US Politics Thread |OT| SAD TRUMP

[Human Snorenado]

It's almost like the President is a very thin skinned man with an obsession for recognition that borders on the unhealthy. Too bad no one could have known that before the election!

[agrajag]

lol his avatar looks like a pouting babby

[Pwnz]

The press greatly mislead the public on Trayvon Martin

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https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/934189999045693441

 

 

 

[VomKriege]

Trump cutting off arms shipments to Kurdish militants in Syria.

He was going to be PKK Magazine Person Of The Year but thanks anyway !

[Broseidon]

Hasn't the US line always been that they aren't sending weapons and equipment to Totally Not The PKK and instead Arab units in the SDF anyway?

[Valhelm]

Hasn't the US line always been that they aren't sending weapons and equipment to Totally Not The PKK and instead Arab units in the SDF anyway?

Pretty much. The YPG and PKK are not really distinguishable, because the YPG was formed by PKK members in Syria and includes a hell of a lot of people born in Turkey or trained in Turkey. American socialist Brace Belden, who fought in Syria for several years against ISIS, suggests that he was transported and partially trained directly by the PKK, and not a YPG affiliate.

In 2015 the US created the Syrian Democratic Forces to be something like a shell corporation -- a way for the government to fund PKK affiliates without violating any of our promises to Turkey. While there are a lot of fully-Arab units in the SDF, coordination between these local units and the YPG (and possibly with hardened PKK veterans from Turkey) is very thick and the SDF makes an effort to introduce these groups to their libertarian socialist worldview.

By apparently acknowledging the inseparability of the YPG and PKK Trump is being unusually honest here, but only because he's trying to appease Turkish politicians who have genocidal ambitions toward Kurds.

[benjipwns]

rather than a 2016 primary debate the thread really fell into a George Zimmerman one? this is why Peter abandoned us for ResetEra to post under the username Phoenix Dark

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it's hard to make a decent argument that zimmerman feared for his life to the point of using deadly force in justified self defense and martin didn't

especially when you consider of the participants AND witnesses only one of them is alive to give their account, and in that account they've openly admitted to wanting to escalate a situation to the use of force

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[benjipwns]

President Donald Trump could be on track to spend as much as triple the time former President Barack Obama did on the golf course in his first year in office -- and to play more than former President George W. Bush did in eight years in office.

Trump spent Saturday at his Trump International Golf Club in West Palm Beach, marking the 81st day that the President has visited one of his golf courses -- and his fourth straight day at a club. A law enforcement source said Trump played with golf legend Jack Nicklaus, a longtime supporter of the President.

It is unclear, however, whether Trump golfs each day he visits a course or how many rounds he plays when he does. White House aides rarely confirm that the President is golfing, but Trump did so himself on Friday, announcing that he was playing with golfing stars Tiger Woods and Dustin Johnson.

By comparison, Obama played 333 rounds of golf during his eight years in office and at this point in the first year of his term had played 26 rounds, according to Mark Knoller of CBS News, who keeps detailed statistics of presidencies.

Knoller told CNN that Bush played only 24 rounds of golf as President and stopped playing golf after October 13, 2003, after he was criticized for golfing while the nation was at war. At this point in his presidency, Bush had golfed seven times.

JOURNALISM

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clearly we're seeing the effects of rampant inflation from all the debt created by the Fed turn up in the data for Presidential rounds of golf

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[Valhelm]

I should be so used to this by now, but the golf thing really pisses me off because the hypocrisy is so transparent

[Trurl]

What's it like for a person like Trump to play with world-class golfers?  Wouldn't it be frustrating?

[kingv]

Doesn’t he claim to shoot like 68? That would make it not so frustrating, though I doubt that is actually true.

