US Politics Thread |OT| SAD TRUMP

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*alright

[Tripon]

I had to look up the actual quote that got Ilhan in trouble this time.

And I did it the dumbest way possible.

https://www.msnbc.com/all-in/watch/any-discussion-of-rep-ilhan-omar-should-begin-should-start-with-trump-1452739139609



How the fuck did she get in trouble with this?

[Mandark]

dawg

[benjipwns]

[Kunai With Chain]

You could just see the Bernie bro wanting to punch the lights out of that chick as soon as she started yammering on about him being divisive at minute 2. 

[benjipwns]

I liked her preplanned slogan: "I'm looking for a candidate that's going to keep us alive and pull us together."

Which is apparently Cory Booker, maybe Beto.

[Tripon]

Dallas Mavericks owner Mark Cuban told the New York Daily News Monday that he has not ruled out a 2020 presidential run and that if he follows through, he will do so without political affiliation.

If he does, he would become the second prominent billionaire to consider a third-party run for the White House in an election that is expected to be a referendum on the Donald Trump presidency.

Former Starbucks CEO Howard Schultz has talked repeatedly about his intent to run as a third-party candidate, ignoring critics who have castigated his decision for having the potential to split Democratic-leaning votes while accomplishing little else.

A Cuban run would likely draw the same kind of blowback.

Cuban: ‘We’ll see what happens’
“I haven’t decided anything yet,” Cuban told the Daily News. “We’ll see what happens. It all comes down to how things play out. It’s not something I feel like I have to do. ... But it’s something that if circumstances were right I would do.”

Cuban criticized the Democratic party for what he sees as a group that’s more focused on appealing to its base than independents and Republicans.

“If you look at the Democrats right now, there’s like a democratic gravity that pulls all the candidates to the same point,” Cuban said. “And it’s very difficult to show leadership in a situation like that because you can’t truly lead if you have to find an equilibrium between being a true leader for the people of your country vs. getting elected in your primary.

“None of those things are conducive to out-and-out leading the country.”

Cuban’s potential political pitfalls
If Cuban does run, he’ll likely face increased scrutiny for the culture of sexual harassment and misconduct that existed within the Mavericks and prompted an apology and a $10 million donation to women’s causes, as well as a 2011 sexual assault accusation against Cuban himself from an alleged incident at a Portland, Oregon night club.

Police investigated Cuban for the 2011 incident in which a woman said Cuban “thrust his hand down the back of her jeans and penetrated her vagina with his finger” while they were posing for a photograph.

Cuban denied the allegation and was not charged due to insufficient evidence.

Cuban: Voters don’t want a politician
If he runs, Cuban wants to appeal to voters who don’t want a politician in office, a strategy he believes helped Trump win office in 2016.

“People weren’t voting for (Trump in 2016) because he was calling people names, they were voting for him because he was not a politician, and he was demonstrating to everyone that he wasn’t a politician,” Cuban told the Daily News.

“A big chunk of voters, Republican voters, still want someone who is not a politician. And you’re not getting that from anyone in the Democratic Party.”

This is not the first time Cuban has alluded to the 2020 election. In 2017, he also told reporters “we’ll see what happens” when he talked to NFL Network’s Rich Eisen about a potential White House bid.

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/mavericks-owner-mark-cuban-considering-3-rdparty-presidential-run-for-2020-053532557.html

 

[benjipwns]

If Cuban does run, he’ll likely face increased scrutiny for the culture of sexual harassment and misconduct that existed within the Mavericks and prompted an apology and a $10 million donation to women’s causes, as well as a 2011 sexual assault accusation against Cuban himself from an alleged incident at a Portland, Oregon night club.

Police investigated Cuban for the 2011 incident in which a woman said Cuban “thrust his hand down the back of her jeans and penetrated her vagina with his finger” while they were posing for a photograph.

not to mention that time he murdered Skip Bayless on live TV

[kingv]

they should put that "please russia please" sound bite into every attack ad during the 2020 campaign tbh

There’s a great attack waiting for Democrats that’s just clips of trump looking like he has dementia.

