How do you consume the news?

[Himu]

Election has changed how I get my news. I used to get my news via Facebook. I'd set notifications alerts for my favorite sites rather than just going to them. I wouldn't actively seek out news and be a part of the process of being an informed citizen even though I was still up to date on news and knew where Aleppo was unlike a certain presidential candidate.

After the election I realized the way I consume news was shallow and biased. I didn't know a single Trump voter and didn't read any conservative sites because why would I? I didn't know of any reasons why anyone would vote for him. So I decided to start going to my news sites directly and start reading sites I don't agree with just to understand their viewpoint.

Now I'm kind of overwhelmed. I read Al Jazeera, NYT, WaPo, Guardian, WSJ, NPR, and my local paper. I've thrown politico, and conservative news sites on top. I'm at a crossroads. I should size it down but I think only trusting one news source and living in a bubble that only confirms what you think is a wasteful life and a good lesson to take from this election. On the other hand, there's so many news sites to read. And this doesn't include things like Twitter or entertainment sites like Hollywood reporter, variety, or giant bomb or whatever.

Shit is daunting.

Help.

[archnemesis]

I use a combination of print media, news websites, aggregation websites, RSS feeds, and newsletters. Keeping up with world news is interesting, but don't let that distract you from more important things. In the end, your quality of life is more affected by your own actions than by the actions of others.

[Himu]

http://www.tested.com/tech/web/454107-how-and-why-i-replaced-rss-twitter-lists/

[benjipwns]

As I posted I use this as sorta like a "main/trending news" page: http://www.memeorandum.com/

If you go next to where it says "Discussion" you can click a + to get a dropdown of sites connected to the story. Often there you can get different political leaning sites.

Like for example on the story:

NBC News:
Trump Transition Shake-Up Part of ‘Stalinesque Purge’ of Christie Loyalists

The drop down gives you:

Jennifer Jacobs / Bloomberg:   Ex-Intelligence Chairman Rogers Leaves Trump Transition Team
Steve Holland / Reuters:   Trump, Pence meeting in New York on Cabinet picks
CNBC:   Donald Trump requests security clearance for son-in-law Jared Kushner
Catherine Garcia / The Week:   Donald Trump says only he knows who his cabinet finalists are
Josh Marshall / Talking Points Memo:   The Chaos Begins  —  We've discussed a number of times since …
Lisa Hagen / The Hill:   Trump transition team changes described as ‘Stalinesque purge’ of Christie allies: report
Rush Limbaugh:   Quick Hits Page
Josh Feldman / Mediaite:   Trump Tweets About ‘Very Organized’ Cabinet Process: Only I Know Who ‘Finalists’ Are
Lauren McCauley / Common Dreams:   Ugly and Unprepared, ‘Knife Fight’ Breaks Out in Trump Transition
Erik Loomis / Lawyers, Guns & Money:   Trump Governance  —  I guess we can try to hang our hopes …
Joseph / CANNONFIRE:   Trump is going to go after Hillary AND Obama
Susan Wright / RedState:   After Months as Trump's Lackey, the Trump Team Purges Any Chris Christie Remnants
Steve M. / No More Mister Nice Blog:   JARED KUSHNER WILL NOT BE THE CALMING INFLUENCE WHO SAVES AMERICA
Russ Read / The Daily Caller:   Mike Rogers Kicked Off Trump Transition Team
Adam L Silverman / Balloon Juice:   The Midday of the Plastic Sporks Begins
Taegan Goddard / Political Wire:   Christie Loyalists Purged from Transition Team
emptywheel:   Day Six: Our First Purge  —  The big news from the Trump transition …
Taylor Marsh:   Neocon John Bolton, Rudy Giuliani, Scary State Choices *Updated*

It also includes trending but not mainstream news:

NewsBusters:
MRC/YouGov Poll: Most Voters Saw, Rejected News Media Bias
–Discussion:
Jim Hoft / The Gateway Pundit:   New Poll Finds 7 in 10 Voters Don't Trust Corrupt Pro-Hillary Mainstream Media
Brandon Morse / TheBlaze:   New poll shows high number of voters recognized and rejected Democratic media bias
Mary Chastain / Le·gal In·sur·rec· tion:   Bias.  Bias everywhere!  —  A new Media Research Center (MRC) …
Samuel Gonzalez / The Last Tradition:   POLL: 70% voters do not believe media honest and truthful..
Steve Watson / Infowars:   DESPERATE: Establishment Media Says Everything Apart From Itself Is ‘Fake’

