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Nabbis

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Re: TheBore Safe Haven from GAF Alt-Right Mods - *THE STATEMENT*
« Reply #6840 on: October 22, 2017, 04:30:28 PM »
anyone know what happeend to BishopTL? did he know? he bailed out long ago. Same with EatChildren.

Well, i mean, EatChildren is kinda self-explanatory given the name.

Mr Gilhaney

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Re: TheBore Safe Haven from GAF Alt-Right Mods - *THE STATEMENT*
« Reply #6841 on: October 22, 2017, 04:32:24 PM »
is slaent that costanza forum? that's still a thing? lol
Nah.  Blackace and others from NBA GAF set it up after he left.  It then got another infusion of users after Evilore banned FootieGAF.

Eeeeeeh pretty sure it's Reilo who set it up.

agrajag

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Re: TheBore Safe Haven from GAF Alt-Right Mods - *THE STATEMENT*
« Reply #6842 on: October 22, 2017, 04:32:32 PM »
anyone know what happeend to BishopTL? did he know? he bailed out long ago. Same with EatChildren.

Well, i mean, EatChildren is kinda self-explanatory given the name.

probably rotting in the same jail cell as amir0x as we speak

Tokyosandblaster

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Re: TheBore Safe Haven from GAF Alt-Right Mods - *THE STATEMENT*
« Reply #6843 on: October 22, 2017, 04:32:36 PM »
I would like to state for the record, for anyone viewing, at no time have i ever been successfully convicted of being a nazi. please direct further questions to my lawyer, who despite his jewish heritage, is quite well-read on the subject of libel and slander.

You have shit taste in fashion brah.

Jenkem

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Re: TheBore Safe Haven from GAF Alt-Right Mods - *THE STATEMENT*
« Reply #6844 on: October 22, 2017, 04:32:38 PM »
LOL. LionPride probably told the BCT regulars we're cool.

NeoF-A G thinks were Social Studies Warriors and Slaent and NeoGAF (RIP) think were Nazis/Gators.  Can't please anyone!

i guess that makes us moderate darlings  :uguu

Re: TheBore Safe Haven from GAF Alt-Right Mods - *THE STATEMENT*
« Reply #6845 on: October 22, 2017, 04:32:43 PM »
BCT morons think we're alt right? Good! Um. YEAH! We are self identified Nazis. I for example am a black Nazi. Andrex is a gay Nazi, and Mandark is a Jewish Nazi. During the election some of us called Hillary "Shillary". And we cried the night of the election (from joy of course). As you can see here we also limit and stifle discussion. We are all Nazis. Sieg Zeon.

I am literally Char Aznable and will drop colonies on your ass.
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Rman

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Re: TheBore Safe Haven from GAF Alt-Right Mods - *THE STATEMENT*
« Reply #6846 on: October 22, 2017, 04:33:37 PM »
is slaent that costanza forum? that's still a thing? lol
Nah.  Blackace and others from NBA GAF set it up after he left.  It then got another infusion of users after Evilore banned FootieGAF.

Eeeeeeh pretty sure it's Reilo who set it up.

You're probably right. Details are hazy.  All I remember that its origins were due to Duckroll clamping down on NBA GAF.

Dennis

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Re: TheBore Safe Haven from GAF Alt-Right Mods - *THE STATEMENT*
« Reply #6847 on: October 22, 2017, 04:33:42 PM »
I've been told Ghaleon did leave, but Kagari is going down with the ship.

I see what you did there.

joe_zazen

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Re: TheBore Safe Haven from GAF Alt-Right Mods - *THE STATEMENT*
« Reply #6848 on: October 22, 2017, 04:33:47 PM »
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« Last Edit: November 01, 2017, 09:36:16 AM by joe_zazen »

The Silver

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Re: TheBore Safe Haven from GAF Alt-Right Mods - *THE STATEMENT*
« Reply #6849 on: October 22, 2017, 04:33:52 PM »
Talk about reaping what you sow, the irony of how gaf was taken down is incredible. The site really was getting insane with how users could dogpile and insult others like crazy until they got the "victim" banned and go on witch hunts.(even if i didn't feel much sympathy for many of the targets it was just getting to be too fucking much)

I'm fucking liberal as all holy hell but i rarely ever posted in social/political threads, all it took was one thing taken out of context or misconstrued and its over, wasn't worth all the eggshells I felt like I was under, just stay in the OT threads.

Like I felt like I couldn't even post my opinion about that guy who hugged that nazi, even if it didn't work, I just thought it was a nice heartfelt moment for that guy. I couldn't be bothered to take the chance of being accused of being a nazi moderate(and I'm fucking black)

KarpalaJoe

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Re: TheBore Safe Haven from GAF Alt-Right Mods - *THE STATEMENT*
« Reply #6850 on: October 22, 2017, 04:33:52 PM »
anyone know what happeend to BishopTL? did he know? he bailed out long ago. Same with EatChildren.

Well, i mean, EatChildren is kinda self-explanatory given the name.

Irony is, he probably was the one and only reliable and moderate mod in Neogaf history of mods.

TVC15

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Re: TheBore Safe Haven from GAF Alt-Right Mods - *THE STATEMENT*
« Reply #6851 on: October 22, 2017, 04:34:09 PM »
I don't see anyone stanning for Pyromaniacs or serial killers.

paging white man

Only pyromaniac I stan for is Berkowitz. I’d also argue the serial killer point, but I believe I made a post the other day about wanting Ed Kemper to fuck me, so touché.
serge

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Re: TheBore Safe Haven from GAF Alt-Right Mods - *THE STATEMENT*
« Reply #6852 on: October 22, 2017, 04:34:25 PM »
BCT morons think we're alt right? Good! Um. YEAH! We are self identified Nazis. I for example am a black Nazi. Andrex is a gay Nazi, and Mandark is a Jewish Nazi. During the election some of us called Hillary "Shillary". And we cried the night of the election (from joy of course). As you can see here we also limit and stifle discussion. We are all Nazis. Sieg Zeon.

