US Politics Thread |OT| SAD TRUMP

[Tasty]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SiylvmFI_8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxoEpVDGvPE

[Boredfrom]

If Epstein was killed, this has been the dumbest cover up I have seen. Banana Republics will be impressed by this level of incompetence to kill someone and keep everyone quiet.

[Tasty]

https://www.vox.com/the-highlight/2019/8/8/20747198/philadelphia-bombing-1985-move

Hadn't heard about this before. #voxsplained #whiteechochamber

But seriously, actually... what the fucking fuck...

[thisismyusername]

https://www.vox.com/the-highlight/2019/8/8/20747198/philadelphia-bombing-1985-move

Hadn't heard about this before. #voxsplained #whiteechochamber

But seriously, actually... what the fucking fuck...

Then you must not have heard of the Tulsa Race Riots/Pogrom.

[Tasty]

https://www.vox.com/the-highlight/2019/8/8/20747198/philadelphia-bombing-1985-move

Hadn't heard about this before. #voxsplained #whiteechochamber

But seriously, actually... what the fucking fuck...

Then you must not have heard of the Tulsa Race Riots/Pogrom.

I have, but haven't looked too deeply into them.

Man, America is pretty shitty sometimes

[thetylerrob]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjuA03FlXiU

 

[Transhuman]

If Epstein was killed, this has been the dumbest cover up I have seen. Banana Republics will be impressed by this level of incompetence to kill someone and keep everyone quiet.

So what you're saying is the Saudis are involved.

The Saudis paid for the warm blankets and hot cocoa that Bill Clinton gave the guards

[ToxicAdam]

https://www.vox.com/the-highlight/2019/8/8/20747198/philadelphia-bombing-1985-move

Hadn't heard about this before. #voxsplained #whiteechochamber

But seriously, actually... what the fucking fuck...

Watch the documentary "Let the Fire Burn", it's great. I caught it on PBS a few years back.

[Boredfrom]

Trump and Israel colluding to ban Omar and Tlaib from Israel in the hopes to smear Democrats by association and defense seems to be pretty smart to be coming from him only, I wonder how he is going to fucked it up.

[Joe Molotov]

https://www.vox.com/the-highlight/2019/8/8/20747198/philadelphia-bombing-1985-move

Hadn't heard about this before. #voxsplained #whiteechochamber

But seriously, actually... what the fucking fuck...

Watch the documentary "Let the Fire Burn", it's great. I caught it on PBS a few years back.

Thanks for the link, I'll give this a watch.

[Mandark]

https://www.vox.com/the-highlight/2019/8/8/20747198/philadelphia-bombing-1985-move

Hadn't heard about this before. #voxsplained #whiteechochamber

But seriously, actually... what the fucking fuck...

Not quite as insane, but also look up the raid on 39th & Dalton by the LAPD.

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And the Greenwood Massacre while you're on a roll feeling bad about the country.

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[Nintex]

Trump and Israel colluding to ban Omar and Tlaib from Israel in the hopes to smear Democrats by association and defense seems to be pretty smart to be coming from him only, I wonder how he is going to fucked it up.

All because of this Tweet
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1162000480681287683

Israel has already confirmed this was Trump's idea and they agreed with it 

I'm surprised he hasn't tweeted about the Clinton painting yet. He'll probably bring it up during his rally. 

[Great Rumbler]

I wonder how he is going to fucked it up.

By asking for it in the first place?

[D3RANG3D]

https://twitter.com/yashar/status/1161974095040405504

[Boredfrom]

I wonder how he is going to fucked it up.

By doing asking for it in the first place?

I was thinking that he would say something racist in a day, but seems that the Israel lobbyists are not exactly thrilled by it either.

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Trump and Israel colluding to ban Omar and Tlaib from Israel in the hopes to smear Democrats by association and defense seems to be pretty smart to be coming from him only, I wonder how he is going to fucked it up.

All because of this Tweet
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1162000480681287683

Israel has already confirmed this was Trump's idea and they agreed with it 

I'm surprised he hasn't tweeted about the Clinton painting yet. He'll probably bring it up during his rally. 

https://twitter.com/Partisangirl/status/1162012846676332544

[Nintex]

https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1162051846632017920

 

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[Nintex]

https://twitter.com/igorbobic/status/1162061335921876992

fredo bonus points

https://twitter.com/igorbobic/status/1162054748587069440

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[Tasty]

https://www.vox.com/the-highlight/2019/8/8/20747198/philadelphia-bombing-1985-move

Hadn't heard about this before. #voxsplained #whiteechochamber

But seriously, actually... what the fucking fuck...

