Dave Chappelle: Collection 1 Netflix Stand-Up Special

[FatalT]

Discuss the comeback of Chappelle and how he's still got it after all these years. Leave any Elf-politics or LGBT complaining bullshit to the Hug Box.

I've watched half of it so far and I'm going to finish the rest of it tonight. I loved the "Key & Peele have been doing my job for me" bit.

[nachobro]

Watched it over two nights. The bit about his kid in the second episode still has me laughing today. Both "she had it coming" and crying like Tupac make me crack up just thinking about it.

In the first special

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the "he rapes but he saves" was just perfect. Awesome way to tie back to another goofy as joke and also shows that he recognizes that hero worship of Cosby is seen in a totally different light.

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All kinds of little quick hits are just so well done. The cereal eating, the Flint thing, and yeah the line about Key and Peele. All excellent. Dude is 100% back in form and I'm just hyped to watch the new one when it hits.

On a side note all these comedy specials from Netflix is a great thing to see since I actually have been using it mostly to watch comedy anyway. Jim Norton's was another great one, was a little bummed that Burr's was flatter than his usual sets.

[bork]

HEY DIDJA SEE WHO WAS IN THE FRONT ROW THERE?!?

...

I enjoyed the first special a whole bunch.  Laughed my ass off; loved the OJ shit.  Halfway through the second and I like it, but not as much as the first one.

And this stuff isn't as good as his old stuff was, but I'm still happy as shit to see new specials from him.

[nachobro]

his voice though. it shocked the hell out of me...all those cigs bro. I was at a show of his in Santa Fe a couple years ago (yes the one with the banana peel) and it sounded rough but it's changed even since then

[Momo]

I dont have netflix but i see the first two are out on internet dvr places, 12GB. I'll watch it soonish, love Chappelle

[Positive Touch]

here, Queen wanted me to post this:

I find your latest tirades misguided.

Saying "no lgbt bullshit" in the Dave Chappelle thread is also misguided.
Dave complaining about racism but scoffing at lgbt issues while trans women of color are beaten and killed and no one cares, is pretty big deal, and the fact that Chappelle applies the idea that lgbt = white is fucked up. What black LGBT people have to go through is pretty harsh, and Chappelle pretending that we don't exist as he goes on his tirades against our culture while talking about blackness is a spit in the face.

This makes him a dumb ass at best, flaming hypocrite at worst.
And labeling any criticism aimed his way as sjw bullshit is incredibly foolish.

you have essentially taken the extremes of neogaf and applied it to a situation you're probably not entirely familiar with because of gaf's ridiculousness. That said, I have not watched special, and I will not have any trouble doing so probably. After all, I'm a massive fan of movies like The Warriors, where the word taco is used pretty liberally.

This doesn't mean people shouldn't be able to talk about it, especially if Dave is going to use his stand up to talk politics as usual. If Dave is going to address politics, then addressing his politics is fair game. You're just too craven to stand up to it because of a bunch of uptight assholes at gaf.

Not that it bothers me because I no longer contribute to the dumpster fire that is game forums. I just wanted to point out that your points are reactionary to neogaf's idiocy rather than holding any measured discussion,  which makes your position look equally as extreme as gaf's.

[bork]

Let Queen come here and post herself instead of just lurking and sending responses for others to post for her.

[CatsCatsCats]

Especially if she can't bother to differentiate us from GAF

[WanderingWind]

That Beyonce/Jay-Z closer to the LA special is still making me crack up days later.

[nudemacusers]

"Not that it bothers me because I no longer contribute to the dumpster fire that is game forums."

 

[FatalT]

This thread was meant to discuss the comedy special and enjoy the jokes, not for whining. Take that to the hug box thread Positive Touch. She also messaged me on Facebook. I shouldn't have bothered responding. Didn't know she had a falling out with The BORE but still lurks it like some sort of creepy stalker.

