Maybe the real NeoGAF was the friends we made along the way...

[John Dunbar]

So GAF is truly dead.  Kinda crazy seeing it.  I can't see it recovering since forums aren't really popping these days and ERA took the active userbase.

i see they've been moving threads from the community to off-topic. smells of desperation.

[Rich!]

So GAF is truly dead.  Kinda crazy seeing it.  I can't see it recovering since forums aren't really popping these days and ERA took the active userbase.

Yep, I just had a look at the active topics there and it hasn't changed in about three days. It's dead.

[EightBitNate]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/nintendo-shares-gender-and-age-breakdown-of-us-switch-buyers.2852/

Someone tell me; is it sexist to believe the "40% of console gamers are women" thing is bullshit? Basically everything I know about who plays games says otherwise. No female family members, only a few female friends (like maybe 3-4% of girls I went to school with) play games whereas like 95% of guys I know play video games.

I know it's just 1 anecdote, but I can't remember a time where I was this off. It's like waking up one day and being told men make up 40% of the makeup buying market. It's not something I've ever seen, but people just seem so certain of it.

[HardcoreRetro]

I don't even understand why you care. The percentages thrown on most of these studies are so broad and vague they don't mean anything anyways.

[EightBitNate]

I don't even understand why you care. The percentages thrown on most of these studies are so broad and vague they don't mean anything anyways.

Because I’m curious if it’s a narrative or if I have warped perception.

[Rufus]

Since it's coming from Nintendo themselves, what narrative would that be?

[Kurt Russell]

So GAF is truly dead.  Kinda crazy seeing it.  I can't see it recovering since forums aren't really popping these days and ERA took the active userbase.

Yep, I just had a look at the active topics there and it hasn't changed in about three days. It's dead.

It'll recover. Where else are folk going to go after they get banned from Reeeeeeeeeeset Era?

[EightBitNate]

Since it's coming from Nintendo themselves, what narrative would that be?

No you have it backwards. The Nintendo data supports what I thought was true. The posters in the thread are saying the data is surprising because they all believe the split was 60/40.

[VomKriege]

I don't even understand why you care. The percentages thrown on most of these studies are so broad and vague they don't mean anything anyways.

Because I’m curious if it’s a narrative or if I have warped perception.

You're right man. And now that you said it in public, they'll be coming to get you.

[Jenkem]

Happy Halloween!

[FStop7]

https://www.resetera.com/posts/243939/

I'm leaving this forum if all you do is single out one post to purposely make me look bad. When you make a response like this it actually DOES end up being about me. Please ban.

 

[Rman]

So GAF is truly dead.  Kinda crazy seeing it.  I can't see it recovering since forums aren't really popping these days and ERA took the active userbase.

Yep, I just had a look at the active topics there and it hasn't changed in about three days. It's dead.

ERA is still not GAF Prime fast.  I don't think it ever will be honestly. 

[Rman]

I guess I'm going by feel. GAF has slowed down too.  Dennis had a similar sentiment.

[Rufus]

Since it's coming from Nintendo themselves, what narrative would that be?

No you have it backwards. The Nintendo data supports what I thought was true. The posters in the thread are saying the data is surprising because they all believe the split was 60/40.

Oh, nevermind then.

[Raist]

ERA is still not GAF Prime fast.  I don't think it ever will be honestly.

And when do you think GAF was at it's prime for posts?

ERA is currently close to double the posts per hour as GAF was earlier this month.

4-5 years ago. GAF took a steady nosedive after that.

[etiolate]

That male/female split is greater than I expected. I wonder if the Wii had a larger female audience but that audience just moved into mobile.

[FStop7]

oh good, the fast food viral marketers have arrived.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/smashburger-smashpass-54-for-fifty-four-1-entries-over-54-days.2872/

[Eteric]

oh good, the fast food viral marketers have arrived.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/smashburger-smashpass-54-for-fifty-four-1-entries-over-54-days.2872/

I think it's that, and I think that the Switch hasn't gotten the titles that usually get female gamers on board. Switch doesn't have Animal Crossing, Pokemon, or anything like Nintendogs yet. Girls love Zelda, but not as much as the other two. They're also putting out what is pretty much a full on Animal Crossing on phones, though. That game is going to fucking SLAY.