Watch the documentary "Let the Fire Burn", it's great. I caught it on PBS a few years back.

Added to my wishlist this morning.

Can't wait to be horrified and depressed.

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[Tasty]

Sorry to disappoint but I've been on a deradicalization downslope since the '16 elections. I'm more selective about my passions, and I encourage others to follow the same path.

[kingv]

Trump and Israel colluding to ban Omar and Tlaib from Israel in the hopes to smear Democrats by association and defense seems to be pretty smart to be coming from him only, I wonder how he is going to fucked it up.

Honestly, I feel like putting all of your eggs in one basket as a US vassal state is a huge mistake.

How many Democratic voters are going to back Israel over their own congress people?

[Nintex]

Finally the pivot we've all been waiting for.

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https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1162066187368456192

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[Cauliflower Of Love]

We should radicalize tasty. I think he's ready for it.

 

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[Boredfrom]

Trump and Israel colluding to ban Omar and Tlaib from Israel in the hopes to smear Democrats by association and defense seems to be pretty smart to be coming from him only, I wonder how he is going to fucked it up.

Honestly, I feel like putting all of your eggs in one basket as a US vassal state is a huge mistake.

How many Democratic voters are going to back Israel over their own congress people?

I’m really surprised this actually seems to backfired for Trump

[Tasty]

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign-polls/457548-warren-leads-field-by-5-points-in-wisconsin-poll

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[Cauliflower Of Love]

Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.), at 24 percent, and former Vice President Joe Biden, at 20 percent,

poor biden.

bye felicia

[Nintex]

Trump and Israel colluding to ban Omar and Tlaib from Israel in the hopes to smear Democrats by association and defense seems to be pretty smart to be coming from him only, I wonder how he is going to fucked it up.

Honestly, I feel like putting all of your eggs in one basket as a US vassal state is a huge mistake.

How many Democratic voters are going to back Israel over their own congress people?

I’m really surprised this actually seems to backfired for Trump

His entire fast food fueled high as a kite presidency backfired.
Trump doubles down, triples down, quadruples down and then declares himself the #winner and the press and #resistance throw their hands up in the air crying out: "Teflon Don outsmarted us again!"

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https://twitter.com/ewarren/status/1162010723691765760

https://twitter.com/philosophrob/status/1162090324531003392

 

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[agrajag]

^ he was just arrested a few days ago

[thisismyusername]

Shamelessly stolen from Chapo:

[james]

First Dem candidate to propose turning Israel into glass gets my vote

[Skullfuckers Anonymous]

https://nypost.com/2019/08/15/jeffrey-epsteins-gal-pal-ghislaine-maxwell-spotted-at-in-n-out-burger-in-first-photos-since-his-death/

Jeffrey Epstein’s alleged madam and former lover Ghislaine Maxwell has been discovered — at In-N-Out Burger.

The 57-year-old was photographed alive and well Monday at the burger joint’s location in Universal City, Los Angeles.

Once spotted, Maxwell — who was sitting alone with a pet pooch — told an onlooker: “Well, I guess this is the last time I’ll be eating here!”

Maxwell, who was reading a book called “The Book of Honor: The Secret Lives and Deaths of CIA Operatives,” has been underground for months — and has not been pictured in public since 2016.

 

[kingv]

“They asked for Apple juice, but we gave them the Apple head”
-Ghislaine Maxwell

[jorma]

https://nypost.com/2019/08/15/jeffrey-epsteins-gal-pal-ghislaine-maxwell-spotted-at-in-n-out-burger-in-first-photos-since-his-death/

Jeffrey Epstein’s alleged madam and former lover Ghislaine Maxwell has been discovered — at In-N-Out Burger.

The 57-year-old was photographed alive and well Monday at the burger joint’s location in Universal City, Los Angeles.

Once spotted, Maxwell — who was sitting alone with a pet pooch — told an onlooker: “Well, I guess this is the last time I’ll be eating here!”

Maxwell, who was reading a book called “The Book of Honor: The Secret Lives and Deaths of CIA Operatives,” has been underground for months — and has not been pictured in public since 2016.

