Maybe the real NeoGAF was the friends we made along the way...

[Himu]

I mean, yeah, he still got in the shower with her. So he's still a creep even if they had a relationship but the fact this went down like this in the most gaf way possible is still poetic justice and beyond hilarious.

[Boredfrom]

Sorry if I'm being totally obvious here, but why would it matter if shower girl stayed friends with Tyler and even had relations with him afterwards? Why would that "hurt her credibility"? Sexual force and coercion is very common in marriages and long-term relationships that can go on for a long time afterwards. The societal norm dictates that guilt/blame/shame lies with the woman, so she very often keeps quiet and soldiers on. But you all know this of course.

Edit: Already posted by others. Whew.

Well, it didn't matter because she wanted to keep al of this private between friends. She also had a boyfriend at the time, thought.

At least she is honest, is better that it comes from her than waiting for Tyler to spin it.

[VomKriege]

Even if she did fuck him afterwards, she made it clear they weren't in that kind of relationship when he got in the shower with her.

Her fucking him later doesn't change anything. Tyler's still creepy chump.

Let's be real here. Clearly it wasn't that big of a deal to her if she continued to be friends with him and then even had a physical relationship with the guy after.

The question is why the fuck did she bring this up? This diminishes the viability of women that are harmed by predatory behavior.

Sorry to sound patronizing but I'm sure you're familiar with having evolving opinions on past events, for a variety of reasons.

[Optimus]

"In a phone conversation with Kotaku, Leupp said that even after the alleged shower incident, she’d continued her friendship and even had a brief physical relationship with Malka until they had a falling out at E3 2015. She said that, prior to the alleged shower incident “I had no reason not to trust him. He had been introducing me to people and helping me network for my film company,” she told me. “I feel gross from having ever been in contact with this person.”

What the flying fuck?!

She fucked him after the creepy shower incident. Credibility levels at fucking zero. Maybe that cult story was true.

 

Holy. shit. This makes it so much better now since it wasn't Evilore that destroyed the forum but the distinguished mentally-challenged SJ W culture of guilty until never proven innocent that he allowed to fester.

Perfection. 

[el gringo blanco]

I once slapped an ex in the face with my cock. Was that misogynist? She seemed to like it.

[injurai]

The only time I ever saw Evilore take sane action as a mod was in demodding Mumei, everything else he has done has been highly suspect.

[Nabbis]

Even if she did fuck him afterwards, she made it clear they weren't in that kind of relationship when he got in the shower with her.

Her fucking him later doesn't change anything. Tyler's still creepy chump.

Let's be real here. Clearly it wasn't that big of a deal to her if she continued to be friends with him and then even had a physical relationship with the guy after.

The question is why the fuck did she bring this up? This diminishes the viability of women that are harmed by predatory behavior.

I don't want to defend his ass but this really depends on the details. Given his history i would be less inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt but that's my hunch.

[Nintex]

This was his defense back in 2012. Why wasn't it the last straw back then?

Because -- at least for me -- it was the first straw (he may have done things before then, but I only joined GAF in 09). I can definitely see an argument for leaving then, but I also think one has to be careful with this sort of stand: if you refuse to work with anyone who has done something inarguably bad, then you would fairly quickly find yourself working alone. They have to do a sufficient number of things that make you say, "I simply cannot overlook this person's flaws any longer."

Please note also that I'm speaking for the other moderators, and cannot say this was their thinking. But it was certainly mine, before the decision was made for me (thus making any profession of purity moot).

Your entire OT was basically mobs piling on people who made a dumb mistake.

Also deciding not to work with serial harassers has not impacted my career in any way.
You have to be doing some pretty low bottom feeder shit (like working at Hollywood, for the Clintons or in the mob) to get to a point where you have to accept that sort of behavior.

Not to mention there's always the: "Hey dude, wtf you doin' man knock it off before it gets out of hand" phase that you go through first when you try to protect your friends or co-workers from themselves.
Yet all of you chuckled as Evilore scrubbed his slate clean from criticism with your pseudo philosophical 'talking about yourself in the 3rd person' horse shit.