Girl go get your children  :gurl

Mr Gilhaney

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Re: TheBore Safe Haven from GAF Alt-Right Mods - *THE STATEMENT*
« Reply #6853 on: October 22, 2017, 04:34:48 PM »
You're probably right. Details are hazy.  All I remember that its origins were due to Duckroll clamping down on NBA GAF.

That is true.

While the site still needs a lot of improvements, it is kind of impressive how much it has improved from what it was. It's built from the ground up and hopefully they can keep making it better, there's some decent guys on there. But those round avatars and some of the design decisions on there are just...  :doge

nudemacusers

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Re: TheBore Safe Haven from GAF Alt-Right Mods - *THE STATEMENT*
« Reply #6854 on: October 22, 2017, 04:34:55 PM »
I would like to state for the record, for anyone viewing, at no time have i ever been successfully convicted of being a nazi. please direct further questions to my lawyer, who despite his jewish heritage, is quite well-read on the subject of libel and slander.

You have shit taste in fashion brah.
:drudge MODS HELP!!!!!!!
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Nola

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Re: TheBore Safe Haven from GAF Alt-Right Mods - *THE STATEMENT*
« Reply #6855 on: October 22, 2017, 04:35:09 PM »
is slaent that costanza forum? that's still a thing? lol

Nah, it got set up after the great NBA-Gaf purge of some year I can't remember.

Honestly the whole fiasco was basically because they tried to have fun in non-community threads and some mods had it out for them.

I actually had a worthless non-substantiated theory that the optics of that purge fueled some of the over-sensitivity and protectionism later on.


Opiate

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Re: TheBore Safe Haven from GAF Alt-Right Mods - *THE STATEMENT*
« Reply #6856 on: October 22, 2017, 04:36:04 PM »
Returning to the discussion about Besada's protection of minority groups: I think this is a good foil to discuss the broader challenge of moderating a large, responsible forum like GAF.

In the broadest abstract, I actually agree with Besada that minorities need to be protected. The tyranny of the majority is a real thing, and at the very least we need to offer some protection to disadvantaged or small groups so that they aren't simply overwhelmed. The idea, out of context, is sound, in my opinion.

But there are a couple specifics I feel most of the other moderators (not just Besada here) were missing, or at least which I think were important:

1) The most important kind of minority is not a racial minority or a religious minority, but an intellectual one. Often these go hand in hand (i.e. different religions have different intellectual bases), but they are not identical, and if I had to pick one type of diversity to defend first and foremost (I'd like to defend them all, of course) it would be intellectual diversity. It often seems that many people focus exclusively on more superficial types of diversity, and that seemed to be the case with several other moderators, to me.

2) What defines a minority is significantly context dependent. For instance, I am a white guy living in America, so at the moment I definitely do not qualify as a minority. But if I were to move to China -- as my sister has -- then I would rather quickly face at least some of the issues a minority faces, where my sister is often ignored or overlooked because she is not naturally Chinese. Again, just an example. Similarly, on GAF, conservatives were a minority, and I felt deserving of some protection simply because their voices were being drowned out. It didn't even have to be mean spirited drowning out -- if one person advocated a conservative position, he would often get 8 retorts back from liberals, simply because there were so many more liberals than conservatives. Even if none of those people was inherently trying to "pick" on the conservative, the end result must have been exhausting if you happened to hold political views that were not majority GAF opinion.

So I definitely agree that protecting minority rights is important, just like Besada felt. However, I think "protecting minority rights" means different things at different times. If I were moderating FoxsNews.Com forums, I would probably have found it necessary to reach and give special protections to liberals. If I were moderating MensHealth.com, I would probably feel obliged to make sure women who happened to post on that forum felt comfortable. Being a minority is context dependent, and most importantly can include being an intellectual minority. This, in essence, was a consistent sticking point between me and much of the other moderation staff.
« Last Edit: October 22, 2017, 04:42:46 PM by Opiate »

agrajag

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Re: TheBore Safe Haven from GAF Alt-Right Mods - *THE STATEMENT*
« Reply #6857 on: October 22, 2017, 04:36:25 PM »
Talk about reaping what you sow, the irony of how gaf was taken down is incredible. The site really was getting insane with how users could dogpile and insult others like crazy until they got the "victim" banned and go on witch hunts.(even if i didn't feel much sympathy for many of the targets it was just getting to be too fucking much)

I'm fucking liberal as all holy hell but i rarely ever posted in social/political threads, all it took was one thing taken out of context or misconstrued and its over, wasn't worth all the eggshells I felt like I was under, just stay in the OT threads.

Like I felt like I couldn't even post my opinion about that guy who hugged that nazi, even if it didn't work, I just thought it was a nice heartfelt moment for that guy. I couldn't be bothered to take the chance of being accused of being a nazi moderate(and I'm fucking black)

hugging a nazi, what a milkshake duck

you're supposed to punch nazis, punch, not hug

Dennis

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Re: TheBore Safe Haven from GAF Alt-Right Mods - *THE STATEMENT*
« Reply #6858 on: October 22, 2017, 04:36:42 PM »
I would like to state for the record, for anyone viewing, at no time have i ever been successfully convicted of being a nazi. please direct further questions to my lawyer, who despite his jewish heritage, is quite well-read on the subject of libel and slander.

You have shit taste in fashion brah.
:drudge MODS HELP!!!!!!!

Demi don't care

jacob.armitage

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Re: TheBore Safe Haven from GAF Alt-Right Mods - *THE STATEMENT*
« Reply #6859 on: October 22, 2017, 04:37:15 PM »
Talk about reaping what you sow, the irony of how gaf was taken down is incredible. The site really was getting insane with how users could dogpile and insult others like crazy until they got the "victim" banned and go on witch hunts.(even if i didn't feel much sympathy for many of the targets it was just getting to be too fucking much)

I'm fucking liberal as all holy hell but i rarely ever posted in social/political threads, all it took was one thing taken out of context or misconstrued and its over, wasn't worth all the eggshells I felt like I was under, just stay in the OT threads.