Put some more examples in this spoiler:

spoiler (click to show/hide)

New York Times:
Firings and Discord Put Trump Transition Team in a State of Disarray

Jeralyn / TalkLeft:   Team Trump: Not Ready for Primetime
Shane Goldmacher / Politico:   GOP foreign policy leaders grow despondent
Nancyl / Washington Monthly:   Quick Takes: Trump's Transition Team Is a Mess
Dana / Patterico's Pontifications:   When All You Can Do Is Shake Your Head...  Today's daily serving …
Michael Warren / Weekly Standard:   Mike Rogers Out From Trump Transition Team
Chris Sanchez / Business Insider:   Trump is catching some flak for referring to cabinet picks as ‘finalists’
Elaine Godfrey / The Atlantic:   The Atlantic Politics & Policy Daily: Saving Speaker Ryan
Josh Feldman / Mediaite:   Ex-State Dept. Official, After Exchange With Trump Transition Team, Warns People to ‘Stay Away’
Greg P. / twitchy.com:   Anonymous sources close to Mike Rogers compare Trump transition changes to ‘Stalinesque purge’
Kevin Drum / Mother Jones:   Trump Transition Off to a Rocky Start
Adam K. Raymond / New York Magazine:   A Week After the Election, the Trump Transition Is a Total Mess
Virginia Kruta / Independent Journal Review:   Trump Transition Team Hits Yet Another Speedbump as Nat'l Security Advisor Mike Rogers Bows Out
John Aravosis / AMERICAblog NewsAMERICAblog News:   Trump purging everything “Chris Christie” from a transition in “turmoil”
Steven L. Taylor / Outside the Beltway:   Trump Team not Ready for Prime Time
Ann Althouse / Althouse:   Trump chaos... as told by the NYT.
alan.com:   Trump transition at ‘near halt’ with shakeup
S.A. Miller / Washington Times:   Mike Rogers nudged off Trump transition team
Laura Clawson / Daily Kos:   Doesn't look like the Trump administration trains will be running on time after all
Becca Stanek / The Week:   Former Bush official warns diplomats to stay away from Trump's ‘angry, arrogant’ transition

Jamelle Bouie / Slate:
There's No Such Thing as a Good Trump Voter  —  People voted for a racist who promised racist outcomes.  They don't deserve your empathy.  —  Donald Trump ran a campaign of racist demagoguery against Muslim Americans, Hispanic immigrants, and black protesters.
–Discussion:
Elie Mystal / Above the Law:   Will Hate Crimes Be Prosecuted In Trumpworld?
Sara Gonzales / TheBlaze:   CBS analyst: There's no such thing as a good Trump voter
Justin Baragona / Mediaite:   Slate's Jamelle Bouie Says There Are No Good Trump Voters, Compares Them To Lynch Mobs
Rod Dreher / The American Conservative:   Loving Like A Liberal, Hating Half The Country
www.wnyc.org:   White Nationalism in The White House: Analyzing Stephen Bannon's Role
Kristine Guerra / Washington Post:   After Trump's win, some minorities feel unsafe. Now, thousands want to protect them.