[Optimus]

I once slapped an ex in the face with my cock. Was that misogynist? She seemed to like it.

Did you have written consent notarized by the state?

[Borgnine]

why are you inserting so many spaces at the start of each sentence?

Habit I started back in BBS days.    Hard to break typing habits that are 30+ years old as this point.

BBSes haven't been a thing for 28 of those years.

[TakingBackSunday]

"In a phone conversation with Kotaku, Leupp said that even after the alleged shower incident, she’d continued her friendship and even had a brief physical relationship with Malka until they had a falling out at E3 2015. She said that, prior to the alleged shower incident “I had no reason not to trust him. He had been introducing me to people and helping me network for my film company,” she told me. “I feel gross from having ever been in contact with this person.”

What the flying fuck?!

She fucked him after the creepy shower incident. Credibility levels at fucking zero. Maybe that cult story was true.

 

Holy. shit. This makes it so much better now since it wasn't Evilore that destroyed the forum but the distinguished mentally-challenged SJ W culture of guilty until never proven innocent that he allowed to fester.

Perfection. 

Oh fuck off with this

[BlackMage]

It still happened regardless of her feelings. It means it could easily have happened to someone else who was more negatively affected by it.

[VomKriege]

http://slaent.com/thread/1232086/page/73/post/1241992/

I was member/lurker of original Gaming-Age forums before the 2004ish Neogaf takeover/split

I would like to help relaunch the site with help of any willing mods and other members

Willing to spend considerable amount of funding to secure server/host and website in the same format/layout as original GAF - also would like to have actual site security instead of the usual unsecured connection

For the time being I think the relaunched site should have a modbot that only regulates spam,flame, personal attacks/insults, porn, extreme gore, etc etc type posts/images and also limit threads made to 1 per day per user but unlimited replies within the thread

If you are interested and know anyone I can get in touch with original members/team that are not scumbags or power hungry mods I am willing to put in at the least 50-100K to secure and run relaunched site/server.

 

[maninthemirror]

SO a couple of points

1. Even if the woman had a sexual relationship later, the past event is still sexual assault as he wasnt invited into doing it
2. When you ass grab a woman and then brag about it and yet say you were drunk , the fact that you were bragging about it means you didn’t care if you were drunk that you would do this while not drunk as well
3. The mods knew , they enabled his ego but giving him power by staying in power . The mod even admits they stayed despite previous stories . This is no different than Weinstein buddies saying they are mad after he got caught

[thisismyusername]

Till then fix our rep or whatever. Also LionPride acting like we attacked him when it just grand wizard thisismyusername.

And I'm pretty sure, fuck you. I'm at least prestige class.

[tummyfat]

If I don't sexually harass you the first time, Ima leoop around and get you the second time.

[OpinionatedCyborg]

This was his defense back in 2012. Why wasn't it the last straw back then?

Because -- at least for me -- it was the first straw (he may have done things before then, but I only joined GAF in 09). I can definitely see an argument for leaving then, but I also think one has to be careful with this sort of stand: if you refuse to work with anyone who has done something inarguably bad, then you would fairly quickly find yourself working alone. They have to do a sufficient number of things that make you say, "I simply cannot overlook this person's flaws any longer."

Please note also that I'm speaking for the other moderators, and cannot say this was their thinking. But it was certainly mine, before the decision was made for me (thus making any profession of purity moot).

He believed in the idea that you should grab a girls ass to exhude dominance over her.  That's not merely "doing something bad."

He bragged about it, defended it, banned people for arguing with him about it and then banned any discussion of the incident.

Yeah, he posted this as if it was reasonable and then doubled down on it when people called him out. Then he banned people who brought it up in the future.

There was no self-reflection leading to an admission of guilt or shame. He is a creep.

[Boredfrom]

Even if she did fuck him afterwards, she made it clear they weren't in that kind of relationship when he got in the shower with her.

Her fucking him later doesn't change anything. Tyler's still creepy chump.

Let's be real here. Clearly it wasn't that big of a deal to her if she continued to be friends with him and then even had a physical relationship with the guy after.

