US Politics Thread |OT| SAD TRUMP

[Occam]

I think the betrayal of the SDF in Syria may be the worst thing Trump has done so far on an international scale (besides his climate change denial, of course).
This will lead to thousands of ISIS members running free and potentially millions more Syrians becoming refugees, while allowing Putin and Erdogan to take control of the Syrian oil and killing the Kurds who defeated the Islamic State.
This will have repercussions for years.
I wish Trump was removed from office this instant.

Reminder to the world that America doesn't have friends, only interests.

[james]

I think the betrayal of the SDF in Syria may be the worst thing Trump has done so far on an international scale (besides his climate change denial, of course).
This will lead to thousands of ISIS members running free and potentially millions more Syrians becoming refugees, while allowing Putin and Erdogan to take control of the Syrian oil and killing the Kurds who defeated the Islamic State.

All going according to plan.

[Tripon]

https://twitter.com/ddale8/status/1182031506237280257

[VomKriege]

"They didn't help us in the Second World War, they didn't help us with Normandy."

Also the winds of YouTube landed me on a video on how the Morning Joe hosts claimed on air they were blackmailed by the National Enquirer and the White House (a collaboration that was largely corroborated in later findings) to coerce an apology to the President. It's insane the shit Trump got away with that we memory holed because there's so much coming out every week.

[james]

"They didn't help us in the Second World War, they didn't help us with Normandy."

Are you suggesting that the Kurds did in fact assist with the landing at Normandy?

Huge if true

[VomKriege]

"They didn't help us in the Second World War, they didn't help us with Normandy."

Are you suggesting that the Kurds did in fact assist with the landing at Normandy?

Huge if true

Israel didn't even send an IDF platoon, sad.

[Occam]

Such great and unmatched wisdom.

[Madrun Badrun]

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-harry-dunn-anne-sacoolas-car-crash-us-diplomat-uk-a9149746.html?utm_source=reddit.com

guy in background SMH

[Joe Molotov]

"They didn't help us in the Second World War, they didn't help us with Normandy."

Are you suggesting that the Kurds did in fact assist with the landing at Normandy?

Huge if true

Well, they were aligned with Allied powers.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_of_Mahabad

[Joe Molotov]

https://mobile.twitter.com/lindseygrahamsc/status/1181941868206133248

Thoughts and prayers.

[Nintex]

I think the betrayal of the SDF in Syria may be the worst thing Trump has done so far on an international scale* (besides his climate change denial, of course).
This will lead to thousands of ISIS members running free and potentially millions more Syrians becoming refugees, while allowing Putin and Erdogan to take control of the Syrian oil and killing the Kurds who defeated the Islamic State.
This will have repercussions for years.
I wish Trump was removed from office this instant.

Reminder to the world that America doesn't have friends, only interests.

*today

[Cauliflower Of Love]

Lady on PBS public hour asks pompeo, "where's the proof that biden was doing something illegal?"

pompeo: Clearly you're woking with the dnc, huehuehue

Lady: I assure you we're not. Where's the proof?

pompeo: corruption is everywhere!

[Nintex]

US Presidents keep throwing away the car keys on Syria. It's pretty bizarre.

I mean, Trump's move to move about 50 soldiers only acting as human shields against a possible Turkish incursion out of Kurdland wasn't the 'big' thing here.
More shocking is the fact that he told the US military not to impose the no fly zone and allowed Turkey to bomb indiscriminately making the no fly zone null and void.

Without air cover Erdogan might've reconsidered. As 50 US troops can't do shit to stop Turkish tanks but without air cover it would've been much harder for the Turks to get an easy advantage over the kurds.
Trump surprisingly acted a lot like Obama here.


Hmm sounds like Trump's move might've been triggered by what he saw at Walter Reed on his last visit
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1182075837962690560

During the press conference he also mentioned the Afghan war was futile so I expect those bois will be back by Christmas also.

[james]

Donald the dove

 

[Joe Molotov]

Not exactly a bold position in 2019, tho. I guess maybe for a Republican it still is, but Trump's hardly a party loyalist.