Rand Paul: Will Donald Trump betray voters by hiring John Bolton?  —  Article will continue after advertisement  —  Rumors are that Donald Trump might pick John Bolton for Secretary of State.  Heaven forbid.  —  One of the things I occasionally liked about the President-elect was his opposition to the Iraq war and regime change.
–Discussion:
Mollie Hemingway / The Federalist:   Jim Webb For Secretary Of Defense
Brent Griffiths / Politico:   Rand Paul: 'I'll do whatever it takes' to stop Bolton from being secretary of state
Eric Boehm / Hit & Run:   Five Horrifically Bad Foreign Policy Ideas That Should Disqualify John Bolton From Being Secretary of State
Michele Kelemen / NPR:   For Trump's Secretary Of State, Buzz Centers Around Giuliani, Bolton
Joe Perticone / Independent Journal Review:   Senator Lindsey Graham Says He Would Support Rudy Giuliani as Trump's Secretary of State
Brandon Morse / TheBlaze:   Rand Paul savagely takes down Trump's rumored pick for Secretary of State
Daniel Larison / The American Conservative:   Bolton and Trump's Foreign Policy Judgment
Allan Smith / AOL:   Rand Paul: John Bolton is ‘totally unfit’ for secretary of state and Rudy Giuliani is ‘very similar’
Guardian:   Rand Paul: I oppose both Rudy Giuliani and John Bolton for secretary of state
Michael Krieger / Liberty Blitzkrieg:   Draining the Neocon National Security Swamp? Don't Count on It
Michelle Mark / Business Insider:   Rand Paul comes out against John Bolton as potential secretary of state: ‘The man is a menace’
Kit Daniels / Infowars:   Rand Paul Warns Trump: Don't Appoint Pro-War Bolton Secretary of State
Nick Turse / TomDispatch - Blog:   Tomgram: Nick Turse, America, the Election, and the Dismal Tide
Margaret Hartmann / New York Magazine:   Trump Eyes Rudy Giuliani, John Bolton, and Jeff Sessions for Next Divisive Cabinet Pick

When Trump says he wants to deport criminals, he means something starkly different than Obama  —  In this photo taken Nov. 10, President Barack Obama meets with President-elect Donald Trump in the Oval Office of the White House in Washington.  (Associated Press)
–Discussion:
Peter Holley / Washington Post:   Defiant LAPD chief says department will refuse to help Donald Trump's deportation efforts
Josh Siegel / The Daily Signal:   Sanctuary Cities Defy Trump's Pledge to Defund Them. How He Can Fight Back.
Christopher Woody / Business Insider:   Trump's deportation plan is self-defeating and may worsen the problem it means to solve
Mike McPhate / New York Times:   California Today: Latino Power Rising
T.J. Raphael / PRI:   ‘Sanctuary cities’ around the US promise to defy Trump's threats
Anthony L. Fisher / Hit & Run:   Trump Wants To Deport As Many Undocumented Immigrants As Obama Already Has
Greg P. / twitchy.com:   It looks like the first big immigration battle might be President Trump vs. the LAPD
Immigration Prof / ImmigrationProf Blog:   What is the Trump Administration's Definition of a “Criminal Alien”?
Alex Pfeiffer / The Daily Caller:   Few Students At LA High Schools With Anti-Trump Walkouts Speak English As A Primary Language
Dave Blount / John Hawkins' Right Wing News:   Local Officials Adopt Defiant Stance Regarding Immigration Law
Cheryl Chumley / The Geller Report:   LAPD Chief: I Won't Enforce Trump's Deportation
Howard Portnoy / Liberty Unyielding:   LAPD won't help deport immigrants, police chief tells Los Angeles Times

[close]

They also have a media focused version: http://mediagazer.com/
And tech: http://www.techmeme.com/
And celeb: http://www.wesmirch.com/

techmeme is the original technically

Like Drudge, Breitbart is interesting in reading the headlines they give to the same stories as other outlets. And what's getting attention. Without necessarily needing to read the articles. (Although in the case of Drudge they usually just editorialize the story title and link to a more mainstream news source.) If it's on those sites, it's on Rush Limbaugh, it's on Hannity, etc.

For the most part though I use memeorandum and such to just get a general rundown of the news and summaries. I prefer after the fact longer form writing. Most of the day to day stuff ultimately is just filler. Or at least that's how the media treats it. Try following up on a local crime story or court case or something. Or getting past the press release/standard comment.

Anyway, this is just how I tend to do it. It's probably not what you're looking for, but it's a method.

[seagrams hotsauce]

Not gonna lie, kinda bummed Himu is apparently saying she got her news mostly through facebook for the last couple years? Seriously?

[Syph]

I read the same story ~5 times across different news sites.
I read left and right sites and then after wading through the rhetoric I extract the actual facts and form my own opinion.
The amount of editorializing in today's "news" is sickening.
MAGA 




also benji i clicked your link and the top story/site was huffingtonpost 

[Cerveza mas fina]

I try not to do too much news but I use these to check on things I want to know more about

nu.nl (dutch)
gazeta.pl (polish)
theguardian.co.uk (english)
dr news on tv (danish)
thebore.com

[Reb]

I have a shitload of news sites RSS feed into Feedly and then I skim it per category.

