Maybe the real NeoGAF was the friends we made along the way...

[Novid]

Either California State Government knows theres a cure for HIV down the road in 2 to 5 years or they trying to milk everybody for Medicare.

[team filler]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1455195

If you were gaf's owner whats your next move?

This is the scenario:

-Users are leaving the site in droves, so time is critical.
-Content creators are nowhere to be seen.
-You have a limited staff.

+You have years of content in your database.
+You have better name recognition.
+You have more bank.


Please refrain from predictable responses as "kill myself", etc. Also refrain from memes such as "she's bi", "shower this, shower that", etc.

This thread is to gather ideas and to help gaf move forward.

Please discuss.

I think Evilore is playing 4 dimensional chess.

Every move he has made so far is calculated. Site went back online the same day he promised, removed politics to restore moderate discussion instead of being a dogpile central, and now off topic is back.

I think his next big move could be dropping a huge industry leak. How would other websites respond if Neogaf became the first source for a next generation console? They wouldn't be able to avoid it.

JordanN has to be a troll.

Here's how Bernie Evilore can still win!

[VomKriege]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=252887217&postcount=26

People say sell it.
But how about invest in it? We lost content creators..how about paid for content creators? This would bring in new members and over time will improve.

That's not a forum.

[Assimilate]

Either California State Government knows theres a cure for HIV down the road in 2 to 5 years or they trying to milk everybody for Medicare.

I'm curious to see the reasoning behind it being a good thing from an actual member of the gay community. Still waiting on his reply.

[seagrams hotsauce]

I legitimately don't know what's crazier itt; the dude who thinks Zoe Quinn is literally engineering MK ULTRA part II, or the dude saying Ta-Nahisi Coates is the black Richard Spencer while donning a fucking Miles Davis avatar

[Novid]

you know I could talk to evil lore and let me do some work on getting a new name, new forum, new mods but he and the old mods got to leave and no game journos mucking about. Gaf is done either way.

[VomKriege]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=252887217&postcount=26

People say sell it.
But how about invest in it? We lost content creators..how about paid for content creators? This would bring in new members and over time will improve.

That's not a forum.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=252887254&postcount=29

Also a good idea. Like I suggested, let big studios make their own OTs, complete with actual game assets etc. Users still post review threads/discussion, but OTS could be paid by them.

Not a forum either.

[OpinionatedCyborg]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1455195

If you were gaf's owner whats your next move?

This is the scenario:

-Users are leaving the site in droves, so time is critical.
-Content creators are nowhere to be seen.
-You have a limited staff.

+You have years of content in your database.
+You have better name recognition.
+You have more bank.


Please refrain from predictable responses as "kill myself", etc. Also refrain from memes such as "she's bi", "shower this, shower that", etc.

This thread is to gather ideas and to help gaf move forward.

Please discuss.

I think Evilore is playing 4 dimensional chess.

Every move he has made so far is calculated. Site went back online the same day he promised, removed politics to restore moderate discussion instead of being a dogpile central, and now off topic is back.

I think his next big move could be dropping a huge industry leak. How would other websites respond if Neogaf became the first source for a next generation console? They wouldn't be able to avoid it.

JordanN has to be a troll.

[M]

Everything about what they have done with ResetEra is impressive. To get it up and running in like 4 days and get 9000 people registered within 24 hours without going down is pretty amazing. Gaf is definitely done.

[demi]

These suggestions are assuming we are back in 2006, rofl. Sorry, all avenues are now closed.

[cityhunter]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=252887217&postcount=26

People say sell it.
But how about invest in it? We lost content creators..how about paid for content creators? This would bring in new members and over time will improve.

That's not a forum.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=252887254&postcount=29

Also a good idea. Like I suggested, let big studios make their own OTs, complete with actual game assets etc. Users still post review threads/discussion, but OTS could be paid by them.

Not a forum either.

What's the difference from before?

[injurai]

Knowingly transmitting hiv seems fine if the recipient is aware and consenting to the fact. Making it an out right felony does have a roundabout way of discriminating against the gay community which for some reason has a higher than average rate of hiv.

But if there is no consent clause, then that law is premature and seriously fucked up. If you aren't aware your partner has hiv, then yeah they should be a felon.