Also, I think girls are less likely to pay $300 for a system. Girls will play video games, but they usually (there are exceptions) aren't enthusiasts. I can see a lot of them jumping on board when price drops happen.

[Boredfrom]

RE:Civil War

one side is dehumanizing or advocating the ending of human life and the other side is advocating the right to live and be free.

"The middle" is a wonderful - and entirely childish and unrealistic - thing to advocate for, and AS a well-informed, well-read adult who studied all this history, I reject it with every fiber of my being.

 I didn't know you could take the history  stance and still argue slavery was fought over ethical concern.

 Also lul:

and AS a well-informed, well-read adult who studied all this history, I reject it with every fiber of my being.

But, you see, the platform that they hinged their rule and governance upon - in both cases - is so equally and morally abhorrent as to negate any "nuance"

Here's the thing, the "middle ground" you champion doesn't exist

"They were so big and so bad that the 'middle-ground nuance' known as the real reason for the Civil War doesn't really matter." 

Somebody in that thread called "nuance" as way to hide evil. Sigh

[OathToOrder]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/nintendo-shares-gender-and-age-breakdown-of-us-switch-buyers.2852/

Someone tell me; is it sexist to believe the "40% of console gamers are women" thing is bullshit? Basically everything I know about who plays games says otherwise. No female family members, only a few female friends (like maybe 3-4% of girls I went to school with) play games whereas like 95% of guys I know play video games.

I know it's just 1 anecdote, but I can't remember a time where I was this off. It's like waking up one day and being told men make up 40% of the makeup buying market. It's not something I've ever seen, but people just seem so certain of it.

No man, it has always been bullshit, the "there are just as many females in gaming as there are males" narrative.

About your real life anecdote, no one on GAF/ERA would have a similar experience because they all get their social interactions online where numbers are skewed.

It's good to see demographic numbers from an actual hardware manufacturer instead of whatever bullshit Nirolak tries to pass off all time with mobile numbers shoehorned in.

[Eteric]

I wouldn't say it's never been true. It probably was on the Wii and DS. They came about before the age of phone games. They also had games like Brain Age, Nintendogs, Animal Crossing, etc, which appealed to females. Hell, Nintendo even had female celebrities pushing it in advertisements. I think these people moved on to the mobile market, honestly. It might be why Nintendo started making games on phones, so they could still serve that female audience. I wouldn't be shocked if the next series of mobile games included Nintendogs and the like.

[OathToOrder]

Wow, mobile bias is real

https://www.resetera.com/threads/nintendo-says-super-mario-run-has-yet-to-reach-acceptable-profit-point-nearly-1-year-after-launch.2845/#post-320828

Fuck mobile "gaming"

[StealthFan]

Mobile games are legitimate. Stay mad nicca

[Novid]

oh good, the fast food viral marketers have arrived.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/smashburger-smashpass-54-for-fifty-four-1-entries-over-54-days.2872/

They did it with the Chase Manhattan Card Thread on Gaf too

[Novid]

oh good, the fast food viral marketers have arrived.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/smashburger-smashpass-54-for-fifty-four-1-entries-over-54-days.2872/

I think it's that, and I think that the Switch hasn't gotten the titles that usually get female gamers on board. Switch doesn't have Animal Crossing, Pokemon, or anything like Nintendogs yet. Girls love Zelda, but not as much as the other two. They're also putting out what is pretty much a full on Animal Crossing on phones, though. That game is going to fucking SLAY.

Also, I think girls are less likely to pay $300 for a system. Girls will play video games, but they usually (there are exceptions) aren't enthusiasts. I can see a lot of them jumping on board when price drops happen.