[benjipwns]

also benji i clicked your link and the top story/site was huffingtonpost 

It's an algorithm, it promotes stories that are basically getting the most attention via trackbacks, links, most clicked, Google/twitter presence, etc.

If you note, not only is the discussion links to other sites:

Digby / Hullabaloo:   Meanwhile, in the most powerful nation on earth
Jay Caruso / RedState:   Trump Transition In Disarray: True Or A Media Creation?
Joe Clark / New Century Times:   Former GOP State Dept. Official Turns Back On Trump; Warns American People (TWEET)
New York Times:   Firings and Discord Put Trump Transition Team in a State of Disarray
John Cole / Balloon Juice:   I Can Name One Department They'll Fill With No Problem
Virginia Kruta / Independent Journal Review:   Trump Transition Team Hits Yet Another Speedbump as Nat'l Security Advisor Mike Rogers Bows Out
Becca Stanek / The Week:   Former Bush official warns diplomats to stay away from Trump's ‘angry, arrogant’ transition
Natasha Bertrand / Business Insider:   It looks like Trump may pay the price for alienating dozens of national security elites

But underneath that story in the outline are related stories from a wide variety of outlets. All attached to the core story of Trump's transition team.

They have a source "leaderboard" at http://www.memeorandum.com/lb

The memeorandum Leaderboard lists the sources most frequently posted to memeorandum.
This particular version corresponds to the 30-day period ending November 16, 2016.
Sources are ranked by Presence, the percentage of headline space a source occupies over the 30-day period. "Discussion" links are not taken in to consideration here — only full headlines are counted.

Also, the "river" which decategorizes the articles and instead lists them in chronological order that the site picks them up: http://www.memeorandum.com/river

One thing memeorandum doesn't do that the other versions do is include tweets as sources. It'd be interesting to have that as a toggle. I doubt I'd want it permanently.

[nudemacusers]

suppository

[seagrams hotsauce]

ugh now we're even beridden with c+ mac avatars. fake and gay

[Samson Manhug]

I don't buy the "I read both sides and form my own opinion" line. Usually that means you read both sides and use confirmation bias to reinforce that your side is right and the other is crazy. Most of the sites in benji's links aren't real journalism, just heavily politicized clickbait.

I subscribe to NYT, Washington Post, and Foreign Policy. I get daily email updates from those and Al-Monitor. The rest of my news comes from my national security/Middle East oriented Twitter feed.

I've said it before, but a lot of people would benefit by giving up their TPMs and Drudges and only get their news from the news wire (AP, Reuters, AFP) until they understand the difference between objective journalism and an opinion. I think most people don't understand the difference anymore.

[VomKriege]

I don't buy the "I read both sides and form my own opinion" line. Usually that means you read both sides and use confirmation bias to reinforce that your side is right and the other is crazy.

Besides no one really has time for that, or at least with any depth. Reading a traditional newspaper is already a 45mn (?) per day affair if don't skip half the sections. It's always good taking a peek at a variety of outlets though, I guess.

[Himu]

Not gonna lie, kinda bummed Himu is apparently saying she got her news mostly through facebook for the last couple years? Seriously?

Not through what other people posted. I'd read the local paper for the most part, but I would set it so that I'd get an alert any time NYT posted something. Which is pretty convenient. The problem is that this would shield me from everything they posted on the actual site. It was no different than getting an email alert for when they posted something.

[benjipwns]

I don't buy the "I read both sides and form my own opinion" line. Usually that means you read both sides and use confirmation bias to reinforce that your side is right and the other is crazy.

Maybe more importantly it means you only consider there to be two sides to any story.

[Himu]

I don't buy the "I read both sides and form my own opinion" line. Usually that means you read both sides and use confirmation bias to reinforce that your side is right and the other is crazy. Most of the sites in benji's links aren't real journalism, just heavily politicized clickbait.

I subscribe to NYT, Washington Post, and Foreign Policy. I get daily email updates from those and Al-Monitor. The rest of my news comes from my national security/Middle East oriented Twitter feed.

