Maybe the real NeoGAF was the friends we made along the way...

[Phoenix Dark]

It's early but any idea how GAF's userbase numbers have been impacted, how RE is doing etc?

[FunSlower]

You're willing to go to jail for potentially using the wrong pronoun to describe a person? Canada passed a law for this. It's a hate crime if you fuck up someone's gender now over there lol.

Sorry, but if that means i have to vote for a conservative prick to avoid something like this than so be it.

Jail? No, I'm just saying it's really easy to not say certain words. That's all I mean.

[CyclopticTendencies]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/certain-actions-in-super-mario-odyssey-not-being-possible-in-portable-mode-is-disappointing.1262/page-5

Worse gamers than polygon. Everything is too complicated these days 

https://twitter.com/radicalbytes/status/923170759064748032

this distinguished mentally-challenged fellow is the corporate version of norm chomsky

distinguished mentally-challenged fellow...norm chomsky

norm chomsky

norm

[Himu]

Got approved for Reset and since there's still many question marks about it from people who are scared of being banned for wrong think I have made this post for the team.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/the-thread-for-site-questions-that-dont-need-their-own-thread.903/page-7#post-80962

Prob going to get banned for mentioning GAF and Lore.

That'd be fucking stupid considering the circumstances of why the board was made.

[Assimilate]

Got approved for Reset and since there's still many question marks about it from people who are scared of being banned for wrong think I have made this post for the team.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/the-thread-for-site-questions-that-dont-need-their-own-thread.903/page-7#post-80962

Prob going to get banned for mentioning GAF and Lore.

That'd be fucking stupid.

is it wrong of me to want to you see get banned for this?   

[benjipwns]

https://twitter.com/messofanego/status/923405349322866688

 

wow troubling thankfully someone on twitter lept to my defense

[benjipwns]

http://twitter.com/messofanego/status/923605392281735168

https://www.resetera.com/threads/thor-ragnaroks-relevance-to-resetera-spoilers.1303/

[Himu]

They did say to never mention GAF or Lore. It might be stupid but that was one of their mission statements, including leaving GAF shit in the apst. So it's on you

They mention gaf in other threads.

We'll see what happens.

[injurai]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/kellogg%E2%80%99s-apologizes-for-lone-brown-corn-pop-on-cereal-box.1366/

Kill me

Ehh, that's certainly a bit sketch. You have to deliberately alter your color pallet while making a janitorial corn puff.

[Himu]

To be fair, dude says "don't make threads about neogaf". He didn't say don't make posts.

[injurai]

Got approved for Reset and since there's still many question marks about it from people who are scared of being banned for wrong think I have made this post for the team.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/the-thread-for-site-questions-that-dont-need-their-own-thread.903/page-7#post-80962

 

[Assimilate]

They did say to never mention GAF or Lore. It might be stupid but that was one of their mission statements, including leaving GAF shit in the apst. So it's on you

They mention gaf in other threads.

We'll see what happens.

you're lucky i haven't been approved yet.

i'd so be ready with a "isn't this a bannable offense?" 

[injurai]

They did say to never mention GAF or Lore. It might be stupid but that was one of their mission statements, including leaving GAF shit in the apst. So it's on you

They mention gaf in other threads.

We'll see what happens.

you're lucky i haven't been approved yet.

i'd so be ready with a "isn't this a bannable offense?" 

Kiss ass at that point. You'd be trying to bait an entire forum into continuing down the old path.

[Tektonic]

They did say to never mention GAF or Lore. It might be stupid but that was one of their mission statements, including leaving GAF shit in the apst. So it's on you

They mention gaf in other threads.

We'll see what happens.

you just triggered some1

[gfm793]

I don't care how many of a certain group there are, if I can adjust my language to not piss off people, it doesn't take any effort. Sure I'll be happy to. It's not tough.

Look I won't go out of my way to be offensive unless someone really deserves it. That being said, outside of straight up racial slurs the labeling game comes down to power games and offense farming. Which hey, if you want to go down that route, go ahead but history has kinda shown its never ending.

Every time I think of this topic I'm reminded of this comic, that is probably 10 years older than half of the moderators at risotto.

[Assimilate]

They did say to never mention GAF or Lore. It might be stupid but that was one of their mission statements, including leaving GAF shit in the apst. So it's on you

They mention gaf in other threads.

