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« Reply #59400 on: June 14, 2020, 04:37:04 PM »
Who could've predicted the Trump Organization and Kushner LLC would not be very good at handling a pandemic  :trumps
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« Reply #59401 on: June 14, 2020, 05:04:03 PM »
that lil zionist stole all the n95 masks and sent them to israel  :doge
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« Reply #59402 on: June 14, 2020, 05:06:10 PM »
that lil zionist stole all the n95 masks and sent sold them to israel  :doge
:trumps
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« Reply #59403 on: June 14, 2020, 05:08:07 PM »
https://twitter.com/DrEricDing/status/1271793665493663744

While he is wrong about “disease caravans”  ::), Mexico has not handled the Corona virus well.

Then again AMLO has just followed the same steps as Trump and Bolsonaro have done regarding minimizing the impact of it.

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« Reply #59404 on: June 14, 2020, 06:31:41 PM »
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Joe Biden’s search for a running mate has advanced to the next phase as his campaign conducts more extensive reviews of some prospects, including at least several African American women, according to people with knowledge of the situation.

Among the candidates who have progressed to the point of more comprehensive vetting or have the potential to do so are Sen. Kamala D. Harris (D-Calif.), Rep. Val Demings (D-Fla.), former national security adviser Susan E. Rice and Atlanta Mayor Keisha Lance Bottoms, all of whom are black. Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.), who is white, is also in that group, as is New Mexico Gov. Michelle Lujan Grisham, who is Latina.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/biden-running-mate-search-zeroes-in-on-group-that-includes-at-least-four-black-women/2020/06/13/d7278434-aceb-11ea-9063-e69bd6520940_story.html

how mad is stacey abrams right now

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« Reply #59405 on: June 14, 2020, 07:10:13 PM »
You're telling me you're fine with the Dementia Patient that everyone is openly begging to stay "smart" and hidden from the press (in the midst of racial protests and calls to action mid-pandemic) having his team of "handlers" going around to various Black, female (not even necessarily Democratic) politicians because of a pressured comment on the debate floor is not Patrick Bateman levels of like cold, disgusting ooze dripping down your back?

Some I've followed on Twitter have expressed similar sentiments. :doge

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« Reply #59406 on: June 14, 2020, 07:14:08 PM »
At this point, Biden is barely holding it together, and I'm sure if you force him to speak for 2 hours on anything, (debate, speech, dinner conservation), his thoughts will be incoherent and showing that he's in early onset dementia.

And I'm closer than ever to voting for him because Trump really fucked up this year. Mind you, I'm in Socal, so my vote doesn't matter anyway.

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« Reply #59407 on: June 14, 2020, 07:17:54 PM »
https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1272290065688002560

https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1272297580823810048
Look at all that momentum

You haven't seen sleepy Joe *check notes* walk up and down a flight of stairs recently have you?
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« Reply #59408 on: June 14, 2020, 07:19:12 PM »
Yeah, and he barely held it together then.

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« Reply #59409 on: June 14, 2020, 07:20:18 PM »
A candidate looking to balance their ticket with a VP pick and taking demographics into account?

Truly an unprecedented example of psychopathy in our politics.

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« Reply #59410 on: June 14, 2020, 07:20:54 PM »
You're telling me you're fine with the Dementia Patient that everyone is openly begging to stay "smart" and hidden from the press (in the midst of racial protests and calls to action mid-pandemic) having his team of "handlers" going around to various Black, female (not even necessarily Democratic) politicians because of a pressured comment on the debate floor is not Patrick Bateman levels of like cold, disgusting ooze dripping down your back?

Some I've followed on Twitter have expressed similar sentiments.  :doge

You think there's ever been a vp pick where the racial/sexual/ethnic/gender characteristics of the candidate didn't play a role

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« Reply #59411 on: June 14, 2020, 07:22:17 PM »
Biden himself got picked largely for his white guyness! He's just paying that shit forward.

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« Reply #59412 on: June 14, 2020, 07:25:18 PM »
You're telling me you're fine with the Dementia Patient that everyone is openly begging to stay "smart" and hidden from the press (in the midst of racial protests and calls to action mid-pandemic) having his team of "handlers" going around to various Black, female (not even necessarily Democratic) politicians because of a pressured comment on the debate floor is not Patrick Bateman levels of like cold, disgusting ooze dripping down your back?

Some I've followed on Twitter have expressed similar sentiments.  :doge

You think there's ever been a vp pick where the racial/sexual/ethnic/gender characteristics of the candidate didn't play a role

Bush picked Dick Cheney because he was a secret Traveller.  :doge

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« Reply #59413 on: June 14, 2020, 07:27:32 PM »
the act of cynically picking them out to balance out an electability spreadsheet is fucking gonzo

If this honestly upsets you, you should probably find another hobby.