I've said it before, but a lot of people would benefit by giving up their TPMs and Drudges and only get their news from the news wire (AP, Reuters, AFP) until they understand the difference between objective journalism and an opinion. I think most people don't understand the difference anymore.

Great advice. What about sites like Atlantic and Al Jazeera? I like these news sources.

And you're probably right about the both sides thing. I guess I feel this way because of some assignment in college where we had to research how media outlets treat the same story. So I would check out a liberal outlet, a conservative outlet, a moderate outlet, and an international outlet. I found that they told different sides to the same story and that international news outlets were probably one of the best ways to get American news because of the fact of it had more in depth analysis. So I've been a fan of bbc, guardian, and Al Jazeera in the past 11 years since taking that class. Maybe that just formed weird ideas to me on how media is supposed to be, idk. Which is partly why I set up Facebook to give me notifications: I didn't have time to get news in any other way.

I also remember outlets labeling black people as looting and white people just trying to survive during Katrina. This affected me in profound ways. How do I find what's really going on if the media portrays my people as inherently bad? Trusting one news source then, is detrimental to be informed.

I also question stuff like ap being completely objective in light of lightening the fact that Steve Bannon is a white nationalist. They described him as a normal conservative with an edge. Which ties into that last point.

I guess i should read NYT, WSJ, and WaPo every day and then kind of look at the local paper for any issues that are relevant. But mostly just skm it?

[Samson Manhug]

Al Jazeera is not a great place for objective journalism because its own mission statement is being "subversive" journalism. I will read it from time to time about something I'm interested in, but I wouldn't use it as a main source of news. If you want to see what the news looks like when its funded by Gulf Arabs, sure. But keep in mind that AJ is basically the RT of Qatar and they do not have freedom of the press as we would define it.

The Atlantic is not news. It is an opinion magazine. I like reading it, but this is what I mean by the difference between journalism and opinion.

[Himu]

So just get news from ap and Reuters for now? I have an NYT and WaPo sub too.

[Human Snorenado]

I read newswire services (AP, Reuters, Bloomberg) and pre-election also read WaPo and they NYT. I've since dropped the NYT as I felt their election coverage was basically "ok sure Trump, but seriously you guys: EMAILS." Trump was/is a unique threat to the republic, and the WaPo more or less reported on him that way. NYT failed massively and they no longer get my money as a direct result of that failure.

As far as non "objective" news sources (which, in case you're wondering, I subscribe to the Hunter S. Thompson theory on objective journalism) I also read TPM, the Atlantic, NYMag, the Economist, and a bunch of different blogs.

I don't watch tv for news. Ever. When I stopped doing that in about 2010, I became 1) much better informed and 2) much less stressed.

[Samson Manhug]

NYT were critical but they didn't take Trump seriously just like everyone else. They apologized this week and unsurprisingly Trump tweeted doublespeak about it.

I second the not watching TV for news ever thing. Even Twitter is better for live coverage of an unfolding event. At least the uninformed analysis there isn't rewarded with a paycheck and prestige. I will watch foreign TV news when I'm abroad just for the tourist factor, though.

[ToxicAdam]

I just kind of wade through forums, reddit, Digg. Anything worth knowing usually pops up through there.

[Madrun Badrun]

BBC for world news unless its about India.  CBC for Canadian news.

[Great Rumbler]

Talking Points Memo, Media Matters, and Mother Jones just about every day; sites like New Yorker, BBC, and Al Jazeera when something interesting from them pops up on my Facebook feed. Oh, also I watch NHK Newsline.

[VomKriege]

It's not an argument in favor of Al Jazeera but I wouldn't be as staunch as others on what constitute "objective" or "subjective" journalism. There's plenty of bias and internalized ideological assumptions in a lot of the Western press, including with the wire services even if they have much less fat/spin : for instance in the current AP feed, a wire about the military operations in Aleppo mentions figures from the "Syrian Observatory For Human Rights", a much quoted source by all major wire services and journalists but in fact a rather controversial association headed by a Syrian political refugee in Coventry, UK who fled in 2000 and claims to have an extensive network of sources on the ground. Quite a few diplomats and experts are suspicious towards its accuracy (or agenda).

