ok sue me, but I kind of want to see this happen

https://twitter.com/washingtonpost/status/1151102189315809280

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« Reply #39522 on: July 16, 2019, 03:36:03 PM »
Joe: "Ok, Trump. Let's do push ups"

Trump: "Ok Joe, you go first. Let's do 10.. no 20"

Joe: "20? Ok, you're on big man"

Joe: *pant* *pant* *sigh* *thud*

Moderator: "O MY GOD HE'S HAVING A HEART ATTACK"

 :putin
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« Reply #39525 on: July 16, 2019, 03:50:38 PM »
:dead no way

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« Reply #39526 on: July 16, 2019, 04:00:29 PM »
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he marked his own 65th birthday with Shakur-themed cookies

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« Reply #39527 on: July 16, 2019, 04:03:22 PM »
he was only 42 when Tupac died. Maybe he was a fan since the Digital Underground days

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« Reply #39528 on: July 16, 2019, 04:56:34 PM »
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« Reply #39529 on: July 16, 2019, 05:00:02 PM »
The party thanks you for your contribution :juche
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« Reply #39530 on: July 16, 2019, 05:07:01 PM »
Marianne Williamson is gonna be on the Rubin report

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« Reply #39531 on: July 16, 2019, 05:58:16 PM »
What is all this fuckery

Pelosi called Trump's tweets racist
GOP objected, having her speaking privilege revoked for today
House votes to reinstate peaking privileges of Pelosi

https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/1151248688334987264
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« Reply #39532 on: July 16, 2019, 06:01:23 PM »
:neogaf how can anyone still have this pov

https://twitter.com/NewYorker/status/1150954016425357313
He's doing what he said he would so, yes?
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« Reply #39533 on: July 16, 2019, 06:04:09 PM »
they meant "beaking privileges"  :birb
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« Reply #39534 on: July 16, 2019, 06:05:20 PM »
What is all this fuckery

Pelosi called Trump's tweets racist
GOP objected, having her speaking privilege revoked for today
House votes to reinstate peaking privileges of Pelosi

https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/1151248688334987264

It's in the House rules itself that you can't accuse the president of being racist.
https://twitter.com/MEPFuller/status/1151217423556718598

Also, Michael Steele brings the fire.

https://twitter.com/jenszalai/status/1148681308966703109


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« Reply #39535 on: July 16, 2019, 06:13:44 PM »
LMAO a resolution to call the President racist while the rules say you can't call President's racist.

What sort of galaxy brain logic is that. In fact, who went back in time and wrote those rules in such a way that benefit absolutely no one except Donald J. Trump.  :lol
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« Reply #39536 on: July 16, 2019, 06:21:10 PM »
LMAO a resolution to call the President racist while the rules say you can't call President's racist.

What sort of galaxy brain logic is that. In fact, who went back in time and wrote those rules in such a way that benefit absolutely no one except Donald J. Trump.  :lol

To answer your question seriously, the United States were governed for centuries by slave owners before the country was formed, and continued to be run by slave owners for a century after. A slavery based on one's race. Just like today, 'civilized' people didn't care for their own hypocrisy, and racism to be pointed out in the open.

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« Reply #39537 on: July 16, 2019, 06:27:37 PM »
Why the fuck does she do so much press work? She's not the press secretary, she's not White House or POTUS spokesperson. Is her role even an official position anymore?

Wasn't it recommended for a firing after shilling Ivanka commercial products and breaking regulations ?

And at the risk of being a PogiJones, just wanted to say that Trump latest meltdown was shocking, even by his standards.
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« Reply #39538 on: July 16, 2019, 06:35:04 PM »
Trump is doing a rally tomorrow, the Tweet storm was probably a teaser.

He (or his campaign) wants the Democrats tied to the progressive wing so they can frame their opponents as the 'radical left communists' but he's going into this fight guns blazing.
He's doubling down as always because that always works for him.

CNN had Richard Spencer on to discuss how even white nationalists are disappointed in Trump  :derp

https://twitter.com/LevineJonathan/status/1151249457285095424
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« Reply #39539 on: July 16, 2019, 07:27:58 PM »


What kind of performatively Irish American doesn't know the different tribes of the British Isles