[FatalT]

Yeah who would lurk a message board they can't/don't post on anymore

Waiting on the new round of approvals for dat alt account

[Positive Touch]

This thread was meant to discuss the comedy special and enjoy the jokes, not for whining. Take that to the hug box thread Positive Touch.

wow don't be so sensitive bro

[FatalT]

This thread was meant to discuss the comedy special and enjoy the jokes, not for whining. Take that to the hug box thread Positive Touch.

wow don't be so sensitive bro

My
Bad
Fam

[bork]

Yeah who would lurk a message board they can't/don't post on anymore

Waiting on the new round of approvals for dat alt account

...why?

[FatalT]

Yeah who would lurk a message board they can't/don't post on anymore

Waiting on the new round of approvals for dat alt account

...why?

100 posts per page and dat dark theme

[nudemacusers]

Dark theme is for people who put black lights in their computer, drink monster, and primarily listen to video game music. 

[Rufus]

Dark theme is for people who put black lights in their computer, drink monster, and primarily listen to video game music. 

And if it's because of the glare and eye strain, install Flux like a civilized person. 

[nachobro]

100 posts per page and dat dark theme

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/index.php?&styleid=40 dark theme

[Samson Manhug]

Maybe I’m a snowflake now, but I thought a lot of his jokes and terminology to be kind of dated in regards to rape and lgbtqi issues. I mean he uses a slur for gays for no reason. He jokes about making a woman suck his dick. Look at the crowd during the Cosby bits—the women are clearly uncomfortable.

I’m concerned that because of his popularity bigoted white men will feel emboldened to be a little more openly bigoted. “What? I’m just quoting Dave Chapelle! Relax!”



Maybe his time was a decade ago and that’s the way it’s going to be. Things are differently now and rightly so. He’ll have to adapt or be remembered as a great ‘00s comedian.

[etiolate]

You're a fucking idiot Samson.


I watched the first special. The awkwardness of being gone so long out of the spotlight and then watching his kid love Kevin Hart was a great little story. The spreading out of the OJ stories was a nice way to have a comedic backbeat.

Watching the second one later.

[Joe Molotov]

[FatalT]

Dark theme is for people who put black lights in their computer, drink monster, and primarily listen to video game music. 

Speaking of blasting Zelda music in a car driving around, what happened to PhoenixDark?

100 posts per page and dat dark theme

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/index.php?&styleid=40 dark theme

Touché salesman. It doesn't work on mobile though, granted mobile phones have auto brightness so it's not a big deal, especially since Apple added the Night Shift mode.

[Phoenix Dark]

oh no he made jokes about stuff

I watched some of it last night and tbh wasn't feeling it at all. I'll finish it this weekend.

[FatalT]

oh no he made jokes about stuff

I watched some of it last night and tbh wasn't feeling it at all. I'll finish it this weekend.

There you are <3

[PlayDat]

Maybe his time was a decade ago and that’s the way it’s going to be. Things are differently now and rightly so. He’ll have to adapt or be remembered as a great ‘00s comedian.

I've had the same thought about George Carlin in recent years.  I really enjoyed watching his bits from the 70s and 80s on YouTube when I was in my early teens.  These days the thought of listening to an old white man ranting about how we've gotten "too politically correct" strikes me as mostly pathetic and boring at best.

[Trent Dole]

I’m concerned that because of his popularity bigoted white men will feel emboldened to be a little more openly bigoted. “What? I’m just quoting Dave Chapelle! Relax!”

We've already got shitheads spraying swastikas around and calling in bomb threats to fucking children's centers, can't really get much worse than it already is.

[Nola]

Maybe I’m a snowflake now, but I thought a lot of his jokes and terminology to be kind of dated in regards to rape and lgbtqi issues. I mean he uses a slur for gays for no reason. He jokes about making a woman suck his dick. Look at the crowd during the Cosby bits—the women are clearly uncomfortable.

I’m concerned that because of his popularity bigoted white men will feel emboldened to be a little more openly bigoted. “What? I’m just quoting Dave Chapelle! Relax!”



Maybe his time was a decade ago and that’s the way it’s going to be. Things are differently now and rightly so. He’ll have to adapt or be remembered as a great ‘00s comedian.