[Phoenix Dark]

Given Trump's consumption of fake news, I'm gonna assume he really believes Obama was playing golf nonstop

[chronovore]

The press greatly mislead the public on Trayvon Martin

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https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/934189999045693441

https://twitter.com/thatRamosgirl/status/934271377955209217

[chronovore]

http://www.newsweek.com/2017/12/01/neo-nazi-furries-trump-latest-alt-right-supporters-718113.html

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[benjipwns]

latest? i'm pretty sure that's like a two year old story, fucking newsweek trash fake news garbage

also haven't neo-nazi's (and communists now that i think about it) always been overrepresented in the furries? i seem to remember an extended story on this years ago because some con descended into political fighting

[benjipwns]

Shamsul Khan · Works at Chembur
ROTFLMAO! I can't believe this article actually exists and is not some elaborate prank or April Fool's day joke. Could you get any more niche than an alt-right section of a furry fandom community? That's like looking for freaks within a group of freaks!

It might even make some sense if this was a brief mention or a two-paragraph piece on "hatred" within a community. But to treat it like a serious journalisitic enceavour with the amount of copy dedicated to it is just PLAIN INSANE. FakeNewsweak has officially lost its marbles!

Grant Fikes ·
Great hit piece, NewsWEAK. Now mention the equally deplorable commie furs who want to "shoot some fascists and use centrists as target practice". Or are you comsymps?

I hate #BothSides. I just want cute cartoon animals without hateful artwork of Deo punching Foxler and QuQu raping Deo.

Nerdbomber McTerror
Furries are a marginalized group that the democrats have ignored for decades. It was only a matter of time before they'd rally behind a movement that would give them a voice.

Cani Lupine · Fursuiter at Fursuiter
As a furry of 11 years, I'd like to see BOTH sides shunned from the fandom. This is getting absolutely ridiculous, and conventions are getting shut down because of BOTH sides.
The alt-right preaches hate, and the alt-left preaches violence. There is no room for either of those groups in the Furry fandom.

Brenda L. Burks-Finley · West Los Angeles Baptist
PLEASE ALSO NOTE: This is a small MINORITY of the furry community... most of these folks are just the average joe who enjoy this particular fandom. There are many more who are not "Alt-Right" or any other version of this partiuclar group.

Henry Joseph Thiel · Owner Operator at Furry Fuel Energy Drink
1) Furrydelphia isn't the city's first Furry convention
2) Deo never went to the cops
3) Incorrect name for Junius (Although this seems to be corrected)
4) RMFC was already having complaints about Raider behavior before Deo became involved.

Derek Marler · San Jose, California
These are a minority in a largely left leaning community. Even the more conservative members of the fandom do not endorse or approve of these rejects.

Matthew Parmentier · El Paso, Texas
The crazy thing is that furry communists don't understand irony just as much as altfurries don't either. In a left-wing world where the state dictates morality then people like furries would be killed off, just like homosexuals, etc, etc (just as we've seen repeated many, many times before throughout recent history).

To be honest, I don't see a problem with someone liking anthropomorphic artwork or literature. I don't mind reading a gripping sci-fi space opera where the two main characters are humans or furries. Why? Good artwork is good artwork, and a good story is a good story. It's an escape from reality, and that is good when you need it because sometimes reality sucks and it feels good to run off to a happy place and just relax. Where I do draw the line is when people try to retreat so far into this happy place that it becomes their reality. No, you are not a fox-dragon-wolf-sheep futa trapped in an human's body.

Don't be silly.

I also find it very sad that the supposedly best ideologies (Communisim and National Socialist White Supremacists) have to dig into the easily impressionable underbelly of the furry fandom to recruit....

"- Can't convince your middle class white friend that whites should rule the world?"

"- Can't convince a middle class black friend that white people are the cause of all of his problems and because of that he'll never be rich as long as the bougoise are around?"

"- Well then come on down to Billy WolfHorseDragonNob's Furry Emporium! We've got all of the young, impressionable people you'll need in order to bring about the second coming (lol) of the 3rd Reich or reboot Comrade Stalin and Mao's Glorious Proletariat Murder Machine! We can almost guarantee you that everyone who'll be here will be lacking self-confidence and have severe grounding issues. Sure, tey might believe that they're anything but human, but that doesn't matter when you can just toss their bodies in a pit when they've outlived their usefulness, right?"

"- So what are you waiting for!? You can't do Hilter proud while you're sitting on the side lines, and Chairman Mao will be rolling over in his grave if you don't start spreading the masterfully crafted propaganda of Communism! Come down and find yourself some weak minded people to brainwash today!"

newsWEAK SHOULDA THOUGHT OF THAT!

