a thought about sex etc

[recursivelyenumerable]

i think i'd be more ok with sex etc if there were more alternatives, like the fact it gets this whole physiological system doesn't seem fair

if there were like physiological system2, system3 ... sysN for any kind of relationship or modality of being you might want to have ... i feel it could take some of the pressure off and make life a lot more tolerable.

so i hope we can get this working soon.

[thisismyusername]

Expand that out a bit. What do you mean by system2, system3, sysN? You mean the "Kinsey scale" or the scatterplot of feelings in regards to relationships? (You: I really like you. Them: Oh, I only see us as friends. But we could probably date and see if something happens?)

[FatalT]

How high are you right now?

[Atramental]

>female friend asks me why I don't try to get laid
>Say that physical pleasure is a temporary distraction on the road towards long-term contentment, and for that reason, casual sex is harmful if not degenerate
>Explain that relationships in general exist to alleviate the anxiety of existence, but often lead us to become comfortable with who we are and lose sight of who we should be. Romantic relationships exist solely for pleasure and mutual self affirmation, and they are for this reason harmful if not degenerate.
>To make sure my argument is air tight, I remind her that 1) sex can lead to reproduction and 2) to have a child is to kill a person several decades in the future. For these additional reasons, sex is potentially harmful, selfish, and degenerate.
>"Omg are you serious, you read too much"
>"Haha yeah"
>TFW you're too smart to have sex

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before you get on my nuts about this post it's a copy pasta 

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[Valkyrie]

A Gaf Virgin(tm) copy pasta

[thisismyusername]

>Green text tho

So 4chan.

[recursivelyenumerable]

Expand that out a bit. What do you mean by system2, system3, sysN? You mean the "Kinsey scale" or the scatterplot of feelings in regards to relationships? (You: I really like you. Them: Oh, I only see us as friends. But we could probably date and see if something happens?)

well i think the very notions of a "scale" or a "plot" along one or two axes both seem to already implicitly assume romance/sex/etc as a fixed telos, which relationships are measured according to how much they do or don't approach.

so that's what we're trying to get away from by introducing new systems. these could all have their own independent scales/plots/etc., if you like.

the problem is that sexuality has a whole system with stuff like genitals and sexual intercourse and reproduction associated with it. it's like a physical projection of a particular range of soul states.  i think it would be helpful if analogous (though not necessarily 1:1 corresponding), distinct and independent systems existed to project alternative soul states, that's all.

[thisismyusername]

I think I get what you're saying. But at the same time: Wouldn't your system be similar to the scatterplot of relationships right now? That's what I'm trying to wrap my head around: What makes your system different? You're still "slotting" (oh god the phrasings for this) people into distinct boxes on a scatterplot. But instead of a scatterplot, you're putting them into a tree hierarchy, I'd guess?

Basically like:

Sexuality->Gender(2 trees: Male/Female)->Prefered Genitals to Sex up (4 trees: Penis/Vagina, M/F)->Transgenders allowed?(2 trees? 6?: Yes/No)

Basically a "root" system?

I mean looking at it like that, you'd still be lumping things in scientifically and boxing folks in. Sexuality in general is fucking weird and all over the place. I'm a case-in-point on that.

[recursivelyenumerable]

yeah that's prob not wrong, but I think it's still better than what we have now. I'm just thinking of this as part of getting to the next stage. then we or others can critique the reality to get to the stage after that etc

[toku]

[recursivelyenumerable]

don't agree.

[toku]

[Raist]

Thi is why you shouldn't do drugs, kids.

[TakingBackSunday]

this is certainly a recursive thread

[I'm a Puppy!]

How can you have all this brain power, yet Bing still sucks?

[thisismyusername]

Honestly, I only think there is 4 legit sexualities.

Gay,
Bi,
Hetero,
A.

Anything else is funky. You start to "3D"-ize the scatterplot (Kinsey sliding scale of how straight-gay you are) with transexuals.

Gender assignment and preferred gender pronoun IMO don't count in this categorization, despite a lot of folks wanting it to.

[Huff]

[chronovore]

I hate that I can just assume what someone has in their pants by looking at them. It shouldn't be like that, IMO. If we had more options and more potential combinations, it would always be a surprise.

Move to Japan! You guys all see the adult videos with mosaics, thinking it's censorship. That mosaic is actually physically present once you get their pants off.