Like I felt like I couldn't even post my opinion about that guy who hugged that nazi, even if it didn't work, I just thought it was a nice heartfelt moment for that guy. I couldn't be bothered to take the chance of being accused of being a nazi moderate(and I'm fucking black)

Oh for sure, it was maddeningly authoritative. This was always a bit of an issue, but it always felt very situational but once Donald Trump started gaining political momentum in the primaries, GAF became a police state. All i ever wanted was a gaming community with a bit of politics that leaned left with no excessive sexism, racism or transphobia but still welcomes opposing opinions and healthy discourse. Feel like that shouldn't be hard, haha.

Rman

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Re: TheBore Safe Haven from GAF Alt-Right Mods - *THE STATEMENT*
« Reply #6860 on: October 22, 2017, 04:37:37 PM »
is slaent that costanza forum? that's still a thing? lol

Nah, it got set up after the great NBA-Gaf purge of some year I can't remember.

Honestly the whole fiasco was basically because they tried to have fun in non-community threads and some mods had it out for them.

I actually had a worthless non-substantiated theory that the optics of that purge fueled some of the over-sensitivity and protectionism later on.



I remember exactly since I was a long time NBA GAF lurker.  Some new guy started talking crap and he started getting clowned.  This was common in sports threads.  All good fun and ribbing.  He then complained to Duckroll. Duckroll gave a warning and some NBA Gaffers started talking smack back and got banned. 

There was some drama with Blackace since he didn't agree with the bannings. He got demodded and bounced. NBA GAF was on probation and locked for a bit.  Slaent was started quickly after. 

Swollen Bowels

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Re: TheBore Safe Haven from GAF Alt-Right Mods - *THE STATEMENT*
« Reply #6861 on: October 22, 2017, 04:38:05 PM »
anyone know what happeend to BishopTL? did he know? he bailed out long ago. Same with EatChildren.

Bishop was excommunicated for purging the forum of racist alt-right shitheads and their mealy mouthed centrist enablers.

Cryo

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Re: TheBore Safe Haven from GAF Alt-Right Mods - *THE STATEMENT*
« Reply #6862 on: October 22, 2017, 04:39:33 PM »
anyone know what happeend to BishopTL? did he know? he bailed out long ago. Same with EatChildren.
EatChildren was, by choice, unceremoniously shipped off to the Andromeda galaxy along with the rest of the Mass Effect franchise.

Himu

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Re: TheBore Safe Haven from GAF Alt-Right Mods - *THE STATEMENT*
« Reply #6863 on: October 22, 2017, 04:39:53 PM »
BCT morons think we're alt right? Good! Um. YEAH! We are self identified Nazis. I for example am a black Nazi. Andrex is a gay Nazi, and Mandark is a Jewish Nazi. During the election some of us called Hillary "Shillary". And we cried the night of the election (from joy of course). As you can see here we also limit and stifle discussion. We are all Nazis. Sieg Zeon.

Girl go get your children  :gurl

They are calling their momma alt right so nah
IYKYK

TVC15

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Re: TheBore Safe Haven from GAF Alt-Right Mods - *THE STATEMENT*
« Reply #6864 on: October 22, 2017, 04:40:39 PM »
anyone know what happeend to BishopTL? did he know? he bailed out long ago. Same with EatChildren.
Apparently, he was permabanning posters he didn't care for incognito. EL found out and he was demodded. Technically he was an admin, so higher than a mod.

EatChildren just got tired with mod duties I think.

I’m still curious about the bish situation if anyone wants to clear it up. He ALWAYS did mass bans and didn’t record them, from way back when I started modding. It was obvious if you even glanced at the ban log or poked around in the user database. I figured he was just allowed to do that. So did he do something else or more extreme to get de-adminned?
serge

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Re: TheBore Safe Haven from GAF Alt-Right Mods - *THE STATEMENT*
« Reply #6865 on: October 22, 2017, 04:40:45 PM »
Returning to the discussion about Besada's protection of minority groups: I think this is a good foil to discuss the broader challenge of moderating a large, responsible forum like GAF.

In the broadest abstract, I actually agree with Besada that minorities need to be protected. The tyranny of the majority is a real thing, and at the very least we need to offer some protection to disadvantaged or small groups so that they aren't simply overwhelmed. The idea, out of context, is sound, in my opinion.

But there are a couple specifics I feel most of the other moderators (not just Besada here) were missing, or at least which I think were important:

1) The most important kind of minority is not a racial minority or a religious minority, but an intellectual one. Often these go hand in hand (i.e. different religions have different intellectual bases), but they are not identical, and if I had to pick one type of diversity to defend first and foremost (I'd like to defend them all, of course) it would be intellectual diversity. It often seems that many people focus exclusively on more superficial types of diversity, and that seemed to be the case with several other moderators, to me.

2) What defines a minority is significantly context dependent. For instance, I am a white guy living in America, so at the moment I definitely do not qualify as a minority. But if I were to move to China -- as my sister has -- then I would rather quickly find many of the issues with being a minority, where my sister is often ignored or overlooked because she is not naturally Chinese. Again, just an example. Similarly, on GAF, conservatives were a minority, and I felt deserving of some protection simply because their voices were being drowned out. It didn't even have to be mean spirited drowning out -- if one person advocated a conservative position, he would often get 8 retorts back from liberals, simply because there were so many more liberals than conservatives. Even if none of those people was inherently trying to "pick" on the conservative, the end result must have been exhausting if you happened to hold political views that were not majority GAF opinion.

So I definitely agree that protecting minority rights is important, just like Besada felt. However, I think "protecting minority rights" means different things at different times. If I were moderating FoxsNews.Com forums, I would probably have found it necessary to reach and give special protections to liberals. If I were moderating MensHealth.com, I would probably feel obliged to make sure women who happened to post on that forum felt comfortable. Being a minority is context dependent, and most importantly can include being an intellectual minority. This, in essence, was a consistent sticking point between me and much of the other moderation staff.


Rman

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Re: TheBore Safe Haven from GAF Alt-Right Mods - *THE STATEMENT*
« Reply #6866 on: October 22, 2017, 04:42:23 PM »
anyone know what happeend to BishopTL? did he know? he bailed out long ago. Same with EatChildren.
Apparently, he was permabanning posters he didn't care for incognito. EL found out and he was demodded. Technically he was an admin, so higher than a mod.