 

That does seem likely, yeah.

[Nintex]

https://twitter.com/AndrewRestuccia/status/1162113352598020096

 

[TakingBackSunday]

Nintex are you just a Trump bot

[Great Rumbler]

https://twitter.com/AndrewRestuccia/status/1162113352598020096

 

Trump is just stealing Lex Luthor's plan from Superman [and Superman Returns]. In this case, taking the US out of the Paris Climate Agreement in order to keep climate change trucking right along and then buying up Greenland so he can make a ton of money selling tropical beachfront property in a couple decades.

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https://nypost.com/2019/08/15/jeffrey-epsteins-gal-pal-ghislaine-maxwell-spotted-at-in-n-out-burger-in-first-photos-since-his-death/

Jeffrey Epstein’s alleged madam and former lover Ghislaine Maxwell has been discovered — at In-N-Out Burger.

The 57-year-old was photographed alive and well Monday at the burger joint’s location in Universal City, Los Angeles.

Once spotted, Maxwell — who was sitting alone with a pet pooch — told an onlooker: “Well, I guess this is the last time I’ll be eating here!”

Maxwell, who was reading a book called “The Book of Honor: The Secret Lives and Deaths of CIA Operatives,” has been underground for months — and has not been pictured in public since 2016.

 

Borgerson has flatly denied any romance with Maxwell.

“I am not dating Ghislaine, I’m home alone with my cat,” he told The Post.

[james]

https://twitter.com/NateSilver538/status/1162096275598270466

[daemon]

Nintex are you just a Trump bot

The truth is way better: he's a Dutch tech manager with the social media feed of an Iowan trucker

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https://twitter.com/EoinHiggins_/status/1162080929504026624

https://twitter.com/kevantrich/status/1162085134306336769

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Nintex are you just a Trump bot

The truth is way better: he's a Dutch tech manager with the social media feed of an Iowan trucker

(he's brown)

[Tasty]

https://twitter.com/ewarren/status/1162010723691765760

https://twitter.com/philosophrob/status/1162090324531003392

 

Neither statement is wrong, nor do they conflict with each other. But nuance is dead sooo

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https://twitter.com/AliAbunimah/status/1162019492651839488





we hate trump, but we love the guy who's an even bigger piece of shit and further to the right!

[agrajag]

https://twitter.com/willsommer/status/1162135752857313281

[agrajag]

Even Neolibs are hitting Obama from the left now (long thread)

https://twitter.com/matthewstoller/status/1161731817881395200

[agrajag]

https://twitter.com/benshapiro/status/1162121733752492032

[Tripon]

Trump and Israel colluding to ban Omar and Tlaib from Israel in the hopes to smear Democrats by association and defense seems to be pretty smart to be coming from him only, I wonder how he is going to fucked it up.

Honestly, I feel like putting all of your eggs in one basket as a US vassal state is a huge mistake.

How many Democratic voters are going to back Israel over their own congress people?

I’m really surprised this actually seems to backfired for Trump

There was an article written in a Jewish weekly alternative newspaper how there was this secret meeting (as it was not put on a public agenda, and only a small group was allowed to be there) Jewish group in Tlaib hated that she was their congresswoman just because she was so outspoken about BDS and embraced her Palestinian heritage, so they were trying to primary her. Then the article quoted a bunch of Jewish people who weren't at the meeting going "WTF, you're making the stereotypes true. Stop that."
https://www.jta.org/2019/08/02/united-states/detroit-jews-are-caught-between-a-rock-named-trump-and-a-hard-choice-among-democrats

Rep. Rashida Tlaib must go

At the Jewish federation round table, there was a consensus: The Palestinian-American freshman in the 13th District has got to go.

“We in this community will go against Rashida Tlaib,” said Lisa Lis, a philanthropist who is also a contributor to Democratic candidates, and who otherwise during the roundtable was vocal in her criticism of President Donald Trump.

There were nods around the table. I was told that there had already been outreach to Brenda Jones, the Detroit City Council president whom Tlaib defeated in last year’s primary, and who is considering another run. I was also told that pro-Israel folks were already socking away money to target Tlaib.