[chronovore]

https://twitter.com/CNNPR/status/934559957713932290

[Joe Molotov]

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/935147410472480769

Huge if true.

[VomKriege]

Your favorite President (me).

[VomKriege]

Guitry used to say that when you were just done listening to Mozart, the following silence was also his. I think Trump will prove that even after his time in office, he'll own the noise too.

[Brehvolution]

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/935147410472480769

Huge if true.

Of course he doesn't want to include fox. They would win by a country mile.

[zomgee]

I wish Besada would reply to him.

[kingv]

latest? i'm pretty sure that's like a two year old story, fucking newsweek trash fake news garbage

also haven't neo-nazi's (and communists now that i think about it) always been overrepresented in the furries? i seem to remember an extended story on this years ago because some con descended into political fighting

I like to think neo nazi furries always present as cats, because they drink milk.

[CatsCatsCats]

Doesn’t every mammal?

[benjipwns]

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/11/24/2020-year-of-woman-democrats-post-weinstein-kamala-harris-klobuchar-gillibrand-warren-215860

In this post-Weinstein moment, Democrats are pining for the karmic justice of defeating Trump with shards from a glass ceiling. Here’s how it could happen.

Weirdly the article seems to not even mention popular vote winner Hillary Clinton especially as an ideal candidate due to her unmatched record of qualifications in human history.

The unquenched desire to break the White House glass ceiling and diminished tolerance for misogynistic behavior complicates the 2020 presidential primary for any male candidate. Whereas in 2008, Obama’s condescending “you’re likable enough” remark to Clinton could contribute to the loss of a single state, this time around it could immediately kill a primary candidacy dead. A mishandled case of sexual harassment by a campaign aide wouldn’t become a post-election footnote, but a real-time calamity. And every man seeking the Oval Office will need to answer one straightforward question: Why should someone vote for you over a well-qualified woman?

I doubt any of this silliness will bother 2020 frontrunner Terry McAuliffe.

[benjipwns]

https://twitter.com/LoJackson94/status/933744438718771200

[Syph]

>Calling wacky Elizabeth Warren 'Pocahantas' at event honoring Native American code talkers

 

what is this timeline

[agrajag]

What's the backstory of Trump calling her Pocahontas?

[Great Rumbler]

What's the backstory of Trump calling her Pocahontas?

There was some hay raised at one point where Warren talked about having Native American ancestry but then no one could actually verify it and she ended up saying that it was family story that had been passed down and she couldn't prove it was actually true. Virtually no one else has talked about this in years, but Trump gonna Trump.

[zomgee]

What's the backstory of Trump calling her Pocahontas?

Once upon a time Donald Trump was a shit stain.

The end.

[Joe Molotov]

What's the backstory of Trump calling her Pocahontas?

She said that she had Native American ancestry (many people from Oklahoma do) but other people have disputed it (because lol she looks white to me, where’s her braids and tommyhawk) and said that she just used that to get into Harvard.

[agrajag]

Have the game so rigged against white ppl that you have to lie about being a minority to get into an Ivy League brehs 

[Syph]

What's the backstory of Trump calling her Pocahontas?

she identifies as 200% native american
Elizabeth Warren/Rachel Dolezal 2020

[benjipwns]

That was just where she wound up teaching after 20 years in academia, her JD is from Rutgers and her BS from Houston, SAD!

[Mr. Gundam]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/a-woman-approached-the-post-with-dramatic--and-false--tale-about-roy-moore-sje-appears-to-be-part-of-undercover-sting-operation/2017/11/27/0c2e335a-cfb6-11e7-9d3a-bcbe2af58c3a_story.html



JAMES O'KEEFE

James O'Keefe is a gigantic piece of shit. Now we also know he's dumb as shit. They did a terrible job with their cover story and thought they could pull one over on the Post?

[Great Rumbler]

[zomgee]

Embarrassing.

Pimp hat embarrassing.

[Raist]

So the Post did not believe a woman? This is problematic.

[zomgee]

If only they had gone to Buzzfeed or Shareblue...


Ah well. Next time I'm sure it'll work.