We'll see what happens.

you're lucky i haven't been approved yet.

i'd so be ready with a "isn't this a bannable offense?" 

Kiss ass at that point. You'd be trying to bait an entire forum into continuing down the old path.

You think i care? i don't like those mods, i don't like most of the gaf user base. for whatever sick reason people seem to think evillore was the biggest culprit of that culture but he wasn't, it was the mods he chose and the people that were allowed to facilitate the echochamber.


Well someone did one better

I know moderation is taking transparency around bans seriously and want to handle how they hand out/deal with bans much better. I also want it to be in a position where we can discuss people's bans and question their validitity... However

You were probably banned because that was a prime example of a red herring. And you consistently used Social Studies Warrior as a pjorative term/hand waived people's concerns. There's no reason why people cannot present their concerns. You may not agree with them, but it's not our place to say "Ughhh why don't you just shut up, you whiny little *#$@es" which is kind of how your post there came off.

[Nabbis]

I don't care how many of a certain group there are, if I can adjust my language to not piss of people, it doesn't take any effort. Sure I'll be happy to. It's not tough.

You're willing to reshape language? really? Get rid of "He" and "She", "you guys" 

all of it? really?

yeah, who gives a shit?

You're willing to go to jail for potentially using the wrong pronoun to describe a person? Canada passed a law for this. It's a hate crime if you fuck up someone's gender now over there lol.

Sorry, but if that means i have to vote for a conservative prick to avoid something like this than so be it.

Not speaking a gender neutral language, breh.

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I dont feel very strongly about it but there needs to be some line where you say "no" cause you can't please everyone either way.

[close]

[injurai]

They did say to never mention GAF or Lore. It might be stupid but that was one of their mission statements, including leaving GAF shit in the apst. So it's on you

They mention gaf in other threads.

We'll see what happens.

you're lucky i haven't been approved yet.

i'd so be ready with a "isn't this a bannable offense?" 

Kiss ass at that point. You'd be trying to bait an entire forum into continuing down the old path.

You think i care? i don't like those mods, i don't like most of the gaf user base. for whatever sick reason people seem to think evillore was the biggest culprit of that culture but he wasn't, it was the mods he chose and the people that were allowed to facilitate the echochamber.


Well someone did one better

I know moderation is taking transparency around bans seriously and want to handle how they hand out/deal with bans much better. I also want it to be in a position where we can discuss people's bans and question their validitity... However

You were probably banned because that was a prime example of a red herring. And you consistently used Social Studies Warrior as a pjorative term/hand waived people's concerns. There's no reason why people cannot present their concerns. You may not agree with them, but it's not our place to say "Ughhh why don't you just shut up, you whiny little *#$@es" which is kind of how your post there came off.

Evilore and the mods were two different problems on gaf that shared overlap in their complicit guilts. Still it'd be a shame if one of the bore starts dog whistling Cindy just for shits and giggles, because you know people on resetera will answer the call with no thought at all.

I want to see how far she can get in getting some of those fucks to eat crow.

[Jerry]

Messofanego came to a BritGAF meet once.

I don't think he said a single word to anyone, was clearly uncomfortable around normal people and normal conversations, and never really posted in the thread again.

[Himu]

I don't care how many of a certain group there are, if I can adjust my language to not piss off people, it doesn't take any effort. Sure I'll be happy to. It's not tough.

(Image removed from quote.)

[jorma]

http://twitter.com/messofanego/status/923605392281735168

https://www.resetera.com/threads/thor-ragnaroks-relevance-to-resetera-spoilers.1303/

Culturally appropriating my norse heritage to make some emo comparison to the new forum feels like such a slap in the face to my entire culture to be honest.

[Assimilate]

Evilore and the mods were two different problems on gaf that shared overlap in their complicit guilts. Still it'd be a shame if one of the bore starts dog whistling Cindy just for shits and giggles, because you know people on resetera will answer the call with no thought at all.

I want to see how far she can get in getting some of those fucks to eat crow.

If you know that's the userbase what exactly is the goal of posting there? That's where i'm a bit confused. No one will eat crow there, you'll get banned too quick. It's not going to be that different. Most of them share this ideology, and going up against it isn't going to do anything but get ya banned.