[benjipwns]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=252887217&postcount=26

People say sell it.
But how about invest in it? We lost content creators..how about paid for content creators? This would bring in new members and over time will improve.

That's not a forum.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=252887254&postcount=29

Also a good idea. Like I suggested, let big studios make their own OTs, complete with actual game assets etc. Users still post review threads/discussion, but OTS could be paid by them.

Not a forum either.

"What's the difference from before?" - cityhunter, 2017

edit: dammit, changed which one he quoted! the wily bastard!

[Novid]

I legitimately don't know what's crazier itt; the dude who thinks Zoe Quinn is literally engineering MK ULTRA part II, or the dude saying Ta-Nahisi Coates is the black Richard Spencer while donning a fucking Miles Davis avatar

No, i didnt say that, I said that miss Quinn and Sark are CIA in as Gloria Stinum scratch my back i scratch yours CIA deal. The "GG" thing was a PsyOp from helldump and other sources that MIGHT had some influence from Tor (funded by DoD and Navy Cyber Command), they didnt become accets until much later (when everybody and their momma in Journalism started "GameDropping")

[Assimilate]

Knowingly transmitting hiv seems fine if the recipient is aware and consenting to the fact. Making it an out right felony does have a roundabout way of discriminating against the gay community which for some reason has a higher than average rate of hiv.

it was against the law to knowingly transmit HIV even if the other party knew? I don't think that was the case, was it?

And the reason HIV spread in the gay community is because of butt sex. It's easier to contract HIV that way.

[Trurl]

If I were Tyler I would lift all bans and just let it be a glorious train wreck

[Rusty Shackleford]

I legitimately don't know what's crazier itt; the dude who thinks Zoe Quinn is literally engineering MK ULTRA part II, or the dude saying Ta-Nahisi Coates is the black Richard Spencer while donning a fucking Miles Davis avatar

Now, now, let's not be too hasty. We could mold Novid in the shape of Martin Raperman, who - I think we can all agree - has been a deeply missed voice in these troubled times.

[benjipwns]

No, i didnt say that, I said that miss Quinn and Sark are CIA in as Gloria Stinum scratch my back i scratch yours CIA deal. The "GG" thing was a PsyOp from helldump and other sources that MIGHT had some influence from Tor (funded by DoD and Navy Cyber Command), they didnt become accets until much later (when everybody and their momma in Journalism started "GameDropping")

ah i see, uh huh, but then what about, oh i see you addressed that

[Rusty Shackleford]

No, i didnt say that, I said that miss Quinn and Sark are CIA in as Gloria Stinum scratch my back i scratch yours CIA deal. The "GG" thing was a PsyOp from helldump and other sources that MIGHT had some influence from Tor (funded by DoD and Navy Cyber Command), they didnt become accets until much later (when everybody and their momma in Journalism started "GameDropping")

ah i see, uh huh, but then what about, oh i see you addressed that

Legit laughing

[Novid]

Everything about what they have done with ResetEra is impressive. To get it up and running in like 4 days and get 9000 people registered within 24 hours without going down is pretty amazing. Gaf is definitely done.

lets be honest here...you really think they built this all by themselves?
Dude, The editors of the game journals gave him the money.
Come on.
Its TOO NICELY BUILT.
There some helldump/tor people around mucking about over there too.

[injurai]

Everything about what they have done with ResetEra is impressive. To get it up and running in like 4 days and get 9000 people registered within 24 hours without going down is pretty amazing. Gaf is definitely done.

lets be honest here...you really think they built this all by themselves?
Dude, The editors of the game journals gave him the money.
Come on.
Its TOO NICELY BUILT.
There some helldump/tor people around mucking about over there too.

K... but it was always slated as a community effort. So what people threw resources behind? So what if people have professional skills to throw at it?

It did a lot of right things to launch, now it needs to figure out how it grows and how it prevents the inmates from running the asylum.