It's not to make a false equivalency between the New York Times, the Pravda (or Russia Today), Al Jazeera and Fox News. But I don't think one should shy away from more outspoken, partisan titles rather than sticking to the usual famous centrist and consensual titles. I've picked up a couple of times the communist newspaper L'humanité because it's the only one covering extensively the economy from the worker perspective, including many smaller labour disputes that are generally unreported (for lack of importance, I guess) in more generalist titles. It comes down to what you are interested in and your own views.

Bias are a fact of life, even in serious journalism or academic discourse. At least when it's honestly disclosed or worn on its sleeve, you know when to take a step back and apply some critical thinking.

[fistfulofmetal]

I'm probably still going to use Facebook/twitter

[Samson Manhug]

It's not an argument in favor of Al Jazeera but I wouldn't be as staunch as others on what constitute "objective" or "subjective" journalism. There's plenty of bias and internalized ideological assumptions in a lot of the Western press, including with the wire services even if they have much less fat/spin : for instance in the current AP feed, a wire about the military operations in Aleppo mentions figures from the "Syrian Observatory For Human Rights", a much quoted source by all major wire services and journalists but in fact a rather controversial association headed by a Syrian political refugee in Coventry, UK who fled in 2000 and claims to have an extensive network of sources on the ground. Quite a few diplomats and experts are suspicious towards its accuracy (or agenda).

It's not to make a false equivalency between the New York Times, the Pravda (or Russia Today), Al Jazeera and Fox News. But I don't think one should shy away from more outspoken, partisan titles rather than sticking to the usual famous centrist and consensual titles. I've picked up a couple of times the communist newspaper L'humanité because it's the only one covering extensively the economy from the worker perspective, including many smaller labour disputes that are generally unreported (for lack of importance, I guess) in more generalist titles. It comes down to what you are interested in and your own views.

Bias are a fact of life, even in serious journalism or academic discourse. At least when it's honestly disclosed or worn on its sleeve, you know when to take a step back and apply some critical thinking.

This is a nice sentiment and I agree with you, but your approach requires a level of critical thinking of the public that if existed, wouldn't have elected Trump (or Brexited).

[VomKriege]

Maybe so but we're talking among the gentleman elite of the Bore here.

[Rufus]

I use Google news for German and international politics. I rarely click through to the stories because who, what, when, where is enough and the why is usually unknown or difficult to decipher anyway. I groomed the feed to exlclude tabloids, sports, tech and such.

[Huff]

I try not to. Ignorance is bliss

[fistfulofmetal]

I use Google news for German and international politics. I rarely click through to the stories because who, what, when, where is enough and the why is usually unknown or difficult to decipher anyway. I groomed the feed to exlclude tabloids, sports, tech and such.

Yeah actually I use Google News as well. I'll swipe through the articles once a day or so and see what's going on.

[Himu]

I read newswire services (AP, Reuters, Bloomberg) and pre-election also read WaPo and they NYT. I've since dropped the NYT as I felt their election coverage was basically "ok sure Trump, but seriously you guys: EMAILS." Trump was/is a unique threat to the republic, and the WaPo more or less reported on him that way. NYT failed massively and they no longer get my money as a direct result of that failure.

As far as non "objective" news sources (which, in case you're wondering, I subscribe to the Hunter S. Thompson theory on objective journalism) I also read TPM, the Atlantic, NYMag, the Economist, and a bunch of different blogs.

I don't watch tv for news. Ever. When I stopped doing that in about 2010, I became 1) much better informed and 2) much less stressed.

how do you stay on top of all these news sources?

[Yulwei]

Twitter. I follow all the decent news outlets plus all the good journos. I also follow a bunch of bad ones to laugh at them.

I haven't watched cable news in a long time.

[CatsCatsCats]

Suppository

[Tasty]

Boston Globe

Vox

Twitter

I've written a user style to hide the news ticket on Facebook and stringently purge my feed of pages whose articles my friends share.

[Madrun Badrun]

with my mouth

[Brehvolution]

I watch fox news and believe the opposite of what they say.

[tiesto]

Usually like an old man:
-Leafing through copies of Newsday, WSJ and NYT at the local deli during lunch
-Watching ABC World News and News 12 (Long Island local news) every night before Jeopardy
-Occasionally checking CNN and MSNBC online

[Tasty]

I use Google news for German and international politics. I rarely click through to the stories because who, what, when, where is enough and the why is usually unknown or difficult to decipher anyway. I groomed the feed to exlclude tabloids, sports, tech and such.