The question is why the fuck did she bring this up? This diminishes the viability of women that are harmed by predatory behavior.

You should remember that it was a leaked conversation were she admitted this. She is just telling bad experience she had to a group of friends (she didn't think it was going to be leaked).

[Himu]

So has EviLore done this to women he later didn't have a relationship with? Given the ass grab and now the shower thing, I'm going to think that it's very much a possibility. He seems to be a serial physical harasser. So gaf going down burning was justified in every way, but oh man I can't stop laughing.

[BlackMage]

In a sense evilore fucked us all. That's why a lot of us originally came here. He sux

[SwolDic]

Even if she did fuck him afterwards, she made it clear they weren't in that kind of relationship when he got in the shower with her.

Her fucking him later doesn't change anything. Tyler's still creepy chump.

Let's be real here. Clearly it wasn't that big of a deal to her if she continued to be friends with him and then even had a physical relationship with the guy after.

The question is why the fuck did she bring this up? This diminishes the viability of women that are harmed by predatory behavior.

People react to things over time, realize how fucked up things were, etc.  I went through some shit like that as a kid/teen and ended up with PTSD eventually after ignoring things for years.

She also could be lying or exagerating, we dont' really know.  But based on what she says, IMO, it changes nothing for now.

Exactly, we don't know the whole story but her staying friends with him, and then proceeding to have a brief physical relationship with him does change things. It changes what he did from sexual "assault" to poor fucking judgement and reading a situation wrong.

He didn't rape her, he didn't force her to do anything. He made a judgement call that was fucking off. Way off but that's not assault in my book. Clearly she didn't think so at the time either. Only now after all these celebrities (she's a director? hm) came out that she's rethinking something that happened years ago.

[Jenkem]

we need the coli's thoughts about this latest development

 

[Opiate]

This was his defense back in 2012. Why wasn't it the last straw back then?

Because -- at least for me -- it was the first straw (he may have done things before then, but I only joined GAF in 09). I can definitely see an argument for leaving then, but I also think one has to be careful with this sort of stand: if you refuse to work with anyone who has done something inarguably bad, then you would fairly quickly find yourself working alone. They have to do a sufficient number of things that make you say, "I simply cannot overlook this person's flaws any longer."

Please note also that I'm speaking for the other moderators, and cannot say this was their thinking. But it was certainly mine, before the decision was made for me (thus making any profession of purity moot).

He believed in the idea that you should grab a girls ass to exhude dominance over her.  That's not merely "doing something bad."

He bragged about it, defended it, banned people for arguing with him about it and then banned any discussion of the incident.

If that was his philosophical belief, I agree with you. If he did it once, when drunk, because he was stupid, I think he did a bad thing. I wouldn't even mind if he did jail time for it.

This should give you an idea of my personal line: I am okay with working for someone who has done jail time for stealing some apples, for example. I would not be okay if it were a repeat behavior or if he stole millions of dollars. You may not agree with my exact personal line, but everyone has one, and I do not think the other moderators were unreasonable in their choice. This seems like a good time.

[Optimus]

"In a phone conversation with Kotaku, Leupp said that even after the alleged shower incident, she’d continued her friendship and even had a brief physical relationship with Malka until they had a falling out at E3 2015. She said that, prior to the alleged shower incident “I had no reason not to trust him. He had been introducing me to people and helping me network for my film company,” she told me. “I feel gross from having ever been in contact with this person.”

What the flying fuck?!

She fucked him after the creepy shower incident. Credibility levels at fucking zero. Maybe that cult story was true.

 

Holy. shit. This makes it so much better now since it wasn't Evilore that destroyed the forum but the distinguished mentally-challenged SJ W culture of guilty until never proven innocent that he allowed to fester.

Perfection. 

Oh fuck off with this

You too buddy. Care to elaborate? Are you still on the Evilore definitely did this bandwagon? Are you sure they didn't actually flirt with each other and the awkward creep did it completely wrong resulting to her changing her mind? It sure doesn't seem like a big deal to her since she continued hanging out with him. Are you sure it wasn't an awkward incident that she now used to get sympathy like many morons do nowadays?