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« Reply #59415 on: June 14, 2020, 09:06:20 PM »

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« Reply #59417 on: June 14, 2020, 09:11:13 PM »
I'd bet a few bucks on his VP nom being a Democrat.

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« Reply #59418 on: June 14, 2020, 09:11:58 PM »
I'd bet a few bucks on his VP nom being a Democrat.

Where is Vermin Supreme where you need him?!

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« Reply #59419 on: June 14, 2020, 09:15:20 PM »
How the fuck is it a stupid comment when it's literally one fucking sentence

a stupid comment can be any length, really

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« Reply #59420 on: June 14, 2020, 09:27:44 PM »
You think there's ever been a vp pick where the racial/sexual/ethnic/gender characteristics of the candidate didn't play a role
Uhh every VP pick before Geraldine Ferraro
well, tbf, racial/sexual/ethnic/gender characteristics probably did apply to those choices too

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« Reply #59421 on: June 14, 2020, 09:30:46 PM »
I assumed shosta's comment was sarcasm cause otherwise he's backsliding into jorp fandom.

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« Reply #59422 on: June 14, 2020, 09:32:30 PM »
Why is it that you understand the politics/game theory of gender/race when it comes to selecting a VP, yet don't understand what Biden was doing when he was winking and nodding about a republican VP? It wasn't obvious that he was signalling to independents and moderates who dislike Trump? And now that the dust of the primaries has settled, and Trump's numbers among independents+moderates have tanked, Biden doesn't have a single republican on his VP short list. I'm gonna say Biden knows what he's doing here.

I don't even think VPs matter that much in the grand scheme of things, unless you fuck up (Palin). That being said, I expect that Biden will likely select a black woman VP and it'll have some impact on the race. Biden is running so well with white voters (and elderly voters) that he won't need 2008/2012 style black turnout. But given that race has emerged as a major issue in the upcoming election, having a black person on the ticket could be valuable for the old white guy in his 70s.
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« Reply #59423 on: June 14, 2020, 09:37:33 PM »
Jordan Peterson.

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« Reply #59424 on: June 14, 2020, 09:38:09 PM »
Will they also absolve him from debating Trump, how is this going to work where he is "handled" away from critical strategies on the softball national stage and then be tossed on the debate stage?

You think Trump's that much stronger a debater than Bernie?

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« Reply #59425 on: June 14, 2020, 09:39:07 PM »
I assumed shosta's comment was sarcasm cause otherwise he's backsliding into jorp fandom.
What is a jorp

Dunno but when I saw it I immediately thought of Jordan Peterson. That coma sure saved us for a lot of shitposting from that guy over the last few historic months, I tell you what.
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« Reply #59426 on: June 14, 2020, 09:49:40 PM »
so... yes?

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« Reply #59427 on: June 14, 2020, 09:50:59 PM »
Why is it that you understand the politics/game theory of gender/race when it comes to selecting a VP, yet don't understand what Biden was doing when he was winking and nodding about a republican VP? It wasn't obvious that he was signalling to independents and moderates who dislike Trump? And now that the dust of the primaries has settled, and Trump's numbers among independents+moderates have tanked, Biden doesn't have a single republican on his VP short list. I'm gonna say Biden knows what he's doing here.

I don't even think VPs matter that much in the grand scheme of things, unless you fuck up (Palin). That being said, I expect that Biden will likely select a black woman VP and it'll have some impact on the race. Biden is running so well with white voters (and elderly voters) that he won't need 2008/2012 style black turnout. But given that race has emerged as a major issue in the upcoming election, having a black person on the ticket could be valuable for the old white guy in his 70s.
It's not that I don't understand his play, but more that his particular nod of a Republican VP speaks more largely of a softball approach in which he will be applauded for expanding his base while not having the gumption to commit to anything that is confrontational or energizing.

His entire campaign has been extremely lacking in presence, confrontations or rebukes have been kept to a minimum (his worst pet name was "President Tweety" and was likely developed in a boardroom of handlers) and that speaks against his character esp. when he will be facing the national debate stage and meaningless gestures like saying he won't consider a Republican VP will be minor compared to viciously going after Trump in any righteous anger over the fact that he mishandled national unrest during one of the biggest protests in the past several decades and a world pandemic that has affected quite literally everyone on a personal scale. His non-confrontational approach is also extremely unenergizing when he can't do some performative bit that breaks the national landscape on any of the major morning shows or whatever.