GAF was dogmatic.

[Tektonic]

I'm glad to see aztechnology is such a magnanimous poster. must suppress virtue.
 

[Broseidon]

Messofanego came to a BritGAF meet once.

I don't think he said a single word to anyone, was clearly uncomfortable around normal people and normal conversations, and never really posted in the thread again.

[injurai]

Evilore and the mods were two different problems on gaf that shared overlap in their complicit guilts. Still it'd be a shame if one of the bore starts dog whistling Cindy just for shits and giggles, because you know people on resetera will answer the call with no thought at all.

I want to see how far she can get in getting some of those fucks to eat crow.

If you know that's the userbase what exactly is the goal of posting there? That's where i'm a bit confused. No one will eat crow there, you'll get banned too quick. It's not going to be that different. Most of them share this ideology, and going up against it isn't going to do anything but get ya banned.

GAF was dogmatic.

Some of those mods might have a different opinion that starts to get reflected, I kinda want to see how far this reset can truly go. If you throw up the bat signal then you just know people are going to take off their thinking caps.

[benjipwns]

i appreciate people offering codes/accounts and shit but i think the people there who would know me really don't want me around by plurality

i was only posting on gaf the last few years through following links from here and then sometimes popping into the OT from there to take a glance, and yet i still somehow became a notorious seriously messed up person of a troll running an elaborate "troll game" because i only posted when i felt i had something to add (often consistently perpendicular to the place because why post to agree?) rather than get off on seeing posts on the internet with my avatar next to them

and as i've mentioned before, i've racked up almost as many posts here in the last four-ish years as i had on gaf in ten and i've successfully conned (or bribed) people here into liking me

it's way more sane to be like disney's statler and waldorf in this dumpster thread

spoiler (click to show/hide)

plus i imagine they'd have to take away the report post function considering i've already seen ~20 posters, just from the ten threads or so i've looked at, who would wear it out anytime i posted

[close]

[Himu]

Apparently Bish was Cboat.

[Nuitangg]

Got approved for Reset and since there's still many question marks about it from people who are scared of being banned for wrong think I have made this post for the team.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/the-thread-for-site-questions-that-dont-need-their-own-thread.903/page-7#post-80962

That first reply to your post. 

[injurai]

Apparently Bish was Cboat.

 

had alts

always had to be right

alt right confirmed

[EightBitNate]

Apparently Bish was Cboat.

What? Proof?

[Billy Big Bollocks]

I don't think I've been inclined to browse gaf unless some links to it for like three hours now.

[Nuitangg]

Cboat used a gaffer as source and accidentally outed him.

[Tektonic]

warning! warning!
 

oh and your content deleted/censored. awesome!

[benjipwns]

The user was warned for this post. https://www.resetera.com/threads/a-word-about-neogaf.290/

Last edited by a moderator: 3 minutes ago

i didn't even get a chance to read it

[benjipwns]

Is there a way to hide images and avatars on here that I'm missing? Been looking all over the preferences, but couldn't find anything. Very useful when browsing at work lol.

No way to do that right now.

[railGUN]

NeoGAF, literally engulfed in an inferno, and Tyler, re: Off-Topic is basically "hold my beer".

 

Dude, you're so fucking transparent I'd swear your parents were jelly fish.

[Himu]

The user was warned for this post. https://www.resetera.com/threads/a-word-about-neogaf.290/

Last edited by a moderator: 3 minutes ago

i didn't even get a chance to read it

Full post:

I have some concerns with Reset.Please read this post with an open mind and I will try to be respectful.

I signed up because not only the fact I see potential in the site, but also the fact that I have concerns and don't know any other way to express them besides signing up and asking so I can get my answers straight from the horses mouth.

One of the biggest concerns with the site is that in many aspects it's a new GAF. That alone carries itself a certain type of baggage. While this isn't GAF in itself as it's a totally new site, it's still very much a site ran by former Gaffers. One big issue with Gaf was how the staff treated matters. By the end of its life, Neogaf had a very toxic environment lacking transparency. My perma ban for example is a ban many have contested as not being worthy not only of a permanent ban, but even a warning as all I did was express my opinion, albeit in my own way, without calling anyone any names. You can read it here. It felt like mods banned first, asked questions later and it forced and environment where users were constantly tip toeing on egg shells, never sure what would truly be ban worthy. For example, in one instance shortly prior to my perma ban, Massive Duck accused me of not being black. It ended up in a discussion that was very heated, but I was the only one banned because I called someone an idiota while Massive Duck was spared. It felt like certain posters were protected for God knows what reason and certain posters weren't - again, for whatever God knows beyond suggesting that policies of the staff were inconsistent at best.

