Apple Event Thread (9/12/17)

[Tasty]

https://www.theverge.com/2017/9/12/16268126/apple-event-live-stream-time-new-iphone-x-8-schedule

Safari on macOS or Edge on Windows 10 required for the livestream (yes this is still true, in the Year of Our Lord 2017.)

I'm actually pretty interested in seeing what they do with the new Nine-Hundred and Ninety U.S. Dollars iPhone X. The camera improvements are probably nuts.



I can't tell if this I like the wider cutout at the top like this concept, or the small dot like on the Essential Phone. They're both pretty cool and exciting in any case.

Non-square screens and screens with cutouts.

"Fingerprint sensor? What's that?"

Going to need to see a lot of improvements in Siri for the HomePod to make more sense than an Amazon Echo or Google Home.

Apple TV "but for real this time guys," Mk. 5.

[Brehvolution]

I don't get the wailing at the price. Everyone happily paid between $749-$899 for the iPhone in their pocket right now.

Looking forward to  Apple TV 4K

[Tasty]

I don't get the wailing at the price. Everyone happily paid between $749-$899 for the current iPhone in their pocket right now.

Yeah, or they got it subsidized by carriers anyways.

If the improvements justify the price, it's fine IMO. I'm most interested in seeing what they can do with camera tech in a brand new $1000 phone.

[Brehvolution]

Having used a 6S+ for almost 2 years now, I can't go back to a smaller phone. If the X is the small size then it isn't for me.

[Tasty]

Size is supposed to be slightly larger than the normal iPhone, but with the screen size of a Plus. I think.

[Brehvolution]

 

[TVC15]

I feel kind of weird for saying this, but I think no Touch ID means I'm not on board. Facial recognition shit just isn't as flexible.

[demi]

Cant play my old games on it

[TVC15]

Add a poll asking whether I'll buy one

[Tasty]

Oh shit they got Jobs’ ghost back to shill this shit.

[Cerveza mas fina]

if its bigger then then the 6s/7 Im out

[Brehvolution]

Face ID just made it super easy for cops to unlock your phone.

[fistfulofmetal]

the iphone X screen isn't even 1440p? my 2 year old phone has a higher pixel density that it.

[Tasty]

the iphone X screen isn't even 1440p? my 2 year old phone has a higher pixel density that it.

Super Retina breh, highest PPI of any iPhone

Face ID just made it super easy for cops to unlock your phone.

Doesn't work with closed eyes or pictures.

[Tasty]

Why did they pull an MS and skip 9 though?

[Brehvolution]

$999 for a 64gb phone is certainly "couragious". 

[TVC15]

That was pretty underwhelming. I see no reason to upgrade from my 7+ right now.

[Tasty]

[TVC15]

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Nobody said anything when they skipped 2.

[Tasty]

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Nobody said anything when they skipped 2.

I mean the Ten is technically iPhone 11 but whatever, it's more the fact they have two new products: one called 8 and one called "Ten."

[TVC15]

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Nobody said anything when they skipped 2.

I mean the Ten is technically iPhone 11 but whatever, it's more the fact they have two new products: one called 8 and one called "Ten."

They really should have just called it iPhone "Ecks", but they do indeed call it ten.

[TakingBackSunday]

I think I might hold off on the X and just to Apple's iPhone Upgrade Program until next year and jump onto the X-2/S/whatever

[nachobro]

why no fingerprint sensor? that's my favorite thing from the iphone i have now

[Positive Touch]

I'd just like to point out that my year old s7 edge has both a glass back and facial recognition



(and both suck btw)

[Positive Touch]

Face ID just made it super easy for cops to unlock your phone.

Doesn't work with closed eyes or pictures.

doesn't matter when they can just coerce you to look into your own phone :/ is the face id mandatory or not?

[TakingBackSunday]

Face ID just made it super easy for cops to unlock your phone.

Doesn't work with closed eyes or pictures.

doesn't matter when they can just coerce you to look into your own phone :/ is the face id mandatory or not?

It's mandatory for Apple Pay but I doubt it is for phone unlock.

But maybe I'm wrong – that's how Touch ID was anyway.

[WaveRacer 64]

The models they use look straight out of Benetton.

[Tasty]

I'd just like to point out that my year old s7 edge has both a glass back and facial recognition



(and both suck btw)

I hate getting into pissing matches about who-did-what-first because it never really matters, but if we're focusing on the Android side of things, Android 4.0 in 2011 had Face Unlock, and although a couple phones had it earlier I think the first major phone with Qi wireless charging and a glass back was the Nexus 4 in 2012.

That said, all that was a long time ago and I'm sure the tech has progressed (the infrared stuff in the X is far above simple camera-based recognition), but figured it should be said.