Yeah actually I use Google News as well. I'll swipe through the articles once a day or so and see what's going on.

Hmm might have to take a look at Google News. In general I tend to favor local news but I also like to keep up to date on important national and world news. Google News might be the trick.

[Himu]

how bad is huffington post really considered?

[Tasty]

Well this is serendipitous. Apparently Google Play Newstand finally got a website version in the last day or so.

https://play.google.com/newsstand/web/home

[etiolate]

I never used facebook for news, but rather views. I don't have any news sites on my facebook, but my friends do and they almost all swing heavily to the left. Unfortunately, a lot of what they post is from tabloid level stuff.

I keep a mental list of the dishonest, the crazy and the tabloid. I use reddit, facebook friends, twitter and google to browse through different views, taking into account my mental list of site bias and honesty. I then filter out the bullshit and try to find actual information.

Finding actual information not prefaced and framed by opinion is way too hard. However, I had years of experience doing this with the shitty sports and videogame press. I am not sure, due to the growing tribalism, what the major difference is between SERIOUS press and enthusiast press at this point.

What I like having is various writers that I've found to be honest or at least whose bias is consistent without ruining their work. I like that group of writers to spot around the political map so I can have different views. Unfortunately, I follow most of those people through Twitter and I think Twitter is going to be pushing up daisies in the coming years.

TLDR: If you want a better perspective on things then you're going to have to do more work than a single social media feed.

[Samson Manhug]

how bad is huffington post really considered?

Tucker Carlson (Fox News talking head with the bowtie) created The Daily Caller as a "conservative answer to The Huffington Post" if that helps give you an idea how it is perceived outside of the left. It's like Forbes, Buzzfeed, or Business Insider too where it's relatively easy for anyone to get something published on there.

[Mupepe]

Your average Huffington Post title: X was asked about Y and their response was Z

X = Celebrity
Y = Hot topic of the week
Z = Synonyms for either "everything" or "incredible"

[Great Rumbler]

HP is best consumed in small doses.

[Phoenix Dark]

Facebook

Visiting conservative websites

[toku]

INFOWARS.COM

[TakingBackSunday]

I don't consume news

it consumes me 

[seagrams hotsauce]

Not gonna lie, kinda bummed Himu is apparently saying she got her news mostly through facebook for the last couple years? Seriously?

Not through what other people posted. I'd read the local paper for the most part, but I would set it so that I'd get an alert any time NYT posted something. Which is pretty convenient. The problem is that this would shield me from everything they posted on the actual site. It was no different than getting an email alert for when they posted something.

Ah alright, makes sense. I didn't take you for the type to chew up clickbait from FB friends, glad to see that isn't the case.

[Human Snorenado]

I read newswire services (AP, Reuters, Bloomberg) and pre-election also read WaPo and they NYT. I've since dropped the NYT as I felt their election coverage was basically "ok sure Trump, but seriously you guys: EMAILS." Trump was/is a unique threat to the republic, and the WaPo more or less reported on him that way. NYT failed massively and they no longer get my money as a direct result of that failure.

As far as non "objective" news sources (which, in case you're wondering, I subscribe to the Hunter S. Thompson theory on objective journalism) I also read TPM, the Atlantic, NYMag, the Economist, and a bunch of different blogs.

I don't watch tv for news. Ever. When I stopped doing that in about 2010, I became 1) much better informed and 2) much less stressed.

how do you stay on top of all these news sources?

Most of my current job consists of me sitting at my desk at home, essentially monitoring things. Occasionally I have to do stuff; very occasionally I have to concentrate on work to the exclusion of all else. So, the rest of the time, I keep stuff open in tabs and read anything that looks interesting or important.

[chronovore]

I read newswire services (AP, Reuters, Bloomberg) and pre-election also read WaPo and they NYT. I've since dropped the NYT as I felt their election coverage was basically "ok sure Trump, but seriously you guys: EMAILS." Trump was/is a unique threat to the republic, and the WaPo more or less reported on him that way. NYT failed massively and they no longer get my money as a direct result of that failure.