A president flouting the State Department line isn't notable?

This president? 

[nachobro]

LOU DOBBS (HOST):  It's time to understand. We have got to kill our enemies. And we must change the way we think about the cost in every sense of the world. This country, the cost not to seek victory, and to find a final resolution of every conflict. Victory. What we can claim now is victory over ISIS, over Al Qaeda to this point. The Talib--

JACK KEANE: No we can't. That's not true.

DOBBS: I said we can claim -- I didn't say it was true. And we could have claimed at one point victory over the Taliban. What we are watching now is an inversion of everything that we intended.

https://www.mediamatters.org/lou-dobbs/lou-dobbs-i-said-we-can-claim-victory-over-isis-and-al-qaeda-i-didnt-say-it-was-true

[team filler]

kurds? more like turds! fuck the kurds!

[Trent Dole]

His towers in Istanbul might have something to do with his chosen actions here.

[bluemax]

https://twitter.com/Joie_de_Vivre__/status/1182063160691281920

[team filler]

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1182147895371472896

[team filler]

https://twitter.com/mmurraypolitics/status/1182010519714177025

[Nintex]

LOU DOBBS (HOST):  It's time to understand. We have got to kill our enemies. And we must change the way we think about the cost in every sense of the world. This country, the cost not to seek victory, and to find a final resolution of every conflict. Victory. What we can claim now is victory over ISIS, over Al Qaeda to this point. The Talib--

JACK KEANE: No we can't. That's not true.

DOBBS: I said we can claim -- I didn't say it was true. And we could have claimed at one point victory over the Taliban. What we are watching now is an inversion of everything that we intended.

https://www.mediamatters.org/lou-dobbs/lou-dobbs-i-said-we-can-claim-victory-over-isis-and-al-qaeda-i-didnt-say-it-was-true

(Image removed from quote.)

Trump: *Fires shot in the air*

Lou: "Our great leader just won WW3 and it was 100 to 0. The White House is beaming and there is joy on the faces of every child... "

[Tripon]

https://twitter.com/AP_Europe/status/1182259767575810048

[ToxicAdam]

Fox News is running with a poll that 51% want Trump removed from office. The specter of having to defend this guy for another 5 years must be wearing them out.



https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/10/09/trump-impeachment-new-fox-news-poll-shows-half-support-inquiry-removal/3925094002/

[Tripon]

https://twitter.com/WashTimes/status/1182088011158343680

Washington times with the hate boner

[BisMarckie]

His towers in Istanbul might have something to do with his chosen actions here.

The Kurds have been screwed by Turkey with a carte blanche from Washington long before Trump though.

[Rufus]

https://twitter.com/willsommer/status/1182037988315934728

 

[team filler]

https://twitter.com/TulsiGabbard/status/1181984547963101189

https://twitter.com/TulsiGabbard/status/1181984550437699584

https://twitter.com/TulsiGabbard/status/1181984551494672385

https://twitter.com/TulsiGabbard/status/1181984552459341827

https://twitter.com/TulsiGabbard/status/1181984553742798850

 

[james]

https://twitter.com/WashTimes/status/1182088011158343680

Washington times with the hate boner

Imagine being so poor that spending $300 for a haircut is considered splurging

 

[Brehvolution]

[Transhuman]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Washington_Times#Political_stance,_content_and_controversies

That's not a good subsection to have on your Wikipedia article

[Cauliflower Of Love]

yassss

[Trent Dole]

https://twitter.com/mas_nirva/status/1182261388208676865
51% per Fox

[Brehvolution]

https://www.wsj.com/articles/two-foreign-born-men-who-helped-giuliani-on-ukraine-arrested-on-campaign-finance-charges-11570714188

Mr. Giuliani, President Trump’s private lawyer, identified the two men in May as his clients. Both men have donated to Republican campaigns including Mr. Trump’s, and in May 2018 gave $325,000 to the primary pro-Trump super PAC, America First Action, through an LLC called Global Energy Producers, according to Federal Election Commission records.