[Mandark]

Cuban should be paying reparations to Dirk.

[benjipwns]

the ongoing thing where everyone in management/media/etc. is "Dirk's Final Season" while Dirk is all "not sure I'm retiring yet" is a quality subplot of this season

[Occam]

they should put that "please russia please" sound bite into every attack ad during the 2020 campaign tbh

There’s a great attack waiting for Democrats that’s just clips of trump looking like he has dementia.

What do you mean, "looking like"?

[Great Rumbler]

Cubes at least has some personality, unlike Schultz.

Cuban should be paying reparations to Dirk.

There's almost certainly an empty office at Mav's headquarters waiting for Dirk as soon as he finally retires. Or at least there should be.

[Brehvolution]

Cuban criticized the Democrats for not trying to appeal to... Republicans.

The media does this all the time.

[benjipwns]

Glenn Beck is complaining about how Stephen Crowder's subreddit or someother got shut down so he's demanding the government "NOT GROW OR GAIN POWER" but instead simply REGULATE and take away Reddit/Twitter/YouTube/etc.'s status as "PLATFORMS" so they aren't allowed by law to ban anyone or else they have to become "PUBLISHERS" so they aren't exempt legally from what's posted.

I have no idea what he's actually mad about and probably should have looked up the slightest amount of this for you guys who are demanding real reporting from me.

[benjipwns]

i guess? i dunno? copyright claims?

spoiler (click to show/hide)

https://twitter.com/scrowder/status/1103027221315420161

https://twitter.com/scrowder/status/1103068403881828352

https://twitter.com/scrowder/status/1103090606417592320

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[benjipwns]

more importantly, Glenn Beck is turning into...YUM! BRANDS COLONEL SANDERS

[benjipwns]

oh i guess it's related to the twitter people on joe rogan, where they secretly accidentally revealed they ban people from twitter

[benjipwns]

also now is the time to refinance your home to pay for your subscription to the blaze where all the content creators THEY don't want you to hear are headed to

[Mandark]

the ongoing thing where everyone in management/media/etc. is "Dirk's Final Season" while Dirk is all "not sure I'm retiring yet" is a quality subplot of this season

Remember when Paul Pierce announced it was his final season and Draymond Green taunted him for wanting a retirement tour like Kobe but "they don't love you like that"?

It's basically the opposite of that with Dirk.

[Brehvolution]

RWNJ reeeeeeeing about social media "censorship" gives me life.

[ToxicAdam]

>Commerce Department reported that in 2018 the U.S. trade deficit grew to $621 billion, a 10-year high, and the gap with China set a record — defying the president’s vows to reverse the trend.


Whoops.

[Joe Molotov]

the ongoing thing where everyone in management/media/etc. is "Dirk's Final Season" while Dirk is all "not sure I'm retiring yet" is a quality subplot of this season

Remember when Paul Pierce announced it was his final season and Draymond Green taunted him for wanting a retirement tour like Kobe but "they don't love you like that"?

It's basically the opposite of that with Dirk.

Everyone in Dallas is praying for him to retire and not make it weird. Nobody wants a Brett Favre situation. 

[Kunai With Chain]

https://twitter.com/katiezez/status/1102934767740305409

Political discourse these days is really something else, people dying leaving last words of regret about not seeing Mueller's report... 

While Democrats are withholding release of spoilers for the Mueller report on dying people, Trump is getting on front page of BBC doing stuff like this:
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-47461006

A terminally ill man in Connecticut has received his dying wish of speaking to US President Donald Trump in a surprise phone call.

No wonder the MAGA agenda keeps winning

[Joe Molotov]

One less MAGA voter. Thanks, CIA Deep State cancer gun.

[Brehvolution]

That guy is in for a rude surprise at the pearly gates.