[Tasty]

I think I might hold off on the X and just to Apple's iPhone Upgrade Program until next year and jump onto the X-2/S/whatever

I mean, if you don't care about the screen, the 8 Plus is the exact same specs at a slightly cheaper price.

[TakingBackSunday]

I think I might hold off on the X and just to Apple's iPhone Upgrade Program until next year and jump onto the X-2/S/whatever

I mean, if you don't care about the screen, the 8 Plus is the exact same specs at a slightly cheaper price.

The thing is, I DO care about the screen. 

It's the screen I've wanted for the last like 5 years.  I was really tempted to get an S8 but I don't like Samsung's shell on top of Android and I want a phone that behaves with my Apple Watch.

[chronovore]

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Nobody said anything when they skipped 2.

I mean the Ten is technically iPhone 11 but whatever, it's more the fact they have two new products: one called 8 and one called "Ten."

They really should have just called it iPhone "Ecks", but they do indeed call it ten.

It's funny, try calling OSX "Oh Ess Ecks" at a Mac Fanboi gathering. You'll get a chorus of "It's Oh Ess TEN!" in a squeaky high register, with some voices shrilly cracking.

if its bigger then then the 6s/7 Im out

Yeah, oddly when I grab my old iPhone 5S, I prefer its more manageable size to my 6.

[Human Snorenado]

Still see no reason to burden myself with the kind of negativity that iOS brings into one's life, other than the fact that Android STILL doesn't have the Hater dating app. Will wait for the Pixel XL 2 announcement next month and then in all likelihood just score a cheap OG Pixel XL.

[Tasty]

I was really tempted to get an S8 but I don't like Samsung's shell on top of Android and I want a phone that behaves with my Apple Watch.

Can't help ya with the Apple Watch, but the Pixel XL 2 might interest you.



If you're jumping between mobile OS's a lot, you should probably go with devices and services that work with both (*cough Android Wear/Fit/everything Google*)

[nudemacusers]

Really glad to see Apple push things forward with wireless charging and face recognition

[nachobro]

Yeah, oddly when I grab my old iPhone 5S, I prefer its more manageable size to my 6.

iPhone SE, best phone

[chronovore]

Yeah, oddly when I grab my old iPhone 5S, I prefer its more manageable size to my 6.

iPhone SE, best phone

I'm seriously more likely to wait for a smaller phone. I don't need a mini-tablet.

Does the SE get regular, minimal spec changes to stay current, or is it a dead-end vein despite its lack of number?

[nachobro]

Not sure on that, so far this is the only one they've put out (17 months ago) but I hope it stays updated. I only just switched back to ios from android recently but I was actually glad to go back to a smaller phone from the 5.7" one I was using before.

[chronovore]

Not sure on that, so far this is the only one they've put out (17 months ago) but I hope it stays updated. I only just switched back to ios from android recently but I was actually glad to go back to a smaller phone from the 5.7" one I was using before.

Its resale value in Japan is in-fucking-sane. Even the 16GB version is over 200 bucks, and the Actually Feasible Amount of Memory models are in the 500-600 bucks range.

[Trent Dole]

https://twitter.com/calestous/status/907776932011536385

[brawndolicious]

I think I might hold off on the X and just to Apple's iPhone Upgrade Program until next year and jump onto the X-2/S/whatever

I mean, if you don't care about the screen, the 8 Plus is the exact same specs at a slightly cheaper price.

The thing is, I DO care about the screen. 

It's the screen I've wanted for the last like 5 years.  I was really tempted to get an S8 but I don't like Samsung's shell on top of Android and I want a phone that behaves with my Apple Watch.

The X looks rushed really. My bet is in a year or two, the selfie camera and the fingerprint sensor will find their way under the screen (apparently that tech exists but isn't at mass production stage yet).

I'd recommend the iPhone upgrade program or just get a Pixel XL2. Have you ever used an Android phone daily?

[nudemacusers]

Yeah x looks like an old school rev a Apple release. Wait for round 2 imo.

[Cerveza mas fina]

Yeah, oddly when I grab my old iPhone 5S, I prefer its more manageable size to my 6.

iPhone SE, best phone

I'm seriously more likely to wait for a smaller phone. I don't need a mini-tablet.

Does the SE get regular, minimal spec changes to stay current, or is it a dead-end vein despite its lack of number?

I hope so, I think there is a big segment of people that dont want anything bigger.

[Tasty]

The amount of hidden gestures needed to move around the OS (swipe "halfway" up for multitasking… what??) feels too “mystery meat” for me.

Like I get they don't want to seem like they're copying Android and doing a software home button, but... yeah I dunno. I'm sure people will get used to it but these things having no/very little on-screen UI could be a nightmare for normies.

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

Sticking with my 7+ for the time being.  I look forward to the X2 when that inevitably comes out next year.