The rape thing was pretty fucking brilliant. It was a long joke that basically begged the important question a lot of this current year has failed to grasp, that the human condition is complex and things can not be judged on a black and white scale. All or nothing. Cosby is a monster but lets also take a moment to understand why things played out like they did with some people wanting to convince themselves differently. Which is thought inducing in the sense of how all our biases shape the way we view things.

I would need a bit more specifics on the LGBTQ stuff though. I guess the whole go out and decide who is more gay and they are the wife thing? But even that was part of a larger commentary about the unfortunate but necessary way change is achieved and that is through incrementalism. Slow your roll or you will get steamrolled or however he was talking about it.

It reminds me of the endless threads on GAF(or reddit or eye-rolling stuck up millennial blogs) about how people would vilify Bill and Hillary because they didn't take a 2016 type stance on a political issue like gay marriage in 1993. Or how Obama was a fraud because he didn't come out in strong support of gay marriage in 2008.

If some low IQ shitheads that can't recognize that Chappelle's heart is in the right place, and often his brain as well, and they use this stuff to calcify their prejudice, thats a pre-existing condition and shouldn't be a reason to try and censor or condemn the comedy.

[FatalT]

I’m concerned that because of his popularity bigoted white men will feel emboldened to be a little more openly bigoted. “What? I’m just quoting Dave Chapelle! Relax!”

We've already got shitheads spraying swastikas around and calling in bomb threats to fucking children's centers, can't really get much worse than it already is.

Isn't that why Chappelle disappeared from the public view in the first place? White supremacists using his rhetoric and the "Clayton Bigsy" skit to disadvantage minorities? I don't blame him. Fuck that.

[FatalT]

'I was like “How the fuck are transgender people beating black people in the discrimination Olympics? If the police shot half as many transgenders as they did niccas last year there would be a fucking war in L.A. I know black dudes in Brooklyn, hard, street motherfuckers, who wear high heels just to feel safe.”'

[thisismyusername]

I get what he's saying, but nah man... nah.

[nudemacusers]

Hmm some of the stuff was funny but a lot of it felt like encino man unfrozen from block of ice zzz tired dad jokes.

[benjipwns]

coming soon the Louder with Crowder tour featuring PewDiePie, JonTron, Dunkey, some British comedian everyone links you to from youtube but doesn't actually do sets with "jokes" or "punchlines" just complains about American politics, and Dave Chappelle

[benjipwns]

Dunkey

justifies it

yassss slay queen slay

[Samson Manhug]

Maybe I’m a snowflake now, but I thought a lot of his jokes and terminology to be kind of dated in regards to rape and lgbtqi issues. I mean he uses a slur for gays for no reason. He jokes about making a woman suck his dick. Look at the crowd during the Cosby bits—the women are clearly uncomfortable.

I’m concerned that because of his popularity bigoted white men will feel emboldened to be a little more openly bigoted. “What? I’m just quoting Dave Chapelle! Relax!”



Maybe his time was a decade ago and that’s the way it’s going to be. Things are differently now and rightly so. He’ll have to adapt or be remembered as a great ‘00s comedian.

The rape thing was pretty fucking brilliant. It was a long joke that basically begged the important question a lot of this current year has failed to grasp, that the human condition is complex and things can not be judged on a black and white scale. All or nothing. Cosby is a monster but lets also take a moment to understand why things played out like they did with some people wanting to convince themselves differently. Which is thought inducing in the sense of how all our biases shape the way we view things.

I would need a bit more specifics on the LGBTQ stuff though. I guess the whole go out and decide who is more gay and they are the wife thing? But even that was part of a larger commentary about the unfortunate but necessary way change is achieved and that is through incrementalism. Slow your roll or you will get steamrolled or however he was talking about it.

It reminds me of the endless threads on GAF(or reddit or eye-rolling stuck up millennial blogs) about how people would vilify Bill and Hillary because they didn't take a 2016 type stance on a political issue like gay marriage in 1993. Or how Obama was a fraud because he didn't come out in strong support of gay marriage in 2008.