The pro-Israel lay leader described the “intersectionality” advanced by “The Squad,” the quartet of freshman progressive congresswomen composed of Tlaib, Omar, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez of New York and Ayanna Pressley of Massachusetts, as the flip side of Trump. “Post-factual,” the leader called them, saying they like Trump rely on racial identity politics instead of policy.

“The weaker one is and the darker one is” determines who is “in the right,” the lay leader said of The Squad, an “anti-intellectual” posture that bodes ill for Jews and Israel.

https://mondoweiss.net/2019/08/shocking-leading-rashida/

Lara Friedman of the Foundation for Middle East Peace points out the views, expressed by “organizational Jewish Dems,” will fulfill the worst ideas people have of Jews:

f someone was speculating that these were the views, rather than reporting what people said publicly, they’d be accused of antisemitism.

A rabbi has the sense to tell Kampeas that such an effort aimed at Tlaib would be “catastrophic.”

Rabbi [Alana] Alpert, who was not part of the roundtable, told me that taking aim at Tlaib would be catastrophic for Jewish community relations, and for the issue that more than any other keeps Jewish community leaders awake: keeping younger Jews engaged.

[Tasty]

https://twitter.com/shannonrwatts/status/1162081886119837696

http://investors.overstock.com/news-releases/news-release-details/overstockcom-ceo-comments-deep-state-withholds-further-comment/

Overstock.com CEO Comments on Deep State, Withholds Further Comment

[Joe Molotov]

balls deep state

[Tripon]

https://twitter.com/tomwatson/status/1161769976484769797

 

[agrajag]

the tom watson guy is a chode, barely above the horse guy

[curly]

Even Neolibs are hitting Obama from the left now (long thread)

https://twitter.com/matthewstoller/status/1161731817881395200

Stoller's been hating on Obama forever though

[thisismyusername]

https://twitter.com/tomwatson/status/1161769976484769797

 

the tom watson guy is a chode, barely above the horse guy

https://twitter.com/tomwatson/status/1121027525612851200

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. *wheeze* Is he serious?

https://twitter.com/pbetsy22/status/1121161932868730880

*still wheezing*

Oh Liberals will never learn. Never.

[Tripon]

https://twitter.com/tomwatson/status/1161769976484769797

 

the tom watson guy is a chode, barely above the horse guy

https://twitter.com/tomwatson/status/1121027525612851200

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. *wheeze* Is he serious?

Yes, the guy is a huge Hillary stan. If you check out his old blog, there's rants from 2008 about how Obama stole Hillary's moment.

The Few, the Proud...the Clinton Bloggers
A funny thing happened to my Lijit social search results (that little box to the right) - "Johnny Thunders" was replaced over the last eight weeks or so by "Clinton blogger." That means more people are coming here because I'm somehow perceived as a pro-Hillary blogger than as an aging fan of a long-dead New York glam-punk rocker. Where they get this notion, I'll never know. Funny how the world turns, but as Johnny might intone in a voice that, dare I say it, may have occasionally seemed shrill: "it doesn't pay to try, all the smart boys know why."

But enough of lyrical asides from Max's Kansas City circa 1979, and on to more pressing matters. "Clinton blogger," eh? Well, I guess it's fair. And come to think of it, being a somewhat prominent Clinton blogger puts me an elite group - fewer in number, I suspect, than the roster of drummers employed by the Heartbreakers in their, uh, heyday.

To be a Clinton blogger in the progressive blogosphere is to be hated, shunned, passed without notice in the street. We sit home on Friday nights, cursing at Chris Matthews and being censored by Al Giordano for commenting too often in a field of swaying Obama supplication. We're not welcome at all the best dKos parties - if we show up, we're cursed with the universal epithet of those who challenge the Obama hegemony: "troll," they call us. Sometimes "f'ing troll." We're Rovian in our embrace of the monster, closet Bush backers and much worse - Lieberman types! Oh, the pain. The pure pain. I can't stand it. Makes me want to quit, embrace that messianic goodness, and stand down - for the sake of the party, of course - from any pursuit of a Clinton presidency.

Or perhaps...not. Looking over the (all-too-short) lineup of Clinton bloggers is enough to stiffen any political  spine. We don't have numbers, but we do have quality. And with seven weeks to go till Pennsylvania, it's worth a little time to look around the room. There's Taylor Marsh, of course - unapologetic, in your face, deeply annoying to those who decry "the Clintons." Why, her very name launches vast armadas of angry commenters, her very name has become almost synonymous with hard-fisted Clinton blogging. We like her out front, in other words.