EatChildren just got tired with mod duties I think.

I’m still curious about the bish situation, if anyone wants to clear it up. He ALWAYS did mass bans and didn’t record them, from way back when I started modding. It was obvious if you even glanced at the ban log or poked around in the user database. I figured he was just allowed to do that. So did he do something else or more extreme to get de-adminned?

EL said that all banning needed to be cleared with him, though? He also said Bish was doing this for years, so maybe he was not aware until recently?

KarpalaJoe

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Re: TheBore Safe Haven from GAF Alt-Right Mods - *THE STATEMENT*
« Reply #6867 on: October 22, 2017, 04:42:28 PM »
Returning to the discussion about Besada's protection of minority groups: I think this is a good foil to discuss the broader challenge of moderating a large, responsible forum like GAF.

In the broadest abstract, I actually agree with Besada that minorities need to be protected. The tyranny of the majority is a real thing, and at the very least we need to offer some protection to disadvantaged or small groups so that they aren't simply overwhelmed. The idea, out of context, is sound, in my opinion.

But there are a couple specifics I feel most of the other moderators (not just Besada here) were missing, or at least which I think were important:

1) The most important kind of minority is not a racial minority or a religious minority, but an intellectual one. Often these go hand in hand (i.e. different religions have different intellectual bases), but they are not identical, and if I had to pick one type of diversity to defend first and foremost (I'd like to defend them all, of course) it would be intellectual diversity. It often seems that many people focus exclusively on more superficial types of diversity, and that seemed to be the case with several other moderators, to me.

2) What defines a minority is significantly context dependent. For instance, I am a white guy living in America, so at the moment I definitely do not qualify as a minority. But if I were to move to China -- as my sister has -- then I would rather quickly find myself as a minority, and the same tyranny-of-the-majority rules apply, where my sister is often ignored or overlooked because she is not naturally Chinese. As an example. Similarly, on GAF, conservatives were a minority, and I felt deserving of some protection simply because their voices were being drowned out. It didn't even have to be mean spirited drowning out -- if one person advocated a conservative position, he would often get 8 retorts back from liberals, simply because there were so many more liberals than conservatives. Even if none of those people was inherently trying to "pick" on the conservative, the end result must have been exhausting if you happened to hold political views that were not majority GAF opinion.

So I ultimately agree that protecting minority rights is important, just like Besada felt. I just think that means different things at different times. If I were moderating FoxsNews.Com forums, I would probably have found it necessary to reach and give special protections to liberals. If I were moderating MensHealth.com, I would probably feel obliged to make sure women who happened to post on that forum feel comfortable. Being a minority is context dependent, and most importantly can include being an intellectual minority. This, in essence, was a consistent sticking point between me and much of the other moderation staff.


joe_zazen

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Re: TheBore Safe Haven from GAF Alt-Right Mods - *THE STATEMENT*
« Reply #6868 on: October 22, 2017, 04:42:40 PM »
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« Last Edit: November 01, 2017, 09:36:32 AM by joe_zazen »

Makai

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Re: TheBore Safe Haven from GAF Alt-Right Mods - *THE STATEMENT*
« Reply #6869 on: October 22, 2017, 04:42:43 PM »
I love that I can tell that's the real Opiate from posting style.

Swollen Bowels

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Re: TheBore Safe Haven from GAF Alt-Right Mods - *THE STATEMENT*
« Reply #6870 on: October 22, 2017, 04:43:04 PM »
Talk about reaping what you sow, the irony of how gaf was taken down is incredible. The site really was getting insane with how users could dogpile and insult others like crazy until they got the "victim" banned and go on witch hunts.(even if i didn't feel much sympathy for many of the targets it was just getting to be too fucking much)

I'm fucking liberal as all holy hell but i rarely ever posted in social/political threads, all it took was one thing taken out of context or misconstrued and its over, wasn't worth all the eggshells I felt like I was under, just stay in the OT threads.

Like I felt like I couldn't even post my opinion about that guy who hugged that nazi, even if it didn't work, I just thought it was a nice heartfelt moment for that guy. I couldn't be bothered to take the chance of being accused of being a nazi moderate(and I'm fucking black)

You're  black and think hugging a Nazi is a productive means of combating people who want you and your entire race wiped off the face of the earth? Have some self-respect, man.

joe_zazen

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Re: TheBore Safe Haven from GAF Alt-Right Mods - *THE STATEMENT*
« Reply #6871 on: October 22, 2017, 04:43:11 PM »
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« Last Edit: November 01, 2017, 09:36:49 AM by joe_zazen »

zepblackstar

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Re: TheBore Safe Haven from GAF Alt-Right Mods - *THE STATEMENT*
« Reply #6872 on: October 22, 2017, 04:44:03 PM »
anyone know what happeend to BishopTL? did he know? he bailed out long ago. Same with EatChildren.

Self published a comic, went to work for visceral.  Guy is fine.

 :kobeyuck

nudemacusers

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Re: TheBore Safe Haven from GAF Alt-Right Mods - *THE STATEMENT*
« Reply #6873 on: October 22, 2017, 04:44:08 PM »
anyone know what happeend to BishopTL? did he know? he bailed out long ago. Same with EatChildren.
Apparently, he was permabanning posters he didn't care for incognito. EL found out and he was demodded. Technically he was an admin, so higher than a mod.

EatChildren just got tired with mod duties I think.

I’m still curious about the bish situation, if anyone wants to clear it up. He ALWAYS did mass bans and didn’t record them, from way back when I started modding. It was obvious if you even glanced at the ban log or poked around in the user database. I figured he was just allowed to do that. So did he do something else or more extreme to get de-adminned?

EL said that all banning needed to be cleared with him, though? He also said Bish was doing this for years, so maybe he was not aware until recently?
Who knows, lore’s story makes sense but this is also coming from the sex cult story guy so
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Propagandhim

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Re: TheBore Safe Haven from GAF Alt-Right Mods - *THE STATEMENT*
« Reply #6874 on: October 22, 2017, 04:44:28 PM »
I love that I can tell that's the real Opiate from posting style.