[chronovore]

The amount of hidden gestures needed to move around the OS (swipe "halfway" up for multitasking… what??) feels too “mystery meat” for me.

Like I get they don't want to seem like they're copying Android and doing a software home button, but... yeah I dunno. I'm sure people will get used to it but these things having no/very little on-screen UI could be a nightmare for normies.

Jesus fucking Christ, no kidding.

This reminds me of all the hidden gestures in Win8, and I hated them then, too.

[nudemacusers]

Yeah the olds are going to be confused. The home button is such a perfect conceit, why bamboozle it.

[Cerveza mas fina]

The home swipe is really shit, hats were you normally get the mini menu... and that is already a pain to open.

[Tasty]

Part of me is starting to really fear that Google is gonna mess up (stock) Android's perfect "Back/Home/Multitasking" system menu with gestures and shit now that Apple's "paving the way." 

[TakingBackSunday]

I think I might hold off on the X and just to Apple's iPhone Upgrade Program until next year and jump onto the X-2/S/whatever

I mean, if you don't care about the screen, the 8 Plus is the exact same specs at a slightly cheaper price.

The thing is, I DO care about the screen. 

It's the screen I've wanted for the last like 5 years.  I was really tempted to get an S8 but I don't like Samsung's shell on top of Android and I want a phone that behaves with my Apple Watch.

The X looks rushed really. My bet is in a year or two, the selfie camera and the fingerprint sensor will find their way under the screen (apparently that tech exists but isn't at mass production stage yet).

I'd recommend the iPhone upgrade program or just get a Pixel XL2. Have you ever used an Android phone daily?

A while back, yeah – I was carrying around a Nexus 5 along with my iPhone for work and really enjoyed it, but again, I have other things that rely on my iPhone.

I'm still not really sure what to do.

[Brehvolution]

iOS 11 is available through the beta program. It's not a beta.

[Tasty]

Chrono might be tickled by this:

iOS 10 already had the rather flimsy iCloud Drive for getting at your files, but the Files app in iOS 11 is much better—it lets you browse through files stored in iCloud, on the local device, and even in third-party services like Dropbox, all through one simple interface. It almost feels like a real computer!

[G The Resurrected]

I've been using iOS 11 since June and it's been awesome especially on my iPad Air 2. Had a few battery issues with it on my 7 plus though, but that has all but worked out. Official 11 is amazing for lots of little reasons, but the biggest for me has been files. That program is freaking magic like.

I haven't decided on if I'm getting a 8 or X, but i'm leaning with sticking with the 7 plus. The 8 plus does have quick charge, but they aren't including anything for it. Nor are they giving the 8 plus the dual image stabilization of the X. That series 3 watch on the other hand is mine! Somedays I just want to be as light as possible and if I can still use my AirPods for calls on that it's as good as bought.

Also job well done with getting 6 of the 7 major film distributors to agree to prices on 4k content and giving free upgrades to those that have already purchased into the iTunes library. That is a huge thing for 4k content that should be news in itself but people don't give a shit about 4k or UHDs for that matter.

[nudemacusers]

Didn't catch the 4K freebie news; makes it an instabuy for me. I have probably 100+ movies on iTunes.

[Tasty]

Didn't catch the 4K freebie news; makes it an instabuy for me. I have probably 100+ movies on iTunes.

I don't even have, nor plan to buy, a 4K TV, but I really want Google to do this. I have 100+ movies in Google Play.

[nudemacusers]

I think everyone will have to respond in kind, or at least I’d hope they do.

[Tasty]

Google also needs to copy all the extra goodies iTunes gets.

[Brehvolution]

I wish WatchOS 4 would gtf here ffs.

[thisismyusername]

Doesn't work with closed eyes or pictures.

I await the day when someone breaks FaceID. It'll happen, and then I'll come back to this post and be all "" about it.

[G The Resurrected]

Well two things I wasn't expecting this week. Apple TV 4k sucks balls apparently with HDR content and no auto switching for HDR10 to Dolby Vision. iPhone 8+ apparently is a good upgrade from a 7+ just for the camera/video. I'm ain't gonna lie the pictures and video coming out of the early reviews are looking so much better than the 7+ and Note 8. Apparently 600mhz varieties are coming early 2018 for those on T-mobile, free swaps if you are in one of those markets.

[Tasty]

Apple’s Latest Products Get Rare Mixed-Bag Reviews

Despite the strength of its brand, Apple Inc. occasionally releases a product to mediocre reviews – remember the original Apple TV or Apple Watch? But reviewers have rarely been as grumpy as this month, when Apple unveiled its collection of new gadgets for the holidays.

Each product was docked by reviewers for specific functional flaws, ranging from the iPhone 8’s middling design to Apple Watch Series 3 issues with wireless connectivity, and quality problems with the Apple TV 4K's video output.

Tough crowd.