And look, we've got James Wolcott - the intellectual equivalent, according to some recent Pew research, of a combined 14,392 DailyKos Obama diarists. (I must note: he'd probably disapprove of the label "Clinton blogger" but we have to stretch things on our roster at times and he did coin the memorable phrase: "so shun me, I voted for Hillary," which has pretty much become our rallying cry - the T-shirts are on order). Then there's Big Tent Democrat and Jeralyn Merritt at TalkLeft - absolutely fabulous analysts and media critics. We'll include Lance Mannion, who has never named his choice but makes the always curious decision to actually defend Hillary Clinton in multiple posts - yes, he's one of us. Blue Girl, of course, and in Ohio too - so very crucial.

Let's not forget the prolific Riverdaughter, a feminist of wide-ranging abilities who always seems to nail what's so important about the typical Clinton voter (hint: they work, and they work at hard jobs). Our circle is made richer by the addition of the indomitable Shakespeare's Sister, a former Edwards blogger and all-around blog-whoring (her term, don't shoot me!) maestro.

Who else? John Amato at Crooks and Liars - playing it fair these days makes you a Clinton blogger. Fred Wilson and Jeff Jarvis? Well, they voted for her and actually admitted it in public. Joe Gandelman? An always moderate voice who seems to lean her way (I could be wrong). Jon Swift? The rare righty who doesn't hate Hillary. And I'm thinking Jane Hamsher leans our way. And Jessica Valenti. Digby too. And hey, maybe Tina Brown?

Heck, that's a team. Who else qualifies? I know I've missed someone. Let me know! You may qualify for a limited edition Peter Daou bobblehead doll.

UPDATE: The suggestions are flying in - can't believe I missed some of these, since I read 'em all the time. how about these fine, brave souls: eRiposte and Jeff Dinelli at the Left Coaster and netroots pioneer Jerome Armstrong and Todd Beeton at MyDD. Let's not forget Pamela Leavey, Larry Johnson, Tennessee Guerilla Women, Lane Hudson, Perez Hilton, Susie Madrak, the Daily Howler and and everybody at Hillary's Bloggers.

UPDATE II: They keep rolling in; we do like to stick together. Many more to add to the roster (can't believe my addled state to leave off some of them). There's savvy   Anglachel and The Redstar Perspective, not to mention the ever-vocal NYC Weboy. Lots of great perspective at The Hillary 1000, too (though we're a blogger or two short of a grand). Let's not forget the fierce Blue Lyon and the The Reclusive Leftist, and the growl of Mojave Wolf. Keep 'em coming and add these good people to your feedreaders and blogrolls.

UPDATE III: What a list, and it keeps on growing. More in a moment. But I'd also like to make an observation from visiting these great blogs - most (not all) of what we're calling Clinton blogs are really progressive political blogs, left of center and run by political realists. They are in the main, not hysterical about Hillary Clinton's opponent - indeed, many is the kind word to be found about Barack Obama. I'd venture this is the obverse of the more vocal Obama blogs, where the opponent has been cast not as a valid if secondary Democratic choice for president, but as a monster and far worse. OK - to add to the list (and I'm addled for having missed some): Adorable Girlfriend and her buds at Republic of Dogs bring the attitude. The RealSpiel is a real find, and we certainly leave out the amazing Bartcop. Let's not forget the noble Donna Darko, nor the important voting bloc over at MOMocrats. And even in the darkest depths of Mordor (spring, 2008 version) a little light can always be found in the charming personages of Alegre and BrownSox. And let's all add the feisty Delilah Boyd and Sugar N Spice to our blogrolls as well, along with outspoken I Have an Opinion and the cringing but proud West and Divided. Save room there for the elegant Democratic Wings and the erudite Progressive Involvement blogs. Old favorites Feministe and Susie Madrak have been suggested, and will indeed be noted, as has blogging buddy Dave Johnson, who usually plays it down the middle - and should receive our praise and linkage.

https://tomwatson.typepad.com/tom_watson/2008/03/the-few-the-pro.html

[thisismyusername]

So like Glenn, he has a granny fetish. Good to know. Another one to cull from my Twitter sphere.

[Mandark]

oh we talking matt stoller?

https://twitter.com/matthewstoller/status/1152200278260756480