The Fate of the Furious [2017 MOTY]

[toku]

[benjipwns]

civil war and batman v superman am cry

[Great Rumbler]

YES

[Joe Molotov]

"What if they had to race a Soviet nuclear sub across an ice shelf in Antarctica?"

"That's in the movie!"

[Tasty]

I thought I was prepared for that trailer.

I wasn't.

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In general I don't care for action schlock but there's enough self-awareness and (just barely enough) heart that I've come around 180 on this series. Watching F7 in theaters with work bros who have always loved the series was one of my best theater experiences ever.

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[benjipwns]

[benjipwns]

[chronovore]

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This movie is what every kid hoped their Hot Wheels race would become.

[chronovore]

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"How many times have we landed planes on the cars, or driven cars onto a plane?"
"Like a hundred times."
"Okay, can we have stuff come in from the side instead of above?"
"No, that doesn't work."
...
"How about something comes from below?"


Furious 9: massive, C'thuloid vehicle enters the scene transdimensionally.

[benjipwns]

This movie is what every kid hoped their Hot Wheels race would become.

i told you guys, the onion doesn't post fake news

[eleuin]

Hope there's no twist and Dom just became infatuated with Theron's pussy

[Rahxephon91]

[Momo]

didnt see you guys made an entire thread for this movie

[Himu]

YES YES YES YES YES YES

[chronovore]

YES YES YES YES YES YES

But how do you really feel? 

[BobFromPikeCreek]

A fucking submarine

I love these movies.

[helios]

It schlock. It's stupid. I want it.

[Yeti]

The next one is going to be called Fnineal Furiousy

[Himu]

FURIOUS ROW

[chronovore]

FURIOUS ROW

No joke, one of my friends said he thought it was similar to Saints Row:

The trailer smacks of that game you were into... the name of which I can't remember even though I looked it up right after I saw the trailer.  You know the game--it's basically GTA only you can play as an extraterrestrial pimp penguin with a diamond baseball bat or something.

[Himu]

Been saying it for years!

[benjipwns]

[benjipwns]

the torpedo

[toku]

https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2017-fast-and-furious/

[benjipwns]

[Joe Molotov]

Exporting democracy

[benjipwns]

Exporting family

[Bebpo]

Got invited to go see this tonight, but gonna pass.  Really liked some of the last 3 (7 > 5 > 6) but the trailer for this one looked lame (dom goes evil oh no what happens to family!!) and reading all the critic reviews the consensus seems to be that it's ok but not great like 5-7.

[chronovore]

Got invited to go see this tonight, but gonna pass.  Really liked some of the last 3 (7 > 5 > 6) but the trailer for this one looked lame (dom goes evil oh no what happens to family!!) and reading all the critic reviews the consensus seems to be that it's ok but not great like 5-7.

This is not the kind of thing you should post to The Bore. Do you want to be murdered in the Digital Realm? 

[Huff]

Bad bepbo

[Bebpo]

Sorry, I'm gonna double down on this.  Hero turning what appears to be bad because they've secretly got a good reason for it that they don't tell anyone and then old comrades fight them and DRAMA DRAMA DRAMA is like one of the worst angsty tropes in storytelling and that's not what I want out of the FF franchise.

The reason the other FF movies were awesome (at least the last three) were that they were fun positive teamwork movies.  Feel good and do crazy ridiculous shit and save the day movies.  I don't want serious angst FAMILY DRAMA movie :|  I watch FF to have pure exhilarating fun.  I'm sure I'll see the next FF movie, but the plot of this one does not appeal to me at all.

[benjipwns]

mods help

[benjipwns]

why don't you just go watch a lumet movie

[chronovore]

Sorry, I'm gonna double down on this.  Hero turning what appears to be bad because they've secretly got a good reason for it that they don't tell anyone and then old comrades fight them and DRAMA DRAMA DRAMA is like one of the worst angsty tropes in storytelling and that's not what I want out of the FF franchise.

The reason the other FF movies were awesome (at least the last three) were that they were fun positive teamwork movies.  Feel good and do crazy ridiculous shit and save the day movies.  I don't want serious angst FAMILY DRAMA movie :|  I watch FF to have pure exhilarating fun.  I'm sure I'll see the next FF movie, but the plot of this one does not appeal to me at all.

I thought we all like Fast & Furious because it's one-stop-shopping for angsty tropes.

[bork]

Got invited to go see this tonight, but gonna pass.  Really liked some of the last 3 (7 > 5 > 6) but the trailer for this one looked lame (dom goes evil oh no what happens to family!!) and reading all the critic reviews the consensus seems to be that it's ok but not great like 5-7.