Fuck this bullshit about always condemning the accused. Show me some evidence or stfu about it especially after this new development.

[Opiate]

This was his defense back in 2012. Why wasn't it the last straw back then?

Because -- at least for me -- it was the first straw (he may have done things before then, but I only joined GAF in 09). I can definitely see an argument for leaving then, but I also think one has to be careful with this sort of stand: if you refuse to work with anyone who has done something inarguably bad, then you would fairly quickly find yourself working alone. They have to do a sufficient number of things that make you say, "I simply cannot overlook this person's flaws any longer."

Please note also that I'm speaking for the other moderators, and cannot say this was their thinking. But it was certainly mine, before the decision was made for me (thus making any profession of purity moot).

He believed in the idea that you should grab a girls ass to exhude dominance over her.  That's not merely "doing something bad."

He bragged about it, defended it, banned people for arguing with him about it and then banned any discussion of the incident.

Yeah, he posted this as if it was reasonable and then doubled down on it when people called him out. Then he banned people who brought it up in the future.

There was no self-reflection leading to an admission of guilt or shame. He is a creep.

This I definitely agree with: I am being relatively polite when I refer to Evil's moderation tendencies as heavy handed.

[FStop7]

"In a phone conversation with Kotaku, Leupp said that even after the alleged shower incident, she’d continued her friendship and even had a brief physical relationship with Malka until they had a falling out at E3 2015. She said that, prior to the alleged shower incident “I had no reason not to trust him. He had been introducing me to people and helping me network for my film company,” she told me. “I feel gross from having ever been in contact with this person.”

What the flying fuck?!

She fucked him after the creepy shower incident. Credibility levels at fucking zero. Maybe that cult story was true.

 

I mean a victim becoming attached to the victimizer is one of the oldest stories there is.

[Nervousxtian]

why are you inserting so many spaces at the start of each sentence?

Habit I started back in BBS days.    Hard to break typing habits that are 30+ years old as this point.

BBSes haven't been a thing for 28 of those years.

BBS didn't die until like 1996-97 though.   So you're off by 8 years.     I grew up as a teen on dial-up BBS.    Hard to break shit you learned at 14 and never bothered to change.   

[Boredfrom]

Even if she did fuck him afterwards, she made it clear they weren't in that kind of relationship when he got in the shower with her.

Her fucking him later doesn't change anything. Tyler's still creepy chump.

Let's be real here. Clearly it wasn't that big of a deal to her if she continued to be friends with him and then even had a physical relationship with the guy after.

The question is why the fuck did she bring this up? This diminishes the viability of women that are harmed by predatory behavior.

People react to things over time, realize how fucked up things were, etc.  I went through some shit like that as a kid/teen and ended up with PTSD eventually after ignoring things for years.

She also could be lying or exagerating, we dont' really know.  But based on what she says, IMO, it changes nothing for now.

Exactly, we don't know the whole story but her staying friends with him, and then proceeding to have a brief physical relationship with him does change things. It changes what he did from sexual "assault" to poor fucking judgement and reading a situation wrong.

He didn't rape her, he didn't force her to do anything. He made a judgement call that was fucking off. Way off but that's not assault in my book. Clearly she didn't think so at the time either. Only now after all these celebrities (she's a director? hm) came out that she's rethinking something that happened years ago.

He is still a creeper, thought. She has poor judgment and is clear she didn't wanted to share that  she actually got in relationships with EL with her Facebook group, but at least she is admitting it now and it is actually good given she wanted to be private in the first place.

[thehunter116]

I once slapped an ex in the face with my cock. Was that misogynist? She seemed to like it.

I dunno, did you step into the shower afterwards?

[Jenkem]

I mean a victim becoming attached to the victimizer is one of the oldest stories there is.

just look at the recent flood of GAFugees.

[Nola]

Even if she did fuck him afterwards, she made it clear they weren't in that kind of relationship when he got in the shower with her.

Her fucking him later doesn't change anything. Tyler's still creepy chump.

Let's be real here. Clearly it wasn't that big of a deal to her if she continued to be friends with him and then even had a physical relationship with the guy after.

