Maybe the real NeoGAF was the friends we made along the way...

[Bore Expert]

Beginning to realize the only reason I read Gaf was just to giggle at morons.

Movie threads will never be the same.

[Let's Cyber]

Seeing GAF devolve into a chaotic smouldering crater is super cathartic after the amir0x fuckery. This all should have gone down a few months ago after EviLore's bullshit response, but better late than never.

 

[daemon]

One last thing: is harrasment/racism/insert a wrong here ever ok? No

Can a person change: yes

I think this is very fundamental to whats wrong with todays culture, people being held up a mirror of where they were at some point to where they are now. As if their personality and psyche is some kind of monolith that doesn’t change. Like you can’t be a feminist now and try to live up to that now if in the past you were an idiot. This doesn’t make you a hypocrite per se, but a changed man.

Not saying this is the case with EL but in general everyone gets put under this microscope of scrutiny and no one can live up to imaginery standards of perfection.

We humans are seriously not equipped evolutionarily speaking for modern digital life.

It’s reverted us back to scarlet letter style pillory nonsense. But shit can be a near life sentence and not even get a day in court over your sentencing. So much of human interaction is non-verbal and so much is built on the fact we don’t have a historical encyclopedia of everyone’s past. A spotty and incomplete of context one at that.

I definitely sympathize on that end. Then again that dark side of me wants to also say on the meta level, evilore fostered that very type of culture for monetary gain and is seeing that pillory culture bite him in the ass. So it’s hard to feel THAT bad for the guy even though my ideal self would be a bit more sympathetic in most other situations.

there is nothing dark about acknowledging this is a case of "you reap what you sow"

[PogiJones]

One last thing: is harrasment/racism/insert a wrong here ever ok? No

Can a person change: yes

I think this is very fundamental to whats wrong with todays culture, people being held up a mirror of where they were at some point to where they are now. As if their personality and psyche is some kind of monolith that doesn’t change. Like you can’t be a feminist now and try to live up to that now if in the past you were an idiot. This doesn’t make you a hypocrite per se, but a changed man.

Not saying this is the case with EL but in general everyone gets put under this microscope of scrutiny and no one can live up to imaginery standards of perfection.

We humans are seriously not equipped evolutionarily speaking for modern digital life.

It’s reverted us back to scarlet letter style pillory nonsense. But shit can be a near life sentence and not even get a day in court over your sentencing. So much of human interaction is non-verbal and so much is built on the fact we don’t have a historical encyclopedia of everyone’s past. A spotty and incomplete of context one at that.

I definitely sympathize on that end. Then again that dark side of me wants to also say on the meta level, evilore fostered that very type of culture for monetary gain and is seeing that pillory culture bite him in the ass. So it’s hard to feel THAT bad for the guy even though my ideal self would be a bit more sympathetic in most other situations.

I've started to question whether the enormous good the internet brings actually outweighs the bad. I haven't come to a conclusion on that yet, but it's been on my mind the past year or so.

[Daffy Duck]

Looks like a total dumpster at the minute.

Porn everywhere, goatse poppin up in some threads.

Yikes.

One last thing: is harrasment/racism/insert a wrong here ever ok? No

Can a person change: yes

I think this is very fundamental to whats wrong with todays culture, people being held up a mirror of where they were at some point to where they are now. As if their personality and psyche is some kind of monolith that doesn’t change. Like you can’t be a feminist now and try to live up to that now if in the past you were an idiot. This doesn’t make you a hypocrite per se, but a changed man.

Not saying this is the case with EL but in general everyone gets put under this microscope of scrutiny and no one can live up to imaginery standards of perfection.

We humans are seriously not equipped evolutionarily speaking for modern digital life. So much of human interaction is non-verbal and so much is built on the fact we don’t have a historical encyclopedia of everyone’s past. A spotty and incomplete of context one at that.


It’s reverted us back to scarlet letter style pillory nonsense. But shit can be a near life sentence and not even get a day in court over your sentencing.


I definitely sympathize on that end. Then again that dark side of me wants to also say on the meta level, evilore fostered that very type of culture for monetary gain and is seeing that pillory culture bite him in the ass. So it’s hard to feel THAT bad for the guy even though my ideal self would be a bit more empathetic in most other situations.

I feel you on this.

In response to all this, I don't know either person involved, one claims one thing the other claims something else, who knows what's what.