Sorry, I'm gonna double down on this.  Hero turning what appears to be bad because they've secretly got a good reason for it that they don't tell anyone and then old comrades fight them and DRAMA DRAMA DRAMA is like one of the worst angsty tropes in storytelling and that's not what I want out of the FF franchise.

The reason the other FF movies were awesome (at least the last three) were that they were fun positive teamwork movies.  Feel good and do crazy ridiculous shit and save the day movies.  I don't want serious angst FAMILY DRAMA movie :|  I watch FF to have pure exhilarating fun.  I'm sure I'll see the next FF movie, but the plot of this one does not appeal to me at all.

I watch FF to have pure exhilarating fun.

As does everyone else...how did you not get that this wouldn't be more crazy over-the-top shit from the trailer?  Come on, Beps.

[Madrun Badrun]

Sorry, I'm gonna double down on this.  Hero turning what appears to be bad because they've secretly got a good reason for it that they don't tell anyone and then old comrades fight them and DRAMA DRAMA DRAMA is like one of the worst angsty tropes in storytelling and that's not what I want out of the FF franchise.

The reason the other FF movies were awesome (at least the last three) were that they were fun positive teamwork movies.  Feel good and do crazy ridiculous shit and save the day movies.  I don't want serious angst FAMILY DRAMA movie :|  I watch FF to have pure exhilarating fun.  I'm sure I'll see the next FF movie, but the plot of this one does not appeal to me at all.

blocked

[Joe Molotov]

Sorry, I'm gonna double down on this.  Hero turning what appears to be bad because they've secretly got a good reason for it that they don't tell anyone and then old comrades fight them and DRAMA DRAMA DRAMA is like one of the worst angsty tropes in storytelling and that's not what I want out of the FF franchise.

The reason the other FF movies were awesome (at least the last three) were that they were fun positive teamwork movies.  Feel good and do crazy ridiculous shit and save the day movies.  I don't want serious angst FAMILY DRAMA movie :|  I watch FF to have pure exhilarating fun.  I'm sure I'll see the next FF movie, but the plot of this one does not appeal to me at all.

I thought we all like Fast & Furious because it's one-stop-shopping for angsty tropes.

no, we watch it for the gay subtext

[thisismyusername]

Sorry, I'm gonna double down on this.  Hero turning what appears to be bad because they've secretly got a good reason for it that they don't tell anyone and then old comrades fight them and DRAMA DRAMA DRAMA is like one of the worst angsty tropes in storytelling and that's not what I want out of the FF franchise.

The reason the other FF movies were awesome (at least the last three) were that they were fun positive teamwork movies.  Feel good and do crazy ridiculous shit and save the day movies.  I don't want serious angst FAMILY DRAMA movie :|  I watch FF to have pure exhilarating fun.  I'm sure I'll see the next FF movie, but the plot of this one does not appeal to me at all.

I thought we all like Fast & Furious because it's one-stop-shopping for angsty tropes.

no, we watch it for the gay subtext

Sorry, I'm gonna double down on this.  Hero turning what appears to be bad because they've secretly got a good reason for it that they don't tell anyone and then old comrades fight them and DRAMA DRAMA DRAMA is like one of the worst angsty tropes in storytelling and that's not what I want out of the FF franchise.

The reason the other FF movies were awesome (at least the last three) were that they were fun positive teamwork movies.  Feel good and do crazy ridiculous shit and save the day movies.  I don't want serious angst FAMILY DRAMA movie :|  I watch FF to have pure exhilarating fun.  I'm sure I'll see the next FF movie, but the plot of this one does not appeal to me at all.

Got invited to go see this tonight, but gonna pass.  Really liked some of the last 3 (7 > 5 > 6) but the trailer for this one looked lame (dom goes evil oh no what happens to family!!) and reading all the critic reviews the consensus seems to be that it's ok but not great like 5-7.

[Bebpo]

You guys win.  When we seeing it?

[Madrun Badrun]

Too late.  You have shown your true colours.  I might be able to forgive you 3 movies down the line if we end up going under cover to take down a drug dealer that killed (not really) my girlfriend but only because my sister loves you.   

[fistfulofmetal]

So did anyone go see it?