The question is why the fuck did she bring this up? This diminishes the viability of women that are harmed by predatory behavior.

You should remember that it was a leaked conversation were she admitted this. She is just telling bad experience she had to a group of friends (she didn't think it was going to be leaked).

I think the picture i am getting is that the situation is a lot more complicated than initially assumed(surprise), with a lot of unknowns still out there that probably will never be known, and frankly, it does contain a bit of irony in how this went down given the caricature of GAF and its jump to conclusions mentality and an owner that allowed the proliferation of that behavior.

[etiolate]

He's a narcissist without a real job and yet has a good amount of money.  So he pretends to be a Playboy and one of his self-absorbed escapades backfired on him.

[injurai]

Even if she did fuck him afterwards, she made it clear they weren't in that kind of relationship when he got in the shower with her.

Her fucking him later doesn't change anything. Tyler's still creepy chump.

Let's be real here. Clearly it wasn't that big of a deal to her if she continued to be friends with him and then even had a physical relationship with the guy after.

The question is why the fuck did she bring this up? This diminishes the viability of women that are harmed by predatory behavior.

You should remember that it was a leaked conversation were she admitted this. She is just telling bad experience she had to a group of friends (she didn't think it was going to be leaked).

I think the picture i am getting is that the situation is a lot more complicated than initially assumed(surprise), with a lot of unknowns still out there that probably will never be known, and frankly, it does contain a bit of irony in how this went down given the caricature of GAF and its jump to conclusions mentality and an owner that allowed the proliferation of that behavior.

It's also probably how he and the whole structure lasted as long as it did.

[Sugar Pie Honey Bunch]

So has EviLore done this to women he later didn't have a relationship with? Given the ass grab and now the shower thing, I'm going to think that it's very much a possibility. He seems to be a serial physical harasser. So gaf going down burning was justified in every way, but oh man I can't stop laughing.

Yeah, this is where I'm at. Kind of a history there. As for this instance, I'm sure just about every guy/girl has gone in for a kiss after misreading signals from a friend, and maybe ended up in a relationship with them later on, but crawling into the shower with them right off the bat is pretty out there creep-wise and there's really no other way to read that.

[Himu]

"In a phone conversation with Kotaku, Leupp said that even after the alleged shower incident, she’d continued her friendship and even had a brief physical relationship with Malka until they had a falling out at E3 2015. She said that, prior to the alleged shower incident “I had no reason not to trust him. He had been introducing me to people and helping me network for my film company,” she told me. “I feel gross from having ever been in contact with this person.”

What the flying fuck?!

She fucked him after the creepy shower incident. Credibility levels at fucking zero. Maybe that cult story was true.

 

Holy. shit. This makes it so much better now since it wasn't Evilore that destroyed the forum but the distinguished mentally-challenged SJ W culture of guilty until never proven innocent that he allowed to fester.

Perfection. 

Oh fuck off with this

You too buddy. Care to elaborate? Are you still on the Evilore definitely did this bandwagon? Are you sure they didn't actually flirt with each other and the awkward creep did it completely wrong resulting to her changing her mind? It sure doesn't seem like a big deal to her since she continued hanging out with him. Are you sure it wasn't an awkward incident that she now used to get sympathy like many morons do nowadays?

Fuck this bullshit about always condemning the accused. Show me some evidence or stfu about it especially after this new development.

Lmao at this fuck nicca now defending EviLore after hate fucking gaf for ages just because now he can flex his MRA bullshit

[hungrynoob]

Damn.. his failed attempt at seducing a chick he later banged being the source of his livelihood crumbling is the kind of thing that makes Elliot Rogers out of people. Ouch.

If only tolerance had been encouraged in the past maybe the damage wouldnt have been so bad.

[VomKriege]

Jason Schreier reaction to Kotaku's article :

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[SwolDic]

Lmao at this fuck nicca now defending EviLore after hate fucking gaf for ages just because now he can flex his MRA bullshit

Shouldn't back down on your principles just because it's someone you hate. I can't stand the guy, nor that site, and i hope they both burn but that doesn't change the fact that the whole situation is murky as fuck.