[Novid]

Vidya game publishers being in charge of game OTs

and yall call me the conspiracy theorist

[team filler]

I legitimately don't know what's crazier itt; the dude who thinks Zoe Quinn is literally engineering MK ULTRA part II, or the dude saying Ta-Nahisi Coates is the black Richard Spencer while donning a fucking Miles Davis avatar

No, i didnt say that, I said that miss Quinn and Sark are CIA in as Gloria Stinum scratch my back i scratch yours CIA deal. The "GG" thing was a PsyOp from helldump and other sources that MIGHT had some influence from Tor (funded by DoD and Navy Cyber Command), they didnt become accets until much later (when everybody and their momma in Journalism started "GameDropping")

Please make a thread expounding on this along with any other critical knowledge you've acquired.

[Novid]

Everything about what they have done with ResetEra is impressive. To get it up and running in like 4 days and get 9000 people registered within 24 hours without going down is pretty amazing. Gaf is definitely done.

lets be honest here...you really think they built this all by themselves?
Dude, The editors of the game journals gave him the money.
Come on.
Its TOO NICELY BUILT.
There some helldump/tor people around mucking about over there too.

K... but it was always slated as a community effort. So what people threw resources behind? So what if people have professional skills to throw at it?

It did a lot of right things to launch, now it needs to figure out how it grows and how it prevents the inmates from running the asylum.

true but you know the same mods are still there at rentacenter mucking about, they didnt do nothing till #metoo started and the Tyler lost his James Bond Mojo with a Mayian meme "Honest and Consensual"

[Nuitangg]

Vidya game publishers being in charge of game OTs

It was suggested before by an Amazon employee.  Tyler no like.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=497097&highlight=

[ZephyrFate]

Knowingly transmitting hiv seems fine if the recipient is aware and consenting to the fact. Making it an out right felony does have a roundabout way of discriminating against the gay community which for some reason has a higher than average rate of hiv.

it was against the law to knowingly transmit HIV even if the other party knew? I don't think that was the case, was it?

And the reason HIV spread in the gay community is because of butt sex. It's easier to contract HIV that way.

this is quite reductive

HIV spreads quickly in the gay community, but it's actually pretty complicated:
1. It's fact that not all gay men have anal sex. It is easier to transmit STDs through anal sex, but not the only method. Sharing needles spreads HIV faster than sex
2. The stigma that continues to exist around the gay community prevents men from coming forward, getting tested, and protecting future partners
3. HIV is a weak virus, and is quite difficult to transmit anyway, even through an easy channel such as anal intercourse
4. Nearly all men who have HIV are on medicine regimens, from the poor to the rich, and California has insanely great resources for men who are HIV+, even with no money, to seek this medicine at low cost.
5. Men who are undetectable, through meds or otherwise (many gay male immune systems naturally repress the HIV virus enough for it to be impossible to transmit), cannot transmit the virus

... Therefore, the men who have it, and are transmitting it, are men who don't know they have it/haven't gotten tested due to stigma/etc.

Decriminalizing the act of transmitting HIV removes a whole host of stigma about the infection. It does not, as other idiots have surmised, encourage people to transmit it. There's a tiny subsection of the gay community (that's barely existent) who bug chase. Everyone else would rather not have to deal with the daily routine.

On top of that, PrEP is a drug that exists that is absolutely fantastic in curtailing the spread, thus reducing the need to criminalize those who have it. Most who have it never knew they did in the first place.

[Pills Here]

http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=252887515

 

[Novid]

The sad thing is if the mods were not such Sony hounds (I mean shit i love Goddess Noire too but she dont love her sis like we love her), Tyler would have just given Gaf to somebody else and rentacenter is nothing but a seed that never grew

[benjipwns]

Everything about what they have done with ResetEra is impressive. To get it up and running in like 4 days and get 9000 people registered within 24 hours without going down is pretty amazing. Gaf is definitely done.

lets be honest here...you really think they built this all by themselves?

Come on.
Its TOO NICELY BUILT.

No, it's not

I could just grab Andy and we could have put up something better probably the night after GAF went down and it would have gotten increasingly better over the week rather than not existing to the public.

Cerium paid for a bunch of crap because they didn't have anybody with the technical skill to do it by themselves in their initial group.

Their main skill was in the whole secretive discord thing to hold the communities together, they managed to keep thousands of people sitting on their hands on four days rather than going literally anywhere else except while they waited. And they even got a forum courting GAF users to tweet about how they were "backing off" in favor of it. And Shinobi got a cloying Polygon article written about three days before it went up.