[dridru]

One last thing: is harrasment/racism/insert a wrong here ever ok? No

Can a person change: yes

I think this is very fundamental to whats wrong with todays culture, people being held up a mirror of where they were at some point to where they are now. As if their personality and psyche is some kind of monolith that doesn’t change. Like you can’t be a feminist now and try to live up to that now if in the past you were an idiot. This doesn’t make you a hypocrite per se, but a changed man.

Not saying this is the case with EL but in general everyone gets put under this microscope of scrutiny and no one can live up to imaginery standards of perfection.

We humans are seriously not equipped evolutionarily speaking for modern digital life.

It’s reverted us back to scarlet letter style pillory nonsense. But shit can be a near life sentence and not even get a day in court over your sentencing. So much of human interaction is non-verbal and so much is built on the fact we don’t have a historical encyclopedia of everyone’s past. A spotty and incomplete of context one at that.

I definitely sympathize on that end. Then again that dark side of me wants to also say on the meta level, evilore fostered that very type of culture for monetary gain and is seeing that pillory culture bite him in the ass. So it’s hard to feel THAT bad for the guy even though my ideal self would be a bit more sympathetic in most other situations.

I've started to question whether the enormous good the internet brings actually outweighs the bad. I haven't come to a conclusion on that yet, but it's been on my mind the past year or so.

The internet itself is fine. Just the social media aspect ruined a shit ton of stuff. Basically: Youtube, Facebook and Twitter are a mistake. Or at least the ability there for every moron to air their bullshit to millions.

[Transhuman]

Looks like a total dumpster at the minute.

Porn everywhere, goatse poppin up in some threads.

Yikes.

And not even good shit

[samir]

One last thing: is harrasment/racism/insert a wrong here ever ok? No

Can a person change: yes

I think this is very fundamental to whats wrong with todays culture, people being held up a mirror of where they were at some point to where they are now. As if their personality and psyche is some kind of monolith that doesn’t change. Like you can’t be a feminist now and try to live up to that now if in the past you were an idiot. This doesn’t make you a hypocrite per se, but a changed man.

Not saying this is the case with EL but in general everyone gets put under this microscope of scrutiny and no one can live up to imaginery standards of perfection.

We humans are seriously not equipped evolutionarily speaking for modern digital life.

It’s reverted us back to scarlet letter style pillory nonsense. But shit can be a near life sentence and not even get a day in court over your sentencing. So much of human interaction is non-verbal and so much is built on the fact we don’t have a historical encyclopedia of everyone’s past. A spotty and incomplete of context one at that.

I definitely sympathize on that end. Then again that dark side of me wants to also say on the meta level, evilore fostered that very type of culture for monetary gain and is seeing that pillory culture bite him in the ass. So it’s hard to feel THAT bad for the guy even though my ideal self would be a bit more sympathetic in most other situations.

I've started to question whether the enormous good the internet brings actually outweighs the bad. I haven't come to a conclusion on that yet, but it's been on my mind the past year or so.

Stop taking video game forums so seriously.

Whether the good actually outweighs the bad... ROLLING MY FUCKING EYES HERE

[Nabbis]

I've started to question whether the enormous good the internet brings actually outweighs the bad. I haven't come to a conclusion on that yet, but it's been on my mind the past year or so.

What bad? People can always not post or look at stupid shit.

[Jerry]

I've started to question whether the enormous good the internet brings actually outweighs the bad. I haven't come to a conclusion on that yet, but it's been on my mind the past year or so.

Jesus Christ, get a grip.

[Cerveza mas fina]

I don't know if the internet is fine, but we definitely need education about how to function and behave in this new world.

I saw or read some interesting stuff how social media is not allowing people to change as their past is always there and will be brought up. You can't escape this weight on your shoulders that you have built up in a lifetime, its a burden.

Let's say you wanted to be a woman but are born a man, it used to be you could move away from where you live and start afresh, but you are always connected to your past.

It's very interesting.

[LurkinMerkin]

there is nothing dark about acknowledging this is a case of "you reap what you sow"

Speak for yourself. Schadenfreude is a dish best served creamed.

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[PogiJones]

Stop taking video game forums so seriously.

Whether the good actually outweighs the bad... ROLLING MY FUCKING EYES HERE

What bad? People can always not post or look at stupid shit.