[Human Snorenado]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/a-woman-approached-the-post-with-dramatic--and-false--tale-about-roy-moore-sje-appears-to-be-part-of-undercover-sting-operation/2017/11/27/0c2e335a-cfb6-11e7-9d3a-bcbe2af58c3a_story.html



JAMES O'KEEFE

James O'Keefe is a gigantic piece of shit. Now we also know he's dumb as shit. They did a terrible job with their cover story and thought they could pull one over on the Post?

When you genuinely believe that the media only exists to persecute conservatives, why ascribe any investigative prowess to them, amirite???

[thehunter116]

Comcast already lining up to fastrack "fastlanes".

 Congrats 4chan/Pol, you got what you asked for  

[Joe Molotov]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/a-woman-approached-the-post-with-dramatic--and-false--tale-about-roy-moore-sje-appears-to-be-part-of-undercover-sting-operation/2017/11/27/0c2e335a-cfb6-11e7-9d3a-bcbe2af58c3a_story.html



JAMES O'KEEFE

James O'Keefe is a gigantic piece of shit. Now we also know he's dumb as shit. They did a terrible job with their cover story and thought they could pull one over on the Post?

When you genuinely believe that the media only exists to persecute conservatives, why ascribe any investigative prowess to them, amirite???

How do we know that this isn’t the Post making up a story to smear O’Keefe. I got an offer of a $1000 just last week to pretend to get a Project Veritas employee that was really stupid and incompetent.

[Tasty]

Subscribed to the Post just to read that article.

[zomgee]

Subscribed to the Post just to read that article.

I subscribed after reading it.

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[Great Rumbler]

Subscribed to the Post just to read that article.

You could have just opened the article in an incognito browser window.

[Tasty]

I'd rather support journalism.

[Phoenix Dark]

They really believe the WaPo sits around making shit up, not vetting sources, and releasing anything that enters their email file.

[zomgee]

lets try and catch them doing what we do all the time

[seagrams hotsauce]

I gotta start checking that Project Veritas facebook page. Seems like an interesting gig, plus your bosses are dumber than hell. Also would be kinda fun to fold like a cheap suit the second anyone questioned the veracity of my cover story

[MIMIC]

That "Fake News Trophy" tweet Trump made actually made me laugh. He really just does not give a damn. He's a clown that somehow got to be President.

[Brehvolution]

I saw a tweet saying that O'Queef made $317,000 last year. Such ROI. 

[Brehvolution]

Fake a rape story to try to discredit actual sexual assaults, brehs.

[Madrun Badrun]

TBH I think the idea of testing credibility of newspapers is not a bad thing - it just would be nice to come from people who do not have a motive.

[Joe Molotov]

I thought Trump was going to end the War on Christmas.

[FStop7]

Well the trees are all white. 

[kingv]

What's the backstory of Trump calling her Pocahontas?

She said that she had Native American ancestry (many people from Oklahoma do) but other people have disputed it (because lol she looks white to me, where’s her braids and tommyhawk) and said that she just used that to get into Harvard.

Real talk I have Native American ancestry (that I. Can prove and look white) and my grandfather had obviously much more than me, and Tribal affiliation and more or less looked white. Further, my dad was in the military with a dude who was 100% African American that not only passed for White in a pinch, but was often asked why he checked the boxes for African American on everything when he was clearly white.

At which point he would point to family pictures in his wallet (when people still did such things) and show all of his clearly obviously black family members. I know the dude and he does look pretty white, so I don’t know if his mom liked to play in the snow or what.

[Mr. Gundam]

I'm 1/4 Ottawa and on the tribal rolls. I'm a super pale white dude. My grandpa is full-blooded Ottawa and grew up on the reservation in Oklahoma before moving out to Washington state as a teenager. He looks Italian. [shrug]

[sinxtanx]

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I thought Trump was going to end the War on Christmas.

it's a metaphor for the branch of government they occupy

[Mandark]

A lot of white-seeming people from the southwest claim native heritage.

It's been used against Warren to show that she must have been an affirmative action case, cause anyone listed as non-white is presumed to have a huge advantage in academia. Which is obviously not the case but y'know.

[agrajag]

NK just tested another ballistic missile.