[recursivelyenumerable]

I hate that I can just assume what someone has in their pants by looking at them. It shouldn't be like that, IMO. If we had more options and more potential combinations, it would always be a surprise.

Move to Japan! You guys all see the adult videos with mosaics, thinking it's censorship. That mosaic is actually physically present once you get their pants off.

It's juicy intel like this that makes all the hard work I put into my thought threads worthwhile.

[Joe Molotov]

I'm cutting through all the bullshit...who here wants to fuck?

Seriously, all this simping bullshit has got to stop. I'm going to ask flat out, who wants to fuck? We'd probably do it in a hotel, somewhere classy. Or in the back of my 97 Grand AM GT. However you want it you can get it. But nothing below a 7 I'm single, not desperate.

I have clear skin, so you can tell I am free of diseases. Women, feel free to hit me up.

[recursivelyenumerable]

How can you have all this brain power, yet Bing still sucks?

reported for offensive searchist content.

[curly]

It does seem unfair that there's all these kinds of asexual reproduction that we can't do.

[Kara]

So you want sexuality put back in Plato's appetitive, cur?

[curly]

I just think if you had the option to reproduce via expulsion-from-forehead it would ease a lot of the anxiety of relationships between the genders.

[Valkyrie]

Welcome to Sexbore, the home of the sex deprived.

Don't get married if you like sex.

[chronovore]

Welcome to Sexbore, the home of the sex deprived.

Don't get married if you like sex.

ESPECIALLY don't marry a Japanese person if you like sex. The culture wants to shift from "coupledom" to "parents" the moment you have your first kid. It's a SERIOUS negotiation to subvert their assumption on this point. Big time. 

[Valkyrie]

Welcome to Sexbore, the home of the sex deprived.

Don't get married if you like sex.

ESPECIALLY don't marry a Japanese person if you like sex. The culture wants to shift from "coupledom" to "parents" the moment you have your first kid. It's a SERIOUS negotiation to subvert their assumption on this point. Big time. 

I just don't understand how my husband is okay with such a sexless marriage. It's not like I require it daily, but I do have human needs, and only he can help me with them. It's sad I've been resorting to toys and a crazy mind because he's always "too tired" or already asleep. It's not healthy for us. Plus, sex is great. Why won't he do it with me anymore? Makes me question whether he still finds me attractive or not, even though I know that isn't the case. The one time I tried dressing up in sexy lingerie, he just kinda laughed it away. I guess I am a desperate housewife now.

Glorious Nippon

[Raist]

Welcome to Sexbore, the home of the sex deprived.

Don't get married if you like sex.

ESPECIALLY don't marry a Japanese person if you like sex. The culture wants to shift from "coupledom" to "parents" the moment you have your first kid. It's a SERIOUS negotiation to subvert their assumption on this point. Big time. 

[chronovore]

Welcome to Sexbore, the home of the sex deprived.

Don't get married if you like sex.

ESPECIALLY don't marry a Japanese person if you like sex. The culture wants to shift from "coupledom" to "parents" the moment you have your first kid. It's a SERIOUS negotiation to subvert their assumption on this point. Big time. 

I just don't understand how my husband is okay with such a sexless marriage. It's not like I require it daily, but I do have human needs, and only he can help me with them. It's sad I've been resorting to toys and a crazy mind because he's always "too tired" or already asleep. It's not healthy for us. Plus, sex is great. Why won't he do it with me anymore? Makes me question whether he still finds me attractive or not, even though I know that isn't the case. The one time I tried dressing up in sexy lingerie, he just kinda laughed it away. I guess I am a desperate housewife now.

Glorious Nippon

You can make it. You both have to be committed to communicating first and foremost. Hopefully it won't take you guys as long as it did us.

[Atramental]

Get married, brehs.

But in all seriousness, I have yet to meet someone that I could imagine spending the rest of my life with.

I'm still surprised at how fast my "infatuation" for someone just died after being around them for more than a week. 

[Rufus]

Familiarity breeds contempt.

[I'm a Puppy!]

Well this thread took a turn for the serious.

My 2 cents is I'd slightly change what Rufus said to "Familiarity breeds complacency" not just in sex but in all aspects of a relationship.

[TakingBackSunday]

a wild jaydubya appears

[PlayDat]

How can you have all this brain power, yet Bing still sucks?