[Kunai With Chain]

One less MAGA voter. Thanks, CIA Deep State cancer gun.

The doctor only giving him 6 month but him planning to last until he can vote next year reminds me of the microwave scene in MGS 4.

[Nintex]

"Yeah that's what the Irish do - you better believe it," the president said, adding that he wished Mr Barrett could come to a rally and complimenting his "great" sister.

Trump trying to have a terminally ill cancer patient bring his sister to meet him is so on brand

[agrajag]

well, I did it. I donated to the Andrew Yang 2020 campaign.

 

[Joe Molotov]

Now you should donate an equal amount to the Andrew Yin campaign.

[Brehvolution]

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-democrats-fox/democrats-bar-fox-news-from-televising-debates-after-reported-trump-ties-idUSKCN1QN2F9
 

[Nola]

Good

[agrajag]

https://twitter.com/AndrewYangVFA/status/1103391541031305216

Yang da gawd

[Nintex]

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-democrats-fox/democrats-bar-fox-news-from-televising-debates-after-reported-trump-ties-idUSKCN1QN2F9
 

It was so weird to watch the media change allegiances in each stage of the Trump saga.

Primaries:
Supporting Trump: Morning Joe, CNN
Against Trump: MSNBC
Lukewarm on Trump: Fox News, Breitbart, Colbert, Russia Today

General Election:
Supporting Trump: CNN(but her e-mails and the panels), Breitbart, Russia Today
Against Trump: Colbert, MSNBC
Lukewarm on Trump: Fox News, Morning Joe

After election
Supporting Trump: Fox News
Against Trump: Colbert, Morning Joe, CNN, MSNBC, Russia Today
Lukewarm on Trump: Breitbart

And even now part of Fox News is conflicted. 

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https://theintercept.com/2019/02/28/exclusive-ilhan-omar-speaks-out-on-her-twitter-scandal-anti-semitism-and-a-progressive-foreign-policy/

MH: You don’t support your fellow Democrats and, like the U.S. government does and the Canadian government does, you don’t support the leader of the opposition as being the president right now, not present leader?

IO: Absolutely not.

 

[Nintex]

I thought the Democrats couldn't possibly lose to Trump in 2020 but they're really trying hard to find a path to do so. 

[TakingBackSunday]

yeah it sure is fucking hysterical

[james]

The way the Democrats have treated Omar have pushed me towards voting for Trump tbh

[Mandark]

 

[team filler]

who do you think taught trump how to play (((5D chess))) 

[Cream youll cave soon]

The way the Democrats have treated Omar have pushed me towards voting for Trump tbh

There’s that proof of racism you were looking for, hun. Thanks.

I knew if I waited you’d do the work for me

[Nintex]

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1103446552524345346

 

[agrajag]

random Trump dumbfuckery is pretty funny, however

https://twitter.com/briantylercohen/status/1103427647520927745

[Tripon]

https://twitter.com/sahilkapur/status/1103427923921551362

[kingv]

If we had an election cycle with no debates it would be a huge improvement. Debates are consistently dumb and useless.

[Tripon]

https://twitter.com/mattdpearce/status/1103451387268984833

[Tripon]

https://twitter.com/samstein/status/1103476960980799488

[agrajag]

(he did it by bribing everyone with free Game of Thrones subscriptions)

[CatsCatsCats]

NEETbux

I would be pro UBI so if that’s his stunt is and it makes it a serious national topic, good for him

[Occam]

Old, but America's real problem is this:




And as long as nothing is done about this, the Republican party, a party that is fighting against the common good, against nature and the future of this planet for the benefit of a select few, a party that under normal circumstances wouldn't be getting more than 10% of the popular vote will continue to get ~50%.

It doesn't matter how great a Democratic candidate is, or how bad a Republican is when half the population never hears about it.