If some low IQ shitheads that can't recognize that Chappelle's heart is in the right place, and often his brain as well, and they use this stuff to calcify their prejudice, thats a pre-existing condition and shouldn't be a reason to try and censor or condemn the comedy.

Every time you post something I think of the Facebook group sounds liberal but ok.

[benjipwns]

a word bank??? oh my

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1bzxr7ANkHuRoAub-bcGAA6mFq71670-ZDkZLHSfpwFY

[benjipwns]

wew

[Positive Touch]

Jesus fucking Christ why can't we just say we like some ignorant-ass offensive jokes instead of trying to convince everyone they're not offensive? try it guys; trust me, it's easy.

[benjipwns]

Performative Allyship- When a non-marginalized person displays their “allyship” and “solidarity” with a marginalized people through silent statements as opposed to real actions, thus serving no real purpose than to make the “ally” feel better about themselves. For instance, the 2016 safety pin trend, which allowed people to feel proud of themselves for doing the very least, when they could have instead donated, demonstrated, actually gone and bashed the fash, etc.

[FatalT]

Jesus fucking Christ why can't we just say we like some ignorant-ass offensive jokes instead of trying to convince everyone they're not offensive? try it guys; trust me, it's easy.

Excuse me but you're appropriating AAVE (African-American Vernacular English) using words like "bae" and "woke." And "offensive."



Cultural Appropriation- When someone not having any blood/familial ties to a certain culture attempts to borrow from that culture without understanding the thing’s proper significance or understanding how to properly wear/use/whatever it. While physical things (bindis, dreads) are most commonly thought of, immaterial things can be appropriated too, especially AAVE (African-American Vernacular English). Thus in the context of our group, we ask that you not formulate jokes with AAVE like “woke” or “bae” as the main punchline if you are not African American (the AA of AAVE). That is, saying “thats not very woke of you xdDxdD" even to make fun of liberals is not okay, as it also a form of performative allyship in which you try to distance yourself from the problem and thusly allow yourself to be assuaged of guilt without doing anything concrete. It is also erasure, since even joking about other white people using it means you are attributing “woke” to white people, erasing its history as AAVE.

[benjipwns]

this is perfect

Misogynoir- Misogyny that is specific to the experience of the black woman. Black meaning usually black Africans, African Americans, afro Latinos etc.

Bailey coined misogynoir in 2010 while she was a graduate student at Emory University. She first used it on the Crunk Feminist Collective blog to discuss misogyny toward black women in hip hop music.[3][4]

Misogynoir combines "misogyny" and "noir" to describe anti-black sexism faced by black women. Bailey considered other words (including "sistagyny") before settling on misogynoir.

[Samson Manhug]

I know there’s not any black women posters here anymore, but even so I’m not sure making fun of a word they invented to describe the specific oppression they face is a very cool thing to do.

[FatalT]

I know there’s not any black women posters here anymore, but even so I’m not sure making fun of a word they invented to describe the specific oppression they face is a very cool thing to do.

(Image removed from quote.)

Nkechi Amare Diallo is side-eyeing you so hard right now.

[benjipwns]

I know there’s not any black women posters here anymore, but even so I’m not sure making fun of a word they invented to describe the specific oppression they face is a very cool thing to do.

It's okay tho, they don't read the dumpster fires that are gaming forums.

[CatsCatsCats]

No doubt shit was like uncle at the BBQ level offensive at times dipping into the cringe zone -- how is that not a given? Also pretty funny, and worth hearing his perspective because it's real and exists

[Optimus]

The Texas special was far better than the LA one imo. Also, it's funny watching the elitist "journalist" morons trying to convince us that the specials weren't funny because they got triggered by Chappelle's jokes. SAD.

[FatalT]

I finished the first one last night and it was pretty great. Gonna watch part two tonight.

[etiolate]

I like the LA special more than the Texas one. The Austin special felt uneven. Ray Rice is sort of an old topic and he didn't have an interesting angle on it, so that section bored me.

[Nola]

Jesus fucking Christ why can't we just say we like some ignorant-ass offensive jokes instead of trying to convince everyone they're not offensive? try it guys; trust me, it's easy.