So it is true that Senran Kagura does have a higher female game userbase ratio than most Western AAA games.
Also proves my point that "GG" was a psy op 

[OathToOrder]

Ah yes, boys will stop buying Switches once AC, Pokemon and Nintendogs will release and there will be NO boy-centric games released afterwards.

Keep dreaming but your utopia will remain a dream.

Also, calling me sexist is not an argument.

[remy]

Are you sure about that, man who terrifies family because he can't take a L at Tekken ?

this post is so legit. I think about this every time I see that guy post lmao

[I'm a Puppy!]

Mobile games are legitimate. Stay mad nicca

[gfm793]

With Trans people I understand them getting "safe spaces". In a few states it's a justified defense to murder someone if you sleep with them and find out they're trans.

Having somewhere that you don't have to deal with yucksters and callous statements is nice. We don't need safe spaces for everyone and thing though.

Ok, a little late on this, but I looked this up because it seemed unbelievable. And yeah, in no state in the union, unless I grossly missed something, is it not murder just because you slept with a trans person, and were not told they were trans. Now in some states the you can use trans panic as a defense, ala temporary insanity, but it has never resulted in an acquittal. Not once. It MIGHT get you a mistrial, and even in those cases the defendant pled out after the fact to at least 20+ years in prison. It's basically the last refuge of a shitty defense attorney with a client who is guilty as hell. It's not on the books, it's just not specifically outlawed.

I can't find evidence of the 'gay panic' defense being successful in recent memory either.

[Freaky Fred]

Ah yes, boys will stop buying Switches once AC, Pokemon and Nintendogs will release and there will be NO boy-centric games released afterwards.

Keep dreaming but your utopia will remain a dream.

Also, calling me sexist is not an argument.

[Forgotten A. Turnbuckle]

ERA is still not GAF Prime fast.  I don't think it ever will be honestly.

And when do you think GAF was at it's prime for posts?

ERA is currently close to double the posts per hour as GAF was earlier this month.

Feels like more posts, fewer threads.  I can't quite put my finger on it, but the off topic section on reset doesn't seem to cover as much news/topic as GAF from a few weeks ago.  And that was far from prime GAF.

[totally not a creep]

what the FUCK happened to gaf 

[totally not a creep]

man what a whirlwind catching up. 'lore dun goofed    resetera looks trash so i will definitely join up .

edit: paid email?

[Tasty]

http://neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=252945108&postcount=4

So they let a terrorist who has killed people survive even though hes brandishing a fake gun they thought was real but they kill our own citizens,who many times pose no threat to anyone.... RIP to the victims. This guy should have been shot down.

[VomKriege]

Only 8 replies for the thread about the attack in NY who happened a couple hours ago.
GAF is over for real.

[railGUN]

Here's an interesting tidbit:

I just checked 12 pages of OT (which was as far back as it would let me go). Control + F > trump (0 of 0)

Not a single thread with trump in the title across 12 pages of OT threads.   

[Pepinappe]

Eliminate internet anonymity.

Says person who is hiding behind an alias.

Also, I don't think that person would want his name known, considering he's a fucking psycho who gets out of control because of Tekken. 

[Coax]

Feels like more posts, fewer threads.  I can't quite put my finger on it, but the off topic section on reset doesn't seem to cover as much news/topic as GAF from a few weeks ago.  And that was far from prime GAF.

...But I'm also unsure what restrictions they have on new members;  if most people are "juniors", most people can't make threads.

Users who signed up during the open registration are juniors (despite the 'Member' tag), and need 200 posts/60 days before they obtain thread making privileges. Those who hopped on the bandwagon early for the first couple rounds of 'verified' approval however were granted full membership from the beginning.

That said it's still a large chuck who can make threads: around 8-10k members who got in early.

Here's an interesting tidbit:

I just checked 12 pages of OT (which was as far back as it would let me go). Control + F > trump (0 of 0)

Not a single thread with trump in the title across 12 pages of OT threads.   

