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« Reply #58260 on: May 19, 2020, 11:34:21 PM »
they couldn't even repeal the aca

It’s hard for me to see the ACA as anything other than a clear unequivocal win for Republicans.

They snookered the democrats into adopting a Heritage Foundation Health platform, and parlayed it into a near decade long majority in Congress, then successfully watered it down to remove all the penalties, reintroduced junk insurance through executive orders (which you can buy with government subsidies now), successfully neutered the best part of the law through a partisan Supreme Court, and removed all the cost saving measures,  and turned it introduced block grant waivers.

So now you have a law which barely 50% of Americans even like, insurance premiums are still rising faster than wages, and 10 years later deductibles have grown 2x faster than inflation.

they ran against it for about a decade, shut down the government in 2013 to try to stop it being implemented, passed a billion symbolic "repeal" bills when they knew it would die in the senate or get vetoed, and when they got control of both houses of congress they couldn't repeal it despite leadership making it a top priority. then they lost the house after the other party crushed them with negative ads over it

if the dems fucked up something that bad it would be exhibit a in the case for why they suck

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« Reply #58261 on: May 19, 2020, 11:43:11 PM »


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« Reply #58262 on: May 19, 2020, 11:57:48 PM »
I'm talking to him on twitter right now. He's not coming back. To quote him:

"That thread is garbage. Completely taken over by lunatic Rose Twitter types"
So Glenda's saying she wants more Jennifer Rubin and Bill Kristol type content? On it.

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« Reply #58263 on: May 20, 2020, 01:16:21 AM »
U.S. Sen. Rand Paul is speaking out about the controversial shooting of former Louisville EMT Breonna Taylor, who was killed by police during a "no-knock" search warrant that experts have heavily criticized.

In an exclusive statement to The Courier Journal, the Republican lawmaker expressed concern about the Louisville Metro Police Department's search of Taylor's apartment on March 13, which has led to a national outcry.

Court records show police obtained a no-knock warrant before using a battering ram to enter Taylor's apartment at around 1 a.m. as part of a narcotics investigation.

But the warrant shows Taylor was not the main subject of the investigation, and that no narcotics were found in her apartment after she was shot eight times by police.

"No one should lose their life in pursuit of a crime without a victim, and 'no-knock' warrants should be forbidden," Paul said.
:cenk calm down Senator, this is the worst time to be restricting our first responders

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« Reply #58264 on: May 20, 2020, 01:59:11 AM »
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Michigan Secretary of State Jocelyn Benson (D) announced Tuesday that all of the state’s registered voters will receive applications for absentee ballots in the mail this year in an effort to avoid crowded polling places amid the coronavirus pandemic.

“By mailing applications, we have ensured that no Michigander has to choose between their health and their right to vote,” Benson said in a statement. “Voting by mail is easy, convenient, safe, and secure, and every voter in Michigan has the right to do it.”
r.i.p. democracy :usacry

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« Reply #58265 on: May 20, 2020, 06:33:00 AM »
I think it's even cooler to have meltdowns over Star Trek or Final Fantasy than US politics.

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« Reply #58266 on: May 20, 2020, 07:00:15 AM »
Listen fats, anybody who read any of that shit from the last two pages is a fucking loser ayy lmao   :biden
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« Reply #58267 on: May 20, 2020, 07:44:59 AM »
All this because Pelosi called Trump fat

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« Reply #58268 on: May 20, 2020, 09:55:44 AM »
what exactly is he defunding?

emergency funds?

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« Reply #58269 on: May 20, 2020, 09:58:51 AM »
they couldn't even repeal the aca

It’s hard for me to see the ACA as anything other than a clear unequivocal win for Republicans.

They snookered the democrats into adopting a Heritage Foundation Health platform, and parlayed it into a near decade long majority in Congress, then successfully watered it down to remove all the penalties, reintroduced junk insurance through executive orders (which you can buy with government subsidies now), successfully neutered the best part of the law through a partisan Supreme Court, and removed all the cost saving measures,  and turned it introduced block grant waivers.