In another example, I previously protected by staff - I do not know why - and in - again - a heated, albeit respectful, discussion about race Kinitari was banned just because he disagreed while I was spared. No one in that discussion was really worth banning, but that was a turning point where I realized that people were being banned not because they did an offense, but because the mod that banned them happened to disagree with their stance.

I shouldn't have to articulate how toxic an environment that is in a forum that promises to be about breeding discussion among e-friends.

Given that the staff are many prominent posters from Gaf that certainly posted in many hot threads on that site, I find it very concerned whether or not Reset is headed in a very similar area where the only way that goes is what the staff deems good, even if what's good isn't clearly explained.

I hope that the Reset staff are open to fostering an environment where people can actually talk about things and aren't banned just because of the way they think. That was one of the major undoings of Neogaf. One you start banning people for daring to mention that one of its most prominent members (Amirox) was now in jail for child pornography or that EviLore had gotten into a shower, naked, uninvited while standing on a platform of moral superiority, all bets are off and there's no reason to respect the staff, because they clearly don't respect themselves.

I pray that my post was presented in the cleanest, most respectful manner possible. I am far too used to being banned for being me and it worries me that I even have to preface this with,"please don't ban me."

Thank you for reading.

[Himu]

I mean...



His response was far more reasonable and impartial than most neogaf moderation I've ever seen.

A far cry from the days where BuddyC banned you because you bumped a week old thread and didn't tell you why this was a bad thing.

At least they give you reasons. At least it was in some form a discussion. It wasn't an instant "die filth" like at gaf. I'm cool with that.

[Unbounded]

Messofanego came to a BritGAF meet once.

I don't think he said a single word to anyone, was clearly uncomfortable around normal people and normal conversations, and never really posted in the thread again.

This explains way more than it should.

[Pills Here]

Apparently Bish was Cboat.

Wouldn't surprise me after his Xbox community blanket banning 

[injurai]

I mean...



His response was far more reasonable and impartial than most neogaf moderation I've ever seen.

A far cry from the days where BuddyC banned you because you bumped a week old thread and didn't tell you why this was a bad thing.

At least they give you reasons. At least it was in some form a discussion. It wasn't an instant "die filth" like at gaf. I'm cool with that.

Regardless, eggshells all over that page.

[Tektonic]

I mean...



His response was far more reasonable and impartial than most neogaf moderation I've ever seen.

A far cry from the days where BuddyC banned you because you bumped a week old thread and didn't tell you why this was a bad thing.

At least they give you reasons. At least it was in some form a discussion. It wasn't an instant "die filth" like at gaf. I'm cool with that.

and then deleted the real content of your post. control the flow of information, control the message, control!*

* ok, i'm getting a bit paranoid - i'm watching ahs cult

[Billy Big Bollocks]

I mean...



His response was far more reasonable and impartial than most neogaf moderation I've ever seen.

A far cry from the days where BuddyC banned you because you bumped a week old thread and didn't tell you why this was a bad thing.

At least they give you reasons. At least it was in some form a discussion. It wasn't an instant "die filth" like at gaf. I'm cool with that.

yeah I never saw any mod on there invite anyone to slide into their private messages 

[Assimilate]

I mean...



His response was far more reasonable and impartial than most neogaf moderation I've ever seen.

A far cry from the days where BuddyC banned you because you bumped a week old thread and didn't tell you why this was a bad thing.

At least they give you reasons. At least it was in some form a discussion. It wasn't an instant "die filth" like at gaf. I'm cool with that.

You really want to BELIEVE don't you?

[Nintex]

The user was warned for this post. https://www.resetera.com/threads/a-word-about-neogaf.290/

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i didn't even get a chance to read it

Full post:

I have some concerns with Reset.Please read this post with an open mind and I will try to be respectful.

