US Politics Thread |OT| SAD TRUMP

[Mandark]

Schadenfreude's a bad way to approach politics generally but I'm reading social conservatives melt down and just pinging that serotonin button.

Now just have to hope Biden wins, RGB stays alive through January, and either Roberts becomes the new Souter or Kavanaugh gets whacked over his gambling debts.

[stufte]

Schadenfreude's a bad way to approach politics generally but I'm reading social conservatives melt down and just pinging that serotonin button.

Now just have to hope Biden wins, RGB stays alive through January, and either Roberts becomes the new Souter or Kavanaugh gets whacked over his gambling debts.

Seriously. They are so mad that they can't legally discriminate against anyone and it's feeding me.

 

[Mandark]

https://twitter.com/Holden114/status/1272533171075244032

a totally honest and believable sentiment

[Nintex]

Every time someone mentions RGB holding on, somewhere Peter Thiel checks his voice mail to see if he's on the court yet.

[Mandark]

https://twitter.com/josh_hammer/status/1272532875204853761


I wonder if there were any other prominent religious freedom cases in the last few years...

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https://twitter.com/josh_hammer/status/1256046911657738242

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fix't

[Cauliflower Of Love]

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/15/trump-supporters-to-get-masks-hand-sanitizer-temperature-checks-at-tulsa-rally.html

Supporters of President Donald Trump will receive temperature checks, masks and hand sanitizer before entering his rally Saturday in Tulsa, Oklahoma, Trump’s campaign manager said Monday.

[Nintex]

https://twitter.com/Politics_Polls/status/1272601911372517378

tfw Joe wins ALL the states just by sitting in his basement for 6 months 

[Joe Molotov]

https://twitter.com/Holden114/status/1272533171075244032

a totally honest and believable sentiment

https://twitter.com/KimberlyRobinsn/status/1272534407602110464

[Mandark]

https://twitter.com/KimberlyRobinsn/status/1272534407602110464

Decades of Scalia etc. saying legislative intent is too wishy-washy and open for interpretation, the only honest thing is to look strictly at the text itself.  Well...

[Mandark]

The same nerds complaining about "the weren't thinking about cigarillos and cheeseburgers in the 60s when they passed this law " are the same nerds who argue that it doesn't matter that the framers couldn't have thought about all the high powered assault rifles and weapons it is their legal and human right to have in 2020

Bonus schadenfreude: sex was only included in the Civil Rights Act because southern segregationists proposed it as an amendment, thinking that it would kill the bill. It's too bad they're all dead, cause I would have loved for them to realize what they opened the door for.

[Joe Molotov]

https://twitter.com/KimberlyRobinsn/status/1272534407602110464

Decades of Scalia etc. saying legislative intent is too wishy-washy and open for interpretation, the only honest thing is to look strictly at the text itself.  Well...

I bet Scalia was pretty shocked when Jesus woke him up this morning and told him he has to go to Hell now.

[Tripon]

https://twitter.com/RMConservative/status/1272592404646895623

Is this an argument against equal pay for men and women? 

[tiesto]

You think there's ever been a vp pick where the racial/sexual/ethnic/gender characteristics of the candidate didn't play a role

Uhh every VP pick before Geraldine Ferraro

I had to look up who this was.

In 1984, former vice president and presidential candidate Walter Mondale, seen as an underdog, selected Ferraro to be his running mate in the upcoming election. Ferraro became the only Italian American to be a major-party national nominee in addition to being the first woman.

Nice.

[Madrun Badrun]

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-court-qualified-immunity/u-s-supreme-court-rejects-cases-over-qualified-immunity-idUSKBN23M1YH

What's with all the supreme court decisions today?  Is this like the one day a year they work?

[Mandark]

They hear arguments in some cases and receive petitions to hear other cases. They vote privately on the cases they've heard and write up the majority and dissenting opinions, and decide which of the appeals they'll hear the next time they're in session, and that all gets presented publicly on one day.