So now you have a law which barely 50% of Americans even like, insurance premiums are still rising faster than wages, and 10 years later deductibles have grown 2x faster than inflation.

they ran against it for about a decade, shut down the government in 2013 to try to stop it being implemented, passed a billion symbolic "repeal" bills when they knew it would die in the senate or get vetoed, and when they got control of both houses of congress they couldn't repeal it despite leadership making it a top priority. then they lost the house after the other party crushed them with negative ads over it

if the dems fucked up something that bad it would be exhibit a in the case for why they suck

I will say that my cynical mind holds two opinions of the parties:
1) the Dems are somewhat sincere about wanting to do the things they actually propose. Like when they introduce pay go rules or whatever, they think they are doing good policy. Some of their ideas are good, some bad, but they are (most of the time) honestly trying to govern.
2) the Republicans have a lot of issues that really only exist to maintain power, and promote their real agenda which is staying in power, and secondarily, maintaining low taxes and regulatory burden on their donors, and perhaps maintain some kind of white supremacy social framework. Most of the other issues are just things they say to rile up their base.

I think that many Republican politicians, in their heart of hearts, really give a shit about the ACA one way or another. They just want to make sure that the rich share no burden of funding it. Similarly, I don’t think they really care that much about abortion or the 2nd amendment, those things are just useful issues to rile up deadenders to come to the polls. It’s why they hold so many performative votes that are going nowhere.

Some of them, I think, would prefer that some of these arguments carry on indefinitely, because they are good at ginning up the base during elections.

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« Reply #58270 on: May 20, 2020, 11:53:48 AM »
lol states rights
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« Reply #58271 on: May 20, 2020, 01:09:13 PM »
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« Reply #58272 on: May 20, 2020, 01:23:51 PM »
https://www.wxyz.com/news/trump-threatens-to-withhold-michigan-funding-after-states-decision-to-mail-absentee-ballot-applications

Someone please tell me again how Biden and Trump are literally the same.

They're not.

But the fact that both of them are apparently the "best of us" in the eyes of the two parties is beyond infuriating.

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« Reply #58273 on: May 20, 2020, 01:27:17 PM »
I don't think anyone here has said they are literally the same, only that they both advocate maintaining a status quo that fails to address in any meaningful way the bulk of changes that Americans desperately need (such as medicare for all and the reduction of income inequality), or in the case of reducing carbon emissions, that the world desperately needs.

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« Reply #58274 on: May 20, 2020, 01:27:27 PM »
https://www.wxyz.com/news/trump-threatens-to-withhold-michigan-funding-after-states-decision-to-mail-absentee-ballot-applications

Someone please tell me again how Biden and Trump are literally the same.

They're not.

But the fact that both of them are apparently the "best of us" in the eyes of the two parties is beyond infuriating.

Who has said that about either person? :confused
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« Reply #58275 on: May 20, 2020, 01:29:38 PM »
I don't think anyone here has daid they are literally the same, only that they both advocate maintaining a status quo that fails to address in any meaningful way the bulk of changes that Americans desperately need (such as medicare for all and the reduction of income inequality), or in the case of reducing carbon emissions, that the world desperately needs.

http://www.thebore.com/forum/index.php?topic=47304.msg2843492#msg2843492

Multiple people have asked me,"is your life really different than 2016?"

Biden formed a team of two people known their climate change knowledge in charge of a climate team. Democrats aren't perfect but treat climate change with much more speed and seriousness.
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« Reply #58276 on: May 20, 2020, 01:46:54 PM »
But how many voters care that Biden has created a team of 2 people to deal with climate issues when there's a pandemic going on?
I feel that's the problem with Democrats in general, they keep focusing on things that only their core voter base really cares about.
See also social democrats in Europe.
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« Reply #58277 on: May 20, 2020, 01:48:22 PM »
I feel that's the problem with Democrats in general, they keep focusing on things that only their core voter base really cares about.

sounds like something which might cost them the House, eh?

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« Reply #58278 on: May 20, 2020, 01:50:54 PM »
But how many voters care that Biden has created a team of 2 people to deal with climate issues when there's a pandemic going on?
I feel that's the problem with Democrats in general, they keep focusing on things that only their core voter base really cares about.
See also social democrats in Europe.

It's not a 2 person team. One of them also happens to be a prominent progressive that identified herself as Democratic socialist. Biden is actually out there extending olive branches.