As far as non "objective" news sources (which, in case you're wondering, I subscribe to the Hunter S. Thompson theory on objective journalism) I also read TPM, the Atlantic, NYMag, the Economist, and a bunch of different blogs.

I don't watch tv for news. Ever. When I stopped doing that in about 2010, I became 1) much better informed and 2) much less stressed.

Yeah, my wife likes to have news on in the morning and evening, and I don't like it. It is a random smattering of the worst stuff in the world at any given moment. It also has an inherently horrible inefficiency to it, which is exacerbated by advertising: "More on that after this message..."

I read my news, usually curated through Google News top hits on any given topic. Usually it's a Reuters/AP piece.

Bad Habits:
I'm a liberal, but I approach anything from HuffPost, Slate, MSNBC, or BoingBoing as though it's got harmful radioactivity. These blow past confirmation bias and into another category entirely.
I reflexively close any website which has a pop-up subscription offer blocking the content.
I block any website that wants access to my OS' notifications.
Also noticed today that LA Times has an ad-block sniffer which hides the page unless you whitelist them. Turns out READER MODE will just show me the text, so consider that circumvented.

[Syph]

I don't buy the "I read both sides and form my own opinion" line. Usually that means you read both sides and use confirmation bias to reinforce that your side is right and the other is crazy. Most of the sites in benji's links aren't real journalism, just heavily politicized clickbait.

I subscribe to NYT, Washington Post, and Foreign Policy. I get daily email updates from those and Al-Monitor. The rest of my news comes from my national security/Middle East oriented Twitter feed.

I've said it before, but a lot of people would benefit by giving up their TPMs and Drudges and only get their news from the news wire (AP, Reuters, AFP) until they understand the difference between objective journalism and an opinion. I think most people don't understand the difference anymore.

I mean, I don't know what you want me to say; I genuinely read the same story multiple times. The dilution in quality of previously reputable news sources (CNN is the immediate and most glaring example) necessitates this.
The irony is that I agree with the rest of your post but it's not like I read Breitbart and then Huffington Post and try to parse the facts. I try and find a more "center" news site, read the article, and then branch out to see if they omitted anything.
If I wanted confirmation bias I'd read strictly op-eds.

NYT were critical but they didn't take Trump seriously just like everyone else. They apologized this week and unsurprisingly Trump tweeted doublespeak about it.

I second the not watching TV for news ever thing. Even Twitter is better for live coverage of an unfolding event. At least the uninformed analysis there isn't rewarded with a paycheck and prestige. I will watch foreign TV news when I'm abroad just for the tourist factor, though.

Two wrongs don't make a right, but doublethink is also deplorable (heh)

[curly]

I'll read the New York Times mostly because of a lack of viable alternatives. Their international coverage in particular is a joke and an extension of the government sources they draw upon. My theory is the transition to an online-subscriber model has really hurt the overall quality of the paper, they're becoming more and more about pursuing a narrow band of yuppie liberals. Al Jazeera is weird in that there are certain subjects where they're clearly getting orders from up high on how to frame their coverage and others where they seem free to do as they please and their coverage is rather high quality.

It's a bad time for traditional news outlets.

[pilonv1]

I get mine from http://www.noagendashow.com/

[Himu]

How does WaPo's book list compare to NYT's?

[Syph]

Basically I find out how Syph gets his news, and I do the opposite.

spoiler (click to show/hide)

so facebook?

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[Samson Manhug]

FYI: Washington Post offeres FREE subscriptions to gov, mil, and edu email addresses. If you aren't a student anymore, your univeristy probably offers an alumni address.

http://help.washingtonpost.com/link/portal/15067/15080/Article/628/How-do-I-activate-my-gov-mil-edu-free-subscription

[Himu]

I've paired it down after a few days of research.

Houston Chronicle for local news. Take a gander at the cover page, and check local section.

AP for general national and world news. It'll be used as a quick highlight while I drink my morning tea.

Then Washington Post for national news/world news/books/culture. My main news source. Considering getting the paper daily.

Financial Times for more technical economy/finance broadcast and news.

My hope is that I can complete this in an hour in mornings. Will check back at WaPo throughout the day. Subscribed to mags like The Atlantic and Wired. I think I'm good. Anything else I'll see on facebook or twitter.