It is true that posting style diverge within a sample population of variated individuals, but what you infer as 'real' or the consequence thereof "realness" is primarily a

Re: TheBore Safe Haven from GAF Alt-Right Mods - *THE STATEMENT*
« Reply #6875 on: October 22, 2017, 04:44:40 PM »
Returning to the discussion about Besada's protection of minority groups: I think this is a good foil to discuss the broader challenge of moderating a large, responsible forum like GAF.

In the broadest abstract, I actually agree with Besada that minorities need to be protected. The tyranny of the majority is a real thing, and at the very least we need to offer some protection to disadvantaged or small groups so that they aren't simply overwhelmed. The idea, out of context, is sound, in my opinion.

But there are a couple specifics I feel most of the other moderators (not just Besada here) were missing, or at least which I think were important:

1) The most important kind of minority is not a racial minority or a religious minority, but an intellectual one. Often these go hand in hand (i.e. different religions have different intellectual bases), but they are not identical, and if I had to pick one type of diversity to defend first and foremost (I'd like to defend them all, of course) it would be intellectual diversity. It often seems that many people focus exclusively on more superficial types of diversity, and that seemed to be the case with several other moderators, to me.

2) What defines a minority is significantly context dependent. For instance, I am a white guy living in America, so at the moment I definitely do not qualify as a minority. But if I were to move to China -- as my sister has -- then I would rather quickly find myself as a minority, and the same tyranny-of-the-majority rules apply, where my sister is often ignored or overlooked because she is not naturally Chinese. As an example. Similarly, on GAF, conservatives were a minority, and I felt deserving of some protection simply because their voices were being drowned out. It didn't even have to be mean spirited drowning out -- if one person advocated a conservative position, he would often get 8 retorts back from liberals, simply because there were so many more liberals than conservatives. Even if none of those people was inherently trying to "pick" on the conservative, the end result must have been exhausting if you happened to hold political views that were not majority GAF opinion.

So I ultimately agree that protecting minority rights is important, just like Besada felt. I just think that means different things at different times. If I were moderating FoxsNews.Com forums, I would probably have found it necessary to reach and give special protections to liberals. If I were moderating MensHealth.com, I would probably feel obliged to make sure women who happened to post on that forum feel comfortable. Being a minority is context dependent, and most importantly can include being an intellectual minority. This, in essence, was a consistent sticking point between me and much of the other moderation staff.

minority here. ethnic and religious. i didnt need to be protected because of those 2 things if dogpiling would have been frowned upon. that was the issue. many users were allowed to dogpile on others regardless of level of differing opinion. if the opinion was literal hate, any forum which wasnt 4chan would ban that but if you werent PURELY within the slipstream of the collective thread opinion, you would be banned for being neutral. being neutral or aloof or not interested in politics of a situation or not interested in picking fights is not, should not be bannable offense. this is what ticked off most of the folks who were not the actual haters but who got run over by friendly fire.

and every one was triggered by everything moving. A word was different and everyone was piled on. it was a snake eating itself.

Cryo

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« Reply #6876 on: October 22, 2017, 04:44:48 PM »
Talk about reaping what you sow, the irony of how gaf was taken down is incredible. The site really was getting insane with how users could dogpile and insult others like crazy until they got the "victim" banned and go on witch hunts.(even if i didn't feel much sympathy for many of the targets it was just getting to be too fucking much)

I'm fucking liberal as all holy hell but i rarely ever posted in social/political threads, all it took was one thing taken out of context or misconstrued and its over, wasn't worth all the eggshells I felt like I was under, just stay in the OT threads.

Like I felt like I couldn't even post my opinion about that guy who hugged that nazi, even if it didn't work, I just thought it was a nice heartfelt moment for that guy. I couldn't be bothered to take the chance of being accused of being a nazi moderate(and I'm fucking black)

You're lack and think hugging a Nazi is a productive means of combating people who want you and your entire race wiped off the face of the earth? Have some self-respect, man.
Empathy can go a long way in some scenarios.

VomKriege

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Re: TheBore Safe Haven from GAF Alt-Right Mods - *THE STATEMENT*
« Reply #6877 on: October 22, 2017, 04:45:56 PM »
Less pontificating and more funny shitposts pls.
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« Reply #6878 on: October 22, 2017, 04:46:54 PM »
I just wanted to chat about some football.  "503 service unavailable" and some googling later... huh.

I (mostly) stayed out of all the GAF drama.  Found some good bros there to chat with while watching a game/fight or sitting on the can.  There were some threads that I 100% avoided as soon as certain members/mods started posting because they were seemingly always there to just stir up shit/stifle discussion. (don't really remember names outside of Besada and Liu Kang Baking a Pie; knew others more by their avatars)  Absolutely killed any conversation about topics I felt I could contribute to.  When I was being harassed by another poster on there and they refused to stop shitposting about me, I opted to contact a mod and was completely ignored.  I then contacted another... ignored again.  I'm assuming it was because of why I was being harassed: because I didn't take an ultra-liberal stance on something. (registered independent, always voted democrat, always leaned left... just not enough for some on GAF I guess)

But whatever.  I know a lot of people made GAF an integral part of their daily lives.  I wish them well if the site never returns.

injurai

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« Reply #6879 on: October 22, 2017, 04:47:20 PM »
Less pontificating and more funny shitposts pls.

This was the real problem of gaf, no taste in proper shit posting. Any driveby was a crime against vbulletin.

Cryo

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« Reply #6880 on: October 22, 2017, 04:47:21 PM »
Less pontificating and more funny shitposts pls.
We need some more content streams for this, can someone invite me to the GAF discord?

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« Reply #6881 on: October 22, 2017, 04:47:29 PM »
Talk about reaping what you sow, the irony of how gaf was taken down is incredible. The site really was getting insane with how users could dogpile and insult others like crazy until they got the "victim" banned and go on witch hunts.(even if i didn't feel much sympathy for many of the targets it was just getting to be too fucking much)

I'm fucking liberal as all holy hell but i rarely ever posted in social/political threads, all it took was one thing taken out of context or misconstrued and its over, wasn't worth all the eggshells I felt like I was under, just stay in the OT threads.