I signed up because not only the fact I see potential in the site, but also the fact that I have concerns and don't know any other way to express them besides signing up and asking so I can get my answers straight from the horses mouth.

One of the biggest concerns with the site is that in many aspects it's a new GAF. That alone carries itself a certain type of baggage. While this isn't GAF in itself as it's a totally new site, it's still very much a site ran by former Gaffers. One big issue with Gaf was how the staff treated matters. By the end of its life, Neogaf had a very toxic environment lacking transparency. My perma ban for example is a ban many have contested as not being worthy not only of a permanent ban, but even a warning as all I did was express my opinion, albeit in my own way, without calling anyone any names. You can read it here. It felt like mods banned first, asked questions later and it forced and environment where users were constantly tip toeing on egg shells, never sure what would truly be ban worthy. For example, in one instance shortly prior to my perma ban, Massive Duck accused me of not being black. It ended up in a discussion that was very heated, but I was the only one banned because I called someone an idiota while Massive Duck was spared. It felt like certain posters were protected for God knows what reason and certain posters weren't - again, for whatever God knows beyond suggesting that policies of the staff were inconsistent at best.

In another example, I previously protected by staff - I do not know why - and in - again - a heated, albeit respectful, discussion about race Kinitari was banned just because he disagreed while I was spared. No one in that discussion was really worth banning, but that was a turning point where I realized that people were being banned not because they did an offense, but because the mod that banned them happened to disagree with their stance.

I shouldn't have to articulate how toxic an environment that is in a forum that promises to be about breeding discussion among e-friends.

Given that the staff are many prominent posters from Gaf that certainly posted in many hot threads on that site, I find it very concerned whether or not Reset is headed in a very similar area where the only way that goes is what the staff deems good, even if what's good isn't clearly explained.

I hope that the Reset staff are open to fostering an environment where people can actually talk about things and aren't banned just because of the way they think. That was one of the major undoings of Neogaf. One you start banning people for daring to mention that one of its most prominent members (Amirox) was now in jail for child pornography or that EviLore had gotten into a shower, naked, uninvited while standing on a platform of moral superiority, all bets are off and there's no reason to respect the staff, because they clearly don't respect themselves.

I pray that my post was presented in the cleanest, most respectful manner possible. I am far too used to being banned for being me and it worries me that I even have to preface this with,"please don't ban me."

Thank you for reading.

So uh, they warned you and deleted this.

For the sake of transparency was there a reason stated? 

[Himu]

I mean...



His response was far more reasonable and impartial than most neogaf moderation I've ever seen.

A far cry from the days where BuddyC banned you because you bumped a week old thread and didn't tell you why this was a bad thing.

At least they give you reasons. At least it was in some form a discussion. It wasn't an instant "die filth" like at gaf. I'm cool with that.

You really want to BELIEVE don't you?

I mean, I sent him a pm telling him that the policy is fair that they don't want baggage but that it's pretty unreasonable to expect this from their users less than a week after the fact, especially given that it was on the Bombcast and other major gaming publications. Are they not allowed to mention the Bombcast now? That's when I start to have a problem, and that's what I need clarification on. We're talking privately now.

[benjipwns]

they aren't going to be nonsense banning people before their first weekend if they can help it

[ModernBoxes]

Full post:

I have some concerns with Reset.Please read this post with an open mind and I will try to be respectful.

I signed up because not only the fact I see potential in the site, but also the fact that I have concerns and don't know any other way to express them besides signing up and asking so I can get my answers straight from the horses mouth.

One of the biggest concerns with the site is that in many aspects it's a new GAF. That alone carries itself a certain type of baggage. While this isn't GAF in itself as it's a totally new site, it's still very much a site ran by former Gaffers. One big issue with Gaf was how the staff treated matters. By the end of its life, Neogaf had a very toxic environment lacking transparency. My perma ban for example is a ban many have contested as not being worthy not only of a permanent ban, but even a warning as all I did was express my opinion, albeit in my own way, without calling anyone any names. You can read it here. It felt like mods banned first, asked questions later and it forced and environment where users were constantly tip toeing on egg shells, never sure what would truly be ban worthy. For example, in one instance shortly prior to my perma ban, Massive Duck accused me of not being black. It ended up in a discussion that was very heated, but I was the only one banned because I called someone an idiota while Massive Duck was spared. It felt like certain posters were protected for God knows what reason and certain posters weren't - again, for whatever God knows beyond suggesting that policies of the staff were inconsistent at best.