[Bravotyler]

I'm late to this one, but there has definitely been at least one thread on GAF about whether it's transphobic to not have sex with trans people. That topic was what got Mumei demodded and Evilore revealed some of his less progressive views.

[Novid]

Knowingly transmitting hiv seems fine if the recipient is aware and consenting to the fact. Making it an out right felony does have a roundabout way of discriminating against the gay community which for some reason has a higher than average rate of hiv.

it was against the law to knowingly transmit HIV even if the other party knew? I don't think that was the case, was it?

And the reason HIV spread in the gay community is because of butt sex. It's easier to contract HIV that way.

this is quite reductionary

HIV spreads quickly in the gay community, but it's actually pretty complicated:
1. It's fact that not all gay men have anal sex. It is easier to transmit STDs through anal sex, but not the only method. Sharing needles spreads HIV faster than sex
2. The stigma that continues to exist around the gay community prevents men from coming forward, getting tested, and protecting future partners
3. HIV is a weak virus, and is quite difficult to transmit anyway, even through an easy channel such as anal intercourse
4. Nearly all men who have HIV are on medicine regimens, from the poor to the rich, and California has insanely great resources for men who are HIV+, even with no money, to seek this medicine at low cost.
5. Men who are undetectable, through meds or otherwise (many gay male immune systems naturally repress the HIV virus enough for it to be impossible to transmit), cannot transmit the virus

... Therefore, the men who have it, and are transmitting it, are men who don't know they have it/haven't gotten tested due to stigma/etc.

Decriminalizing the act of transmitting HIV removes a whole host of stigma about the infection. It does not, as other idiots have surmised, encourage people to transmit it. There's a tiny subsection of the gay community (that's barely existent) who bug chase. Everyone else would rather not have to deal with the daily routine.

On top of that, PrEP is a drug that exists that is absolutely fantastic in curtailing the spread, thus reducing the need to criminalize those who have it. Most who have it never knew they did in the first place.

all of this is true but motherfuckers in the hinterlands were an actual genocide is taking place via the opioid issues are fucking scared shitless what will happen if HIV spreads again like it did back in the 80's (when crack was a thing)

[Rusty Shackleford]

Everything about what they have done with ResetEra is impressive. To get it up and running in like 4 days and get 9000 people registered within 24 hours without going down is pretty amazing. Gaf is definitely done.

lets be honest here...you really think they built this all by themselves?

Come on.
Its TOO NICELY BUILT.

No, it's not

I could just grab Andy and we could have put up something better probably the night after GAF went down and it would have gotten increasingly better over the week rather than not existing to the public.

Cerium paid for a bunch of crap because they didn't have anybody with the technical skill to do it by themselves in their initial group.

Their main skill was in the whole secretive discord thing to hold the communities together, they managed to keep thousands of people sitting on their hands on four days rather than going literally anywhere else except while they waited. And they even got a forum courting GAF users to tweet about how they were "backing off" in favor of it. And Shinobi got a cloying Polygon article written about three days before it went up.

Yep. They realized the need to rush before someone else set up a pretender Provisional Government.

[Novid]

I'm late to this one, but there has definitely been at least one thread on GAF about whether it's transphobic to not have sex with trans people. That topic was what got Mumei demodded and Evilore revealed some of his less progressive views.

let me be a little more frank here.
why the fuck i should care if a dude wants a porn star transgender as a sex partner.
They aint killing him like a terf might.

[ZephyrFate]

Knowingly transmitting hiv seems fine if the recipient is aware and consenting to the fact. Making it an out right felony does have a roundabout way of discriminating against the gay community which for some reason has a higher than average rate of hiv.

it was against the law to knowingly transmit HIV even if the other party knew? I don't think that was the case, was it?