I'm not just talking about video game forums. I'm talking about how digital interactions affect our general feeling toward other people. The less human, the less real people are to us, the easier it is to hate. Take road rage, for example. Place a couple pieces of glass and a few dozen feet between people, hate can spark instantly. Then, even after getting out of the car and facing each other face to face, the hate that spawned when isolated from each other remains.

Now, how much easier then is it to dehumanize and hate artificial words on a screen that are mere representations of people? If hate grows in that environment, it will remain even after face-to-face contact occurs.

Now, that's not to say dehumanization never occurred before; the Holocaust is an obvious example. But I do feel that the digital age has sort of greased the wheels on the dehumanization process.

[blaze]

http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=1453815


 

[cityhunter]

Just tried logging in for shits and giggles. It keeps bouncing me to the front page with log in and stuff still blank as if I never existed. Guess my account got nuked hard for making fun of Modbot and calling it CowardBot, and whoever uses it to shut down threads are spineless cowards that don't own up to their own decision.

Also seeing the new direction of double down on hiding behind Modbot and anon modding lol. 

[Kartik]

That statement is so amateurish. The one he showed to the mods was even more awful. He's like Trump-lite.

[Transhuman]

Well, guys it's been fun. Done with GAF topic till the shower drains.

See y'all.

fixed

[nomis]

basically i was just lulzing that all the mods peaced out without being too directly account suicidal about malka before the site went offline

if that shit was one week ban-worthy i wish i hadn’t been such a fucking pussy

[Bore Expert]

Did any of you read bish’s Comic book?

How were the graphics?

[Kyougar]

Some of those Account suicides will regret it later when they try to get an account in ResetEra

Or maybe not? Maybe "bans resulting from Evilore evil machinations are not taken into consideration when looking at the forum-entry-application". Harassing people that the moderation team deems "undesirable" is probably okay, it was okay on NeoGaf.

[Deavl]

Did any of you read bish’s Comic book?

How were the graphics?

2/10 Had to color it myself

[Bore Expert]

Did any of you read bish’s Comic book?

How were the graphics?

2/10 Had to color it myself

These things don’t color themselves. Or shit, maybe they do!

[Raist]

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This picture is what you'd expect to see in an article about a serial killer being identified and caught.
It's spoopy as fuck.

[J Tourettes]

Well I wasn't going to suicide, but apparently I'm banned for being a right wing nutjob anyway 

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As far as I can tell, the most offensive post I made

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I might as well have just suicided the account like everyone else

Lesson: don't be called Chuck Norris or you're automatically a right wing nut job

Get on my level
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My fourth and final perma pisses all over that

[Jerry]

Well I wasn't going to suicide, but apparently I'm banned for being a right wing nutjob anyway 

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As far as I can tell, the most offensive post I made

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I might as well have just suicided the account like everyone else

Lesson: don't be called Chuck Norris or you're automatically a right wing nut job

Get on my level
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My fourth and final perma pisses all over that (Image removed from quote.)

 

[Momo]

Sounds like J Tourettes

[Barry Egan]

My fourth and final perma pisses all over that (Image removed from quote.)

We Need To Talk About J Tourettes

[J Tourettes]

I just want to be loved.

[Momo]

I just want to be loved.

[Transhuman]

J about this animal you killed, did it die slowly?

[zomgbbqftw]

Jimbor > J Tourrettes

Jimbor was a cunt and fucking told you he was a cunt in every post.

[samir]

why do grown men and women talk about video games

get a lyfe

[Momo]

Has anyone asked Bobby Roberts where he is going?

[Barry Egan]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1453867

[Kurt Russell]

BritGAF wakes up in 2 hours

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If that was britgaf, he'd be driving a truck.

[Jerry]

BritGAF wakes up in 2 hours

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If that was britgaf, he'd be driving a truck.

 

[BranVan3000]

Well I wasn't going to suicide, but apparently I'm banned for being a right wing nutjob anyway 

(Image removed from quote.)

As far as I can tell, the most offensive post I made

(Image removed from quote.)

I might as well have just suicided the account like everyone else

Lesson: don't be called Chuck Norris or you're automatically a right wing nut job

Get on my level
(Image removed from quote.)

My fourth and final perma pisses all over that (Image removed from quote.)

Charge your phone 

[Kurt Russell]

How is the Resetera Bans Carry Over policy supposed to work with so many people suiciding their accounts?