Biden has given multiple interviews and speeches in the last couple weeks. They...don't matter. He doesn't matter. Nothing he says or does will break through during a historical span of time where we face a global pandemic and mass protests/unrest. This election is entirely about the president, and even if he was running against 2008-era Obama right now, Trump would still be the focus. I'd say Biden's "wait and see" strategy has worked pretty well, wouldn't you? Even when Biden fucks up, the president immediately changes the subject by fucking up on a bigger scale. Mere days after the black republican comment, we hit the 100k COVID death mark. And a few days after that, George Floyd was murdered. Thus rendering Biden's biggest fuck up completely irrelevant and forgotten.

All Biden has to do is stay alive, go outside a couple times, remind people that he exists, etc. Nothing else matters.
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« Reply #59428 on: June 14, 2020, 09:52:54 PM »
Nobody expects Biden to out shit-fling Trump and I don't know who you think wants him to.
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« Reply #59429 on: June 14, 2020, 09:55:38 PM »
Like I said, utilizing the absolute biggest intersections of personally-felt, nationwide crises even Kopmala or Buttigieg have a fighting chance. So no, I'd imagine Bernie would be able to vocalize commentary esp. when righteous stump speeches are what he specializes in.

idk if a speech about giving cops raises would really energize the dem coalition at this moment

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« Reply #59430 on: June 14, 2020, 09:59:24 PM »
By the time debates start, Trump might be at Katrina-Bush levels in polling, with 140-150k people death from the virus and the protests even reaching NFL games again (if the NFL starts on time). It's gonna be an ugly scene for him and I doubt many people outside of loyalists and some leftist dead enders will be cheering on his bullshit bravado and ignorance during the debates.

That's assuming he even shows up for the debates.
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« Reply #59431 on: June 14, 2020, 10:06:20 PM »
I don't know why anybody is assuming there's going to be debates between Trump and Biden.

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« Reply #59432 on: June 14, 2020, 10:06:25 PM »
Mind you I literally only follow people that are celebrities or are liberal or left-leaning.

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« Reply #59433 on: June 14, 2020, 10:08:51 PM »
I don't know why anybody is assuming there's going to be debates between Trump and Biden.

which camp do you think will not want to debate?

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« Reply #59434 on: June 14, 2020, 10:10:14 PM »
You would have thought the primary would have taught you that twitter isn't real life bro.
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« Reply #59435 on: June 14, 2020, 10:17:29 PM »
I don't know why anybody is assuming there's going to be debates between Trump and Biden.

which camp do you think will not want to debate?

Trump because he'll claim that doing rallies is more important (which might be a truthful answer for him).

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« Reply #59436 on: June 14, 2020, 10:24:01 PM »
lmao

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« Reply #59437 on: June 14, 2020, 10:25:29 PM »
I'll admit, the speech Joe Biden would have to give to win over Ice Cube would be amazing.

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« Reply #59438 on: June 14, 2020, 10:27:16 PM »
I'll admit, the speech Joe Biden would have to give to win over Ice Cube would be amazing.

"Listen here, jack. And I mean this literally...I enjoyed you in New Jack City, man. That was a rough movie."
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« Reply #59439 on: June 14, 2020, 10:45:25 PM »
The only thing I agree with you on is that a win isn't guaranteed. Anything is possible. But I'd rather be Biden right now than Trump, that's for damn sure. Biden isn't an elected official, he has no real responsibilities. Meanwhile...COVID isn't going away, the recession isn't going away, and the protests might not go away in the coming weeks. All while Trump flops from one fuck up to another. I'm struggling to see where he finds a respite. On one hand he's attacking Biden as the Crime Bill author who ruined black lives...on the other hand he's attacking Biden as a pro-riot, pro-antifa police hater who wants to see white people assaulted in their suburban homes. Which is it?
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« Reply #59440 on: June 14, 2020, 10:59:49 PM »
I don't know why anybody is assuming there's going to be debates between Trump and Biden.

which camp do you think will not want to debate?
I could see both effectively killing the debates by never agreeing on the terms in time. Depending on the different calendar this year with COVID and such.

Not the candidates themselves necessarily, who both probably consider themselves master debaters.

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« Reply #59441 on: June 14, 2020, 11:03:51 PM »
If a presidential campaign wanted to avoid debates, waaaaaaaay more likely they'd do it by "negotiating" terms in bad faith and saying regrettably the other side just won't work with them.

Funny that Tri thinks that Biden would completely fall apart and expose himself in a debate yet Trump wouldn't take advantage of that.

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« Reply #59442 on: June 14, 2020, 11:10:41 PM »
Trump rambling reminds me of the Donald Sterling deposition:


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« Reply #59443 on: June 14, 2020, 11:13:11 PM »
If a presidential campaign wanted to avoid debates, waaaaaaaay more likely they'd do it by "negotiating" terms in bad faith and saying regrettably the other side just won't work with them.

Funny that Tri thinks that Biden would completely fall apart and expose himself in a debate yet Trump wouldn't take advantage of that.