My thoughts:

I'm a little hot a little cold on it overall. There were some legit great moments but quite a few set pieces and sequences that fell flat to me. It also just didn't hit quite the right tone that the previous movies did. I can say that it's immediately noticeable this is directed by a different person, like 7 was, but that at least felt consistent with the series. This feels like a different thing all together. But I think there's a really cool setup for the next two that comes off the back of this so if they manage to stick that, it'll be worth it in the end. It's still pretty entertaining but a step down from the previous entries.

spoiler (click to show/hide)

The opening scene was terrible. Legitimately bad and it took awhile for me to reorient and for the movie to win be back. The entire premise and action sequence of the Cuba stuff was just embarrassingly poorly scripted and  executed.

I did appreciate that they didn't drag out Dom's motivations until the end and instead made his side of the story a major factor of the film, especially him trying to worm his way out from under Cipher's foot.

The first half of the NYC setpiece with the "zombie" cars was a whole lot of nothing to me. Some super spotty CGI effects and it just looked lame overall. However the second half where Dom faces off against his team was super fun.

The final setpiece also had the same problem where there was a lot of spotty CGI but as it went it got better. Really the entire final set piece doesn't get good until Jason Statham shows up again. From then onward to the ending was a big thumbs up and I left the theater with a positive impression

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I think my overall problem with the movie is that it just doesn't feel like a part of the series a lot of the time. It feels like it's trying to be something else and not doing a very good job. Like... it wants to be a super slick spy movie? But the writing isn't backing it up, and the characters are as well written either. There are moments where it feels like we're there, tho, where it feels like we're back in thee F&F series and in those moments are when the movie is at it's best.

Like I said, I enjoyed it but it's probably my least favorite outside of 2 and the fourth.

[chronovore]

Sorry, I'm gonna double down on this.  Hero turning what appears to be bad because they've secretly got a good reason for it that they don't tell anyone and then old comrades fight them and DRAMA DRAMA DRAMA is like one of the worst angsty tropes in storytelling and that's not what I want out of the FF franchise.

The reason the other FF movies were awesome (at least the last three) were that they were fun positive teamwork movies.  Feel good and do crazy ridiculous shit and save the day movies.  I don't want serious angst FAMILY DRAMA movie :|  I watch FF to have pure exhilarating fun.  I'm sure I'll see the next FF movie, but the plot of this one does not appeal to me at all.

I thought we all like Fast & Furious because it's one-stop-shopping for angsty tropes.

no, we watch it for the gay subtext

[bork]

So did anyone go see it?

My thoughts:

I'm a little hot a little cold on it overall. There were some legit great moments but quite a few set pieces and sequences that fell flat to me. It also just didn't hit quite the right tone that the previous movies did. I can say that it's immediately noticeable this is directed by a different person, like 7 was, but that at least felt consistent with the series. This feels like a different thing all together. But I think there's a really cool setup for the next two that comes off the back of this so if they manage to stick that, it'll be worth it in the end. It's still pretty entertaining but a step down from the previous entries.

spoiler (click to show/hide)

The opening scene was terrible. Legitimately bad and it took awhile for me to reorient and for the movie to win be back. The entire premise and action sequence of the Cuba stuff was just embarrassingly poorly scripted and  executed.

I did appreciate that they didn't drag out Dom's motivations until the end and instead made his side of the story a major factor of the film, especially him trying to worm his way out from under Cipher's foot.

The first half of the NYC setpiece with the "zombie" cars was a whole lot of nothing to me. Some super spotty CGI effects and it just looked lame overall. However the second half where Dom faces off against his team was super fun.

The final setpiece also had the same problem where there was a lot of spotty CGI but as it went it got better. Really the entire final set piece doesn't get good until Jason Statham shows up again. From then onward to the ending was a big thumbs up and I left the theater with a positive impression

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I think my overall problem with the movie is that it just doesn't feel like a part of the series a lot of the time. It feels like it's trying to be something else and not doing a very good job. Like... it wants to be a super slick spy movie? But the writing isn't backing it up, and the characters are as well written either. There are moments where it feels like we're there, tho, where it feels like we're back in thee F&F series and in those moments are when the movie is at it's best.

Like I said, I enjoyed it but it's probably my least favorite outside of 2 and the fourth.