And the reason HIV spread in the gay community is because of butt sex. It's easier to contract HIV that way.

this is quite reductionary

HIV spreads quickly in the gay community, but it's actually pretty complicated:
1. It's fact that not all gay men have anal sex. It is easier to transmit STDs through anal sex, but not the only method. Sharing needles spreads HIV faster than sex
2. The stigma that continues to exist around the gay community prevents men from coming forward, getting tested, and protecting future partners
3. HIV is a weak virus, and is quite difficult to transmit anyway, even through an easy channel such as anal intercourse
4. Nearly all men who have HIV are on medicine regimens, from the poor to the rich, and California has insanely great resources for men who are HIV+, even with no money, to seek this medicine at low cost.
5. Men who are undetectable, through meds or otherwise (many gay male immune systems naturally repress the HIV virus enough for it to be impossible to transmit), cannot transmit the virus

... Therefore, the men who have it, and are transmitting it, are men who don't know they have it/haven't gotten tested due to stigma/etc.

Decriminalizing the act of transmitting HIV removes a whole host of stigma about the infection. It does not, as other idiots have surmised, encourage people to transmit it. There's a tiny subsection of the gay community (that's barely existent) who bug chase. Everyone else would rather not have to deal with the daily routine.

On top of that, PrEP is a drug that exists that is absolutely fantastic in curtailing the spread, thus reducing the need to criminalize those who have it. Most who have it never knew they did in the first place.

all of this is true but motherfuckers in the hinterlands were an actual genocide is taking place via the opioid issues are fucking scared shitless what will happen if HIV spreads again like it did back in the 80's (when crack was a thing)

Once the OTC version of PrEP is made available, I think we will have an answer if that were to occur.

[Novid]

Knowingly transmitting hiv seems fine if the recipient is aware and consenting to the fact. Making it an out right felony does have a roundabout way of discriminating against the gay community which for some reason has a higher than average rate of hiv.

it was against the law to knowingly transmit HIV even if the other party knew? I don't think that was the case, was it?

And the reason HIV spread in the gay community is because of butt sex. It's easier to contract HIV that way.

this is quite reductionary

HIV spreads quickly in the gay community, but it's actually pretty complicated:
1. It's fact that not all gay men have anal sex. It is easier to transmit STDs through anal sex, but not the only method. Sharing needles spreads HIV faster than sex
2. The stigma that continues to exist around the gay community prevents men from coming forward, getting tested, and protecting future partners
3. HIV is a weak virus, and is quite difficult to transmit anyway, even through an easy channel such as anal intercourse
4. Nearly all men who have HIV are on medicine regimens, from the poor to the rich, and California has insanely great resources for men who are HIV+, even with no money, to seek this medicine at low cost.
5. Men who are undetectable, through meds or otherwise (many gay male immune systems naturally repress the HIV virus enough for it to be impossible to transmit), cannot transmit the virus

... Therefore, the men who have it, and are transmitting it, are men who don't know they have it/haven't gotten tested due to stigma/etc.

Decriminalizing the act of transmitting HIV removes a whole host of stigma about the infection. It does not, as other idiots have surmised, encourage people to transmit it. There's a tiny subsection of the gay community (that's barely existent) who bug chase. Everyone else would rather not have to deal with the daily routine.

On top of that, PrEP is a drug that exists that is absolutely fantastic in curtailing the spread, thus reducing the need to criminalize those who have it. Most who have it never knew they did in the first place.

all of this is true but motherfuckers in the hinterlands were an actual genocide is taking place via the opioid issues are fucking scared shitless what will happen if HIV spreads again like it did back in the 80's (when crack was a thing)

Once the OTC version of PrEP is made available, I think we will have an answer if that were to occur.

And when will that take place and how much that gonna cost and will the medical industry even allow a fair price for it? We saw what happened to epi-pen. OTC Prep in one companies hands is gonna wreck some margins up business wise.

[zepblackstar]

I am coming around to the theory that resetera is almost too good as a startup forum.. way too many game sites people singing its praise and joining in a bit too fast.

Plus the speed it went up as soon as the tyler story got out....

[injurai]

I'm late to this one, but there has definitely been at least one thread on GAF about whether it's transphobic to not have sex with trans people. That topic was what got Mumei demodded and Evilore revealed some of his less progressive views.

Less progressive? As in less progressive then people can be free with their sexuality?

[ZephyrFate]

It just left medical trials and is being worked on by the FDA. I'd say 2-5 years tops. Even if OTC is down in low three-digit cost with no insurance, that's a huge upswing from something like the thousands of dollars it is now. It is also subsidized to $0.00 by Medicare in every state with extensive coverage at the moment anyway.