The Bans cannot carry over. If they are found to be wholesale transferring personal information (of which email addresses would certainly qualify), they fall foul of European data protection laws just for starters. In fact, my professional interpretation of the Data Protection Act / GDPR would be that no data can be moved over from GAF without explicit consent agreements from the subjects that provided the data. If they carry stuff over, bodies such as the ICO will ream them. Fines are potentially in excess of $500,000 (if they want to continue operating in Euroland).

 

A truck of peace.

[Marhunchy]

a lorry, you mean

[Jerry]

A truck of peace.

Tenuous at best

a lorry, you mean

And yeh, that

[Kurt Russell]

A truck of peace.

Tenuous at best

a lorry, you mean

And yeh, that

Sorry I'll try harder.

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mods halp

[close]

[Raist]

Since we're talking about our last stands apparently.

You have been banned for the following reason:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=218315108&postcount=247, And that's a shit post that doesn't address the topic. since you were on perm warning, Goodbye.

Date the ban will be lifted: Never

The funniest bit about it is that the author of the article in question went "it was a really dumb piece, sorry guys" days later.

edit: if you're too lazy to click through 2 links (I would) heres how the article ends. Its even more distinguished mentally-challenged than I remembered

I don't know if Playground Games intended this to feel like so potent a metaphor, but playing in a country where so much policy is dictated by wealthy baby boomers whose views have not changed a jot since they were young, who are so wrapped up in wealth and privilege that they refuse to consider the wider world around them, realising that the only way to succeed was to leave the parking lot behind felt profound. May we someday leave that parking lot, so that I and many others can feel proud to call the Australia of Forza Horizon 3 home.

[PogiJones]

Whew, the thread seems to have finally slowed down to the point where communication can happen.

I think ResetERA is going to bomb as compared to GAF's activity, their paranoia (maybe justified in this case) of enemy infiltration and sabotage is pushing them way too hard into exclusivity territory. It's going to hurt their appeal.

From the leaks I've read, Cerium's project management skills are appalling.

He should have had the whole thing up and running by today. Everything they're doing in that Discord is useless fluff. You'll never be able to keep trolls from signing up. Just get enough vetted mods to ban them as they appear, or utilize a downvote system.

Yeah, I thought they were supposed to be up already. GAF being back up before them is going to really dampen their ability to attract lurkers looking for gaming news. There was pent up demand while GAF was down; now that moment has passed. They'll have to try to grow organically since they couldn't beat GAF to the punch.

How did Cerium end up in charge, anyway?

[FreeNudeLyleLanley]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=252784909&postcount=3101

Did he deny that it happened? No. Have you ever heard of two sides too a story? Maybe he thought it was consensual? He was drunk, do you think signals maybe had been mixed?

Yeah idiots, did you ever stop to think that maybe he thought it was consensual?

[samir]

Whew, the thread seems to have finally slowed down to the point where communication can happen.

I think ResetERA is going to bomb as compared to GAF's activity, their paranoia (maybe justified in this case) of enemy infiltration and sabotage is pushing them way too hard into exclusivity territory. It's going to hurt their appeal.

From the leaks I've read, Cerium's project management skills are appalling.

He should have had the whole thing up and running by today. Everything they're doing in that Discord is useless fluff. You'll never be able to keep trolls from signing up. Just get enough vetted mods to ban them as they appear, or utilize a downvote system.

Yeah, I thought they were supposed to be up already. GAF being back up before them is going to really dampen their ability to attract lurkers looking for gaming news. There was pent up demand while GAF was down; now that moment has passed. They'll have to try to grow organically since they couldn't beat GAF to the punch.

How did Cerium end up in charge, anyway?

is he by chance jewish? 

[who is ted danson?]

Cerium's PM skills are the reason Hillary lost.

[Pills Here]

Why don't people just not post instead of requesting bans tho

[Kurt Russell]

Why don't people just not post instead of requesting bans tho

Virtue Signalling 2.0

[jorma]

How is the Resetera Bans Carry Over policy supposed to work with so many people suiciding their accounts?

The Bans cannot carry over. If they are found to be wholesale transferring personal information (of which email addresses would certainly qualify), they fall foul of European data protection laws just for starters. In fact, my professional interpretation of the Data Protection Act / GDPR would be that no data can be moved over from GAF without explicit consent agreements from the subjects that provided the data. If they carry stuff over, bodies such as the ICO will ream them. Fines are potentially in excess of $500,000 (if they want to continue operating in Euroland).