I agree with you.  It felt like more complete movie than 7 was, but I'm not sure if I'd put it above 7.  5 and 6 are still far and away the best movies in the series.  There were enough crazy scenes to make this worth watching, but it's really starting to feel like a departure from what this series was and what it became after 4.  Also the "face turn" for Shaw was just weird.  Gotta spoiler the rest of my thoughts:

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-I liked the opening scene in Havana.  That was very much reminiscent of the old F&F movies. 
-It's almost like they feel obligated to have at least one scene in any one of these movies that's ASS ASS ASS CARS ASS ASS. 
-Cipher is an 'eh' villain.  I didn't feel like she was anywhere near as menacing as she should have been.
-What is with taking cast members and killing them off?    Did they really need to off Elena like that?
-It took too long for them to reveal why Dom was doing what he was doing.  Should have made it apparent from the start.
-The Shaw brothers basically being turned into good guys was just weird.  They retconned Han's death before to introduce Statham's character and now retconned their characters to make it so that they were also 'used' by Cipher.  Ugh.  Just stop.
-Furthermore, we have Shaw rescuing Dom's baby and then sitting with them at the end of the movie.  REMEMBER HOW HE KILLED HAN!? 
-I did like the plane sequence with Shaw, although it felt like it was from another movie. 
-So let me get this straight, from a purely storyline perspective- They can't go to Brian and Mia for help, because they have a family...but then Dom gets a freaking BABY and now is in the same boat. 

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[Joe Molotov]

$100 Million domestic, $530+ Million worldwide cume. Vin Diesel 2020.

[eleuin]

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of course they retconned the retcon of han's death 

[close]

watch these films for any semblance of a plot brehs

[chronovore]

https://m.

[Momo]

'Fast and Furious 9 and 10 confirmed, Vin Diesel and Dwayne Johnson 'signed up' to return'

After reading this I kinda realized FntF is Saints Row games in movie form, I hope the alien invasion on Fast is as entertaining as Zinyak.

[Great Rumbler]

F&F 9 is set in space.

F&F 10 feature time travel back to prehistoric times.

[fistfulofmetal]

Fast to the Future
The Past and the Furious

[bork]

One of the writers was recently talking about not ruling out bringing dead characters back.

I mean, I guess they already have done with with Letty and whatnot.  Watch Han come back. 

[Joe Molotov]

One of the writers was recently talking about not ruling out bringing dead characters back.

I mean, I guess they already have done with with Letty and whatnot.  Watch Han come back. 

CG Paul Walker

[Brehvolution]

F&F 9 is set in space.

F&F 10 feature time travel back to prehistoric times.

[thisismyusername]

One of the writers was recently talking about not ruling out bringing dead characters back.

I mean, I guess they already have done with with Letty and whatnot.  Watch Han come back. 

Letty didn't "die" though.

[chronovore]

F&F 9 is set in space.

F&F 10 feature time travel back to prehistoric times.

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FF9 will be the long anticipated tie-in to Riddick, then: The Fast, the Furious, and the Riddickulous.

[bork]

One of the writers was recently talking about not ruling out bringing dead characters back.

I mean, I guess they already have done with with Letty and whatnot.  Watch Han come back. 

Letty didn't "die" though.

Letty was "dead" until they decided to bring the character back in another movie. Han was also dead in Tokyo Drift, but they just kept ignoring it and making it so that FF3 took place at a later time.  They clearly didn't want the character out of the films.  I don't believe for a second that they planned all this stuff out like that ahead of time.  Letty could be the exception (those movies all had the same writer), but something tells me it's more due to the actor deciding to be done or having other commitments, and then coming back. 

[bluemax]

F&F 9 is set in space.

F&F 10 feature time travel back to prehistoric times.

One of my college roommates made that movie already:

[benjipwns]

By its opening weekend, the film had already passed Tim Story's Fantastic Four ($330 million in 2005) to become the highest-grossing film ever directed by an African-American filmmaker.

America's racist past redeemed

[thisismyusername]

One of the writers was recently talking about not ruling out bringing dead characters back.

I mean, I guess they already have done with with Letty and whatnot.  Watch Han come back. 

Letty didn't "die" though.

Letty was "dead" until they decided to bring the character back in another movie. Han was also dead in Tokyo Drift, but they just kept ignoring it and making it so that FF3 took place at a later time.  They clearly didn't want the character out of the films.  I don't believe for a second that they planned all this stuff out like that ahead of time.  Letty could be the exception (those movies all had the same writer), but something tells me it's more due to the actor deciding to be done or having other commitments, and then coming back. 

I mean, sure. But the Letty thing was "off-camera." It's the same with most medium's deaths: If it doesn't happen on camera, it didn't happen.

They pushed the Han thing back because they wanted him back despite the fact they showed him blowing up in a car in Tokyo Drift. Which is funny because he gets a girl in these later ones and leaves with her before going to Tokyo.

[chronovore]

Arguing continuity in the F&F series is like talking about cartoon physics.