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And both are better than Warren Beatty's Dick Tracy!
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Re: Alec Baldwin's The Shadow is better than Billy Zane's The Phantom
« Reply #1 on: January 25, 2007, 10:20:54 PM »
I watched this movie a few weeks back, I was going to make a topic about it being awesome but I wasnt sure how it would go.
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Re: Alec Baldwin's The Shadow is better than Billy Zane's The Phantom
« Reply #2 on: January 25, 2007, 10:22:15 PM »
Come on William :-\

What's wrong with Dick Tracy?
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Re: Alec Baldwin's The Shadow is better than Billy Zane's The Phantom
« Reply #3 on: January 25, 2007, 10:23:41 PM »
I dunno, I liked The Phantom better because it was a goofy Raiders knockoff.  The Shadow was a colossal disappointment to a longtime Shadow fan like myself.  The Shadow should be killing criminals while laughing about it, not shooting the guns out of their hands.  And the camp elements were completely out of place.
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Re: Alec Baldwin's The Shadow is better than Billy Zane's The Phantom
« Reply #4 on: January 25, 2007, 10:26:48 PM »
I'm not saying The Shadow is the bee's knees, but in terms of the whole 90s resurrection of mid-century pulp heroes, it's one of the better ones out there.

Also, The Phantom was awful and very homoerotic.
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Re: Alec Baldwin's The Shadow is better than Billy Zane's The Phantom
« Reply #5 on: January 25, 2007, 10:36:34 PM »
I didn't notice any homoeroticism.  I was too busy noticing all the rejected Indiana Jones stunts and Catherine Zeta Jones.  I wish The Shadow would have been based on the Andy Helfer/Kyle Baker comics if they were going to do something different.
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Re: Alec Baldwin's The Shadow is better than Billy Zane's The Phantom
« Reply #6 on: January 25, 2007, 10:38:17 PM »
And :lol at Dick Tracy.
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Re: Alec Baldwin's The Shadow is better than Billy Zane's The Phantom
« Reply #7 on: January 25, 2007, 10:39:11 PM »
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Re: Alec Baldwin's The Shadow is better than Billy Zane's The Phantom
« Reply #8 on: January 25, 2007, 10:39:35 PM »
Come on William :-\

What's wrong with Dick Tracy?

It was the worst comic-to-film adaptation previous to Spider-Man, dude.  Emulating the colors of the comic strip was just not very pleasing to the eye.  And trying to get Madonna to act automatically puts you in 2 star territory.
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Re: Alec Baldwin's The Shadow is better than Billy Zane's The Phantom
« Reply #9 on: January 25, 2007, 10:40:01 PM »
Dick Tracy is pretty bad except for the great makeup FX on the villains.  Warren Beatty is such a wooden putz in every movie he's in (well, except for Bonnie and Clyde, he was okay in that).
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Re: Alec Baldwin's The Shadow is better than Billy Zane's The Phantom
« Reply #10 on: January 25, 2007, 10:40:44 PM »
The best of the mid-century pulp hero craze was The Rocketeer, which I am sure all of us can agree on.

Warren Beatty is awful, Madonna is awful, the story is awful - wait! - there was a story?  Dick Tracy is a laugh riot.
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« Reply #11 on: January 25, 2007, 10:41:23 PM »
I dug the Rocketeer.  They really captured the feel of the Dave Stevens work (which he still hasn't finished).  Rondo Hatton 4ever!
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Re: Alec Baldwin's The Shadow is better than Billy Zane's The Phantom
« Reply #12 on: January 25, 2007, 10:42:47 PM »
The best of the mid-century pulp hero craze was The Rocketeer, which I am sure all of us can agree on.

Warren Beatty is awful, Madonna is awful, the story is awful - wait! - there was a story?  Dick Tracy is a laugh riot.

The Rocketeer was really cool, at least in its day.  I haven't seen it recently or anything.

Yeah, Dick Tracy was a round the court disaster.  That awful color scheme is the first thing I think of, though.
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Re: Alec Baldwin's The Shadow is better than Billy Zane's The Phantom
« Reply #13 on: January 25, 2007, 10:44:23 PM »
And the fact that a 53 year old man is playing youthful detective Dick Tracy.
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Re: Alec Baldwin's The Shadow is better than Billy Zane's The Phantom
« Reply #14 on: January 25, 2007, 10:46:48 PM »
The only positive thing I can take from Dick Tracy are a few Danny Elfman tracks from the score, although The Shadow had a much better and original score.
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Re: Alec Baldwin's The Shadow is better than Billy Zane's The Phantom
« Reply #15 on: January 25, 2007, 10:47:19 PM »
There needs to be a movie version of The Spider:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Spider

That's one fucked-up pulp hero.
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Re: Alec Baldwin's The Shadow is better than Billy Zane's The Phantom
« Reply #16 on: January 25, 2007, 10:55:17 PM »
He sounds like a villain that Batman would fight.
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Re: Alec Baldwin's The Shadow is better than Billy Zane's The Phantom
« Reply #17 on: January 25, 2007, 11:14:05 PM »
Will, did you know Bruce almost played The Phantom?
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Re: Alec Baldwin's The Shadow is better than Billy Zane's The Phantom
« Reply #18 on: January 25, 2007, 11:14:42 PM »
Qft, this whole thread.

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Re: Alec Baldwin's The Shadow is better than Billy Zane's The Phantom
« Reply #19 on: January 25, 2007, 11:15:33 PM »
Will, did you know Bruce almost played The Phantom?

Yeah, but then he was like, "I don't want to be in this piece of crap!"
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Re: Alec Baldwin's The Shadow is better than Billy Zane's The Phantom
« Reply #20 on: January 25, 2007, 11:17:51 PM »
And did Congo, Assault on Dome 4, Escape from L.A., and Tornado! instead...
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Re: Alec Baldwin's The Shadow is better than Billy Zane's The Phantom
« Reply #21 on: January 25, 2007, 11:18:59 PM »
And did Congo, Assault on Dome 4, Escape from L.A., and Tornado! instead...

Sounds like he made great choices.
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Re: Alec Baldwin's The Shadow is better than Billy Zane's The Phantom
« Reply #22 on: January 25, 2007, 11:22:23 PM »
Hey, his role in Escape from L.A. is awesome.
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