It's also a seasonal drug. It doesn't need to be a drug someone is shackled to, which makes it good for those who find themselves less promiscuous or are no longer having issues with shared needles, etc.

[Bravotyler]

Less progressive? As in less progressive then people can be free with their sexuality?

He said you shouldn't be labeled transphobic for it, Mumei said you should, they argued for a bit, Mumei got demodded by the end of it. I want to say this was like 2 years ago.

[benjipwns]

I am coming around to the theory that resetera is almost too good as a startup forum.. way too many game sites people singing its praise and joining in a bit too fast.

Plus the speed it went up as soon as the tyler story got out....

Shinobi, Nibel and some others were all dudes who had "connections" on twitter (which they used for GAF posts) they pulled on strings:



The "speed" was literally the weirdest thing about it. You could have put a forum up that night. Yet they kept putting it off because they were trying to wall off gamergators.

[Assimilate]

... Therefore, the men who have it, and are transmitting it, are men who don't know they have it/haven't gotten tested due to stigma/etc.

Decriminalizing the act of transmitting HIV removes a whole host of stigma about the infection.

I don't see how that follows. If they don't know they have it then they aren't willfully passing HIV to another person.

[Nervousxtian]

Getting a forum up off the ground isn't rocket science guys. 

There's no conspiracy here.   

[Assimilate]

Less progressive? As in less progressive then people can be free with their sexuality?

He said you shouldn't be labeled transphobic for it, Mumei said you should, they argued for a bit, Mumei got demodded by the end of it. I want to say this was like 2 years ago.

So you're saying not wanting to have sex with a transperson isn't progressive? 

[Novid]

It just left medical trials and is being worked on by the FDA. I'd say 2-5 years tops. Even if OTC is down in low three-digit cost with no insurance, that's a huge upswing from something like the thousands of dollars it is now. It is also subsidized to $0.00 by Medicare in every state with extensive coverage at the moment anyway.

It's also a seasonal drug. It doesn't need to be a drug someone is shackled to, which makes it good for those who find themselves less promiscuous or are no longer having issues with shared needles, etc.

This gonna be interesting. Could be a similar dog whistle issue the GOP use just like the birth control thing now, which is a shame. a few i know have the bug and one got it from a partner that knew and didnt tell.

[Bravotyler]

So you're saying not wanting to have sex with a transperson isn't progressive? 

I'm talking by the standards of GAF, absolutely. I should have been more clear about that.

[anime tits]

Yeah, i didnt pay too much attention around the time all the drama broke, but after a few minutes of looking, im wondering how that forum managed to blow up immediately.

Edit: nm, i see those gaffers who have an inexplicable amount of followers on twitter started it. I guess shinobi shared leaks, but i dont get how nibel has 32k followers lol

Seems like they are gonna eat gaf's lunch but i agree with an earlier post saying it's already boring and gaf is back to being the wild west but with like a bunch of stray pussies

[Jenkem]

etoliate needs to drop some Ls

[thisismyusername]

also: HIV is an extremely not deadly infection if you live in the US and cannot be transmitted by those who are undetectable (i.e, the majority of the population with HIV)

[injurai]

Less progressive? As in less progressive then people can be free with their sexuality?

He said you shouldn't be labeled transphobic for it, Mumei said you should, they argued for a bit, Mumei got demodded by the end of it. I want to say this was like 2 years ago.

Yeah, I was there. People were baiting bans on people that supported the trans community just because they themselves have their own sexuality. There were a handful of transphobes that got banned outright, the rest of the thread was people defending preference while the transfolks divided out into two frames of thought. The level headed onces concluded that identifying as a women means you want to be whole as a women, and people not seeing you as such means it's hard to find normality and hard to find a straight male partner that would provide that to you, but that men who made a distinction weren't inherently transphobic. Evilore sided with that side and the non-transphobic cis people. Thus Mumei got demodded. I only recall Evilore making a couple of posts way towards the end of the thread which was mostly just a conversation with Mumei. If she handn't doubled down nothing would have come of it.