Actually it's kind of a miracle that this stuff never leaks.

[Cauliflower Of Love]

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-court-qualified-immunity/u-s-supreme-court-rejects-cases-over-qualified-immunity-idUSKBN23M1YH

What's with all the supreme court decisions today?  Is this like the one day a year they work?

The carrier pigeon got lost.

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https://twitter.com/josh_hammer/status/1272532875204853761


I wonder if there were any other prominent religious freedom cases in the last few years...

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I'm still wondering  if there were any other prominent religious freedom cases in the last few years   

goddamn you mandi 

[TakingBackSunday]

rasmussen has trump down 12 points to Biden loooool

[Nintex]

At this point there's only two things that can happen. Either Trump stages a a comeback for the ages or the bottom drops out.
My guess is the next rally will show the direction this is headed.

Meanwhile the administration is pulling all their resources on the things that matter, like John Bolton's book
https://twitter.com/cspan/status/1272629770795311105

[Cauliflower Of Love]

https://www.npr.org/sections/live-updates-protests-for-racial-justice/2020/06/15/877389052/u-s-embassy-in-south-korea-removes-its-black-lives-matter-banner

Amid the uproar over policing and racism in America, the U.S. Embassy in Seoul, South Korea, hung a large banner on Saturday that said, "Black Lives Matter" on the front of the mission. Two days later, it has taken the banner down

…

Bloomberg and Reuters report that the banner was taken down after President Trump expressed displeasure with it.

The request "cited as its reason the fact that Black Lives Matter is a non-profit organization and that the US government does not encourage contributions to the group or promote any specific organization," per CNN's source.

That's rich.

[Mandark]

So are we gonna do anything about corona aid  pt2 or nah? I read the below article and it seems like we're about to get fucked

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/06/08/republicans-recession-coronavirus-aid-307764

[Nintex]

At this point there's only two things that can happen. Either Trump stages a a comeback for the ages or the bottom drops out.

stunning analysis windex

Well the walls are closing in this is really a turning point on the wheel of history.

[Mandark]

Remember with the CARES Act, McConnell tried to jam the Dems by presenting a bill without their input and daring them to vote against it in the middle of a crisis (he felt that Pelosi had commandeered the process for an earlier stopgap bill and wasn't happy IIRC). But the Senate Dems voted as a bloc against it, even Manchin. McConnell did the fake outrage about playing politics blah blah then they negotiated a bill. $600 bonus unemployment, PUA, PPP, $1200 checks etc.

Then Lindsey Graham, Tim Scott, and Ben Sasse threatened to blow up the process over the enhanced unemployment. At which point Bernie Sanders told them if they did that, he'd blow up the process over the weak corporate oversight, and they got in line and the bill got passed.

Which is all to say that besides the usual dysfunction and brinksmanship and the ideological gap (Dem opening bid is the $3 trillion HEROES Act, GOP opening bid is corporate immunity for COVID related civil suits), there's probably a ton of butthurt going around on the personal level.

[Joe Molotov]

So are we gonna do anything about corona aid  pt2 or nah? I read the below article and it seems like we're about to get fucked

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/06/08/republicans-recession-coronavirus-aid-307764

Go back to your job and die.

[stufte]

So are we gonna do anything about corona aid  pt2 or nah? I read the below article and it seems like we're about to get fucked

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/06/08/republicans-recession-coronavirus-aid-307764

Go back to your job and die.

 

[benjipwns]

https://www.conservativereview.com/news/horowitz-conservatives-get-massacred-fake-conservative-scotus/

Conservatives get massacred by fake ‘conservative’ SCOTUS
Daniel Horowitz · June 15, 2020 

Within 35 minutes today at 10 a.m. Eastern, what some thought was the most conservative Supreme Court of all time concocted a fundamental right to transgenderism in the context of labor law, erased the Second Amendment, and interfered with a state death penalty case, but declined to interfere with a California law that criminalizes law enforcement cooperation with federal immigration agents.