I get a $5 Amazon gift card from Bing about once a month.  It's my default search engine now.  On the rare occasion I don't find what I'm looking for, Google's still there as a backup. So now yet another megacorporation is profiting from my browsing data and it didn't cost them much more.

[I'm a Puppy!]

Oh Bing is definitely my default search engine.

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for porn

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[thisismyusername]

Oh Bing is definitely my default search engine.

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for porn

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Now we know why he made this thread. For better porn refinements.

[Valkyrie]

Don't hide what you search for, use incognito mode for vanilla stuff only. Live a little.

[Mupepe]

The wife and I have been together for 11 years, married for going on 8 years this September. Crisis mode is when we only have sex twice a week. It doesn't have to die.

Sharing fantasies with each other is a big thing that we learned to do early. Communicate.

[thisismyusername]

Wait, sex TWICE a week is crisis mode for you?

[Trurl]

What's your secret?  Compatible schedules?  Staying in shape?  Cuckoldry? 

The SO and I feel pretty ok about it when we're doing it twice a week.

Edit: oh, yeah.  Communication.

[Valkyrie]

What's your secret?

No kids, I'm betting. If I'm wrong, Mupepe is confirmed not human.

[Huff]

I have no empathy for breeders 

[Mupepe]

No kids together, staying in shape is eh.  I work out and shit but I'm not in shape by any means.  Our schedules are terrible. She is a nurse with a changing schedule, just finished school.  I'm working 40+ hours at my job and taking 4 classes in school.  we just communicate thoroughly about sexuality I think.  When I think of something in the middle of the day I send it to her.  Sometimes it's random shit like "I was just thinking about rubbing you down with massage oil"  She will do the same (mine are worse though for sure).  I can say at least on my side it's nice to be reminded that you're wanted and in what ways.

[Valkyrie]

Ye, our sex was pretty nuts (huehue) before we decided to breed. It was actually fine after as well but then last year some stuff happened, marriage almost didn't make it, and now we're working our way back. Things are good, except the sex. I probably shouldn't go too much into details about that though.

[Trent Dole]

[CatsCatsCats]

If we don't have sex at least every other day my wife is definitely putting me on notice 

[thisismyusername]

If we don't have sex at least every other day my wife is definitely putting me on notice 

This is blowing my mind a semi-grey-Asexual.

I seriously don't know how couples can want to have multiple times a day. I get desire, I get thinking about it. But having a limit of like 5+ times a week blows my mind. I guess I'm just bogged down by too much bullshit currently to think that's even possible in my life.

[CatsCatsCats]

We don't always have sex every other day, but we get a long SO MUCH BETTER when we do

[toku]

bless up thisismyusername

[Mupepe]

We don't always have sex every other day, but we get a long SO MUCH BETTER when we do

Most definitely. I notice I am way more irritable when we have gone a couple of days without it. This is including at least a few times a week that I jerk off when she is unavailable.

[CatsCatsCats]

 

[thisismyusername]

We don't always have sex every other day, but we get a long SO MUCH BETTER when we do

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying you or Mup's is/are. It's just "we have sex five times a week" is to me. There's various life-factors for me to where I couldn't even think of sexing up a partner three times a week. "Every other day" is a pipe-dream to me. (And that's even if you get around my weird-ass sexuality and lust/desire factors)

I'm not knocking either of you two. If that works for you, great. I just... can't see it.

[demi]

Ye, our sex was pretty nuts (huehue) before we decided to breed. It was actually fine after as well but then last year some stuff happened, marriage almost didn't make it, and now we're working our way back. Things are good, except the sex. I probably shouldn't go too much into details about that though.

yes u should. thanks

[recursivelyenumerable]

bleh

[toku]

hope you're okay buddy

[CrankyJay]

[TVC15]

I've been conceptualizing a set of cloaca-inspired sex apparatuses  off-and-on for the past several years, originally (loosely) inspired by my reading of what I considered to be an aesthetically idealistic depiction of sex in my favorite book, The Ticket That Exploded (although what I've ended up with is significantly different due to pragmatic design issues).

Man has improved on so many of god's poor designs, sex included. I believe we can go even further.

[recursivelyenumerable]

yes I would strongly encourage continuing work on this project!!!

[TVC15]

yes I would strongly encourage continuing work on this project!!!

I will write up a post over the next few days going into details. I'll send you a PM when it's done just in case you aren't sleazing around the forum as much in the Age of the Fall of Amir0x.