Like I felt like I couldn't even post my opinion about that guy who hugged that nazi, even if it didn't work, I just thought it was a nice heartfelt moment for that guy. I couldn't be bothered to take the chance of being accused of being a nazi moderate(and I'm fucking black)

You're lack and think hugging a Nazi is a productive means of combating people who want you and your entire race wiped off the face of the earth? Have some self-respect, man.

Controversial opinion, beware : The entire europe and USA were much more racist toward black people than Hitler was back in the time.

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« Reply #6882 on: October 22, 2017, 04:49:39 PM »
Talk about reaping what you sow, the irony of how gaf was taken down is incredible. The site really was getting insane with how users could dogpile and insult others like crazy until they got the "victim" banned and go on witch hunts.(even if i didn't feel much sympathy for many of the targets it was just getting to be too fucking much)

I'm fucking liberal as all holy hell but i rarely ever posted in social/political threads, all it took was one thing taken out of context or misconstrued and its over, wasn't worth all the eggshells I felt like I was under, just stay in the OT threads.

Like I felt like I couldn't even post my opinion about that guy who hugged that nazi, even if it didn't work, I just thought it was a nice heartfelt moment for that guy. I couldn't be bothered to take the chance of being accused of being a nazi moderate(and I'm fucking black)

You're  black and think hugging a Nazi is a productive means of combating people who want you and your entire race wiped off the face of the earth? Have some self-respect, man.

Do you actually think about your opinions or are you basing them on the fact that nazi punch gifs make your dick move a little?

joe_zazen

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« Reply #6883 on: October 22, 2017, 04:50:36 PM »
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« Last Edit: November 01, 2017, 09:37:03 AM by joe_zazen »

agrajag

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« Reply #6884 on: October 22, 2017, 04:51:49 PM »
Returning to the discussion about Besada's protection of minority groups: I think this is a good foil to discuss the broader challenge of moderating a large, responsible forum like GAF.

In the broadest abstract, I actually agree with Besada that minorities need to be protected. The tyranny of the majority is a real thing, and at the very least we need to offer some protection to disadvantaged or small groups so that they aren't simply overwhelmed. The idea, out of context, is sound, in my opinion.

But there are a couple specifics I feel most of the other moderators (not just Besada here) were missing, or at least which I think were important:

1) The most important kind of minority is not a racial minority or a religious minority, but an intellectual one. Often these go hand in hand (i.e. different religions have different intellectual bases), but they are not identical, and if I had to pick one type of diversity to defend first and foremost (I'd like to defend them all, of course) it would be intellectual diversity. It often seems that many people focus exclusively on more superficial types of diversity, and that seemed to be the case with several other moderators, to me.

2) What defines a minority is significantly context dependent. For instance, I am a white guy living in America, so at the moment I definitely do not qualify as a minority. But if I were to move to China -- as my sister has -- then I would rather quickly find myself as a minority, and the same tyranny-of-the-majority rules apply, where my sister is often ignored or overlooked because she is not naturally Chinese. As an example. Similarly, on GAF, conservatives were a minority, and I felt deserving of some protection simply because their voices were being drowned out. It didn't even have to be mean spirited drowning out -- if one person advocated a conservative position, he would often get 8 retorts back from liberals, simply because there were so many more liberals than conservatives. Even if none of those people was inherently trying to "pick" on the conservative, the end result must have been exhausting if you happened to hold political views that were not majority GAF opinion.

So I ultimately agree that protecting minority rights is important, just like Besada felt. I just think that means different things at different times. If I were moderating FoxsNews.Com forums, I would probably have found it necessary to reach and give special protections to liberals. If I were moderating MensHealth.com, I would probably feel obliged to make sure women who happened to post on that forum feel comfortable. Being a minority is context dependent, and most importantly can include being an intellectual minority. This, in essence, was a consistent sticking point between me and much of the other moderation staff.

minority here. ethnic and religious. i didnt need to be protected because of those 2 things if dogpiling would have been frowned upon. that was the issue. many users were allowed to dogpile on others regardless of level of differing opinion. if the opinion was literal hate, any forum which wasnt 4chan would ban that but if you werent PURELY within the slipstream of the collective thread opinion, you would be banned for being neutral. being neutral or aloof or not interested in politics of a situation or not interested in picking fights is not, should not be bannable offense. this is what ticked off most of the folks who were not the actual haters but who got run over by friendly fire.

and every one was triggered by everything moving. A word was different and everyone was piled on. it was a snake eating itself.

Not just neutral, but not sufficiently militant.  Eg. That thread where some got banned/demodded because they didn’t think beating people up was a good idea comes to mind.

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« Reply #6885 on: October 22, 2017, 04:51:51 PM »
Talk about reaping what you sow, the irony of how gaf was taken down is incredible. The site really was getting insane with how users could dogpile and insult others like crazy until they got the "victim" banned and go on witch hunts.(even if i didn't feel much sympathy for many of the targets it was just getting to be too fucking much)

I'm fucking liberal as all holy hell but i rarely ever posted in social/political threads, all it took was one thing taken out of context or misconstrued and its over, wasn't worth all the eggshells I felt like I was under, just stay in the OT threads.

Like I felt like I couldn't even post my opinion about that guy who hugged that nazi, even if it didn't work, I just thought it was a nice heartfelt moment for that guy. I couldn't be bothered to take the chance of being accused of being a nazi moderate(and I'm fucking black)

You're  black and think hugging a Nazi is a productive means of combating people who want you and your entire race wiped off the face of the earth? Have some self-respect, man.
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« Reply #6886 on: October 22, 2017, 04:51:53 PM »


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Re: TheBore Safe Haven from GAF Alt-Right Mods - *THE STATEMENT*
« Reply #6887 on: October 22, 2017, 04:52:18 PM »
anyone know what happeend to BishopTL? did he know? he bailed out long ago. Same with EatChildren.
Apparently, he was permabanning posters he didn't care for incognito. EL found out and he was demodded. Technically he was an admin, so higher than a mod.