[Boredfrom]

Even if she did fuck him afterwards, she made it clear they weren't in that kind of relationship when he got in the shower with her.

Her fucking him later doesn't change anything. Tyler's still creepy chump.

Let's be real here. Clearly it wasn't that big of a deal to her if she continued to be friends with him and then even had a physical relationship with the guy after.

The question is why the fuck did she bring this up? This diminishes the viability of women that are harmed by predatory behavior.

You should remember that it was a leaked conversation were she admitted this. She is just telling bad experience she had to a group of friends (she didn't think it was going to be leaked).

I think the picture i am getting is that the situation is a lot more complicated than initially assumed(surprise), with a lot of unknowns still out there that probably will never be known, and frankly, it does contain a bit of irony in how this went down given the caricature of GAF and its jump to conclusions mentality and an owner that allowed the proliferation of that behavior.

Pretty much.

Is not defending EL or condemning the victim, just that the situation was not that simple.

[Nervousxtian]

If the thing happened in April 2015.. and then she had sex with him later and had a falling out at E3 2015 which was in June.. that means he didn't exactly "read" the situation all that wrongly if they ended up hooking up relatively shortly after the shower incident.

I mean, unless we were in that room who knows what was going on between them.. but she did hook up with him within the next month or so.   

[thisismyusername]

I'm Commander TIMU and Kurt Russel is the my favorite new poster in all The Bore.

[Sugar Pie Honey Bunch]

Jason Schreier reaction to Kotaku's article :

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Haha, what a shithead. Spend half a weekend on a story, spend a couple years ignoring evidence in messages and comments.

[etiolate]

There is a sane happy place where you can say what Tyler did was bad and inappropriate ,and that the girl really was upset by it and yet not damaged over it. You don't have to go calling her a victim and saying she's psychologically tied to her victimizer. She's just full of bad decisions and he's full of himself.

[Nola]

He's a narcissist without a real job and yet has a good amount of money.  So he pretends to be a Playboy and one of his self-absorbed escapades backfired on him.

Evilore always came off to me like one of those mid 90's shut-ins that lacked developed social skills, wasn't very good looking, so he spent more time reading about ways to act in social settings and with girls than actually doing it. Who like many of that time you would come across online, were Jon Stewart liberals with somewhat misogynistic opinions of proper courting behavior.

A lot of the shit he says over the years comes off like it is directly out of some over-exagerrated PUA handbook some other shut-in would proliferate on bodybuilding.com or something.

[el gringo blanco]

I once slapped an ex in the face with my cock. Was that misogynist? She seemed to like it.

I dunno, did you step into the shower afterwards?

don't ever fucking address me again

[zomgbbqftw]

Lmao at this fuck nicca now defending EviLore after hate fucking gaf for ages just because now he can flex his MRA bullshit

Shouldn't back down on your principles just because it's someone you hate. I can't stand the guy, nor that site, and i hope they both burn but that doesn't change the fact that the whole situation is murky as fuck.

Same here. It is truly a fitting end that he has been hanged by the mob he created. "Believe"

[Borgnine]

WHERE IS THE STATEMENT.

[thehunter116]

There is a sane happy place where you can say what Tyler did was bad and inappropriate ,and that the girl really was upset by it and yet not damaged over it. You don't have to go calling her a victim and saying she's psychologically tied to her victimizer. She's just full of bad decisions and he's full of himself.

You don't have to go on tangents calling the girl out like shes the devil either.

He shit the bed and is paying the price.

[thehunter116]

I once slapped an ex in the face with my cock. Was that misogynist? She seemed to like it.

I dunno, did you step into the shower afterwards?

don't ever fucking address me again

Or what? 

[Optimus]

"In a phone conversation with Kotaku, Leupp said that even after the alleged shower incident, she’d continued her friendship and even had a brief physical relationship with Malka until they had a falling out at E3 2015. She said that, prior to the alleged shower incident “I had no reason not to trust him. He had been introducing me to people and helping me network for my film company,” she told me. “I feel gross from having ever been in contact with this person.”

What the flying fuck?!