Biden and his campaign is still a tradtional run campaign. They might not like a Biden's performance at a debate, but think it's still nesscary to carry out the motions. They did the March one with Sanders despite Biden already having a sizable lead over Sanders at this point. It wasn't until after more primaries and early to mid April you heard rumblings that the Biden camp didn't want to do more debates with Sanders and the justification was that the race was over, not because Biden thought he sucked at it. I think he sucks at it, but that's different from Biden's and his campaign internal view of things.

The reason why I think Trump wouldn't want to go for it because he can't be bothered. Look at him now, the one thing he's excited about are the debates rallies, he just doesn't care about the debate and how they're structure. He never wants to share the stage, and in 2016, he only did it because it was a 'requirement'. If the last 4 years has proved, Trump has spent this presidency showing that he's not going to follow much of the traditions that has built over the last century. Also, for Trump to dunk on Biden, that would actually mean trying to some homework outside of the easy twitter shit. That dude has never done homework in his life, he's not going to start now.

Edit: One last thing, no way in hell are crowds going to be allowed at any of these debates, which is another reason why Trump won't go for it. It's clear at this point that he's willing for others to catch the novel coronavirus in order to see him, if he can't perform in a crowd, than he will have no interest.

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« Reply #59444 on: June 14, 2020, 11:16:29 PM »
Also, for Trump to dunk on Biden, that would actually mean trying to some homework outside of the easy twitter shit. That dude has never done homework in his life, he's not going to start now.

Edit: One last thing, no way in hell are crowds going to be allowed at any of these debates, which is another reason why Trump won't go for it. It's clear at this point that he's willing for others to catch the novel coronavirus in order to see him, if he can't perform in a crowd, than he will have no interest.

So Trump thinks he would have to do a lot of prep work in order to shit-talk Joe Biden and also he won't care about the TV ratings.

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« Reply #59445 on: June 14, 2020, 11:20:33 PM »
https://twitter.com/emrata/status/1272275937296396288

hope she sees this

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« Reply #59446 on: June 14, 2020, 11:20:39 PM »
Also, for Trump to dunk on Biden, that would actually mean trying to some homework outside of the easy twitter shit. That dude has never done homework in his life, he's not going to start now.

Edit: One last thing, no way in hell are crowds going to be allowed at any of these debates, which is another reason why Trump won't go for it. It's clear at this point that he's willing for others to catch the novel coronavirus in order to see him, if he can't perform in a crowd, than he will have no interest.

So Trump thinks he would have to do a lot of prep work in order to shit-talk Joe Biden and also he won't care about the TV ratings.

Do you think his campaign would just let him loose for two hours, and you think he actually cares about getting ratings for other networks without benefiting from it?

Do you think Trump would want to do the debates?

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« Reply #59447 on: June 14, 2020, 11:24:14 PM »
Do you think his campaign would just let him loose for two hours, and you think he actually cares about getting ratings for other networks without benefiting from it?

Do you think Trump would want to do the debates?

respectively: yes, yes and yes

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« Reply #59448 on: June 15, 2020, 04:22:11 AM »
Those are blurred lines Emily

Anyway, Ice Cube should run as an independent he would smoke both Joe and Trump in the debates.
If we can have President Trump then we can have President Ice Cube. And he'd probably make a great President.
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« Reply #59449 on: June 15, 2020, 10:15:31 AM »
Good result in the LGBT discrimination case from SCOTUS. Gorsuch and Roberts joined the Dem-appointed justices. :rock

Apparently they had Gorsuch write the opinion, like when they let Kennedy do it for Obergefell.


edit: Also declined to take an appeal on a Cali "sanctuary city" law that a lower court had upheld.
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« Reply #59450 on: June 15, 2020, 11:23:59 AM »
Jordan texting Cruz saying thanks but hey man no need to bring up the wrestling thing I'm sort of trying to move past that these days haha.

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« Reply #59451 on: June 15, 2020, 12:43:29 PM »
But I thought Larry Kudlow's wife got money and she sure is a small business
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« Reply #59452 on: June 15, 2020, 01:03:57 PM »
Fox News broadcasting a Monty Python line someone wrote on Reddit as real news of the disarray in the Seattle Autonomous Zone is the best thing today so far.

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« Reply #59453 on: June 15, 2020, 01:26:27 PM »
Social conservatives are SALTY about the Supreme Court today.

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« Reply #59454 on: June 15, 2020, 01:30:23 PM »
Social conservatives are SALTY about the Supreme Court today.

I hope they blame Trump for appointing these Liberal activist justices.
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« Reply #59455 on: June 15, 2020, 01:33:18 PM »
LAW & ORDER!!!



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« Reply #59458 on: June 15, 2020, 02:02:19 PM »
Lol click that guys profile wtf

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