Although anecdotal, many I've seen have gone from "I'm reluctant to vote for Biden" to "I'm excited to vote for Biden" which is something I never saw from Hillary.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-biden-climate/democrat-ocasio-cortez-to-lead-biden-climate-change-panel-with-kerry-idUSKBN22P0F8
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« Reply #58279 on: May 20, 2020, 02:00:14 PM »
https://www.wxyz.com/news/trump-threatens-to-withhold-michigan-funding-after-states-decision-to-mail-absentee-ballot-applications

Someone please tell me again how Biden and Trump are literally the same.

They're not.

But the fact that both of them are apparently the "best of us" in the eyes of the two parties is beyond infuriating.

Who has said that about either person? :confused

Well Trump is president and Biden is the presumptive nominee thanks to the DNC, so apparently there is no one better for the job in the eyes of the parties.

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« Reply #58280 on: May 20, 2020, 02:11:46 PM »
I like reading careposts.  :lol

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« Reply #58281 on: May 20, 2020, 02:13:12 PM »
I like caring and karakanding  :heart
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« Reply #58282 on: May 20, 2020, 02:21:15 PM »
https://twitter.com/SenCoryGardner/status/1263138698708889606

swing state incumbent being absolutely hung out to dry by his leadership

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« Reply #58283 on: May 20, 2020, 02:23:56 PM »
he should @ trump

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« Reply #58284 on: May 20, 2020, 02:32:32 PM »
ideology's a hell of a drug

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« Reply #58285 on: May 20, 2020, 02:35:35 PM »
dog shitlibs  ;)
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« Reply #58286 on: May 20, 2020, 02:38:58 PM »


She should have went back to ignoring him after the scathing comment about his weight. It's all getting very much 'no u' reactionary.
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« Reply #58287 on: May 20, 2020, 02:44:35 PM »
he's coming out looking better after being all "I don't think about that woman"

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e: wait I can't find a source for that doo aside from the freep/dailymail circle

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« Reply #58288 on: May 20, 2020, 02:45:03 PM »
In a different universe Nancy is yelling at Donald for being better at Bingo than she is.
"Settle down everybody I'm trying to hear what President Jeb has to say", nurse Warren says as Mr. Yang operates the Bingo machine.
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« Reply #58289 on: May 20, 2020, 02:49:47 PM »
McConnell leaning towards a policy of austerity in the last half year before an election seems crazy, then you realize that Trump is specifically threatening to defund swing states.

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« Reply #58290 on: May 20, 2020, 02:52:14 PM »
Isn't tightening the wallet and paying your credit card bill like a good household what they always use?

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« Reply #58291 on: May 20, 2020, 02:55:55 PM »
drumpfff is fat!!! hes a shiddy poopy pants who eats mcdonalds!!

if trump loses this will be scientifically proven as good praxis

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« Reply #58292 on: May 20, 2020, 03:04:10 PM »
https://twitter.com/Independent/status/1263132098912804866


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BEASTS tend to get dirty  :trumps
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« Reply #58293 on: May 20, 2020, 03:04:44 PM »
It's probably a good thing that most high school American History classes run out of time before they get past the 1980's.


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« Reply #58294 on: May 20, 2020, 03:20:43 PM »
McConnell leaning towards a policy of austerity in the last half year before an election seems crazy, then you realize that Trump is specifically threatening to defund swing states.
A state with no money can't organize an election  :rollsafe

In other news
https://twitter.com/CBSNews/status/1262891996047441921
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« Reply #58295 on: May 20, 2020, 03:28:44 PM »
https://twitter.com/Independent/status/1263132098912804866


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this must be very embarrassing for shosta

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« Reply #58296 on: May 20, 2020, 03:43:24 PM »
You're a worthless genetic failure and your existence alone disproves the theory of intelligent design.
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« Reply #58297 on: May 20, 2020, 03:56:06 PM »
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KANSAS CITY, Mo. (AP) — A Republican congressman from Kansas who is also a doctor says he has been taking a malaria drug being touted by President Donald Trump as a way to protect against the coronavirus, despite warnings that it could have potentially fatal side effects.

U.S. Rep. Roger Marshall, who is running for the U.S. Senate, said he doesn't have COVID-19 but is taking hydroxychloroquine as a preventative drug. His parents, siblings and wife also are taking the drug, a spokesman for Marshall told The Kansas City Star on Tuesday.