How about the people that get so laughably triggered because a person offers up an analysis that doesn't jive with their emotional reaction watching something?

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Though to be fair that post came on the heels of watching that special a second time with my girlfriend after a night of some moderate drinking downtown. Though I largely still stand by it.

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I mean his use of some words and some light framing issues could probably of been improved but the underlying points are what are important and what a person should be judged on. Would you not agree? Is it not kinda incredibly superficial to try and simply judge a person's work by how well it aligns with the cultural norms and verbiage at a given moment in time while ignoring or downplaying the underlying context, motive, and point being made?

[Nola]

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[Optimus]

Jesus fucking Christ why can't we just say we like some ignorant-ass offensive jokes instead of trying to convince everyone they're not offensive? try it guys; trust me, it's easy.

How about the people that get so laughably triggered because a person offers up an analysis that doesn't jive with their emotional reaction watching something?

I mean his use of some words and some light framing issues could probably of been improved but the underlying points are what are important and what a person should be judged on. Would you not agree?

Because believe it or not people get annoyed by the pretentious and the humorless who are always trying to ruin everyone's party with their stupid fucking agendas. I would have the same reaction if someone bitched because Chappelle called himself a feminist or talked about race (the Trumptards probably did btw). Stop whining about everything assholes, I think I speak for the majority when I say that we've reached peak saturation on agenda-driven bitching. You want to talk about politics talk about actual politics but don't use comedy or videogames as your fucking podium to do it.

[Nola]

Jesus fucking Christ why can't we just say we like some ignorant-ass offensive jokes instead of trying to convince everyone they're not offensive? try it guys; trust me, it's easy.

How about the people that get so laughably triggered because a person offers up an analysis that doesn't jive with their emotional reaction watching something?

I mean his use of some words and some light framing issues could probably of been improved but the underlying points are what are important and what a person should be judged on. Would you not agree?

Because believe it or not people get annoyed by the pretentious and the humorless who are always trying to ruin everyone's party with their stupid fucking agendas. I would have the same reaction if someone bitched because Chappelle called himself a feminist or talked about race (the Trumptards probably did btw). Stop whining about everything assholes, I think I speak for the majority when I say that we've reached peak saturation on agenda-driven bitching. You want to talk about politics talk about actual politics but don't use comedy or videogames as your fucking podium to do it.

Most modern stand-up comedy has always had an underlying narrative that talks about the human condition or some sociological phenomenon. It can be race relations like Chappelle, generational and personal differences on the use of certain words like Louis C.K., or in the case of someone like Jim Norton, who just likes to talk about porn habits and banging prostitutes.

So it is completely reasonable to be analyzing those aspects of a comedy. I don't have any problem with that.

I also don't give a shit if someone just wants to sit back and zone out and hear jokes and not be bothered to reflect on any of that shit. Thats probably the vast majority of people.

But if we are gonna jump into the analysis game, I prefer it to be more then just passing superficial value judgments based on how one cherry picked part of a larger bit stands up to isolated scrutiny. If you jump into the game, don't get all passive aggressive if someone is gonna tell you your jump shot sucks.

[Optimus]

Jesus fucking Christ why can't we just say we like some ignorant-ass offensive jokes instead of trying to convince everyone they're not offensive? try it guys; trust me, it's easy.

How about the people that get so laughably triggered because a person offers up an analysis that doesn't jive with their emotional reaction watching something?

I mean his use of some words and some light framing issues could probably of been improved but the underlying points are what are important and what a person should be judged on. Would you not agree?

Because believe it or not people get annoyed by the pretentious and the humorless who are always trying to ruin everyone's party with their stupid fucking agendas. I would have the same reaction if someone bitched because Chappelle called himself a feminist or talked about race (the Trumptards probably did btw). Stop whining about everything assholes, I think I speak for the majority when I say that we've reached peak saturation on agenda-driven bitching. You want to talk about politics talk about actual politics but don't use comedy or videogames as your fucking podium to do it.