EatChildren just got tired with mod duties I think.

I’m still curious about the bish situation, if anyone wants to clear it up. He ALWAYS did mass bans and didn’t record them, from way back when I started modding. It was obvious if you even glanced at the ban log or poked around in the user database. I figured he was just allowed to do that. So did he do something else or more extreme to get de-adminned?

EL said that all banning needed to be cleared with him, though? He also said Bish was doing this for years, so maybe he was not aware until recently?
Who knows, lore’s story makes sense but this is also coming from the sex cult story guy so

It doesn’t really make sense. It was very apparent he was doing it even early on in tenure, and if I noticed it quickly, EL had to notice it eventually. He couldn’t have been oblivious for a full decade.
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Re: TheBore Safe Haven from GAF Alt-Right Mods - *THE STATEMENT*
« Reply #6888 on: October 22, 2017, 04:52:55 PM »
Holy shit all the mods have been purged :lol

http://assets.neogafllc.netdna-cdn.com/forum/showgroups.php

Opiate

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« Reply #6889 on: October 22, 2017, 04:53:12 PM »
anyone know what happeend to BishopTL? did he know? he bailed out long ago. Same with EatChildren.
Apparently, he was permabanning posters he didn't care for incognito. EL found out and he was demodded. Technically he was an admin, so higher than a mod.

EatChildren just got tired with mod duties I think.

I’m still curious about the bish situation, if anyone wants to clear it up. He ALWAYS did mass bans and didn’t record them, from way back when I started modding. It was obvious if you even glanced at the ban log or poked around in the user database. I figured he was just allowed to do that. So did he do something else or more extreme to get de-adminned?

EL said that all banning needed to be cleared with him, though? He also said Bish was doing this for years, so maybe he was not aware until recently?

That definitely was not the case. The process of banning was this:

1) You ban the person. Up to you, as a moderator, to determine severity, etc.
2) In the mod forum, you catalog the ban. I banned XYZ for 20 days, for this post. Link post.

That's it. Very occasionally, someone would say, "that ban seems wrong to me," or something like that, but it was rarely if ever Evilore, as he was not engaged in day to day moderation duties -- and when he did decide to take part, his hand was often very heavy.

I was already gone when Bish left, but I can tell you that he was particularly and emphatically opposed to my banning certain people for attacking even remotely conservative posters. He was also especially willing to forgive posters who may have flown, let's say, a little off the handle, if they happened to espouse beliefs he shared. Again, I cannot say if this eventually led to his exit, but I doubt I was the only one to experience that friction. I noted before that there was definitely tribalism among the GAF mods, but he was especially notable, being highly protective of "his people" (whether we're speaking ideologically or otherwise) and very quick to ban people who were from other "tribes."

jacob.armitage

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Re: TheBore Safe Haven from GAF Alt-Right Mods - *THE STATEMENT*
« Reply #6890 on: October 22, 2017, 04:54:15 PM »
Talk about reaping what you sow, the irony of how gaf was taken down is incredible. The site really was getting insane with how users could dogpile and insult others like crazy until they got the "victim" banned and go on witch hunts.(even if i didn't feel much sympathy for many of the targets it was just getting to be too fucking much)

I'm fucking liberal as all holy hell but i rarely ever posted in social/political threads, all it took was one thing taken out of context or misconstrued and its over, wasn't worth all the eggshells I felt like I was under, just stay in the OT threads.

Like I felt like I couldn't even post my opinion about that guy who hugged that nazi, even if it didn't work, I just thought it was a nice heartfelt moment for that guy. I couldn't be bothered to take the chance of being accused of being a nazi moderate(and I'm fucking black)

You're  black and think hugging a Nazi is a productive means of combating people who want you and your entire race wiped off the face of the earth? Have some self-respect, man.

Do you actually think about your opinions or are you basing them on the fact that nazi punch gifs make your dick move a little?

The latter.

agrajag

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Re: TheBore Safe Haven from GAF Alt-Right Mods - *THE STATEMENT*
« Reply #6891 on: October 22, 2017, 04:55:05 PM »
anyone know what happeend to BishopTL? did he know? he bailed out long ago. Same with EatChildren.
Apparently, he was permabanning posters he didn't care for incognito. EL found out and he was demodded. Technically he was an admin, so higher than a mod.

EatChildren just got tired with mod duties I think.

I’m still curious about the bish situation, if anyone wants to clear it up. He ALWAYS did mass bans and didn’t record them, from way back when I started modding. It was obvious if you even glanced at the ban log or poked around in the user database. I figured he was just allowed to do that. So did he do something else or more extreme to get de-adminned?

EL said that all banning needed to be cleared with him, though? He also said Bish was doing this for years, so maybe he was not aware until recently?

That definitely was not the case. The process of banning was this:

1) You ban the person. Up to you, as a moderator, to determine severity, etc.
2) In the mod forum, you catalog the ban. I banned XYZ for 20 days, for this post. Link post.

That's it. Very occasionally, someone would say, "that ban seems wrong to me," or something like that, but it was rarely if ever Evilore, as he was not engaged in day to day moderation duties -- and when he did decided to take part, his hand was often very heavy.

I was already gone when Bish left, but I can tell you that he was particularly and emphatically opposed to my banning certain people for attacking even remotely conservative posters. He was also especially willing to forgive posters who may have flown, let's say, a little off the handle, if they happened to espouse beliefs he shared. Again, I cannot say if this eventually led to his exit, but I doubt I was the only one to experience that friction. I noted before that there was definitely tribalism among the GAF mods, but he was especially notable, being highly protective of "his people" (whether we're speaking ideologically or otherwise) and very quick to ban people who were from other tribes.

no offense, but you don't need to be a former mod to know any of this is true

The Silver

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Re: TheBore Safe Haven from GAF Alt-Right Mods - *THE STATEMENT*
« Reply #6892 on: October 22, 2017, 04:55:15 PM »
Talk about reaping what you sow, the irony of how gaf was taken down is incredible. The site really was getting insane with how users could dogpile and insult others like crazy until they got the "victim" banned and go on witch hunts.(even if i didn't feel much sympathy for many of the targets it was just getting to be too fucking much)

I'm fucking liberal as all holy hell but i rarely ever posted in social/political threads, all it took was one thing taken out of context or misconstrued and its over, wasn't worth all the eggshells I felt like I was under, just stay in the OT threads.