“I would encourage any person over the age of 65 or with an underlying medical condition to talk to their own physician about taking hydroxychloroquine and I’m relieved President Trump is taking it,” Marshall told The Wall Street Journal, which first reported the congressman's use of the drug.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/kansas-gop-congressman-using-malaria-181006961.html

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« Reply #58298 on: May 20, 2020, 04:02:57 PM »
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KANSAS CITY, Mo. (AP) — A Republican congressman from Kansas who is also a doctor says he has been taking a malaria drug being touted by President Donald Trump as a way to protect against the coronavirus, despite warnings that it could have potentially fatal side effects.

U.S. Rep. Roger Marshall, who is running for the U.S. Senate, said he doesn't have COVID-19 but is taking hydroxychloroquine as a preventative drug. His parents, siblings and wife also are taking the drug, a spokesman for Marshall told The Kansas City Star on Tuesday.

“I would encourage any person over the age of 65 or with an underlying medical condition to talk to their own physician about taking hydroxychloroquine and I’m relieved President Trump is taking it,” Marshall told The Wall Street Journal, which first reported the congressman's use of the drug.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/kansas-gop-congressman-using-malaria-181006961.html

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« Reply #58299 on: May 20, 2020, 04:09:33 PM »
good thread
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« Reply #58301 on: May 20, 2020, 04:56:36 PM »
https://twitter.com/Independent/status/1263132098912804866


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this must be very embarrassing for shosta


which number is stost rn? :kermit
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« Reply #58302 on: May 20, 2020, 05:26:02 PM »


I need to stop shitting up the politic!  :walkaway
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« Reply #58303 on: May 20, 2020, 05:33:12 PM »
What's the quote? Your heroes will always fail you?

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« Reply #58304 on: May 20, 2020, 05:34:48 PM »
the shid always rolls down ballot  :biden
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« Reply #58306 on: May 20, 2020, 06:16:47 PM »
I feel like I unlocked the ninth gate of enlightenment, I feel like this was the spiritual awakening I needed to live my best life.

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« Reply #58307 on: May 20, 2020, 06:46:47 PM »
https://twitter.com/Independent/status/1263132098912804866


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« Reply #58308 on: May 20, 2020, 06:53:54 PM »
https://twitter.com/SenCoryGardner/status/1263138698708889606

swing state incumbent being absolutely hung out to dry by his leadership

You know who is gonna be high on the "fuck you" list all year? Stacy Abrams and Beto. If they had done the logical thing, ie run for senate, they'd be leading or in contention right now, and we'd be looking at closer to 55-56 seats than 53-54.

For the life of me I can't understand what Abrams is doing. Whether Biden wins or loses, she's gonna be relegated to MSNBC appearances and a lackluster book tour. I of course am assuming there's no way in hell she gets VP.
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« Reply #58309 on: May 20, 2020, 06:55:32 PM »
https://twitter.com/JordanUhl/status/1263234146337525762

He was talking about left wing antisemitism as well

Can you imagine if Bernie wasn't Jewish

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« Reply #58311 on: May 20, 2020, 06:59:21 PM »
https://twitter.com/SenCoryGardner/status/1263138698708889606

swing state incumbent being absolutely hung out to dry by his leadership

You know who is gonna be high on the "fuck you" list all year? Stacy Abrams and Beto. If they had done the logical thing, ie run for senate, they'd be leading or in contention right now, and we'd be looking at closer to 55-56 seats than 53-54.

For the life of me I can't understand what Abrams is doing. Whether Biden wins or loses, she's gonna be relegated to MSNBC appearances and a lackluster book tour. I of course am assuming there's no way in hell she gets VP.
Probably still in play for a cabinet level post. Maybe secretary of something or Chief of Staff or whatever.
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« Reply #58314 on: May 20, 2020, 07:17:58 PM »
https://twitter.com/sahilkapur/status/1263216996432384000

Joe Biden has quite the audience  :doge

So about the same numbers as Ninja these days, just with more corporate sponsors  :rodney
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« Reply #58315 on: May 20, 2020, 08:23:02 PM »
shid>shahid ;)
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« Reply #58316 on: May 20, 2020, 08:25:22 PM »
gillum still in play? his meth sex BBC bull activities would secure my vote  :whew
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« Reply #58318 on: May 20, 2020, 10:39:49 PM »
I just had 3 glasses of wine again.... anyone wanna... jk haha.. unless..

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« Reply #58319 on: May 20, 2020, 10:51:15 PM »
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