Most modern stand-up comedy has always had an underlying narrative that talks about the human condition or some sociological phenomenon. It can be race relations like Chappelle, generational and personal differences on the use of certain words like Louis C.K., or in the case of someone like Jim Norton, who just likes to talk about porn habits and banging prostitutes.

So it is completely reasonable to be analyzing those aspects of a comedy. I don't have any problem with that.

I also don't give a shit if someone just wants to sit back and zone out and hear jokes and not be bothered to reflect on any of that shit. Thats probably the vast majority of people. But if we are gonna jump into the analysis game, I prefer it to be more then just passing superficial value judgments based on how one cherry picked part of a larger bit stands up to isolated scrutiny.

Except that you're not judging aspects of comedy, you're judging political aspects of a comedic show that 99% of the time uses hyperbole to entertain. Same exact problem with videogames, "but why isn't she using full armor to protect her entire body?", "but why are this character's physical features so unrealistic". Because sex and hyperbole sells and entertains, geniuses. But please, keep it going, as if the public didn't need another reason to hate the identity politics nutjobs from both sides.

And for the record, if you don't like the underlying politics of a show/comedian/developer don't fucking watch it; but don't pretend to "analyze" a show whose main goal is to make you laugh. I don't like Schumer's politics and comedy but I don't go analyzing her shitty special, I just didn't watch it. And even if I did, I'd probably comment on her... let's call it comedy, I wouldn't try to find the hidden political meaning behind her vagina jokes.

[Trent Dole]

I watched some of the first special before heading out. Got to where he was pitching movies to a gay dude and a Texan. It's stand up? Like the queer movie pitch wasn't that great or funny but whatever.

[Optimus]

I watched some of the first special before heading out. Got to where he was pitching movies to a gay dude and a Texan. It's stand up? Like the queer movie pitch wasn't that great or funny but whatever.

Don't want to spoil anything but it's a rather needlessly lengthy and mediocre setup to a later joke. Watch the other special, it's far better imo.

[brawndolicious]

The first one felt a little rough since he was basically reestablishing himself. He's one of those people who has to see themselves as a flawed representation of a great philosophy. Not just as a Muslim who drinks and jerks off, but going into the whole gay/feminism stuff where he sorta passive-aggressively acknowledges that he likes those ideals but he's an intrinsically dirty, old-fashioned person who isn't going to do a perfect job respecting it.

Which I thought was a good use of comedy to make a point. The second one is a lot more straightforward comedy and more enjoyable/less cringey as a result.

[WanderingWind]

I just want to know where all you talking about how the specials were offensive were when Chappelle's Show was on. You definitely didn't watch that shit or you wouldn't be confused and hurt that Dave Chappelle tells offensive jokes. Holy fuck. Do you watch comedy shows, or do you just skim through it?

[Purrp Skirrp]

I watched some of the first special before heading out. Got to where he was pitching movies to a gay dude and a Texan. It's stand up? Like the queer movie pitch wasn't that great or funny but whatever.

Don't want to spoil anything but it's a rather needlessly lengthy and mediocre setup to a later joke. Watch the other special, it's far better imo.

Parts of that setup were lame but the end joke fucking delivered. One of the more memorable bits.

I wound up watching the 2nd special first Thought both were good/great at times with the 2nd feeling a little more consistent.

Killin' Them Softly > Deep in the Heart of Texas = For What It's Worth > The Age of Spin

[FatalT]

I just want to know where all you talking about how the specials were offensive were when Chappelle's Show was on. You definitely didn't watch that shit or you wouldn't be confused and hurt that Dave Chappelle tells offensive jokes. Holy fuck. Do you watch comedy shows, or do you just skim through it?

Chappelle's Show aired from 2003-2006. Y'know, back when everyone used words like "cheeseburger" and "gay" was an adjective used to describe something negatively. The times, they are a-changin.

Gonna watch the second part tonight and laugh my ass off probably.

[FatalT]

Is porn the only avenue where cheeseburger is still an acceptable term

It's porn so anything goes, really. That's one medium where no one has rights and no one questions it because everyone is too uptight to admit to their porn fetishes.