Taken in totality, the “conservative” legal movement, which has promoted the idea of “appointing better judges” rather than fighting the entire concept of judicial supremacism, has failed miserably. This was its Waterloo.

By far, the most devastatingly consequential case of the day was the transgender “discrimination” case – Bostock v. Clayton County. Writing for the majority, Gorsuch claims that when the statute uses the term “sex,” it can apply to sexual orientation and gender identity. “An employer who fires an individual merely for being gay or transgender violates Title VII” of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, concluded Gorsuch. He was joined by the four Democrat appointees, as well as Chief Justice Roberts.

Well, it’s good to know that gender and sex are indeed not separate things, as the rainbow jihad lobby has indicated for so many years! But either way this ruling is absurd beyond belief.

Here is the relevant paragraph from Justice Alito’s dissent, joined by Thomas:

It’s not even worth debating the insane illegality behind retroactively adding novel concepts to a 1964 bill, novel concepts that would have repulsed every single member who voted for that act, including black civil rights leaders. But there are also serious policy repercussions.

Supreme Court decisions dressed up as legislation are like meat cleavers as compared to real legislation. Most people nowadays don’t desire to fire someone simply because of their sexual activities at home. What this opinion, without any legislative compromise or nuance, will accomplish is to make it impossible to fire anyone for any reason who identifies as any of these new protected classes, who now have super-rights.

To begin with, title VII was very controversial at the time. It is simply unconstitutional to regulate polite behavior on the part of employers. They have the constitutional right to hire and fire whomever they want. They have the right to their property, and nobody else has a right to someone else’s property. However, it was legitimately justified because our country discriminated against black people for so long and used the boot of the state to deny them real rights, including their own property. The problem is that it has subjected employers to a nightmare of litigation to fire a black worker who happens to be underperforming. But to now add transgenderism and homosexuality to the mix is ludicrous.

What if someone comes into work cross-dressing and is extremely disruptive? What if someone is just simply a lousy worker? What about religious liberty? Does the First Amendment not mean anything? Does a Catholic school now have to hire a cross-dresser? What about demanding that doctors perform castration operations? What about allowing men who think they are women into female sports? This is yet another example of the courts creating a super-right that infringes upon a real right.

Then again, ignoring foundational rights while creating super-rights is exactly what the Supreme Court has been doing for decades. “Conservative” justices taking part are merely the icing on the cake.

[benjipwns]

Alito dissent is five times longer than the opinion (plus Kavanaugh's dissent) and attached dictionary definitions of "sex" from
Webster’s New International Dictionary 2296 (2d ed. 1953)
Webster’s Third New International Dictionary 2081 (1966)
Oxford English Dictionary 577–578 (1933)
Concise Oxford Dictionary of Current English 1164 (5th ed. 1964)
Random House Dictionary of the English Language 1307 (1966)
American Heritage Dictionary 1187 (1969)
Webster’s Third New International Dictionary 2081 (2002)
Random House Webster’s Unabridged Dictionary 1754 (2d ed. 2001)
American Heritage Dictionary 1605 (5th ed. 2011)

[benjipwns]

At this point there's only two things that can happen. Either Trump stages a a comeback for the ages or the bottom drops out.

FACT CHECK: https://www.politico.com/news/2020/06/15/trump-glide-reelection-republican-officials-316457

Interviews with more than 50 state, district and county Republican Party chairs depict a version of the electoral landscape that is no worse for Trump than six months ago — and possibly even slightly better. According to this view, the coronavirus is on its way out and the economy is coming back. Polls are unreliable, Joe Biden is too frail to last, and the media still doesn’t get it.

“The more bad things happen in the country, it just solidifies support for Trump,” said Phillip Stephens, GOP chairman in Robeson County, N.C., one of several rural counties in that swing state that shifted from supporting Barack Obama in 2012 to Trump in 2016. “We’re calling him ‘Teflon Trump.’ Nothing’s going to stick, because if anything, it’s getting more exciting than it was in 2016.”