Well yea, they outlawed 'political' topics.

[railGUN]

Only 8 replies for the thread about the attack in NY who happened a couple hours ago.
GAF is over for real.

And only 800 views.

Meanwhile, at Reset, 470 replies and 33,500 replies.

[Freaky Fred]

http://neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=252945108&postcount=4

So they let a terrorist who has killed people survive even though hes brandishing a fake gun they thought was real but they kill our own citizens,who many times pose no threat to anyone.... RIP to the victims. This guy should have been shot down.

GAF is better off dead than having 470 replies like this

[FStop7]

From that Ninteno demographics thread:



Maybe it's just me but do those under 18 numbers look kind of bleak for their future? 

[Jenkem]

From that Ninteno demographics thread:

(Image removed from quote.)

Maybe it's just me but do those under 18 numbers look kind of bleak for their future?

no? under 18 has no money compared to other age brackets and the switch hasn't even been out a year and hasn't even been in one holiday sales season.

[Tektonic]

From that Ninteno demographics thread:

(Image removed from quote.)

Maybe it's just me but do those under 18 numbers look kind of bleak for their future?

why would <18 buy a switch when they have their mobiles? also switch loved by neckbeards confirmed

[Averon]

I don't get why Tyler's is getting all these new mods for a dead site, assuming these aren't just empty positions he made. GAF activity is at a snail's pace. It doesn't warrant having nearly 20 mods. I guess he assumes GAF will bounce back to the point that it needs that many mods? But that assumes GAF will have similar levels of activity that it had before. I don't see that happening unless he opens the floodgates and lift the registration/junior member restrictions.

[Steve Contra]

I'm guessing he's trying to sell it.

[Tasty]

>18 has clearly been Nintendo's target since the reveal.

[Assimilate]

With Trans people I understand them getting "safe spaces". In a few states it's a justified defense to murder someone if you sleep with them and find out they're trans.

Having somewhere that you don't have to deal with yucksters and callous statements is nice. We don't need safe spaces for everyone and thing though.

Ok, a little late on this, but I looked this up because it seemed unbelievable. And yeah, in no state in the union, unless I grossly missed something, is it not murder just because you slept with a trans person, and were not told they were trans. Now in some states the you can use trans panic as a defense, ala temporary insanity, but it has never resulted in an acquittal. Not once. It MIGHT get you a mistrial, and even in those cases the defendant pled out after the fact to at least 20+ years in prison. It's basically the last refuge of a shitty defense attorney with a client who is guilty as hell. It's not on the books, it's just not specifically outlawed.

I can't find evidence of the 'gay panic' defense being successful in recent memory either.

Yeah i was going to double check this when i read it but got side tracked,  so thanks for bringing it up.

So it's not true? Are the people that pushed this going to verify this with some sources or what?

[Risible]

I don't get why Tyler's is getting all these new mods for a dead site, assuming these aren't just empty positions he made. GAF activity is at a snail's pace. It doesn't warrant having nearly 20 mods. I guess he assumes GAF will bounce back to the point that it needs that many mods? But that assumes GAF will have similar levels of activity that it had before. I don't see that happening unless he opens the floodgates and lift the registration/junior member restrictions.

I honestly believe he thinks it's going to rebound and he wants to make sure he has enough coverage so that he doesn't have to do the heavy lifting.  It's pretty amazing.

[Aeptia]

With Trans people I understand them getting "safe spaces". In a few states it's a justified defense to murder someone if you sleep with them and find out they're trans.

Having somewhere that you don't have to deal with yucksters and callous statements is nice. We don't need safe spaces for everyone and thing though.

Ok, a little late on this, but I looked this up because it seemed unbelievable. And yeah, in no state in the union, unless I grossly missed something, is it not murder just because you slept with a trans person, and were not told they were trans. Now in some states the you can use trans panic as a defense, ala temporary insanity, but it has never resulted in an acquittal. Not once. It MIGHT get you a mistrial, and even in those cases the defendant pled out after the fact to at least 20+ years in prison. It's basically the last refuge of a shitty defense attorney with a client who is guilty as hell. It's not on the books, it's just not specifically outlawed.