[Nintex]

US has the same problem as every other country.
Wealth, power and fame are centralized in a few urban centers. A big part of the country is simply 'not cool' enough to care about and no one will credit a politician for fighting poverty in Pooptown Ohio. And all the people with the power would rather just focus on those thriving urban centers and support a popular vote. Trump got in their trucks, put on their hats and promoted their bible and that was enough.

Manipulative media is a symptom not the cause

[kingv]

Focusing on only big urban centers is a terrible political strategy in the US.

If anything the opposite is true here.

[Occam]

US has the same problem as every other country.
Wealth, power and fame are centralized in a few urban centers. A big part of the country is simply 'not cool' enough to care about and no one will credit a politician for fighting poverty in Pooptown Ohio. And all the people with the power would rather just focus on those thriving urban centers and support a popular vote. Trump got in their trucks, put on their hats and promoted their bible and that was enough.

Manipulative media is a symptom not the cause

I disagree with your conclusion. It took the Republican party more than 40 years of southern strategy to reach a level of public brainwashing allowing for a clown and obvious conman like Trump to be elected. Those parts of the free world without strong right-wing propaganda network in place overwhelmingly recognize Trump as the dangerous moron he is. In the U.S., roughly half the population doesn't. Trump wouldn't have stood a chance anywhere else in the world.

[Cream youll cave soon]

Focusing on only big urban centers is a terrible political strategy in the US.

If anything the opposite is true here.

The problem is; what does it mean to focus on the people outside of urban centers in the US?

They are a combination of complete idiots who vote outside of their own interests abd single issue (abortion) / religious voters. 

They are far outnumbered but then you have the electoral college, and the fact that the Senate gives huge amounts of power to States that barely even have urban centers. 

It's just completely fucked, we are doomed to be saddled with these idiots and their elected officials.

Lol sounds like we should have let that whole reconstruction thing happen as planned huh

[Occam]

Focusing on only big urban centers is a terrible political strategy in the US.

If anything the opposite is true here.

The problem is; what does it mean to focus on the people outside of urban centers in the US?

They are a combination of complete idiots who vote outside of their own interests abd single issue (abortion) / religious voters. 

They are far outnumbered but then you have the electoral college, and the fact that the Senate gives huge amounts of power to States that barely even have urban centers. 

It's just completely fucked, we are doomed to be saddled with these idiots and their elected officials.

Lol sounds like we should have let that whole reconstruction thing happen as planned huh

That certainly seems to be one of the root causes. Lincoln's assassination and his awful vice-president really screwed the U.S.

[Occam]

Anyway, the Republican party heavily relies on three undemocratic means to secure the presidency:
Gerrymandering, voter supression and a strong propaganda network. Without these, George H. W. Bush would have been the last Republican president of the past 25 years.
And look how close it was both for George W and Trump despite these means.

[Nola]

Focusing on only big urban centers is a terrible political strategy in the US.

If anything the opposite is true here.

The problem is; what does it mean to focus on the people outside of urban centers in the US?

They are a combination of complete idiots who vote outside of their own interests abd single issue (abortion) / religious voters. 

They are far outnumbered but then you have the electoral college, and the fact that the Senate gives huge amounts of power to States that barely even have urban centers. 

It's just completely fucked, we are doomed to be saddled with these idiots and their elected officials.

I honestly don't know why Democrats can't get a little more strategic minded about this shit and start pushing for things like statehood or representation for DC, Puerto Rico, and other territories? The re-emphasis on voting rights is good, but you got to do stuff to break down the Senate/electoral advantage that isn't going to just be solved with automatic voter registration.

Not only is it the morally right thing do, it would basically hand the Democrats a minimum of 4 new safe seats in the Senate.

[Nintex]

Biden may enter the race.
https://twitter.com/alexburnsNYT/status/1103666256568299521

It'll be the battle of the near 80 year olds. 

[james]

My policy is to never vote for anyone older than 62

[benjipwns]

Sherrod Brown not running, god damn it.