This year, Stephens said, “We’re thinking landslide.”

[Mandark]

Ihlan Omar's father died from coronavirus complications. Shit.

[Pissy F Benny]

Bad news haters and losers, America is back and there’s nothing you can do about it

https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1272871304572678144

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How much did the figure drop in April tho 

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[ToxicAdam]

Bad news haters and losers, America is back and there’s nothing you can do about it

https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1272871304572678144

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How much did the figure drop in April tho 

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I read that headline this morning and thought, "I wonder which conservative cheerleader is dumb enough to look at that stat and crow about it?"

I should've known.


Here's a sexy photo of Jeane Kirkpatrick for the top of the page

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[Tripon]

https://twitter.com/RuralChrisLee/status/1272861821918236672

[Joe Molotov]

https://www.conservativereview.com/news/horowitz-conservatives-get-massacred-fake-conservative-scotus/

Conservatives get massacred by fake ‘conservative’ SCOTUS
Daniel Horowitz · June 15, 2020 

Within 35 minutes today at 10 a.m. Eastern, what some thought was the most conservative Supreme Court of all time concocted a fundamental right to transgenderism in the context of labor law, erased the Second Amendment, and interfered with a state death penalty case, but declined to interfere with a California law that criminalizes law enforcement cooperation with federal immigration agents.

Taken in totality, the “conservative” legal movement, which has promoted the idea of “appointing better judges” rather than fighting the entire concept of judicial supremacism, has failed miserably. This was its Waterloo.

By far, the most devastatingly consequential case of the day was the transgender “discrimination” case – Bostock v. Clayton County. Writing for the majority, Gorsuch claims that when the statute uses the term “sex,” it can apply to sexual orientation and gender identity. “An employer who fires an individual merely for being gay or transgender violates Title VII” of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, concluded Gorsuch. He was joined by the four Democrat appointees, as well as Chief Justice Roberts.

Well, it’s good to know that gender and sex are indeed not separate things, as the rainbow jihad lobby has indicated for so many years! But either way this ruling is absurd beyond belief.

Here is the relevant paragraph from Justice Alito’s dissent, joined by Thomas:

It’s not even worth debating the insane illegality behind retroactively adding novel concepts to a 1964 bill, novel concepts that would have repulsed every single member who voted for that act, including black civil rights leaders. But there are also serious policy repercussions.

Supreme Court decisions dressed up as legislation are like meat cleavers as compared to real legislation. Most people nowadays don’t desire to fire someone simply because of their sexual activities at home. What this opinion, without any legislative compromise or nuance, will accomplish is to make it impossible to fire anyone for any reason who identifies as any of these new protected classes, who now have super-rights.

To begin with, title VII was very controversial at the time. It is simply unconstitutional to regulate polite behavior on the part of employers. They have the constitutional right to hire and fire whomever they want. They have the right to their property, and nobody else has a right to someone else’s property. However, it was legitimately justified because our country discriminated against black people for so long and used the boot of the state to deny them real rights, including their own property. The problem is that it has subjected employers to a nightmare of litigation to fire a black worker who happens to be underperforming. But to now add transgenderism and homosexuality to the mix is ludicrous.

What if someone comes into work cross-dressing and is extremely disruptive? What if someone is just simply a lousy worker? What about religious liberty? Does the First Amendment not mean anything? Does a Catholic school now have to hire a cross-dresser? What about demanding that doctors perform castration operations? What about allowing men who think they are women into female sports? This is yet another example of the courts creating a super-right that infringes upon a real right.

Then again, ignoring foundational rights while creating super-rights is exactly what the Supreme Court has been doing for decades. “Conservative” justices taking part are merely the icing on the cake.

[Nintex]

Thank you for saving America Nintendo!