 

A truck of peace.

Yeah not sure it applies to data stored in the US though, but i'm thinking that stealing that data without consent from the owner must be illegal in the US either way.

[Kurt Russell]

Yeah not sure it applies to data stored in the US though, but i'm thinking that stealing that data without consent from the owner must be illegal in the US either way.

It applies if their website is available in the EU.

[Raist]

The only way they can do this is if they have a copy of the email address / IPs database.

So yeah, I've mentioned it earlier in this thread. If they go through with it, that's a HUGE fuck up.

[dridru]

How is the Resetera Bans Carry Over policy supposed to work with so many people suiciding their accounts?

The Bans cannot carry over. If they are found to be wholesale transferring personal information (of which email addresses would certainly qualify), they fall foul of European data protection laws just for starters. In fact, my professional interpretation of the Data Protection Act / GDPR would be that no data can be moved over from GAF without explicit consent agreements from the subjects that provided the data. If they carry stuff over, bodies such as the ICO will ream them. Fines are potentially in excess of $500,000 (if they want to continue operating in Euroland).

How would they even get the emails? They probably just check usernames or something. Which could easily lead to fakes. But I doubt they exported an emails database from NeoGAF before it went offline.

[Kurt Russell]

The only way they can do this is if they have a copy of the email address / IPs database.

So yeah, I've mentioned it earlier in this thread. If they go through with it, that's a HUGE fuck up.

Yup. The moment they went live, they'd be in violation and liable for eye watering fines. I really hope they don't read this and actually do it.

How would they even get the emails? They probably just check usernames or something. Which could easily lead to fakes. But I doubt they exported an emails database from NeoGAF before it went offline.

I don't have much experience with bb software. I played with one once for about a week. From my hazy memory, I seem to recall that it's trivial to export a copy of the tables that hold user registration information. They're all SQL or whatnot.

[samir]

none of the morons involved with resettttra would have access to the neogaf db anyway

[Raist]

How is the Resetera Bans Carry Over policy supposed to work with so many people suiciding their accounts?

The Bans cannot carry over. If they are found to be wholesale transferring personal information (of which email addresses would certainly qualify), they fall foul of European data protection laws just for starters. In fact, my professional interpretation of the Data Protection Act / GDPR would be that no data can be moved over from GAF without explicit consent agreements from the subjects that provided the data. If they carry stuff over, bodies such as the ICO will ream them. Fines are potentially in excess of $500,000 (if they want to continue operating in Euroland).

How would they even get the emails? They probably just check usernames or something. Which could easily lead to fakes. But I doubt they exported an emails database from NeoGAF before it went offline.

Every mod had access to the information. Not to mention modbot. Which in essence was a bot tied to the user db.

[Occam]

BritGAF wakes up in 2 hours

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If that was britgaf, he'd be driving a truck.

You mean a lorry.

[Raist]

It will be really easy to test anyway. If you were banned from GAF, just sign up to Resettraeratsea with a different username, but using the same email and from the same IP address.

[Maiden Voyage]

Whew, the thread seems to have finally slowed down to the point where communication can happen.

I think ResetERA is going to bomb as compared to GAF's activity, their paranoia (maybe justified in this case) of enemy infiltration and sabotage is pushing them way too hard into exclusivity territory. It's going to hurt their appeal.

From the leaks I've read, Cerium's project management skills are appalling.

He should have had the whole thing up and running by today. Everything they're doing in that Discord is useless fluff. You'll never be able to keep trolls from signing up. Just get enough vetted mods to ban them as they appear, or utilize a downvote system.

So Resetter will collapse and everyone will splinter further or return to GAF... Not overtly shocking.

[Kurt Russell]

http://slaent.com/thread/1256824/

FCC is voting to gut Net Neutrality.

I feel like this is always trying to be destroyed. Writing congressmen only shorts halts it and then they all send me their shitty newslists.

Well when it's done, goodbye anything and everything.

Then how will we ever have nights like this again?

The Market will fix it. If there is a demand for neutral and equal access to the entire internet by enough people, then someone will provide that product. Exactly what happened when the internet moved out of campuses and research facilities and into homes.

[WanderingWind]

So is this thread getting renamed to something else or nah