The charges against the men include conspiracy and making false statements to the Federal Election Commission. Two other men were also charged in the campaign-fundraising scheme, the indictment says.

[Cauliflower Of Love]

https://twitter.com/mas_nirva/status/1182261388208676865
51% per Fox

https://twitter.com/TheMessyMiss/status/1182268183329284096

 

[team filler]

https://twitter.com/TulsiGabbard/status/1182282461859811328


 

[Cauliflower Of Love]

https://www.wsj.com/articles/two-foreign-born-men-who-helped-giuliani-on-ukraine-arrested-on-campaign-finance-charges-11570714188

Mr. Giuliani, President Trump’s private lawyer, identified the two men in May as his clients. Both men have donated to Republican campaigns including Mr. Trump’s, and in May 2018 gave $325,000 to the primary pro-Trump super PAC, America First Action, through an LLC called Global Energy Producers, according to Federal Election Commission records.

The charges against the men include conspiracy and making false statements to the Federal Election Commission. Two other men were also charged in the campaign-fundraising scheme, the indictment says.

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Is....is trump smolietting himself?

[james]

The Trump presidency might be worth it if it results in all the conservative grifters locked up at a supermax 

[Nintex]

https://twitter.com/JoeBiden/status/1182351336299302912

They fell for it.

Holy shit.

[CatsCatsCats]

The Trump presidency might be worth it if it results in all the conservative grifters locked up at a supermax

More like white collar resort, let’s be honest

[Nintex]

https://twitter.com/rebeccaballhaus/status/1182355758379393024

Rudy's still has the best arc

[james]

The Trump presidency might be worth it if it results in all the conservative grifters locked up at a supermax

More like white collar resort, let’s be honest

Not if Bernie has anything to say about it.

#abolishprisonresorts
#abolishprivateprisons
#jailconservatives
#nukethejails

[curly]

https://twitter.com/TulsiGabbard/status/1182282461859811328


 

Seriously considering Either do it or don't you coward.

Also it's being rigged against...the early voting states?  Generally don't understand the allegation. What is the DNC supposed to have done?

[Nintex]

Tulsi: I haven't qualified for the debate, the primary is rigged
Also Tulsi: I have qualified for the debate but I'm not going because the primary is rigged

But she's not entirely wrong.
If you're not a 70 year old you're not getting any TV coverage.

[james]

Tulsi: I haven't qualified for the debate, the primary is rigged
Also Tulsi: I have qualified for the debate but I'm not going because the primary is rigged

But she's not entirely wrong.
If you're not a 70 year old you're not getting any TV coverage.

AOC is 70?

[Pwnz]

https://twitter.com/AP_Europe/status/1182259767575810048

From the makers of Chernobyl comes the telenovela Orange is the New Fuck You.  Rated PG-13.

[curly]

Why the fuck is Warren leading now

Because she's Sander's-lite/Diet Sanders, with less SOCIALISM!.gif and vagina/"good liberal voting for the 'first woman president'" points.

honestly, between the usual sanders attacks and racial spread for the candidates
the warren support seems to be a mix of "I don't care about voting for anyone but a woman" and what I think people call "white feminism"

If you're basing this on what you read online you should know that places like this are extremely unrepresentative of how the broader public feels

[Joe Molotov]

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2019/10/10/1891534/-Trump-s-entire-Ukraine-anti-corruption-team-was-corrupt-and-funded-by-unnamed-Russian-source

Here is the information available as of Thursday afternoon.

- Four men were indicted on campaign finance violations, in particular for funneling money from foreign sources and soliciting a U.S. congressman for help in getting rid of U.S. Ambassador to Ukraine Marie Yovanovitch. The congressman has been unofficially identified as former Republican Rep. Pete Sessions.

- Two of the men, Lev Parnas and Igor Fruman, have previously been identified by Rudy Giuliani as “clients.” Parnas and Fruman are now clients of another former Trump attorney, John Dowd, who represented them in legal filings on Thursday.