[Cauliflower Of Love]

https://www.conservativereview.com/news/horowitz-conservatives-get-massacred-fake-conservative-scotus/

Conservatives get massacred by fake ‘conservative’ SCOTUS
Daniel Horowitz · June 15, 2020 

Within 35 minutes today at 10 a.m. Eastern, what some thought was the most conservative Supreme Court of all time concocted a fundamental right to transgenderism in the context of labor law, erased the Second Amendment, and interfered with a state death penalty case, but declined to interfere with a California law that criminalizes law enforcement cooperation with federal immigration agents.

Taken in totality, the “conservative” legal movement, which has promoted the idea of “appointing better judges” rather than fighting the entire concept of judicial supremacism, has failed miserably. This was its Waterloo.

By far, the most devastatingly consequential case of the day was the transgender “discrimination” case – Bostock v. Clayton County. Writing for the majority, Gorsuch claims that when the statute uses the term “sex,” it can apply to sexual orientation and gender identity. “An employer who fires an individual merely for being gay or transgender violates Title VII” of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, concluded Gorsuch. He was joined by the four Democrat appointees, as well as Chief Justice Roberts.

Well, it’s good to know that gender and sex are indeed not separate things, as the rainbow jihad lobby has indicated for so many years! But either way this ruling is absurd beyond belief.

Here is the relevant paragraph from Justice Alito’s dissent, joined by Thomas:

It’s not even worth debating the insane illegality behind retroactively adding novel concepts to a 1964 bill, novel concepts that would have repulsed every single member who voted for that act, including black civil rights leaders. But there are also serious policy repercussions.

Supreme Court decisions dressed up as legislation are like meat cleavers as compared to real legislation. Most people nowadays don’t desire to fire someone simply because of their sexual activities at home. What this opinion, without any legislative compromise or nuance, will accomplish is to make it impossible to fire anyone for any reason who identifies as any of these new protected classes, who now have super-rights.

To begin with, title VII was very controversial at the time. It is simply unconstitutional to regulate polite behavior on the part of employers. They have the constitutional right to hire and fire whomever they want. They have the right to their property, and nobody else has a right to someone else’s property. However, it was legitimately justified because our country discriminated against black people for so long and used the boot of the state to deny them real rights, including their own property. The problem is that it has subjected employers to a nightmare of litigation to fire a black worker who happens to be underperforming. But to now add transgenderism and homosexuality to the mix is ludicrous.

What if someone comes into work cross-dressing and is extremely disruptive? What if someone is just simply a lousy worker? What about religious liberty? Does the First Amendment not mean anything? Does a Catholic school now have to hire a cross-dresser? What about demanding that doctors perform castration operations? What about allowing men who think they are women into female sports? This is yet another example of the courts creating a super-right that infringes upon a real right.

Then again, ignoring foundational rights while creating super-rights is exactly what the Supreme Court has been doing for decades. “Conservative” justices taking part are merely the icing on the cake.

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walking around in black gown all day will make you question who you really are.

[BIONIC]

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1272737867576590336

Trumpy replying to himself thinking he’s Mandark or something 

[Nintex]

https://twitter.com/jonathanchait/status/1272712421069783043

 

[Phoenix Dark]

https://twitter.com/jonathanchait/status/1272712421069783043

 

Gotta spend those stonk $$$s on something, I guess.

#robinhood

[Cauliflower Of Love]

Not only it fantastic that it's a tax credit, but it only covers 50% of your travels.

[Mandark]

shosta figuring out how to combine this tax credit, his fake platinum status at the casino, and the forum wager money he caused a recession to get

[team filler]

https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1272944779542831106


 

[Nintex]

The president brought up the “Explore America” Tax Credit during a White House roundtable last month.

 

[Joe Molotov]

https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1272944779542831106


 

And we did it better than anyone.

[Nintex]

https://twitter.com/jaketapper/status/1273024722142453760

 

[team filler]

 

DA BEAST IS BACK BAYBEE!!

[benjipwns]

OMAHA, Neb. (AP) — The Nebraska Democratic Party called on its U.S. Senate nominee to drop out of the race Tuesday after he made sexually repugnant comments about a campaign staffer in a group text with her and other staffers.