She fucked him after the creepy shower incident. Credibility levels at fucking zero. Maybe that cult story was true.

 

Holy. shit. This makes it so much better now since it wasn't Evilore that destroyed the forum but the distinguished mentally-challenged SJ W culture of guilty until never proven innocent that he allowed to fester.

Perfection. 

Oh fuck off with this

You too buddy. Care to elaborate? Are you still on the Evilore definitely did this bandwagon? Are you sure they didn't actually flirt with each other and the awkward creep did it completely wrong resulting to her changing her mind? It sure doesn't seem like a big deal to her since she continued hanging out with him. Are you sure it wasn't an awkward incident that she now used to get sympathy like many morons do nowadays?

Fuck this bullshit about always condemning the accused. Show me some evidence or stfu about it especially after this new development.

Lmao at this fuck nicca now defending EviLore after hate fucking gaf for ages just because now he can flex his MRA bullshit

Oh no, I'm not changing my standards for someone I heavily dislike. Wait, does that mean you do? And btw I don't like identity politics loons from either side but if MRAs support the innocent until proven guilty then good for them. 

[SwolDic]

If the thing happened in April 2015.. and then she had sex with him later and had a falling out at E3 2015 which was in June.. that means he didn't exactly "read" the situation all that wrongly if they ended up hooking up relatively shortly after the shower incident.

I mean, unless we were in that room who knows what was going on between them.. but she did hook up with him within the next month or so.

Well, he did read it wrong. She didn't want him in there that night. That doesn't mean he didn't think they had something between them that signaled to him that he could make this bold move.

It's crazy that people want to provide the luxury to someone to be able to change their minds like this, effectively changing the past. That's a really slippery slope.

[EightBitNate]

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WHERE IS THE STATEMENT.

[Boredfrom]

Jason Schreier reaction to Kotaku's article :

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Fuck off Jason, I bet you that a lot of people send you emails or PM with examples of Tyler bad behavior without going on as Gators or from Voat. You just choose not to believe it by association. You are perfectly able to understand how to discriminate information in the search for leads, but you preferred to imagine that everything was a lie from GG.

[Widdle Puppy]

when is this idiot going to make a statement, good lord

[Khezu]

Considering what he did, and what kind of a weirdo alien creep he is, if EL jumped on this shit from the start and made a statement the second he got wind of it, one drafted by someone else, that actual has human feelings and emotions.
Do you think EL could have walked away from this with NeoGaf somewhat in tact? Or do you think either way, the community was going to eat him alive?

[etiolate]

"I wasn't protecting Tyler. I was protecting all the other mods! Gosh guys, why would I protect the guy that serves no benefit to me anymore? "

[Nervousxtian]

If the thing happened in April 2015.. and then she had sex with him later and had a falling out at E3 2015 which was in June.. that means he didn't exactly "read" the situation all that wrongly if they ended up hooking up relatively shortly after the shower incident.

I mean, unless we were in that room who knows what was going on between them.. but she did hook up with him within the next month or so.

Well, he did read it wrong. She didn't want him in there that night. That doesn't mean he didn't think they had something between them that signaled to him that he could make this bold move.

It's crazy that people want to provide the luxury to someone to be able to change their minds like this, effectively changing the past. That's a really slippery slope.

And by her own account he left the shower without incident.   

I don't like defending a guy like EL, who how obvious issues.. but from the start this sounded like something was missing from the equation. 

The hooking up later means that it's all the more likely their was some chemistry there.    Tyler obviously went in hard (ha) that night thinking he was making a strong move and got rejected.   

[VomKriege]

when is this idiot going to make a statement, good lord

Still haven't found that Discord link breh ?

So apparently, as you may have read upthread :
Ex-mods (who ?) trying to set up a new board.
Prospective name(s) chosen.
Plan to reach for GAF users somehow (do they have userbase rolls ?) and add them in waves.

Sounds like a trainwreck ready to happen.

[seagrams hotsauce]

I'm pretty sure you are never gonna get that statement guys

[Jenkem]

I'm pretty sure you are never gonna get that statement guys

let's ask Bobby to ghost-write it