Like I felt like I couldn't even post my opinion about that guy who hugged that nazi, even if it didn't work, I just thought it was a nice heartfelt moment for that guy. I couldn't be bothered to take the chance of being accused of being a nazi moderate(and I'm fucking black)

You're  black and think hugging a Nazi is a productive means of combating people who want you and your entire race wiped off the face of the earth? Have some self-respect, man.
I can't tell if this serious or if you really just can't read. Where in the fuck did I say that I thought hugging was an effective method of doing anything? I said I thought it was a heartfelt moment for the hugger, that's it, that guy wanted to do something that he felt could possibly reach someone and change them and I thought it was nice. I didn't say I was gonna go hugging nazis, if I could press a button to wipe nazis and ISIS off the face of the earth I would press that fucking button, don't get it twisted.

Just because I personally don't have the patience and fortitude to try and reach people who wanna kill me through kindness doesn't mean I'm gonna shit on people who DO try to do that kind of stuff, more power to them.

ModernBoxes

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« Reply #6893 on: October 22, 2017, 04:55:36 PM »
Talk about reaping what you sow, the irony of how gaf was taken down is incredible. The site really was getting insane with how users could dogpile and insult others like crazy until they got the "victim" banned and go on witch hunts.(even if i didn't feel much sympathy for many of the targets it was just getting to be too fucking much)

I'm fucking liberal as all holy hell but i rarely ever posted in social/political threads, all it took was one thing taken out of context or misconstrued and its over, wasn't worth all the eggshells I felt like I was under, just stay in the OT threads.

Like I felt like I couldn't even post my opinion about that guy who hugged that nazi, even if it didn't work, I just thought it was a nice heartfelt moment for that guy. I couldn't be bothered to take the chance of being accused of being a nazi moderate(and I'm fucking black)

You're  black and think hugging a Nazi is a productive means of combating people who want you and your entire race wiped off the face of the earth? Have some self-respect, man.

"Be as angry and self righteous as me, react to things the way I react" -- gaf dot com

Pwnz

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« Reply #6894 on: October 22, 2017, 04:55:44 PM »
I love that I can tell that's the real Opiate from posting style.

Yeah. Sober, hopping on ADD meds and coffee, and extensive analysis. That's him.

RowRow

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Re: TheBore Safe Haven from GAF Alt-Right Mods - *THE STATEMENT*
« Reply #6895 on: October 22, 2017, 04:57:06 PM »
The opinions of when GAF went to shit wildly vary, some say pre-Gamergate was fine but I signed up 2 years before GamerGate and the place already had a reputation.

Maybe pre-Obama era.

When I lurked the one thing that always stuck out was Amirox being an asshole.

Bravotyler

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« Reply #6896 on: October 22, 2017, 04:57:23 PM »
Bish likely got the boot because Evilore was becoming increasingly paranoid of losing control of his website, and he's certainly been vindicated in that respect. He wasn't suited for the brand of puritan progressives that he let take over the site, and the amount of his posts protesting what OT was becoming and sometimes even committing acts that would get an ordinary user permabanned like whining about Anita Sarkeesian showed that he was slowly becoming less and less of a good fit for the monster GAF became. Bish had his own little cult while Evilore was mocked, especially in the Bish-protected BCT. Making him step down was too little, too late in turning the tides, though.

KarpalaJoe

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« Reply #6897 on: October 22, 2017, 04:58:03 PM »
anyone know what happeend to BishopTL? did he know? he bailed out long ago. Same with EatChildren.
Apparently, he was permabanning posters he didn't care for incognito. EL found out and he was demodded. Technically he was an admin, so higher than a mod.

EatChildren just got tired with mod duties I think.

I’m still curious about the bish situation, if anyone wants to clear it up. He ALWAYS did mass bans and didn’t record them, from way back when I started modding. It was obvious if you even glanced at the ban log or poked around in the user database. I figured he was just allowed to do that. So did he do something else or more extreme to get de-adminned?

EL said that all banning needed to be cleared with him, though? He also said Bish was doing this for years, so maybe he was not aware until recently?

That definitely was not the case. The process of banning was this:

1) You ban the person. Up to you, as a moderator, to determine severity, etc.
2) In the mod forum, you catalog the ban. I banned XYZ for 20 days, for this post. Link post.

That's it. Very occasionally, someone would say, "that ban seems wrong to me," or something like that, but it was rarely if ever Evilore, as he was not engaged in day to day moderation duties -- and when he did decided to take part, his hand was often very heavy.

I was already gone when Bish left, but I can tell you that he was particularly and emphatically opposed to my banning certain people for attacking even remotely conservative posters. He was also especially willing to forgive posters who may have flown, let's say, a little off the handle, if they happened to espouse beliefs he shared. Again, I cannot say if this eventually led to his exit, but I doubt I was the only one to experience that friction. I noted before that there was definitely tribalism among the GAF mods, but he was especially notable, being highly protective of "his people" (whether we're speaking ideologically or otherwise) and very quick to ban people who were from other tribes.

Do you feel like shit now that you're aware that everyone outside Neogaf despise it BECAUSE petty and despicable moderation practice, not be allowed to voice opinion without fearing ban hammer from basement dweller moderators and all that ?

I'm a muslim, I work in fashion with woman only, left and all and even I never dare to make an account there. 

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Re: TheBore Safe Haven from GAF Alt-Right Mods - *THE STATEMENT*
« Reply #6898 on: October 22, 2017, 04:58:04 PM »
.. so this thread is litchurally GAF now, huh? Like when you imitate something too long, you become it, is that the lesson?

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« Reply #6899 on: October 22, 2017, 04:59:03 PM »
.. so this thread is litchurally GAF now, huh? Like when you imitate something too long, you become it, is that the lesson?
Just blowback after the collapse from yesterday.  It will settle down. 

But will GAF be back?