In another example, I previously protected by staff - I do not know why - and in - again - a heated, albeit respectful, discussion about race Kinitari was banned just because he disagreed while I was spared. No one in that discussion was really worth banning, but that was a turning point where I realized that people were being banned not because they did an offense, but because the mod that banned them happened to disagree with their stance.

I shouldn't have to articulate how toxic an environment that is in a forum that promises to be about breeding discussion among e-friends.

Given that the staff are many prominent posters from Gaf that certainly posted in many hot threads on that site, I find it very concerned whether or not Reset is headed in a very similar area where the only way that goes is what the staff deems good, even if what's good isn't clearly explained.

I hope that the Reset staff are open to fostering an environment where people can actually talk about things and aren't banned just because of the way they think. That was one of the major undoings of Neogaf. One you start banning people for daring to mention that one of its most prominent members (Amirox) was now in jail for child pornography or that EviLore had gotten into a shower, naked, uninvited while standing on a platform of moral superiority, all bets are off and there's no reason to respect the staff, because they clearly don't respect themselves.

I pray that my post was presented in the cleanest, most respectful manner possible. I am far too used to being banned for being me and it worries me that I even have to preface this with,"please don't ban me."

Thank you for reading.

Your GAF post that got you perma banned was pretty good. I remember the good old days when you could only get banned by specifically attacking people ad hominem, and opinions were things to be discussed not considered banworthy. What the fuck happened?

[MMaRsu]

I have to warm up, just wait breh

I give you dink smallwood and this is what you give? The fuck, Marsu.

You gave me dink smallwood and dink smallwood took my free time

[I'm a Puppy!]

Better a leech that knows its a leech than a leech that thinks they're the paragon of virtue.

[Great Rumbler]

https://twitter.com/messofanego/status/923405349322866688

 

wow troubling thankfully someone on twitter lept to my defense

https://twitter.com/benjipwns/status/923657829243899904

Breh...I just want you to know, we're here for you.

[gfm793]

Your GAF post that got you perma banned was pretty good. I remember the good old days when you could only get banned by specifically attacking people ad hominem, and opinions were things to be discussed not considered banworthy. What the fuck happened?

3 guesses, rhymes with wishop

[Tektonic]

to really test resetera... dennis sign up, and post this: Cue Ameri-ERA lecturing Europe on morality.

 

[Assimilate]

Cboat used a gaffer as source and accidentally outed him.

where is this happening?

it's fucking crazy how many people would talk about Gaf utterly destroying the Xbox narrative and the whole "we don't do conspiracies" and the entire time this fucking Bish fuck was banning xbox community members left and right.

Where is that fuck now?

[anime tits]

30)

lmao

[Pills Here]

Resetera is just kinda... boring? It just settled into GAF-lite very quickly. Amusingly, GAF is more exciting because it seems so unpredictable now.

[Nintex]

Resetera is just kinda... boring? It just settled into GAF-lite very quickly. Amusingly, GAF is more exciting because it seems so unpredictable now.

All the different communities flowed there but from what I'm seeing they're mostly sticking to their own OT's, communities and bubbles.

Which is why I'm still on the fence about joining.

[gfm793]

Wow, resetera may be a real change from GAF, in a thread about Yooka-Laylee vs A Hat in Time most of the thread is discussing the games with only a few short mentions of the controversy. Amazing.

[benjipwns]

But benji can't be left unchecked.

Next time Demi has a donation drive I’ll ask him what it’ll take to have benji banned.

Steve, did you ever actually ban me except for that time I asked for it?

no hard feelings, just curious

[Nuitangg]

Cboat used a gaffer as source and accidentally outed him.

where is this happening?

it's fucking crazy how many people would talk about Gaf utterly destroying the Xbox narrative and the whole "we don't do conspiracies" and the entire time this fucking Bish fuck was banning xbox community members left and right.

Where is that fuck now?

This happened a couple of years ago.  Cboat started posting shit that wasn't accurate and SonyGaf claimed the account was compromised by Microsoft.