I can't find evidence of the 'gay panic' defense being successful in recent memory either.

Yeah i was going to double check this when i read it but got side tracked,  so thanks for bringing it up.

So it's not true? Are the people that pushed this going to verify this with some sources or what?

Didn't you hear? On the internet, talking out of your ass is a source.

[Pepinappe]

Also, I didn't know that mortimer fellow is back at Rasterera. 

[VomKriege]

I don't get why Tyler's is getting all these new mods for a dead site, assuming these aren't just empty positions he made. GAF activity is at a snail's pace. It doesn't warrant having nearly 20 mods. I guess he assumes GAF will bounce back to the point that it needs that many mods? But that assumes GAF will have similar levels of activity that it had before. I don't see that happening unless he opens the floodgates and lift the registration/junior member restrictions.

.

That one had me wondering too... Maybe going full Potemkin village for a sale ?

[Aeptia]

Also, girls aren't interested in videogames, especially on average. Marketing games to enthusiastic females is practically aiming at a niche market. We're talking about a minority here that's interested, and very few pro girl gamers out of that subsection.

Centering videogames around gender is dumb, and it purely a battleground for feminists. If a girl wants to play a game, no one will stop her.

If someone says something derogatory to a girl who's wants to play games, welcome to the club. That's literally why people have unspoken purity tests. No "normal person" thinks playing games is anything outside of a waste of time, so being quizzed on your gaming knowledge is not sexism. Of course, "nuance is a way to conceal evil" or some stupid dissmissive leftist statement like that.

[Pepinappe]

Also seeing Krejlooc again. Ugh, that dipshit is so annoying.

[Assimilate]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/game-forum-trolls-shut-down-french-anti-harassment-hotline-after-3-days.2956/

Disgusting. Why are so many gaming forums just filled with awful people? Ugh.

If this is going to be the state of ResetGaf this thread will live on for many many years to come.

[Bravotyler]

Loudninja got approval from the higher ups to start advertising on Resetti.

[Freaky Fred]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/game-forum-trolls-shut-down-french-anti-harassment-hotline-after-3-days.2956/

Disgusting. Why are so many gaming forums just filled with awful people? Ugh.

If this is going to be the state of ResetGaf this thread will live on for many many years to come.

Zero self-awareness over there

[Assimilate]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/game-forum-trolls-shut-down-french-anti-harassment-hotline-after-3-days.2956/

Disgusting. Why are so many gaming forums just filled with awful people? Ugh.

If this is going to be the state of ResetGaf this thread will live on for many many years to come.

Zero self-awareness over there

We should probably stop pretending GAF ended.... it only changed it's name.

at this point anyone that self-identifies as a "gamer" is fucking trash

I'm starting to believe the conspiracy theories 

this can't be real. the alt-right 4channers has to be responsible for this one

[Van Cruncheon]

no, girls aren’t interested in pale basement boi games, by and large (large general gaming forum gurls are the exception). they still spend a shitload of their day locked glassy-eyed in front of screens. my daughter and her friends are avid fuckin’ gamers, but they play terraria, visual novels, horror games, and jrpgs. and pokemon. and fucking animal crossing. and fucking chinese mmos.

just because they don’t typically sign up for the setpiece shooty-shoots and the dick-measuring e-arenas and the sportsing gamez doesn’t mean they aren’t handing the industry fat stacks. typical dudebro gaming values like GRAFX and SALES don’t seem to apply. on the other hand, youtube communities and narrowband fandom conversations on social media sure do.

[VomKriege]

jv.com is pretty trash though

[Van Cruncheon]

the only gaming value my brat and i have in common is this: GOOD EXPLOSION EFFECTS ARE NECESSARY.

oh, and we both waifu’d the same chica in persona 5. how embarrassing.