The party said its state executive committee voted unanimously on Monday evening to withdraw all of its resources from Chris Janicek’s campaign.

Janicek, the owner of an Omaha cupcake bakery, is challenging Republican Sen. Ben Sasse, who is seeking a second term. Janicek accepted the Democratic nomination a little more than a month ago after winning a seven-candidate primary race, but the odds of winning in November were against him in Republican-dominated Nebraska even before his party withdrew its support.

The text messages, which were obtained by The Associated Press, were from a group chat involving Janicek and five other people, including the female staffer. At one point, he wrote that he had argued with her and then asked whether the campaign should spend money on “getting her laid.”

“It will probably take three guys,” he wrote, before describing in graphic detail an imagined group sex scene involving the female staffer.

He then tried walk back those comments as “a joke,” and texted an apology to the group.

“I’m going on no sleep and a bunch of exuberant excitement and I think I was out of line,” he wrote.

The female staffer texted back that she was appalled by his comments and could no longer support his campaign.

“You are my boss and a candidate running for Senate, (an) office held by just 100 Americans representing approximately 330 million of her people,” she wrote. “There is zero tolerance for what you said.”

Party officials said they demanded that Janicek withdraw as the party’s nominee, which he refused to do.

The campaign staffer, who has since quit, filed a formal complaint with the party alleging that Janicek violated its code of conduct that prohibits sexual harassment.

In a brief phone interview, Janicek said he doesn’t plan to drop out of the race. He alleged that the party was targeting him because he disagreed with its more liberal activists on issues such as abortion rights and gun control.

“They’re using this as a crutch,” he said.

Janicek didn’t deny that he made offensive comments, but he said he apologized for them and assumed the matter would be kept private.

Maybe they should replace him with three guys.

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[Himu]

when you don't follow the news for a few days because you've been busy with your own shit and then find out seattle went and made their own hamsterdam

 

[Himu]

https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1272944779542831106


 

lmao

Yeah, they had slaves in the Caribbean and all across south america because US of A created it. lol

Brazil had 1 million slaves shipped. Brazil ran that shit and had the most slaves in general.

The entire foundation of the new world and the entire span of the Americas (and not just America) have a history of slavery. This idea it was only an American thing is completely ahistorical and insults the history of the oppression of those stolen and their ancestors.

Admit wrong doing, but stop with the dearth of real facts.

So yes, America did inherit a specific type of slavery. Stop with the bad history white boy white guilt shit and stick to the facts.

[naff]

is he claiming 'murcans innovated the slave trade? that's american exceptionalism for you.

edit: oh right, he's just saying there was no enforcement from a foreign power and the colonies where african slaves landed chose to adopt the slave trade. i mean, im sure there were a lot of external pressures (namely money) but that seems a fine, if weird, point to make that the founders were free to choose, and choose they did.

it's less "white boy guilt" and more acknowledging that americans can't jump through historical hoops as though foreign powers enforced they become slavers in the beginning.

[benjipwns]

he accurately notes it was the Colony of Virginia, not the United States, then he says the United States did it

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nitpicking

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[Mandark]

Kaine's statement is fine, never rely on the Hill to accurately summarize something in a tweet, etc etc.

[Cauliflower Of Love]

Bolton trying to come out of this like a dove.

:kitkatstossel

[Himu]

http://www.drudgereport.com/

!!!!

[Cauliflower Of Love]

when did drudge add a third column?

[Mandark]

letthemfight.gif

Ratting out Pompeo is fun. Trump will take that personally and Pompeo's got political ambitions.

[Himu]

FEDS ARE TRYING TO PURSUE CHARGES AGAINST BOLTON

[Himu]

holy shit

At the opening dinner of the Osaka G-20 meeting in June 2019, with only interpreters present, Xi had explained to Trump why he was basically building concentration camps in Xinjiang. According to our interpreter, Trump said that Xi should go ahead with building the camps, which Trump thought was exactly the right thing to do.

as per WSJ