Of course all further discussion on the matter was a bannable offense, so Evilore none the less put his trademark on it.

[Nervousxtian]

Yeah, i didnt pay too much attention around the time all the drama broke, but after a few minutes of looking, im wondering how that forum managed to blow up immediately.

Gaf was a forum of followers.    Metaphorical lemmings who just did whatever made them feel like they could fit in.   

It's not surprising at all when you remember the makeup of gaf.   

These are same fucks who worshipped Bishoptl.

 

[benjipwns]

Yeah, i didnt pay too much attention around the time all the drama broke, but after a few minutes of looking, im wondering how that forum managed to blow up immediately.

It didn't though, they spent nearly a week organizing it as an EXCLUSIVE CLUB and thousands of GAFfers said "yeah alright, I'll wait to post there" because they're addicted to the "community" they constantly want to cast people/groups out of.

[ZephyrFate]

also: HIV is an extremely not deadly infection if you live in the US and cannot be transmitted by those who are undetectable (i.e, the majority of the population with HIV)

already did.

[EightBitNate]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/the-use-of-guys-as-a-gender-neutral-catch-all-while-speaking-in-party-chat.1360/

I really hope I don’t ever meet any of these guys in real life. I’ve never met people who think like this, or at least no ones ever been outward about having such strange views.

[I'm a Puppy!]

Do you remember when a games OT was just a sentence like "I am looking forward to this game" and not a marketing extravaganza?

The bore remembers

[Assimilate]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/the-use-of-guys-as-a-gender-neutral-catch-all-while-speaking-in-party-chat.1360/

I really hope I don’t ever meet any of these guys in real life. I’ve never met people who think like this, or at least no ones ever been outward about having such strange views.

i get the desire to stay gender neutral when speaking online or while playing games or whatever. Afterall, there's more females now engaging in forum discussions, and playing games than ever before. I get it.

What i can't stand is when this mentality bleeds over IRL. People start sayign they see themselves as "non-binary" and shit. Like, uh, ok, you've spent way too much time in the online world.

[injurai]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/the-use-of-guys-as-a-gender-neutral-catch-all-while-speaking-in-party-chat.1360/

I really hope I don’t ever meet any of these guys in real life. I’ve never met people who think like this, or at least no ones ever been outward about having such strange views.

Girl used to refer to a child, and gay used to qualify a female child. Things change. Honestly I think the people fighting to control language have always been winning through history. Sometimes for the better, not always.

Also that thread was literally on GAF a few weeks back with almost identical responses.

[ZephyrFate]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/the-use-of-guys-as-a-gender-neutral-catch-all-while-speaking-in-party-chat.1360/

I really hope I don’t ever meet any of these guys in real life. I’ve never met people who think like this, or at least no ones ever been outward about having such strange views.

it's not nearly as strange or as big of a deal as you are making it out to be

[thehunter116]

Yeah, i didnt pay too much attention around the time all the drama broke, but after a few minutes of looking, im wondering how that forum managed to blow up immediately.

Gaf was a forum of followers.    Metaphorical lemmings who just did whatever made them feel like they could fit in.   

It's not surprising at all when you remember the makeup of gaf.   

These are same fucks who worshipped Bishoptl.

 

Good communities too.

Needs me muh NHL talk.

[porkbun]

Messofanego came to a BritGAF meet once.

I don't think he said a single word to anyone, was clearly uncomfortable around normal people and normal conversations, and never really posted in the thread again.

The guy who has to have his dates "arranged" by his parents has zero social skills?

 

Wtf... link ?

I don't have a link offhand but he mentioned it a few times in the dating thread.  Most of the people in there had him on ignore because they were tired of getting condescending "advice" from someone who's never even been on a second date.

[thehunter116]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/the-use-of-guys-as-a-gender-neutral-catch-all-while-speaking-in-party-chat.1360/

I really hope I don’t ever meet any of these guys in real life. I’ve never met people who think like this, or at least no ones ever been outward about having such strange views.

As much as I dislike the word and connotation of "Feminazi" there are women who are really into the whole empowerment of women. It would makes sense there were other zealous champions of "righteous" causes.

Look, when I hold a door open for you I'm not being sexist. I'm just being kind.