- Parnas accompanied Giuliani to a meeting with U.S. Ambassador Kurt Volker in July. Volker mentioned this meeting in his appearance before Congress, describing it as “a long conversation about Ukraine.” That conversation included both the effort to get Ukraine to launch an investigation into Joe Biden and efforts to secure an investigation into supposed Ukrainian involvement in the 2016 election.

- Both Parnas and Fruman were involved in helping Giuliani “establish contacts” among current and former Ukrainian officials. That appears to include a former prosecutor who, temporarily, agreed to testify that Biden had done something wrong, before admitting that he was only trying to please Trump and Giuliani. According to the documents provided by Dowd, the two men worked for Giuliani “in connection with his representation of President Trump.”

- Funding for some of the contributions made came from “a foreign national Russian citizen and businessman,” according to the indictment. The four men indicted, along with “others known and unknown,” are reported to have conspired together to pass donations from this unknown Russian to candidates for both state and federal office.

- Parnas and Fruman attempted to flee the country and were arrested at Dulles Airport after purchasing one-way tickets on an international flight. Another of those indicted, Andrew Kukushkin, was arrested in San Francisco.

- Before running for the border, Parnas and Fruman had lunch with Rudy Giuliani. No details have yet emerged about discussions at that lunch, or whether Giuliani was aware of any pending legal action.

- $325,000 from Parnas and Fruman went through an LLC set up to disguise the source of the contributions to America First Action PAC, a pro-Trump PAC where Donald Trump Jr. is part of the leadership, along with several former members of the Trump White House.

- In an afternoon briefing, the FBI called the actions both “corruption” and “deliberate law-breaking.”

- Though a set of grand jury indictments has been provided, the actual charging documents have not been produced. That leaves open the possibility that others may be charged—including Giuliani.

- Giuliani’s First Response to the arrests was a statement that he didn’t believe the two men would “flip” on him, which is not exactly the first thought of someone uninvolved in crimes.

- The biggest point out of the afternoon press conference involving the U.S. attorney for Manhattan and the New York office of the FBI was that this remains an “ongoing investigation,” again suggesting that the last handcuff is yet to be deployed.

Very legal, and very, very cool.

[Joe Molotov]

https://twitter.com/TheOnion/status/1182363719235526657

[Great Rumbler]

It's happening

[james]

The suggestion all over TV is that Rudy/his associates were probably wiretapped and almost definitely had physical agents tracking them for a while to have all the detail of information already out to the public.

The shit that's about to go down if Rudy has been wiretapped

Also Rick Perry has been sub penor'd

Makes sense that they had a tail if they were caught at the airport attempting to flee

[james]

Maybe Trump was the whistleblower all along, and he elevated all these crooks so they could be baited, caught, and arrested for their crimes?

 

[OnlyRegret]

Why the fuck is Warren leading now

Because she's Sander's-lite/Diet Sanders, with less SOCIALISM!.gif and vagina/"good liberal voting for the 'first woman president'" points.

honestly, between the usual sanders attacks and racial spread for the candidates
the warren support seems to be a mix of "I don't care about voting for anyone but a woman" and what I think people call "white feminism"

If you're basing this on what you read online you should know that places like this are extremely unrepresentative of how the broader public feels

Giving some thought, yeah, definitely. I'm not actively looking into anything, just passively observing whatever I happen onto, and given my "life feed" is likely to be far from Fair and Balanced™, I am probably getting takes that are slanted even when seemingly intended from a neutral stance. Naturally, some dumb things happened upon by Bernouts for example are likely to be signal boosted to paint a larger image of Warren and co. dishonestly.

[curly]

Assume that every American online during primary season has been infected with a brain disease because they have (other than me obv)

[james]

Assume that every American online during primary season has been infected with a brain disease because they have (other than me obv)

[james]

the GOAT

[Nintex]

All this information and yet it is still entirely unclear just what the hell Rudy Giuliani is doing. 


https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1182387198164946944
He forgot to add the poll

[Nintex]

https://twitter.com/ABC/status/1182400090901639169





 

[Occam]

The USA is a banana republic. Has been for a long time; it just took Trump to make it painfully obvious.

[thisismyusername]

https://twitter.com/MarkRuffalo/status/1182005931317583872